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Thread ID: 6943 | Posts: 9 | Started: 2003-05-27
2003-05-27 05:06 | User Profile
[url=http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/377/10080_atlantis.html]Atlantis Will Be Found[/url]
05/26/2003 11:19
Russian researchers have held the Second Congress of Atlantis Explorers in Moscow
Has legendary Atlantis ever existed? Russian explorers and researchers have recently held a meeting in Moscow in order to discuss the material about the legendary continent and share their opinion with each other. Alexander Voronin, the director of the Russian association for studying Atlantis's problems stated at the meeting that Atlantis would be found. Alexander Voronin added that various findings in different parts of the planet proved the certainty of finding the lost continent.
Remains of the "big land" have been found in the water area of the Brazilian island of Sao Paulo; an undestroyed temple of thousands years old has been found in the sea not far from Europe. Voronin believes that such findings testify to the existence of a "central kingdom and numerous islands, on which ten Atlas brothers lived."
Participants of the meeting stated that there had been a lot of evidence collected to prove the existence of Atlantis. Researchers believe that one has to continue the quest, looking for other discoveries. As far as the significance of the lost continent's existence is concerned, Alexander Gorodnitsky, a member of the Russian Academy of Sciences said that the discovery of Atlantis might change the concept of nature and life development on planet Earth. Gorodnitsky believes that the proved existence of supreme civilizations in the past will make the up-to-date Darwinist society reconsider its views. Alexander Gorodnitsky has been on several expeditions to the places, where Atlantis allegedly existed. He still hopes to organize a targeted mission in order to study the problem in detail. "I am sure that this issue is extremely complicated and important, so one has to deal with it seriously, on a serious scientific level," Gorodnitsky was quoted as saying.
RIAN
Read the original in Russian: [url=http://science.pravda.ru/science/2003/6/18/50/10696_atlantida.html]http://science.pravda.ru/science/2003/6/18..._atlantida.html[/url] (Translated by: Dmitry Sudakov)
2003-05-27 13:44 | User Profile
We read a fascinating book called Gateway to Atlantis -- postulates that Atlantis was part of CUBA! Really well 'documented' as a strong possibility! Recommend it highly! As much as we LOVED Thira (Santorini, which we visited on a cruise) and found a lot of evidence that it might be Atlantis, this book changed our minds much more towards Cuba (of all places!)
2003-05-27 14:21 | User Profile
[url=http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_science&Number=621595&page=&view=&sb=&o=&part=1&vc=1&t=0]Atlantis in Cuban Depths or Anomaly?[/url]
2003-05-27 15:03 | User Profile
Some years old but still the best:
Atlantis in Wisconsin by Frank Joseph. Sounds like a joke but it ain't.
Hundreds of thousands of tons of copper ore were mined in Upper Michigan & elsewhere on the Great Lakes at least 5000 years ago. Where did it go? Joseph's book might not have all the answers, but he'll point your thinking in the right direction.
The wife and I hike Upper Michigan's copper country a lot. It's the spookiest place on earth; the place we came to realize that all of official human history is a crock. You ain't lived till you've dug up a Minoan axehead on the Kennesaw Peninsula!
2003-05-28 01:31 | User Profile
None of these theories is as foolish [In fact I don't think they are foolish at all] as the truly idiotic idea that about 6,000 years ago a bunch of hunter gatherers got bored hunting for carrion and speaking in grunts and over a few hundred years developed language, architecture, music, philosophy, engineering---all in a flash.
Enkidu
2003-05-28 04:14 | User Profile
We're currently working our way through The Hiram Key -- about the 'real' history of the Freemasons -- very well written book, and somewhat persuasive, although there are a few... questions... we have stumbled on -- which may be from our own unfamiliarity with, among other things, the Dead Sea Scrolls (got a book on them for next reading project...)
Anyway, they suggest, and it seems, on first glance (we've only started the chapter) quite reasonable, that the Templar fleet, which were moored in the harbour up until the very MORNING Phillipe le Bel arrested all 15,000 of the Templars in France -- split, disappeared, vanished (with the treasures?); and the part that DIDN'T go to Scotland went to Portugal, stocked up, and sailed to that temperate, fertile, and lovely land to the west, to be found under the star called Merica (!!) (or as the Frenchies called it "la Merica").
There is apparently a 'tower' in Rhode Island that was ALREADY here when Verranzo sailed here (he wrote about it!), and Templar-styled graves and so on around the eastern seaboard... and this was some number of years BEFORE Columbus arrived...
(They also tell the tale of where the fiction about America being named for Amergo Vespucci came from!)
2003-05-28 05:09 | User Profile
I wonder if we'll ever manage to recover the true history of humanity. Rulers have always tried to distort or just plain erase recorded history to suit their political ends--our current rulers being even more ambitious about this than most. Though the discovery of ruins of Atlantis, if any actually exist, would at least fill the mysterious gap between caveman and advanced ancient civilization...
2003-05-28 05:16 | User Profile
Originally posted by Avalanche@May 27 2003, 22:14 ** ... Templar-styled graves and so on around the eastern seaboard... and this was some number of years BEFORE Columbus arrived...
(They also tell the tale of where the fiction about America being named for Amergo Vespucci came from!) **
Rule by Secrecy by Jim Marrs has some intriguing info regarding a lot of this. Your remark about Vespucci reminded me of this book. Whether it's the Merovingians, Merica, the Protocols, the Knights Templar, the Sumerians, there are a lot of unanswered questions throughout history. Things do not add up.
2003-06-02 14:29 | User Profile
Their are remains of ancient cities of the coasts of Cuban. Casto has a Canadian company exploring. What they have found so far appears to be related to the culture that build the pyramids in Central and Southern America.
There are remains of ancients cities in bodies of water all over the world! Artic Archeaologists are finding evidence of Ancient cities in the Artic circle. THULE!?!
About the Templars;
Aslo, stories of the Templars going to America are probably true. There is substantial direct evidence that the Egyptians, Phoenecians, Welsh, Vikings, Romans, Japanese, Chinese, and others sailed to America by boat prior to Columbus. Columbus was the first advertised commercial voyage. In modern times, because groups like the Templars kept it a secret.
It is also known that Columbus had numerous accounts of others going to America to use as guides.
It is probably true that the Templar fleet fleed to America. Other Templars were given assylum by Robert the Bruce (who was excommunited by the pope anyway), and aided William Wallce in exchange for safe passage in Scotland and protection from Catholic bounty hunters.
The part of Braveheart where the men on horseback charge the British archers was probably actually performed by the Knights Templar.
History records that a surpise assualt by a small group of cavalry promted King Edward and his massive escort to leave the battlefield and the overwhelming British forces to panic.
While history never officially recorded who the cavalry was, it did record that they wore full armour and weilded swords. Very few Scots, even the wealthy owned armour or swords at that time. (Most of Wallaces men only had spears and wooded shields).
King Edward probably recognized them as expert warriors of the Knights Templar and that is why he left the field.