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Eendracht Maakt Mag [OP]

2003-05-17 20:12 | User Profile

I've noticed the huge intellectual disparity between the average poster on Stormfront and the average poster on OD (needless to say, ODers are superior in all repsects). I'd like to get a general idea of the demographic situation on this board.


madrussian

2003-05-17 20:13 | User Profile

You aren't an ADL plant, are you? ;)


Eendracht Maakt Mag

2003-05-17 20:35 | User Profile

Originally posted by madrussian@May 17 2003, 14:13 ** You aren't an ADL plant, are you?  ;) **

Oh vay, the goy Russkie shmuck has exposed me!

:D


Eendracht Maakt Mag

2003-05-17 22:53 | User Profile

Well, OK, if everyone now believes that I am an ADL infiltrator then I guess I'll start with me.

19 years old, studying psychology. unemployed :(.


PaleoconAvatar

2003-05-17 22:55 | User Profile

age: 25

occupation: graduate student

education: Master of Arts degree in Political Science (major subfield in International Relations)


madrussian

2003-05-17 22:55 | User Profile

Originally posted by Prodigal Son@May 17 2003, 15:53 ** 19 years old, studying psychology. unemployed :(. **

I wish more of Russians had the same nationalistic attitude. What are the younger generation like in Russia?


Eendracht Maakt Mag

2003-05-17 23:12 | User Profile

Originally posted by PaleoconAvatar@May 17 2003, 16:55 ** age: 25

occupation: graduate student

education: Master of Arts degree in Political Science (major subfield in International Relations) **

I think I'll have a hard time finding people with such credentials at Stormfront. In any case, for all its childishness and ineffectuality, stormfront is far supeiror to AryanDawn forums, a squalid hole a rabid hate and stupidity that all white nationalists should steer clear of.


Eendracht Maakt Mag

2003-05-17 23:16 | User Profile

Originally posted by madrussian@May 17 2003, 16:55 ** > Originally posted by Prodigal Son@May 17 2003, 15:53 ** 19 years old, studying psychology. unemployed :(. **

I wish more of Russians had the same nationalistic attitude. What are the younger generation like in Russia? **

While I have not been in Russia recently, I can tell you from my experience that nationalist movements are rising, among the young and the middle-aged as well. Some of the young people who join nationalist groups are not committed, and are merely looking for a way to "rebel" against authority. Those usually get filtered out. Other's join because they are well aware of the source of Russia's problems, and wish to do somehting about it. Hopefully, in the future, committed young nationalists of today will form a nucleus for a politically viable Russian Nationalist party. Myself, I adopted nationalism/conservatism after a long period of intense research into the postive and negative aspects of various political ideologies. In the end, I decided that nationalism was the best.


Franco

2003-05-17 23:18 | User Profile

Professional race-baiter and hate-monger.

Age: can't say [the ADL trolls, ya see].


Eendracht Maakt Mag

2003-05-17 23:24 | User Profile

Originally posted by Franco@May 17 2003, 17:18 Professional race-baiter and hate-monger.

That's a well-paying job, I hear. :)


Avalanche

2003-05-18 01:55 | User Profile

Female (oddly enough, for OD), 47 years old, B.A. in Psych, 6 years active duty USNR (long ago!).

Began as a flaming NY bleeding heart liberal, woke up part way on my own, NeoNietzsche finished the job in the past 6 years.

Now, rabidly racist, pro-Nazi, anti-immigrationist, vehemently anti-jew.

'spect the ADL already knows about me, cause I've been 'tickling' my friends with emails for years now, trying to coax some awakening in them...


triskelion

2003-05-18 02:26 | User Profile

Age 35, 4 children & stable family. education: micro biological chemistry M.A. (focus upon zymurgy), International Political Economics PhD. and lesser degrees in related fields as well as a M.A. in naval architecture and a B.S. in metallurgy. Occupation: owner of some small businesses of no importance.

With respect to Russia and the Baltic states I am very optimistic. Racial consciousness is very high in a surprisingly large segment of the population, racialist literature is pretty much widely available inspite of laws meant to suppress such things and the societal decay seems be helping our side in the long term. The down sides, in my opinion which is not particularly well informed, are endless factionalism/leadership squabbles and poor organization.


Faust

2003-05-18 03:44 | User Profile

:lol: :lol: :lol:


PaleoconAvatar

2003-05-18 05:08 | User Profile

Originally posted by il ragno@May 18 2003, 00:30 Best job I ever had was - believe it or not - the porn biz, working for a mfr of everything from video to magazines to 'rubber goods'.

I can see some daring and unconventional political applications for this: marketing some glow-in-the-dark swastika French ticklers. The idea might even catch on! :lol:


PaleoconAvatar

2003-05-18 05:44 | User Profile

Originally posted by Octopod@May 18 2003, 01:25 ** PaleoconAvatar: I can see some daring and unconventional political applications for this: marketing some glow-in-the-dark swastika French ticklers. The idea might even catch on! :lol:

Shame on you, disgusting traitor!

That should be Freedom ticklers.

Octopod **

How could I have forgotten!

Looks like you've uncovered the Achilles' Heel of those Republican congressmen who are into passing laws against everything symbolically French in light of Gulf War II. They can't give any legal recognition to the ticklers by re-naming them, or else the Falwell-Robertson wing of the party will bolt. How will the party ever hold together with its pro-war and pro-family wings split over this issue?


il ragno

2003-05-18 06:02 | User Profile

Before the jokes really start pouring in, I should add that I'm pretty strongly anti-porn these days, and have been for a while. Even wrote an anti-porn letter to VNN that didn't win me many friends, but my views are views acquired from the inside, not outside-looking-in.

Ditto with Jews. Though my 'awakening' to their global machinations coalesced a few years ago, you can't be around em all your life without tumbling to their nature.

The most important component to putting the big picture together has unquestionably been the Internet. And not because I get to swap opinions with you fine folk on message boards, but the incredible access the Web affords the common man to information heretofore too broadly dispersed and out of reach to anyone not expressly cataloguing such material for a living to ever hope to accomplish in a lifetime. I can do in thirty minutes what would have once required weeks if not months of flying all over the globe, and untold hours of squirreling myself away in various library microfiche archives.

Usually I feel sorry for white kids these days (and even a few non-white kids, believe it or not). The world they're due to inherit is in many ways not worth living in. But one thing I deeply envy them is their growing up connected to the Net. There's no telling where I'd be, or what I'd be doing, had I the WWW to draw from at age 16 or 17 (I suppose that can be interpreted several ways), but I wouldn't have stumbled about till my mid-thirties, here and there offered a tantalizing glimpse of a detail or two - removed from the context of the entire canvas - with little hope of ever knowing what I was actually getting glimpses of .


PaleoconAvatar

2003-05-18 06:28 | User Profile

Originally posted by il ragno@May 18 2003, 02:02 ** Before the jokes really start pouring in, I should add that I'm pretty strongly anti-porn these days, and have been for a while. Even wrote an anti-porn letter to VNN that didn't win me many friends, but my views are views acquired from the inside, not outside-looking-in. **

I was wondering what your stance might have been on the whole VNN/Tsun thing, which you may recall was one of the battles in the "porn war." Tsun got kicked off of Stormfront for offending the ladies there with his pro-porn ideas, which he mainly intended as a marketing tool for White Nationalism. I'm not too hung up about these sorts of "moral issues," so I was pretty much on Tsun's side just because I saw his approach as being novel and clever. I figured it was no worse than other "cheap" attempts at marketing to the masses, the way the NA is trying to do by putting out video games. I suppose I have a pragmatist, "whatever works" streak.

The most important component to putting the big picture together has unquestionably been the Internet. And not because I get to swap opinions with you fine folk on message boards, but the incredible access the Web affords the common man to information heretofore too broadly dispersed and out of reach to anyone not expressly cataloguing such material for a living to ever hope to accomplish in a lifetime. I can do in thirty minutes what would have once required weeks if not months of flying all over the globe, and untold hours of squirreling myself away in various library microfiche archives.

I agree. I love the wealth of material that's available out there for news and politics, all the online reference sources, and so on. The Internet actually has made me more aware of things in the world than any sources of pre-programmed formal education. Of course, I had the misfortune of attending public schools, which are deliberately designed to impart as little information as possible to students. How many times did I ask my parents a question when I was little to have them respond, "find out in school," and then have me reply "they don't tell you anything in school." Lots of parents send their kids off with that sense of trust that their kids will be taught things...yet that trust is betrayed and violated over and over. And now there are rumblings about restricting the ability of parents to homeschool their kids...if that happens in a few years, that's yet one more reason to list for rebellion against the Crown on a Second Declaration of Independence.


triskelion

2003-05-18 06:54 | User Profile

I am very glad to hear that Il Ragno is way off porn. I have been strongly against that brand of sickness pretty much my whole life.

THe subject raises the matter of building coalitions that I have brought up a great many times here and else where. What I have done is formed little working projects with various feminist groups, Christians and outraged family types to protest porn (while strongly hinting at who is behind it) or some other aspect of the sex industry. Another good tactic is to raise simelar protests against alien sex offenders which is easy as they are so common and the victims are almost always leftist European females. This works very well as a way of opening up differant people to what nationalism is all about by gradual introducing the concept of community and folkish living which is buutressed with a bit of decentralized economics which often strikes a cord with the what's left of the "ethical left."


Walter Yannis

2003-05-18 08:19 | User Profile

Originally posted by Octopod@May 18 2003, 06:19 ** il ragno: Before the jokes really start pouring in, I should add that I'm pretty strongly anti-porn these days, and have been for a while. Even wrote an anti-porn letter to VNN that didn't win me many friends, but my views are views acquired from the inside, not outside-looking-in. **

You might expect me to be really hung up about porn, since I'm a hot-iron wielding Inquisitor and all, but I'm not particularly tightassed about this topic. I'm religious, but I'm also a realist, and yammering about the porn industry does absolutely no good if one does not, as Franco often puts it, "name the Jew." Of course, sex is a basic human need and ultra-raunchy porn is made in countries like Japan where there is essentially no Jewish influence at all. In the Western countries, however, porn is used by you-know-who to promote miscegnation and other aspects of their agenda. Of course, money is the main object and Jews are disproportionately represented in the industry. This is the best reason not to buy porn, regardless of your beliefs on this topic--the money you spend more often than not goes into Jewish bank accounts. As for VNN's rather tasteful pictures of naked White women, I have no objection.

And so far as French ticklers -- er, Freedom ticklers -- go, I think Falwell/Robertson are probably too busy collecting them (along with soiled lingerie) to lobby for their prohibition.

Octopod **

As your Assistant Inquisitor, I agree.

Porn is certainly not a healthy thing, but I'm enough of a libertarian to believe that the cost-benefit analysis of state regulation of the thing yields a negative result. It just ain't worth regulating beyond time/place/manner/protected audience type considerations.

Same with drugs and gambling.

Walter


Edana

2003-05-18 14:43 | User Profile

22, Housewife, and been through numerous community college courses (mostly pol. sci and sociology).


Ed Toner

2003-05-19 16:12 | User Profile

I'm 71, with all my marbles. USMMA 1953, BSNS. Married a Dublin lass 43 years ago, and we have 6 "Kids", 30-42.

A pilot all my life. First for the Navy, then TWA. Retired in 1987, 20,000 accident free hours, all the ATP's.

Bailed out when Carl Icahn bought the company with junk bonds, from another Jew, Meyers. He gave pilots a 40% pay cut. I had been making $130,000 per year.

ADL tried to fire me 4 times, JDL tried to kill me. Screwed 'em all.


Texas Dissident

2003-05-19 17:51 | User Profile

33 years old. 6'4" tall (6'8" with the afro), 192 lbs., white anglo-saxon male protestant southerner.

Father of three children, husband of one wife.

Mid-level manager, international transportation and logistics, heavy in the oil bidness.

B.S. in Sociology, minor in Psychology. Had the application for Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary all filled out and ready to send in when my wife got pregnant with our first child.

Two dogs, a rabbit, a mortgage, a minivan and my pride and joy, the TRD Toyota Tundra. :)

Wife Mandy has stayed home with our kids since day one, although she fills in at the church Mother's Day Out every once in a while. Her work keeps my world turning.


Hugh Lincoln

2003-05-19 19:18 | User Profile

Lawyer. 30. Just engaged to a very understanding, very smart woman. Living a dual life, in some ways --- observe as the VNN addict chats with yooish colleague. On the other hand, as noted in this thread, I wouldn't know of a dual life to begin with without the Internet. For all I'd like to boast that my racial and semitic awakenings were the result of my own keen perception and dogged investigation, it was ol' "Thomas Jackson" (aka Jared Taylor) and his Stormfront essay "What is Racism?" and other such stuff that got me a' thinkin'. Since then, it's been hard to ignore.

Hoping to write a book one of these days about the topics discussed on OD.


Ragnar

2003-05-19 19:54 | User Profile

Dammit.

I thought I'd win the Old Fart Award at 53, but Ed Toner posted ahead of me.

Otherwise I'm one of the Navy Vets (68-72) and self-employed when not in heavy industry which has shrunk 95 percent since my first stint in the 60s and the reason the country is about to go belly-up. I have had a front row seat and can do what Gibbon ("decline & fall") did except I saw it in person.

My porn experience is limited to working nights in an Albuquerque all night book-movie shop in the late 70s when the mill laid us off. The job sucked but while I was there I got to meet Jack Kerouac's daughter, Jan. She hung around there and at a massage parlor. Nice kid. We used to split footlong chili dogs. I've been married a long time so porn don't affect me one way or the other.


NeoNietzsche

2003-05-19 19:55 | User Profile

Business owner, 52, BA in History with Honors, Summa Cum (4yrs done in 2), worked on Ph.D in History of Science until finally fed up with prostitute professoriate.

Briefly, Newscaster/Announcer/Voice-Talent with Ted Turner's first TV station.

Briefly, marched with Matt Koehl and realized he was no Rockwell.

Married to the Awesome Avalanche, looking to get kitties soon.

One house, two cars, and the fastest production motorcyle on the planet.


Happy Hacker

2003-05-19 20:21 | User Profile

Born in '77. My money comes mostly from contract software coding for a local software company with skills mostly unrelated to any formal education. But, I did graduate from a public skool. I like long walks and not giving my time to an employer or to the government. Of late, my fancy has turned to designing from scratch a highly self-sustaining homestead (any of you know of any good advise, books, or websites to help). Should I be my own general contractor?


Roger Bannister

2003-05-19 20:43 | User Profile

And I thought I'd be one of the oldest guys on the forum, at over 45 but not 50, I guess I'm right. With my immature posts, I'm sure you thought I'd be younger. I don't want to go too much into family info, I'm paranoid. Yes, married. Yes, kids. Went to college - I don't want to say where - and received a totally useless degree in 'communications' I'll call it. Was an All American in Track and Field - that's why I took the Bannister name for this forum, made the national team several times (all this time, taking little interest in politics and the real world), and twice made the Oly trials, where I went to the Games once, and got blown out in the preliminary rounds by much better runners. (Yes, I've run a mile under four minutes, but I won't post my time. Paranoid, like Franco) Those experiences in running are the reason I know so much about drugs in sports. No, I didn't use drugs. Middle and long distance runners weren't really using much of anything like that in the late 70's to the early to mid 80's. If you think all these Kenyans and Ethiopians you see these days are entirely products of genetics, you are swallowing a lot of media b.s. I could write a rant on what and who, but that's another thread. OK, enough reliving the distant and not so glorious past. Through people I met in the media while running, I ended up working in TV sports. It was this setting that slowly awakened me politically and let me see how sports really is one of the major circuses handed to the public to keep them occupied. Many areas of sports broadcasting are tied to, or in the same offices as the 'straight news' departments, and under the same 'control'. Watching what went on in news and sports behind the scenes made me start wondering how long the public has been manipulated, and the rest ... well, here I am with the rest of you.


skemper

2003-05-19 21:07 | User Profile

Age 41, homemaker, married with two children. BS, Chemistry; M. Ed. , Science Education; Master of Theological Studies, and several graduate courses in the sciences.

First voted for Reagan in 1980 and have gotten more conservative ever since. I had a brief fling with supporting the Equal Rights Amendment but then read Phyllis Schlaffly and got my head straightened out. I worked as a Chemist for few years, then I got laid off and decided to try teaching science. I went back to get my education credentials, and found myself playing the devil's advocate against my professor because the Socialist philosophy that was being taught went against my Christian morals and common sense instincts. I did not know that Dewry, et. al., were socialists at the time but years later when I decided to go to a local seminary to study more about my faith, I learned the truth, and loose pieces started to fall into place. I only einded up teaching school for a few weeks in a black- dominated middle school, and had enough and did not return. The kids did not want to learn, the administration did not back up on discipline, and it was not worth the time or my life. Despite this, I still love to teach and hope to homeschool my kids when they get older. I have been a homemaker for years and have enjoyed it even though there are days that I do miss the projects in the lab. My awakening of the Jew strangely came from my studies in eschatology and Church History. When I studied eschatology, I learned that there are other intepretations other than dispensational premill and came to the conclusion that the present state of Israel is not a fulfillment of biblical prophecy because the theological infrastucture of Old Israel was destroyed in 70 AD, never to rise again.


2600

2003-05-19 23:51 | User Profile

I'm 17, I work as a waiter (and let me ASSURE everyone that when drunken college frat boys snap their fingers and slur 'garcon! over here!' it is the height of hilarity), and I'm still a student in a (public) high school (but it isn't really that bad, school district is majority white/Asian). Although I no longer frequent it, I credit Stormfront with 'my awakening', so to speak, after I stumbled across that message-board researching those evilllll hate groups for a school project.

Hey Roger, interesting story about your running career. I'm also a track-and-field guy and once harbored delusions about running in college (alas, these have been shattered). 800 and 1600 runner, here.


jeffersonian

2003-05-20 20:04 | User Profile

Pretty tame stuff....I was expecting a variety of mercenary’s, reactionary’s, and saboteurs.

I am a 48 year old USN Vet. who spent 20 years in environmental engineering related fields. I now dabble in real estate and drink beer.


Drakmal

2003-05-20 23:20 | User Profile

  1. Public schoolgoer until 6th grade; homeschooled afterwards. Now attending community college, majoring in electronics technology--my 3rd major, thanks to a weak and failing economy and the H1-B program. (First two were psychology and computer science.) Part-time mercenary, reactionary, and saboteur.

Wayland

2003-05-20 23:21 | User Profile

46 year old mildly dyslexic INTJ Canadian dissident here. Late seventies hard-drinking, skirt-chasing, college drop-out. Expanded my career opportunities after college as a logger, oil patch roughneck, truck driver, millworker, and finally, electrician. Made a nice pile daytrading a few years ago using software I built myself. Still trading derivatives part-time (like Ygg :) ) and selling specialized software to eager clientele. I haven't had a real paycheck since 1996 which suits me fine.

My first wake-up call was a book I read in the late seventies called "None Dare Call It Conspiracy". I've been reading OD for about six months and I've learned a tremendous amount here and also by following up on links and book recommendations. Stormfront was probably the first WN web site I stumbled on.


Robbie

2003-05-21 02:32 | User Profile

Salesman in a department store, 27 (I'll be 28 in September). I am only one of a handful of Whites who work in the sales department (the rest of them are either executives or have higher positions). I get along with the non-Whites very well, as one should in a public area where I work. I know I have my place, as do they.

I graduated from college with a B.A. in Communications in 1997 and after graduation I worked for my dad's business for 5 years, in the knitting/textile industry.

I'm single and live with my mother.


Franco

2003-05-21 04:05 | User Profile

I might add that a little paperback book called "None Dare Call It Treason" by a Bircher named John Stormer really woke me up. Found it at a yard sale for $1.00 in about 1990. The rest, as they say, is history. Just kept moving farther and farther rightward, and to paganist views, since Joe Bible Minister At The Church could not say the word "Jew" or "negro".....

Ya failed me, Joe Bible Minister....where were you when I needed you?

:angry: :angry: :angry:


Ragnar

2003-05-21 04:42 | User Profile

Is someone keeping track of OD's demographics?

From a quick look, there seems to be a good age spread and us non-college types are not outnumbered by the grads as bad as I'd supposed. Interesting. Thanks are due to Prodigal Son for starting this thread.


PaleoconAvatar

2003-05-21 04:50 | User Profile

Originally posted by Ragnar@May 21 2003, 00:42 ** Is someone keeping track of OD's demographics? **

Sure! I'd bet several government agencies and some private "watchdog" groups are now compiling the statistics. ;)


madrussian

2003-05-21 05:21 | User Profile

Originally posted by Ragnar@May 20 2003, 21:42 ** From a quick look, there seems to be a good age spread and us non-college types are not outnumbered by the grads as bad as I'd supposed. Interesting. **

That is before you counted me :lol:

I'll say only that I have a PhD, and let the ADL types wonder about other details :afro:


Texas Dissident

2003-05-21 06:15 | User Profile

Originally posted by madrussian@May 21 2003, 00:21 ** and let the ADL types wonder about other details :afro: **

You're a black man?


il ragno

2003-05-21 09:28 | User Profile

Is it time to pull "Samovar Davis Jr" from the trunk already?


Walter Yannis

2003-05-21 13:25 | User Profile

Originally posted by il ragno@May 21 2003, 09:28 ** Is it time to pull "Samovar Davis Jr" from the trunk already? **

Groan.

Oh, man.

You should be severely e-chastised for that one.

For your punishment, you have to post something nice about Hindus.

Walter


il ragno

2003-05-21 19:04 | User Profile

For your punishment, you have to post something nice about Hindus.

The guy at the coffee cart is unfailingly polite when I order my large light and buttered roll every morning.


madrussian

2003-05-21 19:55 | User Profile

Originally posted by Texas Dissident@May 20 2003, 23:15 ** You're a black man? **

Black Russian? Had one the other day. :sm:


madrussian

2003-05-21 19:57 | User Profile

Originally posted by il ragno@May 21 2003, 02:28 ** Is it time to pull "Samovar Davis Jr" from the trunk already? **

How old is one supposed to be to know what you are refering to?


MadScienceType

2003-05-21 21:48 | User Profile

Mid-30s. Overeducated, with a PhD in molecular biology. Married to a wonderful Southern gal who shares my politics and slight streak of misanthropy (did I get lucky or what?) No munchkins as yet. I guess I'd better get crackin' there! I haven't done any zymurgy, except on a dabbling basis. Currently looking for a better job, though most of the biotech sector positions are located in what I consider no-go zones for starting a family, financially and culturally, on the east and west coasts.

I too am glad this thread started, even if Cachelot is busy writing this stuff down.

I didn't know Ragnar was a member of the Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club.

I wish I'd have been as on the ball at 19 as Prodigal Son is.

Ed Toner's flying hours are amazing. I think he mentioned flying Connies once. Way cool. I affectionately nominate Mr. Toner as OD's official "grumpy old man."

Now I know Tex is a Fletch fan.

I feel sorry for Paleocon Avatar. Grad school. Been there. Done that. There's nothing like living a hand-to-mouth existence and being a professor's gofer for what seemed like eons. I swore never to eat TopRamen again.

I'm in awe of Triskelion's ability to obtain multiple degrees, be a father of four kids, run a business and still find time for politics.

Even though I know it's not correct, I still have a mental picture of il ragno putting his considerable vocabulary and communications skills to use selling the cast of Sex and the City on the finer points of good, solid, American-made rubber dongs. I had suspected that IR was a disgruntled mole in the employ of the NY Post or something. The fact that a Jayson Blair or a Cal Thomas can get published but IR isn't irritates me to no end.

Had no idea that madrussian was a black man who favored black liquor (I'm kidding, man!)

Also interesting the number of USN vets here.

As an aside, something I had long observed, and OD confirms, is that the number of letters after a person's name doesn't mean a whole lot in determining that person's intellectual bonafides.


edward gibbon

2003-05-21 23:39 | User Profile

I believe I may be the second oldest after Ed Toner, but remain youthful at heart. I smile a lot, put my hand in my shorts and talk to all the pretty girls. Not many talk back though.

My college degree in engineering was and is a waste. I much prefer history and poetry of the Yeats and Eliot caliber, not Alan Ginsburg.

Soon I will have to rejoin the workforce, perhaps in Autocad. My knowledge of Mathematics to include projective geometry, differential geometry and multi-variable calculus still surprizingly decent. Have read probably more than 2000 books on history and philosophy. I will not get entangled in philosopical discussions as I once did. Time is too short. I much prefer to bring relatively unknown, but to me extremely important, facts to public attention.


Hugh Lincoln

2003-05-22 18:00 | User Profile

Wayland: INTJ? Is that a reference to the Meyers-Briggs personality typology?

If you look under the DSMIV, you should find me there.


Ed Toner

2003-05-22 18:08 | User Profile

Old? My first car was a 1930 Chevorlet. The wipers consisted of 2 handles inside, with which you moved the blades.

My first TWA aircraft was a Martin 202. I had previously flown nothing but fighters.

I sat down in the right seat and noticed it had no stick. It was my first experience with a yoke. The stick was better.


Happy Hacker

2003-05-22 21:38 | User Profile

Originally posted by MadScienceType@May 21 2003, 21:48 ** No munchkins as yet. I guess I'd better get crackin' there! **

Yes, have lots of children! They'll save you lots of tax money. They'll take care of you when you're old. And, we need more right-minded children in this country.


Ed Toner

2003-05-22 21:50 | User Profile

Exactly. Our 6 are now aged 30-42. Always helping us.

Deirdre gave us a Lexus LS 400 (Pays to spoil 'em rotten!)

Kevin provides a maid.

Eileen took us on 2 cruises.

Eamonn, Eileen and Tim gave us drop dead GORGEOUS granddaughters.

We never want for ANYTHING. Beats investments, Social Security, etc..


EDUMAKATEDMOFO

2003-05-23 03:59 | User Profile

Late twenties, Autocad draftsman... right outta high school was in Clinton's Army for two years (and change) 11M Bradley Infantryman... served in Gemany and Macedonia...then, got a B.A. in English from the local Podunk U... worked in publishing, then as a private investigator...now work for a structural engineer. While we're talkin' athletics...it should be let known... I'm the whitey that genetics has apparently forgotten... I mean to tell ya I can run as fast as freaking horse... be it a mile or 40 yards... while I cannot approach Mr. Bannister's impressive credentials, I do have some fun breaking off the brothas a lil sumem sumem in flag football on Sundays...


Franco

2003-05-23 04:18 | User Profile

Gee, uhhhh....there sure are a lot of intellectuals at OD.

Grandpa warned about in-tell-ect-uals. Said they thought too much instead of just acting out...wishy-washy, ya see...not totally committed to an ideology...mind-changers...

Iz dat true??

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

:hit: :hit: :hit: :hit:


Texas Dissident

2003-05-23 06:32 | User Profile

Originally posted by Franco@May 22 2003, 23:18 **Grandpa warned about in-tell-ect-uals. Said they thought too much instead of just acting out...wishy-washy, ya see...not totally committed to an ideology...mind-changers... Iz dat true?? **

It can be. But a movement without the guidance and support of intellectuals will in all likelihood degenerate into a lynch mob, burning itself out with wasted, meaningless effort and nothing to sustain itself.

I certainly don't consider myself an intellectual, Franco. However, I try to place value on every level of talent that can be harnessed for the greater good. Even with something as basic as this discussion board. While I do have the ultimate say as to what goes on here, for each and every major decision I make I seek the wisdom and council of trusted 'intellectuals' to guide my decisions. In my opinion, that is just smart business. One cannot possibly see every angle and possible consequence to this or that action. A leader will surround himself with advisors who have certain knowledge or strengths to help inform him at every fork in the road. It is then the leader's job to sort through the information supplied by the 'brains,' come to a decision and then translate that decision to the men of action. Just like a healthy body, it would be futile to argue whether one's hand or foot is more important to the overall well-function of daily health.

A successful enterprise requires intellectuals, as well as foot soldiers to carry out action. Each are critical to a successful movement.


Avalanche

2003-05-23 13:07 | User Profile

Geez Tex, did you get all that from one of those flyin'-eagle, rippley-water, sailin'-boat posters with smart words on them? {tee hee hee}


MadScienceType

2003-05-23 14:24 | User Profile

So Ed,

What was the difference between the 202 & the 404? Oh, and what fighters did you fly? The P-51 and F-86 are a couple of the sweetest-looking birds ever to fly...

Yes, have lots of children!

Working on it, but it'd be a helluva lot easier if I didn't have to feed, clothe and provide daycare for, er I mean "educate" every border-crossing chaquita and her larvae, along with Shaniqua and brood of illegitimate brats.

I think I should be able to provide a stable home for an offspring before I have a kid, but that's just me. I guess I'm a chump, as it doesn't seem to stop anyone else. :thd:

Look! I'm committed to the "movement", too!

:hit: :hit: :hit::hit::hit::hit::hit::hit::hit::hit::hit::hit::hit::hit:

That enough ideology for ya?


Ed Toner

2003-05-23 14:44 | User Profile

The 404 was pressurized. I flew the F6F (as a trainer), the Grumman Panther, Cougar, and McDonnel F2H-3 BANSHEE, my favorite.

[url=http://www.kithobbyist.com/largescaleplanes/articles/Banshee/Banshee.html]http://www.kithobbyist.com/largescaleplane...ee/Banshee.html[/url]


MadScienceType

2003-05-23 15:04 | User Profile

Sorry all, to veer the thread.

Duh! on my part. US Navy!

I'm familiar with all those planes, except I don't know much about the Banshee. Looks like she was pretty agile (low wing-loading and all) but maybe not so fast w/o swept wings. Wasn't it mostly used for night/bad weather intercepts?


madrussian

2003-05-23 15:43 | User Profile

Originally posted by MadScienceType@May 23 2003, 07:24 I think I should be able to provide a stable home for an offspring before I have a kid, but that's just me. I guess for ya?

That's the attitude that results in low birth rate among whites. A kid, stable home, delayed to mid 30s. By that time you've paid a lot of taxes for by now teenage litter of a mestizo or a black in his 30s without a stable home. I am not saying that people should rush, but the notion of "stable home" is very flexible.


Texas Dissident

2003-05-23 16:33 | User Profile

Originally posted by Avalanche@May 23 2003, 08:07 ** Geez Tex, did you get all that from one of those flyin'-eagle, rippley-water, sailin'-boat posters with smart words on them? {tee hee hee} **

You makin' fun of me again, Avalanche? :crybaby: There is no 'I' in 'Team.'

Seriously, I might not have stated it well, but the principle is still valid. Intellectuals are worth defending, just as much as the common man.


Texas Dissident

2003-05-23 16:35 | User Profile

Originally posted by madrussian@May 23 2003, 10:43 ** > Originally posted by MadScienceType@May 23 2003, 07:24 I think I should be able to provide a stable home for an offspring before I have a kid, but that's just me. I guess for ya?

That's the attitude that results in low birth rate among whites. **

Heartily agree, mr. Just start spittin' 'em out and everything will work itself out over the long run.


MadScienceType

2003-05-23 16:38 | User Profile

Sorry, madrussian. I just prefer quality over quantity. r vs. K strategy, if you will. Besides, once the feed runs out at the tax-funded zoo, nature will take its course and thin the litters down to managable levels. Zimbabwe, anyone?

Whites have always had low birthrates vis-a-vis the mud people, it's just that now we're interfering via altruism with the mechanisms that thinned the numbers of muds down. Soon, though, altruism is going to be a luxury whites cannot afford. Even if every white family suddenly starts having many children, we can never outbreed turd-worlders, nor should we engage in a race like that.

Whites: we do more with less.


madrussian

2003-05-23 17:40 | User Profile

Originally posted by MadScienceType@May 23 2003, 09:38 ** Sorry, madrussian. I just prefer quality over quantity. r vs. K strategy, if you will. Besides, once the feed runs out at the tax-funded zoo, nature will take its course and thin the litters down to managable levels. Zimbabwe, anyone?

Whites have always had low birthrates vis-a-vis the mud people, it's just that now we're interfering via altruism with the mechanisms that thinned the numbers of muds down. Soon, though, altruism is going to be a luxury whites cannot afford. Even if every white family suddenly starts having many children, we can never outbreed turd-worlders, nor should we engage in a race like that.

Whites: we do more with less. **

When "less" is two or three, I'll agree. When you go below the replacement level, you are getting extinct. But it's not only about survival in terms of pure numbers, it's about priorities. More traditional families means that the kids will spend more time around like-minded friends in a community and less time surrounded by overwhelming tide of third-worlders. Quantity has a property that sometimes it turns into quality :lol:


MadScienceType

2003-05-23 19:39 | User Profile

More traditional families means that the kids will spend more time around like-minded friends in a community...

I agree with you mr. I think we've got to work on getting a community together where we can have those traditional families. Problem is, whenever a place is found, it quickly becomes the target of turd-worlders and their facilitators, e.g. Lewiston. These are isolated (think: easily overrun) communities, but you're right, they're not nearly enough to combat the rising tide of mud. I guess it all boils down to livingspace, or lebensraum for you, Franco. Without that, however many offspring we have are going to be doomed to swim in a mud puddle, barring a thinning of the third-world herds, of course.


madrussian

2003-05-23 19:46 | User Profile

I am afraid whites in the US will have to learn to live in a heterogenous environment, as sad as it is. Time to become more tribal :gun:


Wayland

2003-05-23 19:56 | User Profile

Originally posted by Hugh Lincoln@May 22 2003, 10:00 Wayland:  INTJ?  Is that a reference to the Meyers-Briggs personality typology?

Yup, and it's lucky for the rest of you that we only make up about 1% of the population.

If you look under the DSMIV, you should find me there.

Well, don't tell your fiance, hehe. And congratulations on the engagement! :th:


Roy Batty

2003-05-23 21:23 | User Profile

Originally posted by Franco@May 22 2003, 20:18 ** Gee, uhhhh....there sure are a lot of intellectuals at OD.

Grandpa warned about in-tell-ect-uals. Said they thought too much instead of just acting out...wishy-washy, ya see...not totally committed to an ideology...mind-changers...

Iz dat true??

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

:hit: :hit: :hit: :hit: **

Franco, I would think that most WN's feel that a broad spectrum of support and "membership" are what's needed for short and long term success. At first I took your post for sarcasm, but then ...

Myself? 37, married, two kids. B.S. in a technical field. Most work is now in special effects etc. for films, TV, etc. Started out as a self taught programmer. While working in programming/sw development, began to see that in the interest of profits, the computer braceros were going to be used to fiood the industry and KO well paid American professionals. At the same time, a film I had seen (T-2) stoked my interest in CGI, as I had always been interested in art and design, doing freelance work on the side as a "hobby". I jumped in at the right time, just when things began to take off, probably saving myself from getting replaced by 3 Pakistanis or Hindus. No joke, as it generally seems that it takes two of them to get the work done that one white American does. And the third worlder's work still has to be triple checked by one of the few whites kept on staff specifically to ferret out the concomitant increase in errors due to these third world geniuses. Wow, off the beam. Anyway, have worked in CGI, and also as a concept artist on dozens of films, commercials, medical films, etc. Have also done storyboard work for several films as well. Yes, in a way, I am working for the yahoodis you could say. On the other hand, we don't have to deal directly with them too much, as they are lost when it comes to what we do. Although they'll learn enough about what we do in order to give a good interview on TV, and act as if they are in charge, as if it's all their vision. Failing that, they try to buy the companies.

Politically, I had always had a nagging feeling that something just wasn't right, even though political thinking was not something I was preoccupied with. Growing up with my father working in the aerospace industry, I originally had feelings that the government had our best interests at heart. When I hit high school, however, the racial realities hit home, and a vague uneasiness about many things began to surface more and more. But now I am going on too long. Suffice it to say, that coming across NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY and **THE ZIONIST FACTOR (by Ivor Benson) ** in a used bookstore was one of the incidents got the wheels turning in earnest. Couple that with deciding to do some research on the net - due to the paucity of info. in mainstream bookstores, and here I be. Guess that the media would now refer to me as a kook, in that I actually believe that there is a traitorous white elite, a conspiracy by zionist jews, and a push toward one world government. It's all going to fail, too.


Valley Forge

2003-05-24 01:24 | User Profile

Mid-thirties, married, IT manager, traditional humanistic education (BA), presently working on a second Bachelor's degree in Computer Science and Mathematics.


weisbrot

2003-05-24 03:27 | User Profile

No story here. Just the maxim I follow- and so can you:

WORK HARD ROCK HARD EAT HARD SLEEP HARD GROW BIG WEAR GLASSES IF YOU NEED 'EM.

That is all.


il ragno

2003-05-24 20:32 | User Profile

Another Webb Wilder fan, I see.


Avalanche

2003-05-25 01:38 | User Profile

**Texas Dissident: Tou makin' fun of me again, Avalanche? crybaby.gif There is no 'I' in 'Team.' Seriously, I might not have stated it well, but the principle is still valid. Intellectuals are worth defending, just as much as the common man. **

No Tex Diss, I was TEASIN' yah!
(And what did you mean? You're part of the A Team?!) It's just such an odd juxtaposition to find uplifting and positive words on OD that I was taken aback! (tee hee hee!) And I find intellectuals MORE worth defense than the common man. (Well, SOME intellectuals!)


weisbrot

2003-05-25 03:41 | User Profile

Originally posted by il ragno@May 24 2003, 16:32 ** Another Webb Wilder fan, I see. **

Full grown.


Hugh Lincoln

2003-05-27 19:37 | User Profile

**A successful enterprise requires intellectuals, as well as foot soldiers to carry out action. Each are critical to a successful movement. **

As A. Linder once said, "Whether you're a footnoter or a streetfighter, put your hand on the bumper of this White Maserati and let's push this thing out of the ditch!"

Or something like that.

So, for all the math geniuses here, if I'm trying to figure out what is a percent of what, I take the little dot and move it over two places and then times it by a hundred, right? Or, do I move the little dot two places over on the other number? Ah, cripes. I'm just a word dude.


Alka

2003-06-11 22:27 | User Profile

DOB: 1971, female, married, degree in Anthropology. Everything useful I know, I've learned outside of the offical sphere(s).


Avalanche

2003-06-11 23:46 | User Profile

Avalanche: Female, 47, tech editor/web designer by trade, not working at those (except one web client); helping out at NeoNietzsche's (small) manufacturing business... BA in Psych, cause I knew I was joining 'the service' out of college (ended up in the Navy for 6 yrs).

NeoNietzsche is 52, (married to me!), has a degree in history, I think?, plus some law school, plus some grad work in science and history and I don't know what-all else.... He began reading economics when he was 13, trying to figure out how things worked, and over the years became massively self-educated and wholly disenchanted with American society (well, the jewish-run society that overlies American society).


Hugh Lincoln

2003-06-16 19:34 | User Profile

Are OD folk urban, suburban or rural? I grew up suburban/urban and live currently as urban as it gets. The latter had a lot to do with my awakening.


PaleoconAvatar

2003-06-16 19:41 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Hugh Lincoln@Jun 16 2003, 15:34 * ** Are OD folk urban, suburban or rural?  I grew up suburban/urban and live currently as urban as it gets.  The latter had a lot to do with my awakening. **

I was born in the largest city in Central Massachusetts and lived there 'til I was 5. Then I was a suburbanite until I went off to college in New Orleans. Now I'm in the city again in Upstate S. Carolina, although it's on the edge of the city so it's a "suburban feel." Still on the bus line, though, and still hooked up to city water. Had an artesian well in my time in the suburbs.


triskelion

2003-06-16 21:20 | User Profile

With respect to MST's reflections on my abilities I regret that I have to disappoint him. A good deal of my present station in life has nothing whatsoever to do with my own merits in that I inherited the homes I presently own or was given them at marriage along with some of the businesses I own. My academic and political accomplishments (including my current publicly elected position) are a result of good instructors, a lack of the financial despair faced by most students, severe insomnia and the efforts of a great many people more virtuous, smarter working them I.

As to the matter of intellectuals raised by Franco I guess it depends upon what you think an intellectual is. To me that means a genuinely original and critical thinker that focuses upon vital yet largely unconsidered matters that are of societal importance. As I merely synthesis the ideas of others that label does not apply to me. I would say that intellectuals are very rare (even here and at polinco) but both forums do enjoy a large number of critical thinkers which is what is needed along with the will to engage in practical, real world activism.

With respect to urban and rural influences it is hard to say. I grew up in a very rural environment which has effected my disposition drastically. On the other hand for one to hate universalism/cosmopolitanism one must be forced to experience those things directly which I have. We should not however give way to mere pastoral romanticism as even without the presence of racial aliens our nations would still have high population densities. Also, cities are needed as is industry to provide for our defense in a hostile and volatile world as well as satisfy the Occidental desire for technological progression. The matter is instead one of balance which I why the matter of modernized Distributalism, guildism & syndicalism is so important.


Ed Toner

2003-06-17 18:21 | User Profile

Here's me:

[url=http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Intro/Toner.jpg]http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Intro/Toner.jpg[/url] 4 years ago at a gathering of The Clan na Toner.

Lake Tahoe in the Stamford Lodge.

Elevation 6,000'.

We all got drunk after a few drinks.

That's when the kids come up with their True Confessions.


Tom Rennick

2003-06-18 05:01 | User Profile

Ed: During my brief and tumultuous stay at Stormfront, you were one of only a handful of members that I had any respect for, due to the quality of your posts.

Tom


Franco

2003-06-18 05:23 | User Profile

Rennick is a forest-ranger in Oregon...right??


M1488D

2003-06-18 05:32 | User Profile

20, FT/PT @ a butcher shop, deli, grocery store, White owned and operated for 20 years, not my doing but I am still secretly proud of that fact even if the owners do not realize that fact or simply do not care. Currently wasting my hard earned money at a local j.c. Currently contemplating a minor in construction management/major in archeitecture. Any suggestions? Currently living with my mommy and step-father in a rural/urban part of N. Ca.


Walter Yannis

2003-06-18 13:01 | User Profile

Mid-forties, married with children. B.S., M.A., J.D. I'm an attorney in a commercial practice, much of it international (currently working with a major multinational). I'm continuing my education - just finished a marathon 5-month tax course, and have begun another. I'm motivated not so much by money but by fear of poverty. I like money coming in faster than it goes out.

I own an apartment in a large city that I thoroughly dig. Great views, high ceilings, light and airy. I love to sit at my computer with my high speed internet connection and b.s. on OD while listening to my oddball collection of American and Celtic folk music. The neighborhood is okay, but I did have a bunch of hookers working out of a neighboring apartment and the park nearby is tres gay. I also have a little place way up high in the mountains with a big garden and terrific neighbors. I try to spend a few weeks every summer there with my family (who spend most of summers there). The kids go to private schools. I have it pretty nice, and I'm grateful.

My family is everything for me. I'm amazed that they put up with me. I totally dig my kids. My wife is a gem.

I try to work out several times per week, I like swimming the most. I'm a great believer in the Caveman Diet, which cured my asthma and high blood pressure, although I'm still overweight.

I love to read, although I don't have the time to read what I'd like. I read all day long, mostly legal stuff.

Other than that, there's not much to say. I lead a very boring life. Very boring. I don't drink, smoke, take drugs, stay out late, cheat on my wife, or gamble, although I do swear like a sailor on leave and am prone to ennui. I like movies, and see them all whether they're worth it or not. Each day is much like the next. I hardly notice my life passing by.

I'm certain that I have a midlife crisis approaching, maybe it will coincide with the Great Collapse. Wouldn't that be something? Elliot Wave Theory meets Bio-Rythms!

Walter


Patrick

2003-06-18 16:28 | User Profile

Hello...

.....Rural; live on a farm in east central Ohio... soon to be 48, married to my beautiful wive, five years my junior, (but still looking 25), two children, (not kids), son, eighteen, and daughter, fifteen; I’m an artist working as a technical illustrator with the same outfit for fourteen years, keeping my artwork on the side, as time permits...

.....My spare time, (?!), is used to finish building our home, been at it for six years, virtually single-handedly, from the ground up; will soon have a 4,200 square foot oak log home, (timberframe, actually, with timber fill), and no mortgage, as I’m paying as I go... no labor to pay for, either, so the entire project will come in in the 50-55K range...

.....Studied History and geo-politics for a political cartoon I used to do, (“Little ‘BIG’ Men”, in the rightwing press), and at one time I was speaking to a million-and-a-half every week; after finding out the reality of our situation, I studied Scripture rather intensively, and found the perfect alignment to world events... looking forward to this “drama” to play out, and be over with...