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Franco [OP]

2003-05-17 05:18 | User Profile

[Cont. theme from Linder thread about Nazis vs. Christians]

This is proof that Nazism rejected Christianity:

"By 1942 Reich leader Martin Bormann, who served as chief of staff of Hitler’s Chancellery, circulated among National Socialist (Nazi) Party leaders a letter plainly stating that "National Socialist and Christian concepts are incompatible." Bormann stated that Nazi Party officials had come to the conclusion that "the evangelical church opposes us with the same hostility as the Catholic Church. Any strengthening of the evangelical church would merely work against us." Bormann emphasized that "it must be made absolutely impossible for the Church to exercise its old influence" and suggested that Christianity would eventually find itself "suppressed by the state."

URL: [url=http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1998/vo14no13/vo14no13_liberty.htm]http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1998/vo1...o13_liberty.htm[/url] [forget the pro-Jew bullcrap within the text. The same essay is found in the book "Nazi Culture," 1966, by Mosse].


Franco

2003-05-17 06:19 | User Profile

Hitler's right-hand man rejected Christianity. That speaks volumes.

Also, "The New Jew-Friendly American" or not, that Bormann essay is repeated elsewhere....

Hang it up...

[img]http://www.worldwartwotimeline.com/Goebbels.GIF[/img]


jamestown

2003-05-17 17:39 | User Profile

The nazi philosophy was basically anti Christian. I have seen enough propaganda booklets to confirm that. Well I personally am a Lutheran Christian, got the whole upbringing with religious education in school (separation of church and state have never really been achieved over here) plus weekly courses for two years by the local reverent. It did not really spur my religiousity, as I hardly attend church. The Lutheran Church a generation ago was pretty nationalist (Luther himself was a nationalist, and antisemite by the way) but today it is far left. Their recent slogan at the Church Days was "Please immigrate". Does that mean that Christianity should be dropped because the churches have been undermined? I do not see Chistianity as the problem nor the solution to our current mess. Nationalism is primarily a secular movement and should stay that way, staying neutral on religion. Atheism does not work from my point of view because it breeds nihilism and materialism. Great culture always has a religious background. Atheism always leaves a spiritual void that just waits to be filled. The only force that can fill the spiritual void of Europe is Islam. Do you want that? So what to do? I would say that the churches, like most other institutions will go in any direction the Zeitgeist demands them to go. Attack the Zeitgeist, or better Zeitungeist, and the churches will follow.


seq

2003-05-17 18:31 | User Profile

[img]http://www.redrat.net/thoughts/iraq/gott_mit_uns.jpg[/img] German WWII Wehrmacht buckle (Gott Mit Uns, with swastika)

[img]http://psmilitaria.50megs.com/images/587.jpg[/img] German WW1 Infantry buckle (Gott Mit Uns, with crown)

National Socialism replaced the Kaiser’s crown with the swastika; but the words Gott Mit Uns--God With Us--remained unchanged. Whatever religion Hitler and his Deputies may have privately preferred, they knew that the Wehrmacht was overwhelmingly Christian. And that they fought, essentially unaided, for the benefit of all Christian Europe, as their ancestors had always done, which makes the final outcome, and our disgraceful part in it, all the more tragic.


Ruffin

2003-05-17 19:51 | User Profile

So what do you fellows think will be the state of Christianity once people discover that it has spent at least over half a century allied with the devil, aka communism/phariseeism/virulently anti-Christian world Jewry?


Bardamu

2003-05-18 16:08 | User Profile

Originally posted by Ruffin@May 17 2003, 13:51 So what do you fellows think will be the state of Christianity once people discover that it has spent at least over half a century allied with the devil, aka communism/phariseeism/virulently anti-Christian world Jewry?

Ha,ha. People are never going to realize it. They are too stupid.