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Thread ID: 6515 | Posts: 22 | Started: 2003-05-06
2003-05-06 17:29 | User Profile
[url=http://www.hannity.com/forum/index.cfm?frmid=6&tpcid=25726]http://www.hannity.com/forum/index.cfm?frm...d=6&tpcid=25726[/url] Note: The posts start at the BOTTOM of the page and are added ON TOP of each other. See what I deal with in Neo-con central. I'm "oppressivewhitey" over there.
2003-05-06 18:33 | User Profile
I read somewhere, maybe Stormfront, that the reason the kids decided to have their own "white" prom, was because the other one, neither of which were sanctioned by the High school, was to be held at a "black" college. Now who's the "racists" here? and besides that who cares? I went to a segregated high school, and the thought of going to a "black" college for a party would scare the hell out of me.
2003-05-06 20:02 | User Profile
Black colleges, black dorms at white colleges, black graduation ceremonies at white colleges...not to mention black churches.
All these exist and are perfectly fine with me. All these white kids were doing was behaving naturally, seeking solidarity and comfort in a homogeneous environment. It's called "being with your own kind." All they are is human.
BTW, O'Reilly really sucked on this last night. I hate that phoney Mik.
2003-05-06 22:28 | User Profile
The level of idiocy and mindless PC on that page betrays the Jewish origin of neoconism.
2003-05-07 15:17 | User Profile
I understand I'm probably a little late to the party with these observations but .... why does it seem these kinder-gentler conservatives speak out both sides of their piehole on EVERYTHING??
-- It's their legal right to segregate themselves, but their "racism" is abhorrent -- We need to control our borders, but by all means we're a "nation of immigrants" and we welcome all colors and creeds...indeed, the more the merrier! -- Affirmative action is wrong, but still, we need to stamp out discrimination wherever it exists -- South African apartheid was unconscionable, but the "only democracy in the middle east" must be defended and cozied up to at all costs
and so on, and so on regarding any issue that might get them branded a "hater" should they go full bore... it's clear these fools feel most comfortable operating from a position of apology and weakness. My question is, do they actaully buy this crap, or are they simply intellectual cowards?
2003-05-07 15:24 | User Profile
It's all about compromise, which the Republican party masters at. All it took was to see Bush speaking in front of an audience of "Iraqi-Americans" while their brethren in the old country were being destroyed at the hands of American troops to see how contradictory these people are. I still don't get how "liberating" people means to kill them without shame. Add to the fact that the U.S. troops and generals are now getting good night sleeps in palatial digs once occupuied by Iraqi's. How sleazy.
:dung:
2003-05-08 04:39 | User Profile
Originally posted by EDUMAKATEDMOFO@May 7 2003, 11:17 ** I understand I'm probably a little late to the party with these observations but .... why does it seem these kinder-gentler conservatives speak out both sides of their piehole on EVERYTHING??
-- It's their legal right to segregate themselves, but their "racism" is abhorrent -- We need to control our borders, but by all means we're a "nation of immigrants" and we welcome all colors and creeds...indeed, the more the merrier! -- Affirmative action is wrong, but still, we need to stamp out discrimination wherever it exists -- South African apartheid was unconscionable, but the "only democracy in the middle east" must be defended and cozied up to at all costs
and so on, and so on regarding any issue that might get them branded a "hater" should they go full bore... it's clear these fools feel most comfortable operating from a position of apology and weakness. My question is, do they actaully buy this crap, or are they simply intellectual cowards? **
You're right--isn't that maddening? These "mainstream" conservatives claim to oppose the agenda of liberalism, yet they make sure that they never really challenge liberal presuppositions at their root, never failing to kneel at the altar of egalitarianism, and so on. Mainstream conservatism is a losing game, because they constantly concede validity to their opponents on the Left.
2003-05-08 05:53 | User Profile
Edumakated, I like your style. Plus you're the gadfly at Melon-Head Hannity's forum, a noble calling in these calamitous times. More power to you!
2003-05-08 08:02 | User Profile
Originally posted by EDUMAKATEDMOFO@May 7 2003, 15:17 ** I understand I'm probably a little late to the party with these observations but .... why does it seem these kinder-gentler conservatives speak out both sides of their piehole on EVERYTHING?? **
Assuming that your question was more than merely rhetorical, the answer is to be found in Kevin MacDonald's "The Culture of Critique".
This book has rightly been called the "Rosetta Stone" of our movement.
It explains clearly why the double standard you rightly note exists, and identifies precisely whose interests are served thereby.
I understand that there is a $5 download available on the Internet of CoC, perhaps somebody could post a link.
Warmest regards,
Walter
2003-05-08 14:44 | User Profile
Originally posted by PaleoconAvatar@May 7 2003, 22:39 ** You're right--isn't that maddening? These "mainstream" conservatives claim to oppose the agenda of liberalism, yet they make sure that they never really challenge liberal presuppositions at their root, never failing to kneel at the altar of egalitarianism, and so on. Mainstream conservatism is a losing game, because they constantly concede validity to their opponents on the Left. **
Well said my friend... the neo con agenda is steeped in surrender, compromise, and capitulation... that is why any truly conservative ideas that are put forth on the Hannity forums get only tenuous support... it's as if they have to check first to see if they pass the "compassion" test.
It's a balancing act I maintain to keep myself from being banned over there.. indeed, any and all discussions of the 'race question' are watched over with an Orwellian eye... mostly I'm over there just to try to counterbalance Hannity's astounding clownery... to poke holes in their misguided ideology... and to flush their moronic notions down my personal six-gallon crapper. I know this effect has been acheived when the protests of "bigot", "anti-semite" and "isoltionist" subside and my irrefutable wisdom is instead met with..... silence.
2003-05-08 15:13 | User Profile
Thank you for the recommendation, Mr. Yannis... sounds like an interesting read... I plan to purchase this book.
2003-05-08 17:51 | User Profile
Related neocon Irishman [O'Reilly] thread on this issue....
[url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?&act=ST&f=28&t=7724]http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php...=ST&f=28&t=7724[/url]
O'Reilly admits defeat!
2003-05-12 15:24 | User Profile
I'm having a little fun on the Hannity forum. So far, only one of my posts was pulled down --- wherein I discussed the circularity of the assertion that Israel is our "only friend" in the Middle East. The prom posts have all stayed up. So far. But we're all the same under the skin! squeal the "conservatives" on the board. It's reassuring to see how stunted the intellects are on such boards. Gives me hope.
Edumakated, you've nicely summarized "conservative" hypocrisy on race. I venture that most of us at OD see no problem with government taking racial categories into account, something the Hannities haven't thought over yet. In fact, the Hannities and the Limbos and the rest are all now in a stiff competition with each other to declare themselves LESS "racist" than their supposed liberal enemies. As in, "Uh, it's really Democrats and liberals who are racist, because they support affirmative action, and uh..." Which has coherence so far as it goes, but you're right to note that they aren't taking anything to a logical conclusion.
2003-05-12 16:25 | User Profile
Sir,
Would you be willing to post a link to some of the threads you're contributing to? The forum has 24,000 members and it's a bit like wading in the ocean at times... One of the scant few sensible voices, an ally of the paleo type, was banned simply for mentioning the link, www.white-history.com... he had gone by "campofsaints" deathtoneocons" and "sundevil" ... since that time I've found virtually no-one to commiserate with full-bore paleo fervor on that site... sometimes the tag-team approach works well in planting the seeds of enlightenment--- and I do believe a few of the Hannitized can be turned toward the light... otherwise I wouldn't waste my time over there.
2003-05-12 17:47 | User Profile
How about a link to this Hannity Forum? Hannity grew up in Franklin Square NY, like I did.
In NJ, there are dozens of Black Cotillions every year. They are like Proms, but the kids are ugly, stupid, and foul mouthed.
2003-05-12 18:38 | User Profile
I've posted to Georgia Prom 2003 and one about Israel support. I keep going back and forth with "Frankfurt," the one who started the prom thread.
The worst are the yahoos who say stuff like, "The Bible says the Jews are God's chosen people. You'll rot in hell if you don't believe that." I don't really know how to respond to that. Debate with third-graders is tricky.
On the black-white issue, I'm just trying to calmly present facts and ask questions to see what responses I get.
Ed - there's a link to the Hannity forum up top.
2003-05-12 18:43 | User Profile
EDUMAKATED, are you South African?
P.S. I just signed up as ProdigalSon. Watch me kick those clown's asses with truth like I do rban's :).
2003-05-12 18:52 | User Profile
Originally posted by Hugh Lincoln@May 12 2003, 09:24 ** In fact, the Hannities and the Limbos and the rest are all now in a stiff competition with each other to declare themselves LESS "racist" than their supposed liberal enemies. As in, "Uh, it's really Democrats and liberals who are racist, because they support affirmative action, and uh..." Which has coherence so far as it goes, but you're right to note that they aren't taking anything to a logical conclusion. **
Exactly. Hannity really is base... he knows that this tactic, perfected by "libs", can't be trumped...the lowest common denominator, the last word in ending in any disagreement, is to accuse the other of "racism". And the assumption is tacit that white racism is the worst of all, so he plays it to the hilt. The upshot of it all is that whitey gets skewered ... again. How conveeeeenient.
2003-05-12 18:57 | User Profile
Originally posted by Prodigal Son@May 12 2003, 12:43 ** EDUMAKATED, are you South African?
P.S. I just signed up as ProdigalSon. Watch me kick those clown's asses with truth like I do rban's :). **
No I am not... I am American... I just fly the old RSA flag (the legitimate ruling entity) in response to a few members who fly the Israeli Star of David... needless to say it has prompted some interesting discussions on the "Israeli Apartheid" question.
2003-05-13 15:52 | User Profile
I'm EJToner in the Hannity Forum. Also in the Pravda Forum.
[url=http://engforum.pravda.ru/]http://engforum.pravda.ru/[/url]
2003-05-13 19:33 | User Profile
I saw you, Ed! Let's overtake the Hannity forum. I see other sympathizers on that board ganging up on the colorblind conservatives. Someone started a threat called simply "White Men," and it's gotten a few good (though mostly juvenile) responses.
2003-05-13 21:03 | User Profile
Well done, my friends...excellent work!
Mr. Lincoln, from experience I can tell you the moderator will be looking for any excuse to give you the boot from here on out... to deal with this threat I make sure to dispense my racialist pathos somewhat gradually, with careful delicacy if I can help it.