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Ragnar [OP]

2003-05-05 15:31 | User Profile

(Utterly straight article from the Philly Inquirer or my Irony Detector just isn't working today.)

Posted on Sun, May. 04, 2003

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Neoconservatives

They emerged from behind the scenes politically to change American foreign policy. But they've always been there, and Iraq is only one of their goals.

By Dick Polman Inquirer Staff Writer

WASHINGTON - For seven long years, Bill Kristol agitated for a U.S. coup against Saddam Hussein, and argued that America should remake the world to serve its own interests. Few bothered to listen at the time. So how does he feel now?

In his office the other day, he grinned without smirking. That's how most of the hawkish defense intellectuals - better known as neoconservatives - are behaving these days. Although they're sitting pretty in wartime Washington, they're trying not to preen.

Kristol refuses to strut his stuff, because he knows how fast the high and mighty can be brought low in this town; after all, he was once Vice President Dan Quayle's chief of staff. Still, he can't resist contending that Sept. 11 made all the "neocons" look like prophets.

"We saw, earlier than most people, that the world was very dangerous, that America's drift during the '90s was very dangerous," he said Wednesday at the Weekly Standard, the Rupert Murdoch-financed magazine he edits that promotes the neocon credo. "We were alarmed; we tried to call attention to all that. So I don't want to say we feel vindicated, but we do feel our analysis was right."

The neocons - think-tank warriors and commentators, all of whom cite Ronald Reagan's moral clarity - are hot these days because they emerged from the political wilderness to alter the course of American foreign policy. And Iraq is just the beginning, as Kristol cheerily contended: "President Bush is committed, pretty far down the road. The logic of events says you can't go halfway. You can't liberate Iraq, then quit."

The neocons care little about domestic policy; they think globally. They don't believe in peaceful coexistence with hostile, undemocratic states; rather, they want an "unapologetic, idealistic, assertive" America (in Kristol's words) that will foment pro-democratic revolutions around the world, if necessary at the point of a gun.

The neocon assumption - that the American way is best for everybody, whether foreigners know it or not - is not shared by their numerous critics. Establishment Republicans, many of whom worked for Bush's father, worry that the fomenting of new "regime changes" will sow more global terrorism against Americans. Liberals simply say that the neocons have captured Bush's brain.

Historian Allan Lichtman said that regardless of whether one agrees with the neocons, "they are historically important, because, in the post-Cold War world, they are providing an intellectual justification for the continuation of the national security state."

Others talk darkly about a "neocon cabal" that includes a media empire (Murdoch also owns Fox News), policy shops (notably the American Enterprise Institute, home to many neocon scholars and Kristol's Project for a New American Century), and revenue sources (particularly the Bradley Foundation, which has helped finance the policy shops).

In a sense, it is tight-knit. The institute, Kristol's Project for a New American Century, and the Weekly Standard are all housed in the same Washington office building, a square slab of concrete 12 stories high. During Gulf War II, it was the place to be; every Tuesday morning, the institute hosted public "black-coffee briefings" led by Tom Donnelly, an institute scholar who once worked for the Project for a New American Century.

The neocons move between these groups and Bush's government. In 1998, the Project for a New American Century sent an open letter to President Bill Clinton, urging that he overthrow Hussein; 10 of the signatories now work for Bush. And when Bush spoke in February at the institute (Lynne Cheney, the vice president's wife, is a board member), he said that his team had borrowed 20 of its scholars.

Neocon Richard Perle, a Pentagon adviser, was an institute scholar; so was John Bolton, who now has a key undersecretary post in the State Department. Today, the institute still has hawks who were hawks before the neocon label became hip; witness ex-Reagan Pentagon adviser Michael Ledeen, who, while puffing on a fat cigar the other day, said: "Americans believe that peace is normal, but that's not true. Life isn't like that. Peace is abnormal."

But is this a cabal? Networking is a way of life in Washington; Democrats do it, too. Max Boot, another prominent neocon (and a think-tank scholar who writes for Kristol's magazine), said: "The liberals have plenty of well-organized and well-funded groups. The problem is that they don't have any good ideas to sell, at least not on foreign policy. To judge from their recent antiwar invective, a large part of the party is still in cloud cuckoo land."

Marshall Wittmann, a close observer of the neocons and a friend of Kristol's, said: "The neocons are all about ideas. They understand how to promote those ideas. They get a lot of bang for the buck. It's the way they frame their arguments, and into whose hands they put those arguments. Also, while a fair number of conservatives shun the mainstream press, Bill participates in it."

In the '90s, the neocons were also relentless. Paul Wolfowitz, now the deputy defense secretary, was a Pentagon underling in 1992 under Dick Cheney when he drafted a document declaring that America should move against potential rivals, even if forced to act alone: "The United States should be postured to act independently when collective action cannot be orchestrated."

The document was deemed too radical; it was watered down. But four years later, in a foreign-policy journal, Kristol and colleague Robert Kagan tried again, writing that America, in pursuit of "benevolent global hegemony," should be willing to confront hostile countries and "bring about a change of regime."

But, as Kristol now recalls, "that article was pretty much ignored." So was his magazine's special issue of Dec. 1, 1997, titled Saddam Must Go. In fact, most Republicans didn't care; on Capitol Hill, they were talking about a lower U.S. profile in the world. And Bush, during his 2000 campaign, talked of showing "humility" abroad.

It was Sept. 11 that put the neocons in play; until that day, they had been castigating Bush for not being tough enough overseas. And now, looking back, they freely admit that Bush embraced their national-security strategy only because he had been jolted by events.

Gary Schmitt, a former Reagan administration intelligence expert who now runs Kristol's think tank, said: "Without 9/11, Bush might have been off wandering in the desert, in terms of foreign policy. He might have been looking for a minimal foreign-policy voice so that he could concentrate on domestic matters. So we [neocons] might not have been in a good position at all.

"Even now, do we feel triumphant? No. We've been around this town too long. Our job is to continue to push."

The neocon crusade for a democratic Middle East, abetted by American might, has just begun. Last week, Kristol's magazine rebuked Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld for refusing to commit himself to building a military base in Iraq, and tweaked Bush for being "too hasty" in praising Syria for its vow to expel Hussein's henchmen. The neocons, fearing that monetary constraints could hamper their vision, also want a defense budget much bigger than what the Bush team has proposed.

And if people overseas don't like the more imperious America, the neocon response is basically: So what? Boot said: "Being number one will always elicit a certain amount of resentment; lots of people outside New York hate the Yankees, just as lots of people outside Dallas have always hated the Cowboys. That doesn't mean the Yankees and Cowboys can't go on winning."

Kristol shrugged, "We're going to get criticized for being an imperial power anyway, so you might as well make sure that the good guys win.

"But there will be obstacles, and I'm worried about them. Iraq is going to be messy, there's no easy solution to North Korea, and there are risks in confronting Iran. Some things can go wrong. But it's always better to err on the side of strength. The pressures will be great, but this is what it means to live in a genuinely historic moment."


Contact staff writer Dick Polman at 215-854-4430 or dpolman@phillynews.com.


Okiereddust

2003-05-05 16:36 | User Profile

The neocons move between these groups and Bush's government. In 1998, the Project for a New American Century sent an open letter to President Bill Clinton, urging that he overthrow Hussein; 10 of the signatories now work for Bush. And when Bush spoke in February at the institute (Lynne Cheney, the vice president's wife, is a board member), he said that his team had borrowed 20 of its scholars.

Who were the neocon writers that said there were only a few neocons in the Bush administration? Ever notice how we always keep hearing the same lies over and over again from the neo's?

Just as an aside, it might be interesting for someone to put together a list of "talking points" regarding these key questions, in an organized fashion, for the neophytes out there. It might help them considerably, especially those who don't have time to thoroughly study neocondom like we do.


Roger Bannister

2003-05-05 18:48 | User Profile

The attacks on 9/11 made William Pierce look like a prophet also. He's the one that said to buy a helmet, and stay out of tall buildings like the WTC. Why isn't he mentioned?


Drakmal

2003-05-05 20:46 | User Profile

The neocons care little about domestic policy; they think globally. They don't believe in peaceful coexistence with hostile, undemocratic states; rather, they want an etc etc newspeak blah blah...

This about sums up the most effective way possible to attack neo-dom: their position is that the country can go to hell in a handbasket as long as we can take stuff from other countries (and pass on-paper-only marginal tax cuts). The mainstream cons I know in person don't adopt the 'conservative' moniker because they give a rat's ass about the middle east, or want to make the world safe for democracy--they're social conservatives, interested mostly in domestic policy and making our country a better place to live and raise a family. And this is where the neos show their true colors of white and blue most flagrantly, and hence where they're most vulnerable.


il ragno

2003-05-05 21:59 | User Profile

He can't resist contending that Sept. 11 made all the "neocons" look like prophets.

"Buzzards swooping on carrion" is more like it, capitalizing on the death they sowed (and tidily stepped away from themselves). There is a danger that a fallacious interpretation might catch on & become popular: that the Jews only became a controlling factor in American life with the neos' ascension to power on Bush's coat-tails. Watch for a few select Jews to loudly begin making (thus legitimizing) the Neo/Jew connection they've warned us not to attempt ourselves without the proper Semitic supervision. (It's very important for the next 'go-to' Jew to be able to cite his leadership in the coalition combating neos, the way Stephen Schwartz has to tout his own 'pre-eminence' in a "battling Wahhabi'ism". Remember - all people ever need is one or two "good" Jews to see on tv, or read on the op-ed page, to grant the whole tribe dispensation.)

"We've been around this town too long. Our job is to continue to push."

Truer words were never spoken. Neo-ism has come and will go, and bet the ranch the leaders of the mob that storms the battlements will be every bit as Jewish as the heads they'll parade on poles. But the important work - the Jew solidifying his total control, safe in the knowledge that you can always make a goy sit up and whimper "Hitler!"....that continues! No matter how tight he's turning the screws on us, that work continues. Unless he is isolated & identified - not as a "liberal", or a "conservative", or a "neoconservative", or even a "leftist", but as a Jew.


Ragnar

2003-05-06 22:48 | User Profile

Originally posted by Okiereddust@May 5 2003, 16:36 ** Just as an aside, it might be interesting for someone to put together a list of "talking points" regarding these key questions, in an organized fashion, for the neophytes out there. It might help them considerably, especially those who don't have time to thoroughly study neocondom like we do. **

Okie, you have a very important point here.

When the war started people I know were literally furious at how lousey the news coverage of it was, and even more furious at the confusion and bad attitude they were getting from dissidents on all points of the political compass.

Some cooperative effort in producing short, non-emotional education tracts is sorely needed. There's a lot of good stuff on the net, but neophytes are put off by bad language, posturing and jargon they are unfamiliar with.

Doing a few leaflets on the WMB lie and neocons only showed me how far we have to go. But I also found out that people really do want answers.


toddbrendanfahey

2003-05-06 22:59 | User Profile

**The Truth Hurts:**

Faust

2003-05-07 01:26 | User Profile

toddbrendanfahey,

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