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Thread ID: 6356 | Posts: 7 | Started: 2003-04-27
2003-04-27 14:05 | User Profile
[url=http://www.forward.com/issues/2003/03.04.25/news7.html]http://www.forward.com/issues/2003/03.04.25/news7.html[/url]
Israelis:"We do not want a Jewish president"
By E.J. KESSLER
FORWARD STAFF
Does the presidential candidacy of Connecticut Senator Joseph Lieberman have a Jewish problem? Some folks seem to think so.
The Hartford Courant took its home-state senator to task last week for what it called his "dismal" first-quarter contribution filing, saying there was a "Jewish wrinkle" to Lieberman's lackluster showing: The senator's centrist values are out of step with the liberal Jews who give to Democratic candidates, the paper reported.
Problem is, many of the more conservative Jewish Democrats who might give to Lieberman appear not to be reaching for their checkbooks, either.
"Joe's natural big constituency is sitting on their hands," said one New York fundraiser and Lieberman supporter who spoke on condition of anonymity. "Many, many Jewish people do not want a Jewish president."
The fundraiser said that many politically conservative and centrist Jews "are big fans of George Bush right now," especially because "the Israelis are telling people that he's their best friend" and "people do not want a Jewish president when relations with Israel could become very tense."
Lieberman also has caused some of his own problems, the fundraiser said. "People did not love Joe's last campaign," the fundraiser said, referring to Lieberman's 2000 vice-presidential run. "He's not 'good old Joe' anymore. He seems more like a politician."
Finally, he suggested, God himself has been unkind to Joseph I. Lieberman: "People say he's too short. He doesn't look presidential."
Such problems lead the fundraiser to conclude that Lieberman's bid is doomed. "I don't think he has legs," he said. "I'd be amazed if he went all the way."
Others think Lieberman's recent fundraising troubles stem from his politics and persona. "Lieberman's problems are not about his being Jewish but about him being a neo-con in a Democratic primary, about his apparent inability to connect with voters/givers without Al Gore's shirttails, about his lack of relationships with individual big fundraisers and about his so-far lackluster campaign," said a Democratic strategist who, like the fundraiser, declined to be named.
A glance at several candidates' filings suggests some troubling weaknesses in Lieberman's fundraising efforts to date. For example, Lieberman's operation appears to have done little bundling of contributions from multiple family members or members of the same firm. Meanwhile, the top earners, Senators John Kerry of Massachusetts and John Edwards of North Carolina have done plenty. Lieberman donors tend to cluster in four states Connecticut, New York, California and Florida , while other campaigns, particularly Kerry's, have broad penetration throughout the country. Meanwhile, Jewish political mega- givers, such as S. Daniel Abraham and Haim Saban, gave to four different campaigns , but not to Lieberman. The Connecticut senator did poorly among many big givers who gave to multiple candidates, according to a cross tabulation of campaign filings done by National Journal's daily Hotline.
Lieberman's campaign has cited a late start as the reason for its troubles. "We are pleased with the strong support we have in the Jewish- American community," spokesman Jano Cabrera said. "But as is the case with any group, we are not taking that support for granted. Lieberman intends to work hard for every vote."
Others dismissed the dicey filing as a passing phase. "I haven't heard that [Lieberman's campaign] is having any trouble, and I speak to them a lot," said Washington fundraising consultant Tina Stoll. "It's very early. Nobody should count anybody out."
2003-04-27 18:04 | User Profile
It's true that having an openly Orthodox Jewish President of America would be a blow to Jewish world power.
A) It would negate the argument that Israel needs to exist as a safe haven for Jews.
B) It would add feul to radicals the world over who hate the United States.
C) It will make the US-Israel alliance appear much more obvious to the casual viewer.
D) Secular Jews would not want a religious Jew being viewed as the de facto leader of world Judaism.
2003-04-29 20:14 | User Profile
All true. Joe won't get the Dem nomination, Kerry will. An orthodox Jewish president of the United States would simply be too good for our cause, and even a low-rent political advisor knows it. Christians know it, Jews know it, Republicans know it, Democrats know it. So it won't happen.
I love how Lieberman aims for White cred by denouncing Hollywood & Co. A perfectly genius staged fight for Gentile benefit: If there's one thing even num-num Whites will tell you, it's that "the Jews control Hollywood," linked to the pumping of filth into our homes, theaters and airwaves. But Joe draws that sting with his attacks, thereby convincing num-nums that "not all Jews are bad."
Meanwhile, of course, Hollywood keeps pumping the bilge, and the chosenites install Israel's best friend in the frickin' White House. Jews 1, Jews 1, Gentiles -2. What a game.
2003-04-29 20:26 | User Profile
It's true that having an openly Orthodox Jewish President of America would be a blow to Jewish world power.
A) It would negate the argument that Israel needs to exist as a safe haven for Jews.
It would add feul to radicals the world over who hate the United States.
C) It will make the US-Israel alliance appear much more obvious to the casual viewer.
D) Secular Jews would not want a religious Jew being viewed as the de facto leader of world Judaism.**
True, and understood. But, there is something else here as well: Jews play this canny little game called "lying through your teeth to provide cover for your Tribe." Seen it many times. In fact, I just saw it yesterday -- a Jew trying to suggest that the Rosenberg spies of the 1940s/1950s were not Jewish because Julius Rosenberg's first name [Julius] was "usually not Jewish." Ha!
Jews are the world's trickiest and sleaziest people, and they do this sort of thing daily, in one form or another. They may not even be aware that they do it, according to KMacD.
Jews: The Sneaky People.
2003-04-30 17:07 | User Profile
John F. Kerry
Kerryââ¬â¢s grandparents Fritz and Sarah Kohn ââ¬â born Czech Republic slither into America under the assumed named of Kerry. His grandfather died in a mysterious hotel shooting. His father a full bloodied jew named Frederick A. Kerry.
Kerryââ¬â¢s father was a diplomat and marries Rosemary Forbes. Kerry went to Yale law school.
** Deductions**
Forbes are Boston elite but they let their daughter marry the son of a jewish rag peddler ? Your conclusion there is [color=red]Kerryââ¬â¢s mother had to be a Jewess. [/color]From the pictures it is obvious Kerryââ¬â¢s sisters and brothers are jewish.
His brother Cameron marries a full blooded Jewess.
[color=red]The real question[/color]--- How many others are out there ?
From pictures of his brothers and sisters - Kohn aka Kerry was obviously a jew.
2003-04-30 22:42 | User Profile
Hey, let me tell you, Skunk, and ALL OD members:
There are a LOT of powerful people in this world who are crypto-Jews, or hidden Jews; their families "converted" years ago. Millionaires, talk-show hosts, corporate bigshots, etc. LOTS.
Think about it....[shudder].
We gotta invent fast blood tests for these people....
2003-04-30 23:52 | User Profile
"Forbes are Boston elite but they let their daughter marry the son of a jewish rag peddler ?" Why not? The Forbes' were opium peddlers. Much of the Anglo-American elite have never had any compunction about marrying kosher, since a combination of Calvinism, Masonry, and "British Israel" mythology made them psychological Hebrews. I've said it before, the British Empire, as the enforcer (or golem) for international Zion, was the greatest collection of traitors to the White race. Now the USA has taken lead in that role, and the same ignominious fate awaits it.