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il ragno [OP]

2003-04-16 21:49 | User Profile

...something to think about the next time you're about to hire a brass band to celebrate Brimelow or Sam Francis' 'restraint'.....

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[color=green][font=Impact][SIZE=3]GENERAL PATTON'S WARNING [/font][/color][/SIZE]

At the end of World War II, one of America's top military leaders accurately assessed the shift in the balance of world power which that war had produced and foresaw the enormous danger of communist aggression against the West. Alone among U.S. leaders he warned that America should act immediately, while her supremacy was unchallengeable, to end that danger. Unfortunately, his warning went unheeded, and he was quickly silenced by a convenient "accident" which took his life.

Thirty-two years ago, in the terrible summer of 1945, the U.S. Army had just completed the destruction of Europe and had set up a government of military occupation amid the ruins to rule the starving Germans and deal out victors' justice to the vanquished. General George S. Patton, commander of the U.S. Third Army, became military governor of the greater portion of the American occupation zone of Germany.

Patton was regarded as the "fightingest" general in all the Allied forces. He was considerably more audacious and aggressive than most commanders, and his martial ferocity may very well have been the deciding factor which led to the Allied victory. He personally commanded his forces in many of the toughest and most decisive battles of the war: in Tunisia, in Sicily, in the cracking of the Siegried Line, in holding back the German advance during the Battle of the Bulge, in the exceptionally bloody fighting around Bastogne in December 1944 and January 1945.

During the war Patton had respected the courage and the fighting qualities of the Germans -- especially when he compared them with those of some of America's allies -- but he had also swallowed whole the hate-inspired wartime propaganda generated by America's alien media masters. He believed Germany was a menace to America's freedom and that Germany's National Socialist government was an especially evil institution. Acting on these beliefs he talked incessantly of his desire to kill as many Germans as possible, and he exhorted his troops to have the same goal. These bloodthirsty exhortations led to the nickname "Blood and Guts" Patton.

It was only in the final days of the war and during his tenure as military governor of Germany -- after he had gotten to know both the Germans and America's "gallant Soviet allies" -- that Patton's understanding of the true situation grew and his opinions changed. In his diary and in many letters to his family, friends, various military colleagues, and government officials, he expressed his new understanding and his apprehensions for the future. His diary and his letters were published in 1974 by the Houghton Mifflin Company under the title The Patton Papers.

Several months before the end of the war, General Patton had recognized the fearful danger to the West posed by the Soviet Union, and he had disagreed bitterly with the orders which he had been given to hold back his army and wait for the Red Army to occupy vast stretches of German, Czech, Rumanian, Hungarian, and Yugoslav territory, which the Americans could have easily taken instead.

On May 7, 1945, just before the German capitulation, Patton had a conference in Austria with U.S. Secretary of War Robert Patterson. Patton was gravely concerned over the Soviet failure to respect the demarcation lines separating the Soviet and American occupation zones. He was also alarmed by plans in Washington for the immediate partial demobilization of the U.S. Army.

Patton said to Patterson: "Let's keep our boots polished, bayonets sharpened, and present a picture of force and strength to the Red Army. This is the only language they understand and respect."

Patterson replied, "Oh, George, you have been so close to this thing so long, you have lost sight of the big picture."

Patton rejoined: "I understand the situation. Their (the Soviet) supply system is inadequate to maintain them in a serious action such as I could put to them. They have chickens in the coop and cattle on the hoof -- that's their supply system. They could probably maintain themselves in the type of fighting I could give them for rive days. After that it would make no difference how many million men they have, and if you wanted Moscow I could give it to you. They lived on the land coming down. There is insufficient left for them to maintain themselves going back. Let's not give them time to build up their supplies. If we do, then . . . we have had a victory over the Germans and disarmed them, but we have failed in the liberation of Europe; we have lost the war!"

Patton's urgent and prophetic advice went unheeded by Patterson and the other politicians and only served to give warning about Patton's feelings to the alien conspirators behind the scenes in New York, Washington, and Moscow.

The more he saw of the Soviets, the stronger Patton's conviction grew that the proper course of action would be to stifle communism then and there, while the chance existed. Later in May 1945 he attended several meetings and social affairs with top Red Army officers, and he evaluated them carefully. He noted in his diary on May 14: "I have never seen in any army at any time, including the German Imperial Army of 1912, as severe discipline as exists in the Russian army. The officers, with few exceptions, give the appearance of recently civilized Mongolian bandits."

And Patton's aide, General Hobart Gay, noted in his own journal for May 14: "Everything they (the Russians) did impressed one with the idea of virility and cruelty."

Nevertheless, Patton knew that the Americans could whip the Reds then -- but perhaps not later. On May 18 he noted in his diary: "In my opinion, the American Army as it now exists could beat the Russians with the greatest of ease, because, while the Russians have good infantry, they are lacking in artillery, air, tanks, and in the knowledge of the use of the combined arms, whereas we excel in all three of these. If it should be necessary to right the Russians, the sooner we do it the better."

Two days later he repeated his concern when he wrote his wife: "If we have to fight them, now is the time. From now on we will get weaker and they stronger."

Having immediately recognized the Soviet danger and urged a course of action which would have freed all of eastern Europe from the communist yoke with the expenditure of far less American blood than was spilled in Korea and Vietnam and would have obviated both those later wars not to mention World War III -- Patton next came to appreciate the true nature of the people for whom World War II was fought: the Jews.

Most of the Jews swarming over Germany immediately after the war came from Poland and Russia, and Patton found their personal habits shockingly uncivilized.

He was disgusted by their behavior in the camps for Displaced Persons (DP's) which the Americans built for them and even more disgusted by the way they behaved when they were housed in German hospitals and private homes. He observed with horror that "these people do not understand toilets and refuse to use them except as repositories for tin cans, garbage, and refuse . . . They decline, where practicable, to use latrines, preferring to relieve themselves on the floor."

He described in his diary one DP camp, "where, although room existed, the Jews were .crowded together to an appalling extent, and in practically every room there was a pile of garbage in one corner which was also used as a latrine. The Jews were only forced to desist from their nastiness and clean up the mess by the threat of the butt ends of rifles. Of course, I know the expression 'lost tribes of Israel' applied to the tribes which disappeared -- not to the tribe of Judah from which the current sons of bitches are descended. However, it is my personal opinion that this too is a lost tribe -- lost to all decency."

Patton's initial impressions of the Jews were not improved when he attended a Jewish religious service at Eisenhower's insistence. His diary entry for September 17, 1945, reads in part: "This happened to be the feast of Yom Kippur, so they were all collected in a large, wooden building, which they called a synagogue. It behooved General Eisenhower to make a speech to them. We entered the synagogue, which was packed with the greatest stinking bunch of humanity I have ever seen. When we got about halfway up, the head rabbi, who was dressed in a fur hat similar to that worn by Henry VIII of England and in a surplice heavily embroidered and very filthy, came down and met the General . . . The smell was so terrible that I almost fainted and actually about three hours later lost my lunch as the result of remembering it."

These experiences and a great many others firmly convinced Patton that the Jews were an especially unsavory variety of creature and hardly deserving of all the official concern the American government was bestowing on them. Another September diary entry, following a demand from Washington that more German housing be turned over to Jews, summed up his feelings: "Evidently the virus started by Morgenthau and Baruch of a Semitic revenge against all Germans is still working. Harrison (a U.S. State Department official) and his associates indicate that they feel German civilians should be removed from houses for the purpose of housing Displaced Persons. There are two errors in this assumption. First, when we remove an individual German we punish an individual German, while the punishment is -- not intended for the individual but for the race, Furthermore, it is against my Anglo-Saxon conscience to remove a person from a house, which is a punishment, without due process of law. In the second place, Harrison and his ilk believe that the Displaced Person is a human being, which he is not, and this applies particularly to the Jews, who are lower than animals."

One of the strongest factors in straightening out General Patton's thinking on the conquered Germans was the behavior of America's controlled news media toward them. At a press conference in Regensburg, Germany, on May 8, 1945, immediately after Germany's surrender, Patton was asked whether he planned to treat captured SS troops differently from other German POW's. His answer was: "No. SS means no more in Germany than being a Democrat in America -- that is not to be quoted. I mean by that that initially the SS people were special sons of bitches, but as the war progressed they ran out of sons of bitches and then they put anybody in there. Some of the top SS men will be treated as criminals, but there is no reason for trying someone who was drafted into this outfit . . ."

Despite Patton's request that his remark not be quoted, the press eagerly seized on it, and Jews and their front men in America screamed in outrage over Patton's comparison of the SS and the Democratic Party as well as over his announced intention of treating most SS prisoners humanely.

Patton refused to take hints from the press, however, and his disagreement with the American occupation policy formulated in Washington grew. Later in May he said to his brother-in-law: "I think that this non-fraternization is very stupid. If we are going to keep American soldiers in a country, they have to have some civilians to talk to. Furthermore, I think we could do a lot for the German civilians by letting our soldiers talk to their young people."

Various of Patton's colleagues tried to make it perfectly clear what was expected of him. One politically ambitious officer, Brig. Gen. Philip S. Gage, anxious to please the powers that be, wrote to Patton: "Of course, I know that even your extensive powers are limited, but I do hope that wherever and whenever you can you will do what you can to make the German populace suffer. For God's sake, please don't ever go soft in regard to them. Nothing could ever be too bad for them."

But Patton continued to do what he thought was right, whenever he could. With great reluctance, and only after repeated promptings from Eisenhower, he had thrown German families out of their homes to make room for more than a million Jewish DP's -- part of the famous "six million" who had supposedly been gassed -- but he balked when ordered to begin blowing up German factories, in accord with the infamous Morgenthau Plan to destroy Germany's economic basis forever. In his diary he wrote: "I doubted the expediency of blowing up factories, because the ends for which the factories are being blown up -- that is, preventing Germany from preparing for war -- can be equally well attained through the destruction of their machinery, while the buildings can be used to house thousands of homeless persons."

Similarly, he expressed his doubts to his military colleagues about the overwhelming emphasis being placed on the persecution of every German who had formerly been a member of the National Socialist party. In a letter to his wife of September 14, 1945, he said: "I am frankly opposed to this war criminal stuff . It is not cricket and is Semitic. I am also opposed to sending POW's to work as slaves in foreign lands, where many will be starved to death."

Despite his disagreement with official policy, Patton followed the rules laid down by Morgenthau and others back in Washington as closely as his conscience would allow, but he tried to moderate the effect, and this brought him into increasing conflict with Eisenhower and the other politically ambitious generals. In another letter to his wife he commented: "I have been at Frankfurt for a civil government conference. If what we are doing (to the Germans) is 'Liberty, then give me death.' I can't see how Americans can sink so low. It is Semitic, and I am sure of it."

And in his diary he noted:, "Today we received orders . . . in which we were told to give the Jews special accommodations. If for Jews, why not Catholics, Mormons, etc? . . . We are also turning over to the French several hundred thousand prisoners of war to be used as slave labor in France. It is amusing to recall that we fought the Revolution in defense of the rights of man and the Civil War to abolish slavery and have now gone back on both principles."

His duties as military governor took Patton to all parts of Germany and intimately acquainted him with the German people and their condition. He could not help but compare them with the French, the Italians, the Belgians, and even the British. This comparison gradually forced him to the conclusion that World War II had been fought against the wrong people.

After a visit to ruined Berlin, he wrote his wife on July 21, 1945: "Berlin gave me the blues. We have destroyed what could have been a good race, and we are about to replace them with Mongolian savages. And all Europe will be communist. It's said that for the first week after they took it (Berlin), all women who ran were shot and those who did not were raped. I could have taken it (instead of the Soviets) had I been allowed."

This conviction, that the politicians had used him and the U.S. Army for a criminal purpose, grew in the following weeks. During a dinner with French General Alphonse Juin in August, Patton was surprised to find the Frenchman in agreement with him. His diary entry for August 18 quotes Gen. Juin: "It is indeed unfortunate, mon General, that the English and the Americans have destroyed in Europe the only sound country -- and I do not mean France. Therefore, the road is now open for the advent of Russian communism."

Later diary entries and letters to his wife reiterate this same conclusion. On August 31 he wrote: "Actually, the Germans are the only decent people left in Europe. it's a choice between them and the Russians. I prefer the Germans." And on September 2: "What we are doing is to destroy the only semi-modern state in Europe, so that Russia can swallow the whole."

By this time the Morgenthauists and media monopolists had decided that Patton was incorrigible and must be discredited. So they began a non-stop hounding of him in the press, a la Watergate, accusing him of being "soft on Nazis" and continually recalling an incident in which he had slapped a shirker two years previously, during the Sicily campaign. A New York newspaper printed the completely false claim that when Patton had slapped the soldier who was Jewish, he had called him a "yellow-bellied Jew."

Then, in a press conference on September 22, reporters hatched a scheme to needle Patton into losing his temper and making statements which could be used against him. The scheme worked. The press interpreted one of Patton's answers to their insistent questions as to why he was not pressing the Nazi-hunt hard enough as: "The Nazi thing is just like a Democrat-Republican fight." The New York Times headlined this quote, and other papers all across America picked it up.

The unmistakable hatred which had been directed at him during this press conference finally opened Patton's eyes fully as to what was afoot. In his diary that night lie wrote: "There is a very apparent Semitic influence in the press. They are trying to do two things: first, implement communism, and second, see that all businessmen of German ancestry and non-Jewish antecedents are thrown out of their jobs. They have utterly lost the Anglo-Saxon conception of justice and feel that a man can be kicked out because somebody else says he is a Nazi. They were evidently quite shocked when I told them I would kick nobody out without the successful proof of guilt before a court of law . . . Another point which the press harped on was the fact that we were doing too much for the Germans to the detriment of the DP's, most of whom are Jews. I could not give the answer to that one, because the answer is that, in my opinion and that of most nonpolitical officers, it is vitally necessary for us to build Germany up now as a buffer state against Russia. In fact, I am afraid we have waited too long."

And in a letter of the same date to his wife: "I will probably be in the headlines before you get this, as the press is trying to quote me as being more interested in restoring order in Germany than in catching Nazis. I can't tell them the truth that unless we restore Germany we will insure that communism takes America."

Eisenhower responded immediately to the press outcry against Patton and made the decision to relieve him of his duties as military governor and "kick him upstairs" as the commander of the Fifteenth Army. In a letter to his wife on September 29, Patton indicated that he was, in a way, not unhappy with his new assignment, because "I would like it much better than being a sort of executioner to the best race in Europe."

But even his change of duties did not shut Patton up. In his diary entry of October 1 we find the observation: "In thinking over the situation, I could not but be impressed with the belief that at the present moment the unblemished record of the American Army for non-political activities is about to be lost. Everyone seems to be more interested in the effects which his actions will have on his political future than in carrying out the motto of the United States Military Academy, 'Duty, Honor, Country.' I hope that after the current crop of political aspirants has been gathered our former tradition will be restored."

And Patton continued to express these sentiments to his friends -- and those he thought were his friends. On October 22 he wrote a long letter to Maj. Gen. James G. Harbord, who was back in the States. In the letter Patton bitterly condemned the Morgenthau policy; Eisenhower's pusillanimous behavior in the face of Jewish demands; the strong pro-Soviet bias in the press; and the politicization, corruption, degradation, and demoralization of the U.S. Army which these things were causing.

He saw the demoralization of the Army as a deliberate goal of America's enemies: "I have been just as furious as you at the compilation of lies which the communist and Semitic elements of our government have leveled against me and practically every other commander. In my opinion it is a deliberate attempt to alienate the soldier vote from the commanders, because the communists know that soldiers are not communistic, and they fear what eleven million votes (of veterans) would do."

His denunciation of the politicization of the Army was scathing: "All the general officers in the higher brackets receive each morning from the War Department a set of American (newspaper) headlines, and, with the sole exception of myself, they guide themselves during the ensuing day by what they have read in the papers. . . ."

In his letter to Harbord, Patton also revealed his own plans to fight those who were destroying the morale and integrity of the Army and endangering America's future by not opposing the growing Soviet might: "It is my present thought . . . that when I finish this job, which will be around the first of the year, I shall resign, not retire, because if I retire I will still have a gag in my mouth . . . I should not start a limited counterattack, which would be contrary to my military theories, but should wait until I can start an all- out offensive . . . ."

Two months later, on December 23, 1945, General George S. Patton was silenced forever.

This article originally appeared in Issue Number 53 of National Vanguard Tabloid in 1977.


Franco

2003-04-16 22:08 | User Profile

Il Ragno: allow me to add this:


This is the "Semitic" element General Patton referred to:

President Franklin D. Roosevelt's Jewish Cabal
[Newest List]

Meet the Jews who plunged America into WWII by deliberately alienating her from anti-Communist countries such as Germany and Japan long before WWII. These Jews also pioneered the idea of Big Egalitarian Government in America; some of them were later discovered to have been spies for the Soviet Union

Franklin Delano Roosevelt -- president of United States of America, 1933-1945; part-Jewish himself from Dutch-Jewish ancestry.

  1. Bernard M. Baruch -- a financier, and advisor to FDR.

  2. Felix Frankfurter -- Supreme Court Justice; a key player in FDR's New Deal system.

  3. David E. Lilienthal -- director of Tennessee Valley Authority, advisor. The TVA changed the relationship of government-to-business in America.

  4. David Niles -- presidential aide.

  5. Louis Brandeis -- U.S. Supreme Court Justice; close confidante of FDR; "Father" of New Deal.

  6. Samuel I. Rosenman -- official speechwriter for FDR.

  7. Henry Morgenthau -- Secretary of the Treasury, "unofficial" presidential advisor. Father of the Morgenthau Plan to re-structure Germany/Europe after WWII.

  8. Benjamin V. Cohen -- State Department official, advisor to FDR.

  9. Rabbi Stephen Wise -- close pal of FDR, spokesman for the American Zionist movement, head of The American Jewish Congress.

  10. Frances Perkins -- Secretary of Labor; allegedly Jewish/adopted at birth; unconfirmed.

  11. Sidney Hillman -- presidential advisor.

  12. Anna Rosenberg -- longtime labor advisor to FDR, and manpower advisor with the Manpower Consulting Committee of the Army and Navy Munitions Board and the War Manpower Commission.

  13. Herbert H. Lehman -- Governor of New York, 1933-1942, Director of U.S. Office of Foreign Relief and Rehabilitation Operations, Department of State, 1942-1943; Director-General of UNRRA, 1944 - 1946, pal of FDR.

  14. Herbert Feis -- U.S. State Department official, economist, and an adviser on international economic affairs.

  15. R. S. Hecht -- financial advisor to FDR.

  16. Nathan Margold -- Department of the Interior Solicitor, legal advisor.

  17. Jesse I. Straus -- advisor to FDR.

  18. H. J. Laski -- "unofficial foreign advisor" to FDR.

  19. E. W. Goldenweiser -- Federal Reserve Director.

  20. Charles E. Wyzanski -- U.S. Labor department legal advisor.

  21. Samuel Untermyer -- lawyer, "unofficial public ownership advisor" to FDR.

  22. Jacob Viner -- Tax expert at the U.S. Treasury Department, assistant to the Treasury Secretary.

  23. Edward Filene -- businessman, philanthropist, unofficial presidential advisor.

  24. David Dubinsky -- Labor leader, president of International Ladies Garment Workers Union.

  25. William C. Bullitt -- part-Jewish, ambassador to USSR [is claimed to be Jonathan Horwitz's grandson; unconfirmed].

  26. Mordecai Ezekiel -- Agriculture Department economist.

  27. Abe Fortas -- Assistant director of Securities and Exchange Commission, Department of the Interior Undersecretary.

  28. Isador Lubin -- Commissioner of Labor Statistics, unofficial labor economist to FDR.

  29. Harry Dexter White [Weiss] -- Assistant Secretary of the Treasury; a key founder of the International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank; advisor, close pal of Henry Morgenthau. Co-wrote the Morgenthau Plan.

  30. Alexander Holtzoff -- Special assistant, U.S. Attorney General's Office until 1945; [presumed to be Jewish; unconfirmed].

  31. David Weintraub -- official in the Office of Foreign Relief and Rehabilitation Operations; helped create the United Nations; Secretary, Committee on Supplies, 1944-1946.

  32. Nathan Gregory Silvermaster -- Agriculture Department official and head of the Near East Division of the Board of Economic Warfare; helped create the United Nations.

  33. Harold Glasser -- Treasury Department director of the division of monetary research. Treasury spokesman on the affairs of United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration.

  34. Irving Kaplan -- U.S. Treasury Department official, pal of David Weintraub.

  35. Solomon Adler -- Treasury Department representative in China during World War II.

  36. Benjamin Cardozo -- U.S. Supreme Court Justice.

  37. Leo Wolman -- chairman of the National Recovery Administration's Labor Advisory Board; labor economist.

  38. Rose Schneiderman -- labor organizer; on the advisory board of the National Recovery Administration.

  39. Jerome Frank -- general counsel to the Agricultural Adjustment Administration, Justice, U.S. Court of Appeals, 1941-57.


edward gibbon

2003-04-16 22:19 | User Profile

George Patton to the rescue:> The way this humiliating thumping of the American army (at Kasserine)by the Germans was interpreted by Americans and British, then and now, has provoked interesting comment to this day.  British General Alexander, after arriving from Cairo at the height of the fighting and after American leaders blew it, took command of the battle.  After the battle was over, Alexander recommended the relief of Fredenall with the best American corps commander available.  At first Eisenhower offered this post to Mark Clark, who declined as he thought it would appear as a demotion from his job as a tentative Army commander, and then to George Patton who accepted.  As ever public appearances were very important to the American military.  To deflect anticipated criticism Major General Fredenall was promoted to Lieutenant General and sent home to the United States with a training command.  What Fredenall was going to instill in troops undergoing training in the United States was not made clear. **

Andy Rooney and Prussian Field Marshal have different views on Patton:> **When Americans reflect on war in Europe the man most often thought of is George Patton, and most regrettably this Patton has been George Scott's caricature in the motion picture of the same name.  Recent books purporting to be serious history of war have made reference to the movie rather than to the man.  Perhaps the most grievous assault on Patton was perpetrated by Andy Rooney, the odious troll of 60 Minutes, a highly rated news entertainment show. 

There was the Patton who was a serious student of international politics and warfare and had the best historical sense of any of the American high command.  There was also the Patton parading his patriotic sense of the duty of the citizenry to be a soldier and to be a good one: "The highest obligation and privilege of citizenship is that of bearing arms for one's country".  Perhaps, Mr. Rooney was upset with Patton's statement that "battle is much more exigent than football"  and believed otherwise.  Perhaps, the coarseness of Patton's observations on Sicilians offended Mr. Rooney.  Patton thought the Sicilian's life-style of spending most of their time sitting would have encouraged them to have developed comfortable seats over the millennia.  But no, the Sicilian would sit on mud, boxes, rocks or anything, but chairs.  The most sharply worded of his insights was noting the extreme good nature of the Sicilians and their contentment with their filth.  A cultural imperialist Patton thought it would be a mistake to raise them to American standards which "they would never appreciate or enjoy".  What should be borne in mind was that shortly after the end of the war there was a movement in Sicily to petition the United States Congress to be admitted as a state.

Above all was the accolade afforded George Patton by his foremost adversary, Field Marshal von Rundstedt.  After the war von Rundstedt told the British historian, Liddell Hart, that the two best battlefield commanders the Allies had were Patton and Montgomery.   One would like to think that the German military professional was a far superior judge of things military than the pouting pansy of American entertainment, Mr. Rooney.**

Patton Concerned on Sending Russian Prisoners to Death:> **After the war the United States in a highly developed moralistic and legalistic manner knowingly turned many of these men over to Soviet control and subsequent death.  George Patton was deeply concerned with the 100,000 White Russians who wanted to surrender to the Third Army as he was fully aware they probably faced death if turned over to the Red Army. **

Paul Fussell and Irish Remember Patton:> Fussell set for himself the almost impossible task of changing the recall of his war by  the sentimental, the loony patriotic, the ignorant, the bloodthirsty, and the Hollywood film.  While attempting to explain to William F. Buckley on his Firing Line, television interview show, Mr. Fussell first expressed how irked he was by his countrymen seeing World War II as a great source of virtue for their country and how he hoped grown-ups did not get their sense of history from movies. Then he had the audacity to reveal his contempt for the portrayal of George Patton by George C. Scott, and he stated he believed Scott's depiction about as much as he believed in Rambo saving the western world.  Mr. Buckley hesitatingly challenged Mr. Fussell by asking if General Patton really was not as Scott portrayed him.  Mr. Fussell revealed to Mr. Buckley that he heard Patton speak and found him to be a very different person than the one Scott depicted.  General Patton was a very small person with a very small head.  General Patton impressed Mr. Fussell as being a very likeable high school teacher and a much more complicated person than the one shown by the movie. * When the Allied victory was announced in Dublin, bitter street fights with police fighting rioters lasted for three days.  Initially the disturbances were confined to those who thought Ireland should have fought in the war and those who thought she should not have fought.  An Irish newspaper, the Sunday Independent, maintained government censors prevented publication of an article praising American General George Patton, but did permit the publishing of one praising Field Marshal Erwin Rommel.  When remembering fifty years of peace in Europe in 1995, the Irish Times ***confessed it was an act of rash courage to go out into the streets of Dublin showing any sympathy for the Allied victory.  The burning of the Union Jack outside Trinity College, the symbol of Protestant culture in Dublin, was remembered.  The visit of de Valera to the German Minister diminished the Irish claim to moral neutrality. **

Patton on Loyalty and Duty:> A question that arose was how Patton the Senior would have reacted to a poltroon like Quayle being thought qualified for national office.  One wondered if given an opportunity, the elder Patton might not have slapped the rich arrogant Quayle for being a pansy who waved the flag for others, but lacked courage himself.  The [color=blue]elder Patton wrote that loyalty was a two-way street, but in the World War II Army loyalty had become a one way street with loyalty being expected from the bottom upwards.  The much rarer quality of loyalty extending from the top downwards was much more needed for all good armies. [/color]  The general of World War II wrote of his belief that the highest obligation and privilege of the citizen was bearing arms for his country.  **

Blacks Do Not Like Patton:> Mayor Dinkins did not confine himself to the print media.  He had lent his august presence to Reverend Jesse Jackson's television program during which[color=red] the omniscient Mr. Jackson had claimed that during World War II General George Patton had placed black troops on the front line so they could be killed.  Mr. Dinkins said nothing to contradict Reverend Jackson.  Awkward facts that few blacks died in combat in Europe during World War II have never deterred Mr. Jackson[/color].

I must disagree with the assessment of the strength of the Red Army at the end of World War II. Their tank was far superior to what we had and they had far more of them. They would have pushed the Allies into the sea, methinks.


seq

2003-04-17 03:34 | User Profile

[img]http://www.pattonuncovered.com/assets/images/patton_frontpage.jpg[/img] "In case of doubt, attack."

The Official Story:

Patton died December 21, 1945 in a Heidelberg hospital after being critically injured in a three-vehicle accident in which he was the only person hurt.

If an examination were to be conducted of all the relevant facts of the campaign to discredit General Patton, it would require in the process a re-examination of the role of Eisenhower and his military and political decisions that benefited the Soviets.

British writer George Orwell maintained that throughout World War II there existed in the Allied press a "self censorship" on stories that cast the Soviets in a negative light.

[url=http://www.pattonhq.com/textfiles/press.html]http://www.pattonhq.com/textfiles/press.html[/url]


na Gaeil is gile

2003-04-17 09:16 | User Profile

**The visit of de Valera to the German Minister diminished the Irish claim to moral neutrality. **

How could this act possibly diminish 'the Irish claim to moral neutrality'? De Valera would have made the same gesture had that sot Churchill drunk himself to death in some London bunker (assuming Eire was not part of the Third Reich at that point).

Courtesy of [url=http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v08/v08p509_Klett.html]Institute for Historical Review[/url]:

"The correctness of the Taoiseach's action when the death of the head of the German State was reported has been vindicated by Commander MacDermott. But his letter does not cover the whole story. In 1943 the allies called upon the neutrals to deny asylum to Axis refugees, described for the occasion as war criminals. Portugal refused. The rest took it lying down, except Mr. de Valera. He replied that Eire reserved the right to give asylum when justice, charity, or the honor or interest of the nation required it. That is what all the neutrals ought to have said; and Miss Hinkson, as an Irishwoman, will, on second thoughts, be as proud of it as I am. The voice of the Irish gentleman and Spanish grandee was a welcome relief from the chorus of retaliatory rancor and self- righteousness then deafening us.

I have not always agreed with the Taoiseach's policy. Before the ink was dry on the treaty which established the Irish Free State I said that if England went to war she would have to reoccupy Ireland militarily, and fortify her ports. When this forecast came to the proof the Taoiseach nailed his colors to the top gallant, declaring that with his little army of 50,000 Irishmen he would fight any and every invader, even if England, Germany, and the United States attacked him simultaneously from all quarters, which then seemed a possible result of his attitude. And he got away with it triumphantly, saved, as Mr. Churchill has just pointed out. by the abhorred partition which gave the allies a foothold on Ireland. and by the folly of the Führer in making for Moscow instead of for Galway.

Later on I hazarded the conjecture that Adolf Hitler would end in the Dublin Viceregal Lodge, like Louis Napoleon in Chislehurst and the Kaiser in Doorn. If the report of the Führer's death proves unfounded this is still a possibility.

It all sounds like an act from Victor Hugo's Hernani, rather than a page of modern world-war history; but Eamon de Valera comes out of it as a champion of the Christian chivalry we are all pretending to admire. Let us recognize a noble heart even if we must sometimes question its worldly wisdom.

Faithfully,

May 15. G. Bernard Shaw."


edward gibbon

2003-04-17 18:54 | User Profile

A little background on the almighty Dev:> One of the survivors of the 1916 Irish uprising against the British was New York born Edward de Valera. Tenuous claim to American citizenship saved de Valera from execution after his arrest.  [color=blue]Born in New York in 1882 of a Spanish father and an Irish mother, young de Valera was sent to live in Ireland after his father died.  Once there he adopted the Gaelic Eamon to replace Edward.  A cynic might question his mother's motives in sending the boy back.  After remarrying, she never had her son sent back.  She was to die in the United States in 1932.  Was this unkindness and abandonment by his mother the root of de Valera's attitude toward the United States?  The confusion of not having love within the family and the substitution of teary-eyed love of country, meaning Ireland, has passed through Irish-American families for generations.  [/color]

In late January of 1942 American troops landed in Northern Ireland.  Coming so soon after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, this was not an unexpected development.  de Valera blasted the American action as meaning recognition of the "Quisling government" in Belfast and support for partition.  The needs of the United States were of no, or very small, consideration to de Valera.  Yet, the opening of the sea lanes by American and British naval forces insured Ireland’s survival.  ([color=red]Despite fervent searching no marriage license has been found for de Valera’s father and mother.)[/color]

Not surprisingly some Irish-Americans continued to place concerns for Ireland above those for the United States.  Writing in the Boston Sunday Globe of March 1, 1942, Joseph A. Conry, former member of the House of Representatives, reviewed his efforts to drum up support for the war.  In the Globe in February of 1941 Mr. Conry had advocated annexation of Ireland by the United States as a protective act.  This projected benevolence was not well received, but rejection did not deter[color=blue] Mr. Conry as he wanted independent Eire under de Valera to furnish three ports for use by American forces.[/color]  Making an obligatory reference to de Valera as a "great, big-hearted man", Mr. Conry opined de Valera's love for a united Ireland had clouded his judgment to the importance of the war.**

Defense of Ireland:> **Mr. Conry noted that de Valera had no hesitation in taking part in American domestic politics when it suited his purposes.  When General Frank Aiken came to the United States in April 1941, he boldly stated his purpose was to get armaments from the American people through their government to defend Ireland.  Mr. Aiken (as he was then known) later was accused of Nazi sympathies as Minister in charge of censorship in 1945 by a deputy in the Irish parliament, but was defended by de Valera. **

Irish Amusement During the War Years: > Even today the average American has had little understanding of the highly complex relations between Eire and England.  For entertainment during the war years the Irish could listen to Lord Haw-Haw, or William Joyce from County Galway, broadcasting from Berlin.  The Irish enjoyed sarcasm including Joyce's remark that the Irish Army could not beat the tinkers out of Galway.  When war ended and the British got their hands on Joyce, his accident of American birth, unlike that of de Valera, was not sufficient to save him.  The British hanged Joyce.

GBS at his most sarcastic:> **I have not always agreed with the Taoiseach's policy. Before the ink was dry on the treaty which established the Irish Free State I said that if England went to war she would have to reoccupy Ireland militarily, and fortify her ports. When this forecast came to the proof the Taoiseach nailed his colors to the top gallant, declaring that with his little army of 50,000 Irishmen he would fight any and every invader, even if England, Germany, and the United States attacked him simultaneously from all quarters, which then seemed a possible result of his attitude. And he got away with it triumphantly, saved, as Mr. Churchill has just pointed out. by the abhorred partition which gave the allies a foothold on Ireland. and by the folly of the Führer in making for Moscow instead of for Galway.

Later on I hazarded the conjecture that Adolf Hitler would end in the Dublin Viceregal Lodge, like Louis Napoleon in Chislehurst and the Kaiser in Doorn. If the report of the Führer's death proves unfounded this is still a possibility.

It all sounds like an act from Victor Hugo's Hernani, rather than a page of modern world-war history; but Eamon de Valera comes out of it as a champion of the Christian chivalry we are all pretending to admire. Let us recognize a noble heart even if we must sometimes question its worldly wisdom.

Faithfully,

May 15. G. Bernard Shaw." **

The great Irish army would have melted away. I cannot prove, but believe it is quite possible that the Irish volunteered and died for England at a rate greater than Americans, volunteers or drafted, did for the United States.

Winston Churchill remembered the treacherous Taoiseach:> ** On May 13, 1945 Winston Churchill speaking in celebration of the wartime victory chose to denounce one man, Eamon de Valera.  After acknowledging with gratitude the contribution of the southern Irish in blood and courage to the British victory, Churchill bitterly remembered the travail of 1941 when supplies of food and war material were endangered by U-boats and German surface raiders.  Airfields in the south of Ireland would have made the job of protecting the shipping much easier and much safer.  If not for the friendship of the north of Ireland, the British would have been forced to close quarters with the government of de Valera or perish from the earth.

Three days later de Valera answered over radio.  Using statesmanlike restraint, de Valera stated he knew the answer which would first come to every man of Irish blood all over the world to the speech of Winston.  He knew the reply he would have given a quarter of a century ago.  Manfully, he refused to stoke the fires of hatred.  Rather he rehashed what he said were many centuries of abuse Ireland took from England and which justified Irish noninvolvement.  Towards the end he thanked a providential God for sparing Ireland the destruction of the war just ended.  Then he pledged that Ireland, as much as could reasonably be expected from a small nation, would help other countries rebuild.

This attitude by the Taoiseach was not without support in the United States.  On Memorial Day of 1945, just three weeks and a day after the war in Europe ended, the Kings County Board of the Ancient Order of Hibernians announced the resolution it had adopted at the Knights of Columbus Institute in Brooklyn.  This resolution upheld the neutrality of Eire during the war:  "This neutral position saved the lives of men, women and children of the Irish nation".  Further affirmed was that "neutrality had been maintained by virtue of the great courage, intelligence and sincere Christian desire for peace of the Irish people".   Almost fifty years later that the hyphenated Irish of America would condone the treacherous neutrality of the government of the old country while not remembering the dead of America still rankles.  One may wonder how many more Americans would have lived if Ireland had been more cooperative.  On June 29, 1945 Eire celebrated an official thanksgiving day for having been spared the horrors of war.  The day, a Catholic holiday in honor of Saints Peter and Paul, was suggested by the Irish Roman Catholic church hierarchy.  Factories, stores and offices closed after the proclamation of thanksgiving day by Prime Minister de Valera.

**

I understand, but do not condone, emotional defenses of Ireland and their people. They are capable of some nasty behavior and damn the consequences.


Roger Bannister

2003-04-17 20:38 | User Profile

Edward, it's Eamon de Velara, not Edward. Small mistake, but whoever wrote the brief bio should have been more careful. Makes one wonder about the other facts presented.

While the Irish do get emotional and sometimes funny - but not funny - in their defense or loyalty to Ireland or their background, most consider themselves Americans first. Take a look at the record of those of Irish background in the US armed forces, and you can see they dominate in terms of medals for bravery and distinction, so that would indicate some type of loyalty to this land. I don't understand the wild eyed defense or feeling some Americans of Irish background have for the old sod - I'm mostly Irish myself - 1/4 Italian, so it's an internal battle, right? - but they are really no more guilty of nasty behavior than most other W. European groups. The real wild eyed fanatics, the haters, the ones that have loyalty only to a foreign land in which they do not live are jews and the non-white immigrants now smothering this country, courtesy of the jews. Those are the people we need to be concerned with. We all know about jewish dual loyalty, which they don't really have, they have one loyalty, to themselves. Most mestizos are loyal to Mexico, Guatamala, El Salvador, wherever they are from. Visit Los Angeles and look at the flags and bumper stickers and clothing. Many Asian immigrants are also fiercely loyal to their "homelands", while sucking up all the money they can through business and enjoying the racial spoils system. The last thing we need is for whites to start fighting amongst each other like the English vs The Irish, The Irish vs The Italians, The Italians vs The Germans. Any problems that existed or exist between any of these groups - that no doubt resulted in the riots in Ireland after the Allied victory, mentioned earlier - should be the least of our concerns. If you run into some wild eyed son of Ireland, Italy or wherever during political discourse, remind him where he is. Steer him in the right direction, because the torpedo has already struck the ship, and making repairs is an emergency operation.

Patton was murdered for telling the truth. For seeing the truth.

Also, stories about de Valera being a "bastard" have been rampant in Ireland for years. He was a bastard in more ways than one, that's for sure.


edward gibbon

2003-04-17 20:43 | User Profile

Roger Bannister: I did write the following at the top of the entry. I suspect you were too busy to see it.

A little background on the almighty Dev:QUOTE  One of the survivors of the 1916 Irish uprising against the British was New York born Edward de Valera. Tenuous claim to American citizenship saved de Valera from execution after his arrest.  Born in New York in 1882 of a Spanish father and an Irish mother, young de Valera was sent to live in Ireland after his father died.  [color=red]Once there he adopted the Gaelic Eamon to replace Edward**[/color].  A cynic might question his mother's motives in sending the boy back.  After remarrying, she never had her son sent back.  She was to die in the United States in 1932.  Was this unkindness and abandonment by his mother the root of de Valera's attitude toward the United States?  The confusion of not having love within the family and the substitution of teary-eyed love of country, meaning Ireland, has passed through Irish-American families for generations.  **

I did write the above paragraph and did do some research.


Roger Bannister

2003-04-17 20:47 | User Profile

Yeah, flew right by it - I also thought you had pulled the info from another post. By the way, his father was claimed to be Spanish, but in reality he was most likely Cuban.


na Gaeil is gile

2003-04-18 13:57 | User Profile

Thank you for your response Edward but, erudite as it may be, it does not address my question: how did the visit of De Valera to the German Minister diminish the Irish claim to moral neutrality? If anything the favouritism shown to the allied side diminished this claim; not some petty formality on the death of Herr Hitler.

Your statements on the "treacherous neutrality of the government" and "treacherous Taoiseach" brought a smile to my face, I have a certain affection for the bizarre. You appear to hold a worldview where the adoption of a neutral stance by one sovereign nation towards another sovereign nation can be classified as 'treason'. The only treason De Valera committed was when he and his deputies walked out of the first Dail and fermented the civil war.


edward gibbon

2003-04-19 17:44 | User Profile

na Gaeil is gile

Your statements on the "treacherous neutrality of the government" and "treacherous Taoiseach" [color=red]brought a smile to my face[/color], I have a certain affection for the bizarre. You appear to hold a worldview where the adoption of a neutral stance by one sovereign nation towards another sovereign nation can be classified as 'treason'. The only treason De Valera committed was when he and his deputies walked out of the first Dail and fermented the civil war.

When the lives of Americans are at stake, I do hold to a rather simple view. Those not with us are at best neutral in favor of the enemy. Dev's Ireland's food supply was insured by allied control of the seas. In other posts I postulated that the Irish may have volunteered and died for the "hated" British at a rate higher than Americans did for the United States.

The British had five (5) carriers at the Battle of Okinawa. Four of them were hit by kamikazes. What was the Irish navy doing? Practicing life-saving and landing techniques in Galway Bay?