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2003-04-15 13:32 | User Profile

**Subversion Salsa With Your Freedom Fries?

By Allan Wall

There is much going on in Mexico regarding the Iraq war, almost all of it ignored in the U.S. media. An update for VDARE.COM readers: THE CANNON FODDER ARGUMENT

The Mexican media has presented the U.S. prosecution of the Iraq war in the worst light possible, continually impugning U.S. motives and military practice.

A favorite theme: the cannon fodder argument – that the U.S. is utilizing Mexicans to fight in Iraq.

This perception is reinforced in several ways. When Mexican journalists visit U.S. military camps and vessels, they seek out Spanish-speaking service members to interview. And the Mexican media publicizes (and keeps a running count of) all Mexican-origin soldiers who die in the war.

Then there’s TV Azteca’s Ramon Fregoso, a white Mexican journalist who is serving as anchor man while the regular anchor, Javier Alatorre, broadcasts from the Middle East.

Fregoso recently informed his audience that the U.S. military was still recruiting new soldiers – and guess who recruitment efforts are directed at? Viewers were then treated to a replay of a U.S. Army recruiting commercial - in Spanish. When the commercial ended, Fregoso smugly commented: “Van por los mexicanos” – “They go for the Mexicans.”

Ironically, the Mexican elite constantly celebrates the growing prominence of Spanish in the U.S., correctly seeing it as a conquest. They constantly demand that the U.S. provide education and other services in Spanish. Then they complain about recruiting commercials in Spanish!

The following night, Fregoso recounted the plight of Mexican soldiers in the U.S: military who are not citizens of the U.S. They can’t even vote in the U.S., Fregoso told viewers, but they are fighting. His implication was that it was a great injustice.

Of course, every single member of the U.S. military, citizen or legal resident, is there because they voluntarily enlisted.

Mexico’s elite wants to export their poor and have Americans provide them with all sorts of government benefits. But if these immigrants voluntarily join the military, they are derided. DIRECT NEGOTIATION WITH BAGHDAD OVER DUAL CITIZENS?

Opponents of dual citizenship sometimes pose this question – “What would you do if the U.S. and Mexico went to war with each other?” The Iraq war demonstrates that it’s not even necessary to posit this extreme. If the U.S. goes to war with any country, dual U.S.-Mexican citizenship is part of the equation.

In a previous VDARE.COM article, I reported how the Fox administration was compiling a list of all Mexican and Mexican-descended personnel in the U.S. military, regardless of citizenship.

Only three days later, Mexican Foreign Secretary Derbez made the rather startling announcement that Mexico was considering direct negotiations with the Saddam regime over U.S. soldiers who are dual citizens of the U.S. and Mexico!

According to “Reforma” (Analizan defender a soldados mexicans, March 31st, 2003)

“The legal department of the SRE [Mexican Foreign Ministry] is analyzing the viability of Mexico’s intercession before the government of Iraq for Mexican soldiers imprisoned in that country.”

(El departamento Jurídico de la Secretaria de Relaciones Exteriores analiza la viabilidad de que México interceda ante el Gobierno de Iraq por los soldados mexicanos presos en ese Pais.)

“Chancellor Luis Ernesto Derbez said...that the department is studying the possibility of an appeal to the Geneva Convention concerning prisoners of war in the case of soldiers who have the two citizenships (U.S. and Mexican) and of military personnel who have Mexican citizenship and U.S. residence....”

(El canciller Luis Ernesto Derbez dijo la tarde de este lunes que la dependencia a su cargo estudia si es posible apela a la Convención de Ginebra sobre presos de guerra en el caso de los soldados que tengan las dos ciudadanías, así como de los militares que cuentan con la ciudadanía mexicana y la residencia estadounidense y con bases en el Ejército de Estados Unidos.)

“....Derbez emphasized that México will make it clear, that if the petition is carried out, that it will be done without being part of the military conflict.”

(En conference, Derbez destacó que México dejará en clare, si llega a realizar la petición, que lo hace sin ser parte del conflicto militar.)

So the Mexican government was willing to negotiate with Saddam over dual citizen prisoners-of-war - but it had to make clear it wasn’t supporting the United States!

Now that Baghdad has been taken, the Mexicans have to give up negotiating with the regime. But we know they were working on it. Which is one possible use of that census of Mexican-origin U.S. soldiers I wrote about earlier.

And demonstrates the inevitable complications of dual citizenship. PROCLAIMING PACIFIST PRINCIPLES, HUSTLING GRINGO CA$H 

On April 2nd, 2003, Vicente Fox met with visiting Mexican residents of the U.S., and self-righteously slammed the U.S. war effort, emphatically declaring that “¡estamos contra la guerra!” – “We are against the war!” (Proceso, April 2nd, 2003)

The same day a Mexican tourism convention in Acapulco was addressed (in a pre-recorded video) by the Mexican president. Fox told them that the war was an opportunity for Mexican tourism! (His reasoning: Americans would want to travel to safer and nearer destinations).

(“Puede guerra ser fuente de oportunidades para turism en Mexico: Fox,” El Universal, April 2nd, 2003  INTERESTING POLLING DATA

According to polls taken in early April, 75% of Hispanics born in the U.S. support the war - but 52% of Hispanics residing in the U.S. but born abroad reject it. Furthermore, 86% of Hispanics who watch English-language news media thought the war’s progress was going well. But 59% of those who watch Spanish-language TV thought it wasn’t.

(“Divide a latinos de EU tema de la guerra en Irak,” El Universal, April 8th, 2003,) FOX, BUSH, AND THE BIG PICTURE

How will Fox’s rejection of the Iraq war affect U.S.-Mexican relations and the exaggerated “relationship” Bush apparently thought he had with Fox?

Bush is said to value personal loyalty. Will he understand that Fox does not feel (and never has felt) the same about Bush as Bush feels about him? 

Yes, it’s a sad story of unrequited love.

Since the Iraq war has begun, Fox and Bush have only spoken once by phone. And Bush uncharacteristically took 4 days to return the call!

Now that Baghdad is taken, it appears Fox is attempting to repair fences. Last week, Fox stated his confidence that “once the armed conflict is concluded, the bilateral relationship can be reconstructed.”

(“Reconoce Fox decepción de EU hacia México”, Universal, April 9th, 2003)

Fox is here referring to Mexico’s distinction between its bilateral relationship with the U.S., and its multilateral relationship centered on the UN (and Mexico now heads the UN Security Council). The Mexican government view is that its multilateral UN-type diplomacy won’t effect its bilateral relationship with the U.S.

Translation: Mexico expects the U.S. to open its border with Mexico. But don’t expect Mexico to back the U.S. at the UN or any other international forum. That would be too embarrassing!

Will the U.S. and Mexico get back to business as usual – the systematic deconstruction of U.S. sovereignty in favor of a Mexican veto over U.S. immigration policy?

Or does George W. Bush, having been burned by his “amigo,” now have a more realistic view?

American citizen Allan Wall lives and works legally in Mexico, where he holds an FM-2 residency and work permit, but serves six weeks a year with the Texas Army National Guard, in a unit composed almost entirely of Americans of Mexican ancestry.  His VDARE.COM articles are archived here; his FRONTPAGEMAG.COM articles are archived here; his website is here. Readers can contact Allan Wall at allan39@prodigy.net.mx.

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Recluse

2003-04-15 14:46 | User Profile

For those with DIRECTTV, Newsworld International (channel 366 on my system) has a program called News Television Russia-OTI/Mexico-TV weekdays at 5:30 pm Central that has a translated segment from a Mexican news show that's viciously anti-American. That drooling moron in the White House has said that family values don't end at the border. I'll bet this hatred for the gringo doesn't either.

Okiereddust

2003-04-15 16:12 | User Profile

Originally posted by Recluse@Apr 15 2003, 14:46 ** That drooling moron in the White House has said that family values don't end at the border. I'll bet this hatred for the gringo doesn't either. **

Yup, only one solution - abolish the border (and the gringo).

Course dubbya doesn't quite realize that means him too.

il ragno

2003-04-15 23:47 | User Profile

**When Mexican journalists visit U.S. military camps and vessels, they seek out Spanish-speaking service members to interview. **

Tell the truth, Wall. When ANY journalist visits the troops they seek out the brown and the black and yellow (and whenever possible, female) faces EXCLUSIVELY. To watch coverage of Operation Get The Oil is to fall down Lewis Carroll's rabbit-hole to Diversity Wonderland...if you define 'diversity' as 5 nonwhites 'celebrated' for every paleface grudgingly acknowledged.

Is it me....am I nuts....or do you guys see what I'm seeing? Black brass, women co's, mestizo dogfaces (well they got that part right, at least), Hindu radiomen, and Samoan-widebody demolition teams. By this point, if you see a CNN interview with a GI named "Smitty", guaranteed she's gonna be a chink!

Cool, huh? I knew America was an idea built on a promise based on a dream inspired by a notion - but this is ridiculous! Oh,well...at least we already know what sorts of jerry-rigged postwar "news stories" await us: the 'racism' of a country that will ask its subhumans to fight its wars, but won't hand them the keys to the liquor cabinet and the cash register when it's over.

Post-American history. It writes itself!

weisbrot

2003-04-16 01:07 | User Profile

Originally posted by il ragno@Apr 15 2003, 19:47 ** When ANY journalist visits the troops they seek out the brown and the black and yellow (and whenever possible, female) faces EXCLUSIVELY. To watch coverage of Operation Get The Oil is to fall down Lewis Carroll's rabbit-hole to Diversity Wonderland...if you define 'diversity' as 5 nonwhites 'celebrated' for every paleface grudgingly acknowledged.

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Bravo. Save, paste, send.

Roger Bannister

2003-04-16 05:17 | User Profile

Originally posted by il ragno@Apr 15 2003, 17:47 ** > **When Mexican journalists visit U.S. military camps and vessels, they seek out Spanish-speaking service members to interview. **

Tell the truth, Wall. When ANY journalist visits the troops they seek out the brown and the black and yellow (and whenever possible, female) faces EXCLUSIVELY. **

Hey Il Ragno, although I was working in sports, I remember the standing orders in the newsroom during the first Gulf "War". You are correct that all reporters seek out the minority soldiers. Many a time we would chuckle at the feed that showed our reporters in Kuwait setting up the scene ahead of time, making sure we had the blacks right up front, with a sprinkling of browns. Right now, the push is on to show the browns. With our combat troops at 90% white, the informed should be able to see what a tool of the elite the "news" really is. It was similar to sports, in which the field reporters are told to seek out the black athletes, and maybe talk to a white athlete if you had to. Some of my most vivid memories are of the remarks made about the "ugly, pasty white" Boston Celtics (Bird, McHale, Ainge, Walton) winning NBA titles back in the 1980's. At the time, I was slowly becoming aware of the jewish problem, and noticed it was the jews always leading the insults, and the sychophants looking to advance always jumped in. Not that it helped, because if you weren't female, jewish or "colored" you didn't go anywhere. There was the occasional son of the white elite that moved up to, but that was when it was advantageous to chosen.

We now see the same in the presentation of our military, and in promotions in the military.

The story about the Iraquis being confused by the racial diversity of our troops was probably propaganda, since the front line troops are still 90% white.

N.B. Forrest

2003-04-16 07:54 | User Profile

My personal "favorite" was that hip-hoppin' wetback dwarf standing on a tank, teaching the raglets to git jiggy wid it.

One of Sumner's Boyz, yo.

It's the same sick joke whenever a president gives a speech with Everyday Americans standing behind him: lotsa beaming nigras, wetbacks, brownies of various hue - and even an occasional White devil.