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Thread ID: 5876 | Posts: 24 | Started: 2003-03-29
2003-03-29 21:01 | User Profile
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An external affairs ministry spokesman in Delhi said the IT professionals were interrogated by the Dutch authorities and then asked to leave the Netherlands despite having valid visas.
The spokesman, Navtej Sarna, said the treatment given to Indian software workers was grossly unfortunate, objectionable and patently unwarranted.
He said the Indian government has expressed its disapproval to the Dutch ambassador in Delhi.
Nearly 15 software professionals, working for an Indian company - I-Flex Solutions - were questioned in Amsterdam on Thursday.
The company said it was not aware of the exact extent of investigations, but that they understood they were questioned over visa-related matters.
Complaints
The employees were later told by the Dutch authorities to leave the country within a week.
Around 270 Indians were earlier arrested in Malaysia The company said the Chief Executive Officer of its Netherlands subsidiary, Senthil Kumar, was also arrested by the police in London, apparently following a complaint by the Dutch government.
The Indian spokesman said Mr Kumar remained in custody on Friday.
He added that the Indian Government has lodged a protest with the Foreign and Commonwealth Office in London.
Mr Sarna said Mr Kumar has been denied consular access which, he said, was a violation of international law.
I-Flex is among India's top 20 software exporters with a turnover of more than 100 million dollars.
In the Netherlands, the company is mainly in the business of providing software solutions for banking.
Indonesian detention
The detention of I-Flex employees was the third incident involving Indian IT workers abroad since December last year.
The chief executive officer of another IT company - Polaris - was detained by the Indonesian police last year.
He was released following the intervention of the Indian information technology minister.
Earlier this month, 270 Indian IT professionals were detained in Malaysia.
The Malaysian government later apologised and ordered a probe into the incident.
A leading IT body in India, Nasscom (National Association of Software and Service Companies), has expressed concern over such incidents.
Nasscom said it plans to closely work with the IT industry and embassies of various countries to ensure greater understanding of visa-related issues.
2003-03-31 17:24 | User Profile
rbanowitz, have you commented on the Eastern Europeans being at the top of a recent programming contest, with cow-dung worshippers and zhids being nowhere near?
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Hindus are only good as slave labor in bodyshops and lack the superior intellect and problem-solving abilities of the Slavs :lol:
2003-03-31 21:28 | User Profile
While further info is required, it's probably safe to say that it's likely Indian programmers were found writing "back doors" into code, so that they could ... take advantage, so to speak, at a later date, if they so choose.
This has happened in the US, with foreign programmers (Israelis, Indians, Taiwanese, etc.). But, further info is needed.
A good start, I would say though. A good start.
2003-04-01 01:17 | User Profile
**Are your hairy legged Slavic sister going to be turning less tricks in Shanghai for the slants because of this development?
. . .He knows that Germans and Americans, in both WW2 and today, preferred Hindus over his breed, and this drives him nuts, since it dashes his theory of Russians being 'true whites' as opposed to the half-ngger scum that they really are.*
NEKULTURNI.
. . . we despise your people and prefer Hindus over you. I am pure AngloSaxon and would pick a Hindu over you any day.
Iââ¬â¢ve already tendered my diagnosis on the likely affliction tormenting rban, on the miniscule chance that he is in fact an Englishman, so I need not repeat here. But there is another possibility that would explain this unbridled appropriation of (Indian) personality and welfare. It could be a coping issue over a siblingââ¬â¢s marriage, or his own, to a Hindu. This would account for the persistence and the passion, far in excess of what one would expect in the course of a regular prank. If it is indeed a question of coping with ill-considered union, perhaps rban would profit from correspondence with someone who could relate and advise him on where best to channel his frustration, someone like Avalanche. Surely OD members do not deserve to bear the verbal brunt of a mania whose genesis lies elsewhere. :(
2003-04-01 03:01 | User Profile
MR-
I think Jban is more verklempt over the fact that Univ. of Ark., Iowa, and Minn. beat out any showings from the brilliant, gifted Shittystanis.
Congrats to the Poles and Russ. If we shut down H1-B, maybe supply and demand can encourage more American kids to consider a career in IT outside of DeVry.
2003-04-01 05:10 | User Profile
Originally posted by Campion Moore Boru@Mar 31 2003, 20:01 ** MR-
I think Jban is more verklempt over the fact that Univ. of Ark., Iowa, and Minn. beat out any showings from the brilliant, gifted Shittystanis.
Congrats to the Poles and Russ. If we shut down H1-B, maybe supply and demand can encourage more American kids to consider a career in IT outside of DeVry. **
This competition clearly proves that what you pay is what you get, and in the case of hindu and zhids, you don't even get that :lol:
American companies are full of dull-witted but always positioning and politicking Gypsy-like hindus, and to the lesser degree zhids, who are only impeding progress and the more there are of them the more of them are needed in a vicious cycle of silliness and loss of productivity.
2003-04-01 05:45 | User Profile
rbanowitz,
there is nothing unreal about this competition and it's demonstrating the ranking of engineers and problem-solvers among college students, which is confirmed by real-life observations of quality of engineers. The same Russian or Polish students if placed in America would have accomplished a zillion times more than a bunch of unimaginative and idea-stealing rbanowitz's and patel's and various other third-worlders.
As for what have come out of the Eastern block -- a lot, especially considering with how little resources andin what economic system it was achieved. Now don't tell me you are so illeterate as not to know the achievements of Eastern Europeans :o
2003-04-01 08:15 | User Profile
Originally posted by Sisyfos@Apr 1 2003, 01:17 ** > **Are your hairy legged Slavic sister going to be turning less tricks in Shanghai for the slants because of this development?
. . .He knows that Germans and Americans, in both WW2 and today, preferred Hindus over his breed, and this drives him nuts, since it dashes his theory of Russians being 'true whites' as opposed to the half-ngger scum that they really are.*
NEKULTURNI.
. . . we despise your people and prefer Hindus over you. I am pure AngloSaxon and would pick a Hindu over you any day.
Iââ¬â¢ve already tendered my diagnosis on the likely affliction tormenting rban, on the miniscule chance that he is in fact an Englishman, so I need not repeat here. But there is another possibility that would explain this unbridled appropriation of (Indian) personality and welfare. It could be a coping issue over a siblingââ¬â¢s marriage, or his own, to a Hindu. **
I don't buy it for a minute. I work with a BUNCH of guys from UK... they know yard help when they see it!!
2003-04-01 15:11 | User Profile
Originally posted by rban@Apr 1 2003, 06:50 ** native countries such useless rat-holes? **
rbanowitz, you don't want to talk about rat-holes on the same threads where zhids and hindus are discussed. Rat-holes don't produced superior species, as this competition clearly proves. You are just envious of the talent your tribe and your hindu slaves have never had :lol:
2003-04-01 16:22 | User Profile
rbanowitz, America has been built up by gentile whites, no credit to hindus (cheap and low-quality workers, thiefs of ideas) and zhids (parasites, thiefs of ideas). What happens when you have those parasitic species without any to parasitize upon can be seen in rat-hole countries, like India. When you import hindus you get dot.com bust and lowering of productivity and efficiency standards across the board.
2003-04-01 18:07 | User Profile
Lest we forget, Hindus have contributed nothing to computer science.
I'd say this is a good start, but we shouldn't forget the larger goal: booting these filthy Hindu code monkeys out of every Western nation, including America.
2003-04-01 20:31 | User Profile
rbanowitz, Americans aren't dumb like you insist, it's rbanowitzes and patels who are, according to the results of the competition. Turning a profession into a lower-paying occupation with unimaginative lazy cheating stealing workers from third-world (hindus and zhids) isnt' something a first-world country needs. In that, hindus play the same role as Mexicans, and as close to them in terms of intellect, higiene and culture. No, scratch that, Mexicans don't collect cow dung.
2003-04-01 22:04 | User Profile
Originally posted by rban@Apr 1 2003, 20:03 ** Well, Valley Forge, don't get your hopes up. Latest news indicates the Dutch are going to grovel and bend over, like the filthy Malaysian slants have already done. Don't forget also that our economy will collapse in its entirety without the Hindus.
And MAdruss, you still haven't responded to my innocent inquiry about why Poles and your tribe with their stupendous level of genius have not overtaken the USA in IT. They ought to, by your logic. After all, we backward & stupid Americans are stuck with Jews and Hindus, while your tribal nations are over flowing with Nature's bounty in the form of superior Slavs. So what gives, MR? When may I expect to open up my Wall Street Journal and read about the mind-boggling achievements of Slavo-Soft and Ivan Consulting? And when can my firm employ the services of Wesolkowsky Consultants, world class purveyors of ....??? **
The reason we don't have Poles, etc. in droves in the American 'sector' of IT is due to the immigration policy of this country. Immigration Policy put in place by the jews; The Immigration Act of 1965. The brutal reality is that only about 10% of our legal immigration is white. Admittedly, whites will cost companies more as employees, as they do not come from the squalor filled streets of Bombay, New Delhi, Shanghai, etc.. Whites are used to living at a certain civilized level that third world nations can't seem to develop, no matter how many IT braceros they send to the US, or how much white American tax money is sent their way in the form of "aid". I suspect rban knows this ... but his hatred of E. Europeans (how jewish, eh?) seems to know no bounds.
Companies also get various tax breaks for hiring non-whites (Work Opportunity Tax Credits, etc.). The various programs and breaks companies get are in fact defined by race, as certain breaks are given to companies indulging in the Khyber Pass Syndrome as it's called, while others get breaks for piling high with mestizos, or hauling in the E. Asians by the bucket load. So ... it's partly greed, partly policy, and it's all going to fall apart down the line. We'll have our collapse in this country, and the Indians will probably have to focus their attention on China, which will make its move on Taiwan, etc. when we have our fall, as China wants more power in Asia, and has no love for India.
2003-04-02 01:08 | User Profile
rbanowitz's question should be when hindustanis and shittistanis in their respective rat-holes are going to crash American IT, because the comparison was between the creativity of whites, both or Western and Eastern heritage, vs that of hindushittistanis.
Stay on topic, rbanistanian.
2003-04-02 02:41 | User Profile
Maybe if Americans were forced to subsidize India, the way we subsidize all things Shittystani, they could code a competitor to SNAFU.
But why is India always dredged up as a smokescreen? A country that has never made a blip in World History save for the profits Brits made off plants and spices native to the territory.
Everyone knows where Jban's heart lies.
2003-04-02 03:51 | User Profile
The Indians in IT in the US, for the most part, do the "grunt" work, something we've been over before. It's cheaper to have a few whites go over the work of the braceros and fix code, look for backdoors, etc., than it is to pay competent whites. But, either you pay now, or you pay later ... and their will be a price to pay later. We're already seeing the results of "foreign imports" in our space program and in military (equipment) foul ups. For the number of Indians that are here in the US, the level of inventive, creative Indians is very, very small. The jews rban writes about, for the most part, own companies. Some they started, but USUALLY it's a company that they bought, that was doing well before they stepped in, buying off yet another smiling goy who couldn't wait to take his money and run. You can count the number of jewish engineers on your hands, and while there are some jews involved in programming, their numbers are negligible. Considering all the press the jews give themselves when discussing their supposedly vaunted intellectual skills, their presence in IT as a creative, inventive force is small, and their overall presence not the same as it is in, say medicine, where they make up 10% of physicians. (Bet you thought they made up a higher percentage of MD's, eh? Shows what a lot of press, and heavy presence in urban areas can do to generate myth)
Now ... Eastern Europe is hamstrung by years of jewish/bolshevist rule, continuing jewish meddling in the affairs of these countries. More specifically, the jews use their "influence" (oh those wacky white politicians/government officials, so easy to buy off) to retard the development of these countries, in all possible manner. Something we all know anyway - as the destruction of the US is well underway, and Britain has been turned into a shite-hole with rampant Caribbean, African and Indian immigration.
The proof is in the pudding - as the coding competition listed by Madrussian showed the Indians to be pikers, as do the Math and Physics Olympics. The whites and slavs dominate, the Chinese do well indeed ... but the smokescreen Indians don't keep up ... despite a massive population edge.
Now, this isn't to denigrate Indians or other third worlders. Their homelands speak for themselves. The fact is, we have an artificial situation here in the US - set up by anti-white immigration policies, and greedy corporate attitudes. No one is thinking too far ahead ... a trait that has been demonstrated over and over by the jews, and now inculcated into their lackeys. Whether it's Kary Mullis today, Tesla yesterday, the list of whites from the US and all over Europe that have had massive, profound effects on science, technology, medicine, etc. is huge. Not so for any third world nation. An inescapable fact, for sure.
2003-04-02 22:08 | User Profile
Originally posted by rban@Apr 2 2003, 14:59 ** Poles have a well-deserved reputation of being slow-witted dullards, and I suspect the same of other unter-menschen from the 'Africa of Europe'......As long as people like me are in charge, they won't get anywhere in this country.
But they do make good strippers & prostitutes, on the bright side. **
What was this you accussed us of being? Bigots? :unsure:
2003-04-02 22:09 | User Profile
Originally posted by Campion Moore Boru@Apr 2 2003, 02:41 ** But why is India always dredged up as a smokescreen? A country that has never made a blip in World History save for the profits Brits made off plants and spices native to the territory.
Everyone knows where Jban's heart lies. **
Natural multiculturalism - bigotry is OK, as long as it goes against the cohesive majority.
2003-04-06 05:24 | User Profile
rbanowitz,
pakis are more caucasian than hindus. And that says a lot.
2003-04-07 19:17 | User Profile
Originally posted by rban@Apr 2 2003, 08:59 ** Yes of course, it's all those pesky Jews! Without them, the Slavic world would indeed be Number 1.
Poles have a well-deserved reputation of being slow-witted dullards, and I suspect the same of other unter-menschen from the 'Africa of Europe'. Whenever our company interviews one of those folks, as part of the interviewing committee I make sure to throw in a few choice quips to kill any prospects. As long as people like me are in charge, they won't get anywhere in this country.
But they do make good strippers & prostitutes, on the bright side. **
I see jew rban has given up on answering Madrussian, Roy, and the rest directly. Jews never argue facts, so they ridicule the messenger, or worse. It's a shame that we have yet another jew using someone else, in this case Indians, as a smokescreen. He'll tell you Indians are pure Aryans, which ranks right down there with other multiculti myths like "race isn't real". Jews. They suck. That means rban sucks.
2003-04-08 01:24 | User Profile
AY-
The claims re Heisenberg always make me laugh. Note that these types of claims are always advanced by the no such thing as racial Jews, or overall of race crowd.
Slavs have traditionally made most have the great contibutions to sciences in the hard math fields. I'm sure Slavs will make the next great contibutions to theoretical physics as it so mathematically dominated.
2003-04-08 23:00 | User Profile
Originally posted by AntiYuppie@Apr 8 2003, 22:12 ** > *All right, so once again I re-pose my question to you: will you take my 120 million scumbgs off my hands and send me your Jews in trade? Put your money where your mouth is ... and I am not talking about a small-scale trade of one Turk for a Kristol....if we are going to do a deal you are going to take them ALL...all 120 million of the terrorists which infest my land. And I'll make sure you never have a chance to whine & bitch about Jews again....I'll take them all and gladly welcome them into India.
Heheh... I am salivating at this prospect and rubbing my hands with glee. If I can pull this one off, it'll rank right up there with Castro emptying his jails into Miami.**
First of all, what is this bit about "my land" (India). I thought you were supposed to be British? I wouldn't support taking in 100+ million people of any ethnicity or religion into America because we don't have the room or resources. However, I would gladly trade America's 7 million tribesmen for an equal number of ANY ethnic group - Pakistanis, Australian Aborigenes, you name it, I'd gladly make the trade.
But since neither of us are in a position to make this trade happen, why are you getting so worked up about it?
And just to clarify, I never compared India's Muslims to America's or Europe's Jews. The Jews are a unique problem because of their expertise at connivance and subterfuge. A better comparison would be to the negroes or mestizos in America, who probably play the same cultural role (only much worse because the average negro is substantially more stupid and more violent by nature than any Indo-European Muslim) here as Muslims do in the Balkans, India, or the Caucausus.
I also noticed that you don't have a rebuttal to my list of wonderful Jewish "contributions" to Europe. What's wrong, can't you face the fact that those wonderful Jews created and implemented the bloody Bolshevik revolutions and just about every other subversive, anti-national ideology in European history? I'm also wondering when you (or perhaps Steve Schwartz and William Kristol) will start telling us that Tesla was really Jewish rather than Serb. Tesla made the electronic age possible - what has any tribesman done of similar significance (I know - you'll bring up Einstein and relativity...Poincare and Lorentz did it years if not decades earlier, minus the self-promotion). **
Hey, don't forget Fitzgerald, it's the Lorentz - FitzGerald contraction! (Proper spelling is a capital G in FitzGerald in this case) Man, we Irish are always being deprived of credit by you ... all kidding aside, the bullsh** about Tesla being a jew is incredibly aggravating. He was a Serb. A genius. Yes, they already claim he and others of note were jews, when those in the know are aware they were not. The tribe always feels it has to somehow nab the credit for everything. If it can't outright steal, or "appropriate" without giving credit - a la' Eistein - then it tries to claim a particular genius was one of them. Here are some links to the giants of physics, if anyone is interested. Note that the press has done much to overstate the jewish presence amongst the alltime greats, but we know who runs the press. Oh, they are smart, and can learn and understand, and teach - which is their real talent, distilling the info. The breakthroughs by the tribe are overstated, or more "dependent" (hehehe) on the work(s) of others than stated; [url=http://cnr2.kent.edu/~manley/physicists.html]http://cnr2.kent.edu/~manley/physicists.html[/url]
You can go here to see pictures - a lot of Germans, but that is due to the location of the site, and the unfortunate, for the jews, number of hotshot German physicists; [url=http://www.th.physik.uni-frankfurt.de/~jr/physlist.html]http://www.th.physik.uni-frankfurt.de/~jr/...r/physlist.html[/url]
I see a predominance of whites, with a sprinkle of Chinese and the tribe for the most part in the latter site, with a noticable dearth of Indians. It isn't quite complete, but when coupled with what we see in competitions, know about innovation and invention, the results aren't surprising. Yes rban, there have been Indians of note in physics, not many though.
For rban, here's the Politically Correct Physics site: [url=http://www.jefflindsay.com/PCPhysics.shtml]http://www.jefflindsay.com/PCPhysics.shtml[/url]
Einstein was a product of self promotion and later promotion by the zionists. They did a good job, as his goy hating face is now all over everything that has to do with science, even though much of his "empire" continues to crumble. See this months Discover magazine, on yet another area where it looks like Einstein was wrong (lightspeed being constant, etc.). As several physicists of note have said, Einstein has been dead for years, but it will take decades to bury him.
** The jews succeed more in working as group, rather than on intelligence alone**. In sheer numbers, there are many, many more "smart" caucasians than jews. White populations are individualistic, atomized, which is why the jews follow us, and are able to subvert our cultures, governments, everything. The in-group jewish loyalty, which is unparalleled, is the reason for their present dominance, and will be the reason for their eventual downfall. They always overplay and overstay, and when the host population finally awakens, it is far too big and strong, and angry, for the jews to resist effectively. The jews are so closed, their small numbers eventually work against them. Same thing will happen here, despite the current immigration problem. Oh, we know Abe will try and jump behind us, to be on "our" side when the excrement hits the air conditioning, but it won't work. The Indians getting arrested by the Dutch will pale to the clean up you'll see here. We'll have much chaos before things are finally fixed, but it's all for the best.
America still manages to maintain a fair infrastructure despite the hindering effects of blacks and mestizos, and despite the jews sticking their feet in front of whites at every turn to trip them up. India does not maintain a decent infrastructure, despite a vast Hindu majority. That is where the problem with your runnning down whites comes from rban. There is no white country that matches India in terms of squalor and pestilence. None. Jews? How could they do without white money, without the US subsidizing them in Israel? Or anywhere? They've NEVER survived on their own. Good God, they might get their hands as dirty as an Indian's if they had to grow their own food, or actually manufacture something. And you tell us the Slavs are bad?
If you are truly not a zhid troll, and as enamored of India(ns) as you claim, simply pack your bags and go there. Maybe you can help them fight the Pakis or the Chinese.
2003-04-09 01:39 | User Profile
If Hindus had the number of brilliant brains claimed by rban, India would be thoroughly modernized. Instead, it is a miserable shite-hole. But then, anything counter to rban's purported belief in Hindu superiority isn't worth squat in his feeble mind.
The Irish? Sure the Brits look down on them. Because they are scared of them. Just like the Brits seem to have become scared of everyone. Look at the behavior of savage Africans, Caribbeans and Indians on that now God forsaken little island. They push the white Brits around far worse than white Americans are drubbed by congoids and beaners here. Not as many shootings yet, but a lot more ass-whippings.
I'll bet rban had a few on St. Patrick's. A few hits of Manishewitz.
I see rban still refuses to deal with facts as presented, and attacks everyone instead. What a Jew.
2003-04-09 18:38 | User Profile
...worth less than the toilet paper I use every day.
Toilet paper? You mean Hindus have sanitation? You certainly can't tell by looking at the Ganges.
"Hey? Isn't that my uncle Krishna floating by?"