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Thread ID: 5787 | Posts: 10 | Started: 2003-03-24
2003-03-24 15:30 | User Profile
While I'm usually repulsed by this leftist ogre, I happened to catch his Oscar victory speech last night, since I had the TV on while surfing the net. I must say, for this one specific moment in time, I actually agreed with this guy. As for the rest of the pathetic back-slapping industry dog and pony show called Oscar, I noticed Best Foreign Film Oscar went to Germany's "Nowhere in Africa" which is about a Jewish German family's escape from the Nazis and settling in sub Saharan Africa. Also I caught the Best Actor award which went to Adrian Brody for his role as a Polish Jew pianist during WWII in the movie "The Pianist". This most-likely-jew actor Brody went onto ramble muttered cliches about the "horrors of the holocaust" and for us to "never forget".......as they say in Hollywood, there's no business like shoah business.
Moore Criticizes War in Iraq at Oscars
By ANTHONY BREZNICAN, AP Entertainment Writer [url=http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030324/ap_on_en_mo/oscars_moore_5]http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor.../oscars_moore_5[/url]
LOS ANGELES - Michael Moore (news) criticized President Bush (news - web sites) and the U.S.-led war in Iraq (news - web sites) during his acceptance speech at Sunday's Academy Awards (news - web sites), drawing a partial standing ovation and some jeers from Hollywood's elite.
The documentary maker won his first Oscar for "Bowling for Columbine," but he brought the other nominees on stage with him in what he called a show of solidarity for nonfiction during these "fictitious times."
"We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president," Moore said. "We live in a time where we have a man who's sending us to war for fictitious reasons, whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts.
Applause gave way to some boos, as the orchestra began playing to cue the filmmaker to leave the stage.
"We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush. Shame on you," Moore shouted.
Afterward, host Steve Martin (news) tried to restore levity.
"It was so sweet backstage, you should have seen it," Martin joked. "The Teamsters were helping Michael Moore into the back of his limo."
"Bowling for Columbine" was Moore's exploration of gun violence in America. The title refers to the fact that gunmen Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold went bowling before they opened fire at Columbine High School in Colorado, killing 12 students and a teacher before turning the guns on themselves.
Asked backstage why he made the remarks, Moore answered: "I'm an American."
"Is that all?" a reporter asked.
"Oh, that's a lot," Moore responded.
He dismissed the jeers he received, telling reporters: "Don't report that there was a split decision in the hall because five loud people booed."
The rotund, scruffy-bearded activist from Flint, Mich., also directed the 1989 documentary "Roger & Me," in which he pursued former General Motors Corp. boss Roger Smith to confront him about the collapse of the auto industry in Moore's hometown.
He's also the author of the best-selling book "Stupid White Men ... And Other Sorry Excuses for the State of the Nation," which criticizes American politicians for favoring corporate wealth over public well-being.
Scattered appeals for peace and grim reports from the U.S.-led war in Iraq added a sober contrast to Hollywood's traditional night of glitzy self-glorification.
"In light of all the troubles in this world, I wish us all peace," Chris Cooper (news) said during his acceptance speech for best supporting actor for "Adaptation."
Cooper was among several nominees, including Meryl Streep (news) and Martin Scorsese (news), who wore dove peace pins on their formal wear as a silent statement about the war.
2003-03-24 20:37 | User Profile
I must say for this one specific moment in time, I actually agreed with this guy.
Hey, even a stopped, grossly fat, unkempt, self-indulgent and whiny clock is still right twice a day.
2003-03-25 01:09 | User Profile
Originally posted by MadScienceType@Mar 24 2003, 14:37 ** > I must say for this one specific moment in time, I actually agreed with this guy.
Hey, even a stopped, grossly fat, unkempt, self-indulgent and whiny clock is still right twice a day. **
LOL, my thoughts exactly.
2003-03-25 01:25 | User Profile
**"It was so sweet backstage, you should have seen it," Martin joked. "The Teamsters were helping Michael Moore into the back of his limo." **
Actually he said "into the TRUNK of the limo...."
2003-03-25 04:08 | User Profile
The actor Adrian Brody is half-Jewish, father's side.
Good actor, though.
2003-03-25 07:11 | User Profile
More interesting than the crowd reaction to Moore's rant was the booming applause and standing ovation that greeted the victory of (attached to this year's major Holocaust™ film, of course) Roman Polanski as "best director". Of course, he was the "favorite" considering the subject matter - and the chance to rub that and more in everyone's faces with the torrent of semitic cheering that greeted the announcement. See, even though he drugged a 13 yr. old - yes, he did know, he was shooting pictures of her for a magazine, a GERMAN magazine - and then stuffed his little wrinkled semitic peepee into her - in their world, we know who they are, in their world, one of them can do no wrong! Good God, should you intolerant bastards disagree, you should be sent to the Gulags! Oh wait, they aren't open yet. Officially anyway.
The voting in various catagories is usually done by members of a particular craft, union or guild, with the general exception being Best Picture and couple of other catagories. The win by Brody was probably fixed (as have been so many others) as the flick needs some publicity to generate cash, never mind put the Holocaust™ once again front and center. To force a win as Best Picture would have been too obvious, with all members voting on that catagory. As for Director, well, while most of the best directors are not tribal, the tribe makes up such a chunk of the Academy membership as far as director's representation goes, they will tend to vote in a block when they really need the win. Heheheh. Really need it. Oh geez. Anyway, there is much jealousy of old Marty by the big nose crew. I've heard enough off hand remarks to know. They dislike his skill (especially when a fair number of writers have commented on such, insinuating Spielberg is a hack compared to Scorsese and some others), much as they seem to dislike James Cameron's visual mastery (when he's in the director's chair). The fact that Cameron knocked Spielberg off the top of the box-office list (Titanic buried E.T.), coupled with Cameron also having written and directed the highest grossing R rated film as well (Terminator 2) still pisses off much of the world's most talented people. People can argue quality all they want ... but there isn't as much choice as there should be.
You can't beat a Holocaust movie in a big awards show. It won't happen. And Polanski didn't think the girl was 18. No way. He knew. But he's a jew. It's like carrying anthrax through an airport ... oh well, that's another thread.
2003-03-25 15:29 | User Profile
Originally posted by Roy Batty@Mar 25 2003, 01:11 ** You can't beat a Holocaust movie in a big awards show. It won't happen. **
Recent Past Holocause Films and/or WWII-glorifying-defeat-evil-Nazi Oscar victories * au cinema*:
1996 69th Academy Awards Best Picture THE ENGLISH PATIENT - Saul Zaentz
1993 66th Academy Awards Best Picture SCHINDLER'S LIST- Steven Spielberg, Gerald R. Molen, Branko Lustig
1965 38th Academy Awards THE SOUND OF MUSIC - Robert Wise
2002 75th Academy Awards Best Actor Adrian Brody- THE PIANIST
1998 71st Academy Awards Best Actor Roberto Benigni - LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL
1998 71st Academy Awards Best Director Steven Spielberg - SAVING PRIVATE RYAN
1996 69th Academy Awards Best Director Anthony Minghella - THE ENGLISH PATIENT
1993 66th Academy Awards Best Director Steven Spielberg - SCHINDLER'S LIST
2000 73rd Academy Awards Best Documentary-Feature INTO THE ARMS OF STRANGERS: STORIES OF THE KINDERTRANSPORT - Mark Jonathan Harris, Deborah Oppenheimer
1998 71st Academy Awards Best Documentary-Feature THE LAST DAYS - James Moll, Ken Lipper
1997 70th Academy Awards Best Documentary-Feature THE LONG WAY HOME - Rabbi Marvin Hier, Richard Trank
1995 68th Academy Awards Best Documentary-Feature ANNE FRANK REMEMBERED - Jon Blair
1981 54th Academy Awards Best Documentary-Feature GENOCIDE - Arnold Schwartzman, Rabbi Marvin Hier
1998 71st Academy Awards Best Foreign Picture LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL - Italy
1986 59th Academy Awards Best Foreign Picture THE ASSAULT - The Netherlands
1993 66th Academy Awards Best Original Screenplay Steven Zaillian - SCHINDLER'S LIST
1998 71st Academy Awards Best Cinematography Janusz Kaminski - SAVING PRIVATE RYAN
1993 66th Academy Awards Best Cinematography Janusz Kaminski - SCHINDLER'S LIST
1995 68th Academy Awards Best Documentary Short ONE SURVIVOR REMEMBERS - Kary Antholis
1994 67th Academy Awards Best Documentary Short A TIME FOR JUSTICE - Charles Guggenheim
1981 54th Academy Awards Best Film Editing Michael Kahn - RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK
Other Notables(may or may not have won any Oscar):
Indiana Jones:Raiders Of The Lost Ark 1981
Indiana Jones: The Last Crusade 1989
Au Revoir Les Enfants 1987
Triumph Of The Spirit 1989
Apt Pupil 1998
The Boys From Brazil 1978
The Great Escape 1963
It Happened Here 1966
Jacob The Liar 1999
The Man Who Cried 2000
Mephisto 1981
The Port Of Last Resort 1998
Shoah 1985
Train de vie 1998
Charlotte Gray 2001
2003-03-25 16:26 | User Profile
Wait --- what's this "Holocaust" thing everyone's talking about?
2003-03-25 19:44 | User Profile
Holocaust? Heh, heh, something about "gassed chamberpots." And, "6 BILLION served."
What dat mean?? Vat?
2003-03-25 20:24 | User Profile
That list is the tip of the iceberg.
Mercifully I can't remember many of the movies that I was propagandized into seeing during my childhood that spanned the entire 1950's and part of the 60's.
But Exodus, Morituri, The Pawnbroker (the Schindler's List of it's day) , Judgement at Nurenburg, Cast A Giant Shadow, the ubiquitous Anne Frank, The Garden of the Finzo-Continos (?) .
God, I can't go on.
A shrink would probably tell me it was suppressed memory syndrome. Too traumatic to recall.
My time here at OD is part of my post deprogramming therapy.
My first inkling that I would eventually rebel against my force feeding was the movie "The Dirty Dozen". The scene in which a bunch of German officers and I believe , if memory serves, some of their women were trapped in a bunker and the Americans were gleefully emptying 55 gallon drums of gasoline down the ventilators prior to incinerating them was the beginning of a Sartori (?) for me. That is where I first said "hey, this is BS".
Incinerating Germans was also done in "The battle of the Bulge". Robert Shaw was the burnt offering in that one.
My generation was propagandized, my kids were, and it is certain my grandkids will be.