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2003-03-16 19:20 | User Profile
[url=http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/273457.html]Haaretz- English Edition[/url]
By Arnon Regular, Haaretz Correspondent, and Agencies
[img]http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/images/iht_daily/D160303/rachel_corey_reu.jpg[/img] Rachel Corey (Photo: Reuters)
An American woman peace protester was killed Sunday by an IDF bulldozer, which ran her over during the demolition of a house at the Rafah refugee camp in the southern Gaza Strip. Another activist was wounded in the incident.
Rachel Corey, 23, from Olympia, Washington, was killed when she ran in front of the bulldozer to try to prevent it from destroying a house, doctors in Gaza said.
"Corey was killed in the al-Salam neighbourhood when an Israeli bulldozer covered her with sand as she stood in front of a bulldozer," said Dr Ali Musa, a doctor from the al-Najar hospital in the southern Gaza Strip. He said she died from skull and chest fractures.
IDF spokesman Captain Jacob Dallal said her death was an accident. The U.S. State Department had no immediate comment.
Greg Schnabel, 28, from Chicago, said the protesters were in the house of Dr. Samir Masri.
"Rachel was alone in front of the house as we were trying to get them to stop," he said. "She waved for bulldozer to stop and waved. She fell down and the bulldozer kept going. We yelled 'stop, stop,' and the bulldozer didn't stop at all. It had completely run over her and then it reversed and ran back over her."
Since the start of the Intifada, groups of international protesters have gathered in several locations in territories, setting themselves up as "human shields" to try to stop IDF operations.
Corey was the first member of the groups, called "International Solidarity Movement," to be killed in the conflict. Schnabel said Corey was a student at Evergreen College and was to graduate this year.
He said there were eight protesters at the site, four from the United States and four from Great Britain. "We stay with families whose house is to be demolished," he told the Associated Press by telephone from Rafah after the incident.
Check the Liberty Post Thread
Liberty Post - "American" Useful Idiot Crushed By BullDozer
Also, God forbid, there's a freeper thread on this also, even to these Liberty Post people "very nasty" as you can imagine. I don't think I should soil the sabbath by looking at this today.
2003-03-16 19:40 | User Profile
Matthew 5:9-10 (KJV) Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."
--Barry M. Goldwater
"Injustice and oppression will never prevail. Those who are powerful have to remember the litmus test that God gives to the powerful: what is your treatment of the poor, the hungry, the voiceless? And on the basis of that, God passes judgment."
--Desmond Tutu
2003-03-16 20:21 | User Profile
Originally posted by AntiYuppie@Mar 16 2003, 19:34 > Liberty Post - "American" Useful Idiot Crushed By BullDozer**
Rest assured there will be a FReeper thread devoted to the subject, with all of the regular Zionist hyenas chuckling and gloating to their hearts' content.
**
Here it is BTW. I guess it wasn't as bad as I thought. Of course a bunch of comments have already been removed by the moderators. Interesting, JR is starting to try to shore up his image apparently.
url=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/866060/posts Freeper Thread [/url]
2003-03-16 20:57 | User Profile
Not so fast there Okie. Check out these examples of what passes for insightful commentary on FR:
[url=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/866038/replies?comment=88]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/866...lies?comment=88[/url] (check out the first response to one poster's concerns about the degenerate nature of the discourse)
To: drhogan
I just don't think destroying houses will deter terrorists--it will just encourage more Palestinians to resort to terrorism because it makes the Israelis look like the oppressors.
You are right. The only rational policy is to destroy all the houses in the occupied territories and push all the residents into Jordan and Egypt where they in fact belong.
The Israelis have won all the wars, the Arabs have lost. It is time for them to accept that and leave.
So9
206 posted on 03/16/2003 11:56 AM PST by Servant of the Nine (JDAM the Arabs, Full Speed Ahead) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 126 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]
(Notice the subhandle on our friend Servant of the Nine)
[url=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/866038/posts]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/866038/posts[/url]
Here's another thread that more fully reveals the ghoulish humor, gloating, and struting on display at FreeRepublic. They crack morbid jokes, express a desire to watch the event on film for sheer amusement, and spit on the few who express dismay at the level of discourse etc. Very surreal in all it's hideousness. The sychronization of thought between Freepers has a very subhuman quality to it, almost as if they've surrendered control of their minds to a machine that broadcasts thoughts and emotions remotely. How ghastly.
2003-03-16 21:27 | User Profile
Too much more of this inhumanity and injustice will make the Rachel Coreys of the future realize that the Hamas and Hizbollah approach might be the best way.
2003-03-17 05:13 | User Profile
Sadly, the death of Rachel Corey is just one more example of how no good deed shall go unpunished.
At least now there is one more angel up in heaven. May she rest in peace.
2003-03-17 06:09 | User Profile
Here's another thread that more fully reveals the ghoulish humor, gloating, and struting on display at FreeRepublic. They crack morbid jokes, express a desire to watch the event on film for sheer amusement, and spit on the few who express dismay at the level of discourse etc. Very surreal in all it's hideousness. The sychronization of thought between Freepers has a very subhuman quality to it, almost as if they've surrendered control of their minds to a machine that broadcasts thoughts and emotions remotely. How ghastly.
It's not as much a phenomenon limited to Freepers, but really just to the average mass-man of humanity. They are reflexive, not reflective. There are those who think that the capacity for "hatred" and "intolerance" and the like has been bred out of modern Americans by the Jewsmedia, but that's not the case. Mass-man, at root, can't be transformed, but merely directed, or misdirected. He hates and shows intolerance toward the approved targets. And since this girl was not an Israel-supporter, she's an approved target for their hatred and the Freepers cheer at her gory death.
The funny thing about this phenomenon is how it can be re-directed at the flick of a switch. Give me control of the television and radio stations tomorrow, and within a week those same Freepers you see over there praising Israel and cheering this girl's death will be singing the opposite tune. That's the way lemmings are, and it's not necessarily a bad or ghastly thing. What makes the difference is who the leaders of the society are that provide these lemmings with their cues. Right now, the Freepers take their cues from an alien-controlled media, and what you see over there on that thread is the result.
2003-03-17 06:50 | User Profile
Originally posted by PaleoconAvatar@Mar 17 2003, 06:09 ** The funny thing about this phenomenon is how it can be re-directed at the flick of a switch. **
I was trying to explain just this point to one of the world's most brilliant people and they really do not get it. They really think that Pat Buchanan is as bad as it gets, and they figure they can deal with that.
There's two kinds of mass man, the certified idiots and the kind with advanced degrees. The second kind are the worst and they're about to get the shock of their lives.
I think we've gone past "it's coming"; it's here. These are the early moments. I'm enjoying it already. (Did anyone else note the synchronicity of the Buchanan's TAC piece and Israel Shamir's article on the exact same subject? I got and read them both in the same day as did many. The two articles strongly reinforce each other and were posted close together at Rense.com as well. Like they said on December 7, 1941: This is it!)
2003-03-17 09:02 | User Profile
Originally posted by Centinel@Mar 16 2003, 19:40 ** Matthew 5:9-10 (KJV) Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. **
Hers is indeed the Kingdom of Heaven.
We fight the Pharisees, brothers.
Walter
2003-03-17 12:33 | User Profile
Here's more, with photo's
www.palsolidarity.org
Contact:
In Palestine: Michael - +972-2-277-4602
In US: Huwaida - 202-494-0471 or 202-986-6160
March 16, 2003
STATEMENT ON THE MURDER OF RACHEL CORRIE
In Rafah, Gaza Strip today Rachel Corrie, a 23-year old American woman from Olympia, Washington, who was a volunteer with the International Solidarity Movement, was killed by the Israeli Army. Rachel was standing in the path of the bulldozer as it advanced towards her. When the bulldozer refused to stop or turn aside she climbed up onto the mound of dirt and rubble being gathered in front of it wearing a fluorescent jacket to look directly at the driver who kept on advancing. The bulldozer continued to advance so that she was pulled under the pile of dirt and rubble. After she had disappeared from view the driver kept advancing until the bulldozer was completely on top of her. The driver did not lift the bulldozer blade and so she was crushed beneath it. Then the driver backed up - effectively running over her again. The seven other ISM activists taking part in the action rushed to dig out her body. An ambulance rushed her to Al-Najar Hospital where she died.
The Israeli Army consistently bulldozes Palestinian homes, particularly in Rafah, where over 100 homes have been demolished in the last two years. The International Solidarity Movement - both Palestinian and international citizens - calls upon the international community to break the silence around Israel's grotesque human rights abuses. International civilians are in the Occupied Palestinian Territories attempting to protect Palestinian human rights and lives precisely because formal international bodies have refused to take action to do so. Dozens of Palestinian civilians are being systematically murdered weekly, and today, a beautiful, conscientious American defender of human rights was killed trying to protect the home of a Palestinian family.
This murder, along with Israel's continued destruction of Palestinian homes must be strongly condemned by the United States and the United Nations and they must insist that Israel abide by international law and UN Resolutions. The International Solidarity Movement also calls upon the United States government to conduct its own independent investigation into this incident and to take responsibility for the manner in which the Israeli government is using the $2.2 billion in military aid that we grant to Israel per year. This money and US-made weaponry is daily being used by the Israeli military to harm innocent civilians. The bulldozer that killed Rachel Corrie was an American-made Caterpillar D-9 bulldozer.
The murder of Rachel Corrie was clearly NOT an accident. Eyewitnesses report that the bulldozer driver was able to see Rachel, and that they were shouting to the driver to stop. The Israeli government and army continue to blame the victims of violence carried out by the Israeli Army for their own suffering. Israel must be accountable for this criminal act and all criminal acts it is carrying out on a daily basis in the Occupied Palestinian Territories.
The International Solidarity Movement greatly mourns the loss of Rachel Corrie and extends its heartfelt condolences to her family and friends. We pledge to continue actively working for the ideals of freedom and justice that Rachel died for.
For photos of the incident, please visit www.palsolidarity.org.
2003-03-17 16:38 | User Profile
There's two kinds of mass man, the certified idiots and the kind with advanced degrees. The second kind are the worst and they're about to get the shock of their lives.
That's true, too. Sleep and delusion can arrive under many guises, and those who think they are the most awake and enlightened can be the most duped. There's an "autopilot" snare for every layer.
2003-03-17 17:54 | User Profile
Originally posted by PaleoconAvatar@Mar 17 2003, 06:09 ** > *Here's another thread that more fully reveals the ghoulish humor, gloating, and struting on display at FreeRepublic. They crack morbid jokes, express a desire to watch the event on film for sheer amusement, and spit on the few who express dismay at the level of discourse etc. Very surreal in all it's hideousness. The sychronization of thought between Freepers has a very subhuman quality to it, almost as if they've surrendered control of their minds to a machine that broadcasts thoughts and emotions remotely. How ghastly. *
It's not as much a phenomenon limited to Freepers, but really just to the average mass-man of humanity. They are reflexive, not reflective. There are those who think that the capacity for "hatred" and "intolerance" and the like has been bred out of modern Americans by the Jewsmedia, but that's not the case. Mass-man, at root, can't be transformed, but merely directed, or misdirected. He hates and shows intolerance toward the approved targets. And since this girl was not an Israel-supporter, she's an approved target for their hatred and the Freepers cheer at her gory death. **
This is all the more obscene given that these same people need teams of grief counselors when a few school kids are killed, yet hold patriotic rallies to support the slaughter of thousands of children elsewhere.
2003-03-17 18:14 | User Profile
[url=http://www.prolog.net/webnews/wed/dd/Qmideast-us-unrest-reax.RKYd_DMG.html]AFP: US demands immediate Israeli probe into death of American peace activist[/url]
2003-03-17 22:59 | User Profile
In the era of the mass man, the lowest common denominator determines the mode of conduct for all. Where in the past the groundlings were being told to emulate the ways of their betters, now the potentially refined and noble are told to emulate the worst trash of society - which they gladly do, almost instinctively.
Conformism is a natural, and generally adaptive, social mechanism. The problem, of course, that in our society those who advertise the social norms to be conformed to are parasites manipulating the society to engage in suicidal behavior. It's much like a brain parasite -- dicrocoelium dendriticum, for example -- operating at the level of the society, within society's "brain" and nervous system.
Ideally, we would have "within-group altruistic norms maintained by punishment".
Boyd & Richerson provide the best discussion of conformism in a number of journal articles that can be located online, including:
[url=http://216.239.57.100/search?q=cache:l0BWQhU5AAYC:www.sscnet.ucla.edu/anthro/faculty/boyd/Dahlem.PDF+boyd+richerson+conformism+norms&hl=en&ie=UTF-8]http://216.239.57.100/search?q=cache:l0BWQ...&hl=en&ie=UTF-8[/url]
[url=http://216.239.57.100/search?q=cache:FY3TKu8KrJgC:www.psych.upenn.edu/~fjgil/Ultrasociality.pdf+boyd+richerson+conformism+norms&hl=en&ie=UTF-8]http://216.239.57.100/search?q=cache:FY3TK...&hl=en&ie=UTF-8[/url]
[url=http://webuser.bus.umich.edu/henrich/coopct.pdf]http://webuser.bus.umich.edu/henrich/coopct.pdf[/url]
2003-03-18 00:53 | User Profile
**We can blame Jews and other minorities all we want for this, but no Jew points a gun at the gentile FReeper's head and MAKES them applaud and relish the death of Israel's enemies. That is the audience's fault, not the director and not the producer's. As sentient beings, we have the choice not to swallow this all up, the bloodthirsty Pharisees at FR have made their choice and we have made ours. **
Excellent point, AntiYuppie. The patrons of FreeRepublic are independent moral agents and have the intellectual capacity to decide for themselves whether or not a particular course of action is upright, good and true. Everyone knows that gleefully cheering an innocent's death is depraved by any decent standard of human conduct. They have chosen of their own volition to disregard that truth. The fact that they received cues from outside sources to do so is, at best, a questionable mitigating factor. "The devil made me do it" is no defense.
I do accept PaleoconAvatar's notion that men do not operate in an intellectual vacuum and this grotesque misconduct is intertwined with other phenomena. We shouldn't be suprised that mental inanities come out of the mouths of these people when garbage is all their minds feast upon.
That, however, does nothing to temper the disgust I feel for their actions in the slightest way.
2003-03-18 02:20 | User Profile
The problem with defining "Americans" as an ingroup is that "Americans" are not a sociobiologically coherent group, indeed being loyal to "Americans" often means making sacrifices for negroes, mestizos, and Jews at the expense of one's closer genetic (and cultural) kin.
But there was a sociobiologically coherent group, or at least a population possessing the structures necessary for coalescence into a group, and the reason that the norms now involve sacrifices for others outside that population is simply that the invading parasitic group has instilled those norms through channels of conformist transmission.
2003-03-18 02:40 | User Profile
I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who meddle in others' disputes. Amy Biehl and Lori Berenson come to mind, also the group that went to Yugoslavia just before the war to protest the treatment of the Albanians. I doubt they'd dare show their faces in Kosovo now to protest the treatment of the Serbs.
That said, the Yugoslavs simply arrested and deported their troublemakers. This was an act of cold-blooded murder.
2003-03-18 16:21 | User Profile
I tend to agree with Stanley, people who insert themselves into the middle of others' disputes better be prepared for some blowback. Not that I agree with the repulsive gloating going on over at FR.
I think VNN is making a mistake by elevating this woman to near-martyr status, as you can see on both the front page and the letters section. From the pictures posted, it's clear that Corrie had "gone native" so to speak, right down to the burkha and burning of what looks like a U.S. flag. The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend. Does anyone really believe that the Arabs give a rat's behind about the interests of whites? Corrie, while no friend of Jews, was certainly not the poster child for the advancement of her race or culture. The photographs make that very plain and you'd think VNN would be more hesitant to promote a "culture mixer" if not an outright race mixer. Instead, it seems obvious that they are exploiting this for maximum propaganda value using someone who, while anti-Zionist, would otherwise be the polar opposite of everything VNN purports to stand for. Perhaps VNN is trying to forge links with the new anti-Zionist left, but I have doubts that this is the event on which to hang their hat.
That being said, I don't think the poor gal deserved to be crushed by a bulldozer. A lot of kids have far-left mindsets at that age. Who knows? If she had lived, maybe she would have had the chance to see that she could fight Zionism on behalf of her own race and culture instead of an alien one.
2003-03-19 11:46 | User Profile
How many more Americans must be killed by the damn Israelis before we wake the hell up and march on DC to throw the ruling thugs out of that city?
2003-03-19 12:17 | User Profile
Martyr or not, Rachel Corrie should serve as a warning to us white folks that, in the outlook of our ruling elite, our lives aren't worth spit.
Imagine, if you will, that Rachel had been a Jewish girl in a Jewish neighborhood, murdered by skin-heads on a bulldozer. Bush the Younger would immediately appear on the one-eyed Jew demanding justice, and Ashcroft would unleash his attack dogs. We the people would get up-to-the-minute news coverage, 24/7, until the skin-heads were brought down, probably in a hail of gunfire.
The one-eyed Jew has given very little coverage to the real Rachel. I wonder why.
-Z-
2003-03-19 13:44 | User Profile
Normally I would agree with the members who would withhold praise for human rights activists of this sort, but I think this girl is an exception. In the first place, it is our business, as we pay (dearly) for the existence of Israel. God grant us the day when more Amerikans insist on having a say about matters they should rightly be held accountable for. Also, I read the email she sent home (posted at VNN) and while she may have possessed some of the idealism of a twenty three year old girl, she was no mindless Amy Biehl. I wish I'd had as much insight into the power structure when I was that age, AND been willing to act on it.
I won't be at all surprised to hear her parents spout the usual leftist tripe, pass out ribbons and light candles, denounce racism. She deserves martyrdom anyway. At the least, I will futilely request that my governmental "representative" look into changing Martin Luther King Blvd. to Rachel Corrie Blvd.
2003-03-19 13:55 | User Profile
Originally posted by MadScienceType@Mar 18 2003, 10:21 **
I think VNN is making a mistake by elevating this woman to near-martyr status, as you can see on both the front page and the letters section. From the pictures posted, it's clear that Corrie had "gone native" so to speak, right down to the burkha and burning of what looks like a U.S. flag. The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend. Does anyone really believe that the Arabs give a rat's behind about the interests of whites? Corrie, while no friend of Jews, was certainly not the poster child for the advancement of her race or culture.
That being said, I don't think the poor gal deserved to be crushed by a bulldozer. A lot of kids have far-left mindsets at that age. Who knows? If she had lived, maybe she would have had the chance to see that she could fight Zionism on behalf of her own race and culture instead of an alien one.**
I agree completely. I just can't get excited about the activites these lefties engage in while they're on spring break from Frankfurt School, because I know that after the ME crisis dies down they'll be right back here struggling against the White Oppressor. Use this incident to expose the brutality of the Ziothugs, but don't expect it to lead to some great awakening in the anti racist ranks. They're too far gone.
2003-03-19 17:42 | User Profile
My comment regarding blowback applies to those who support Israel just as much as it does to peace activists. Moreso, in fact. The fact that the Zionized public didn't recognize 9/11 for the blowback it was speaks to just how far we've sunk. That they, collectively, accept the "hate us for our freedom" explanation just drives the nail in farther. Far from withholding praise, I recognize the girl's courage and convictions, but to think of her as an ally to the struggle of Whites against Zionism is simply wishful thinking to me. If you shout, "Opression!" you'll see a lot of earnest and courageous lefties come running, so long as those being oppressed are not white. The fact that there haven't been any Rachel Corries active in South Africa or Zimbabwe says more to me than anything her diaries ever could.
Let's delve into realpolitik a bit, shall we? What can we, as whites, usefully expect from the Palestinians? I see propaganda value, but not much else, so yes, let's use this incident to starkly show that, as Z put it, our lives ain't worth spit to the elites, but not fool ourselves into thinking the lefties would ever get on board with us in a big way. I imagine that Rachel would be horrified had she known "nasty racists" like VNN were using her to paint jews in a bad light, however justified.
2003-03-19 18:58 | User Profile
Originally posted by MadScienceType@Mar 18 2003, 16:21 **I think VNN is making a mistake by elevating this woman to near-martyr status, as you can see on both the front page and the letters section. From the pictures posted, it's clear that Corrie had "gone native" so to speak, right down to the burkha and burning of what looks like a U.S. flag. The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend. Does anyone really believe that the Arabs give a rat's behind about the interests of whites? Corrie, while no friend of Jews, was certainly not the poster child for the advancement of her race or culture. The photographs make that very plain and you'd think VNN would be more hesitant to promote a "culture mixer" if not an outright race mixer. Instead, it seems obvious that they are exploiting this for maximum propaganda value using someone who, while anti-Zionist, would otherwise be the polar opposite of everything VNN purports to stand for. Perhaps VNN is trying to forge links with the new anti-Zionist left, but I have doubts that this is the event on which to hang their hat.
That being said, I don't think the poor gal deserved to be crushed by a bulldozer. A lot of kids have far-left mindsets at that age. Who knows? If she had lived, maybe she would have had the chance to see that she could fight Zionism on behalf of her own race and culture instead of an alien one.**
I'm not sure I understand your fastidiousness about who our friends are Mad, or the general line of VNN and other radical WN's who from day one of 9/11 noted in regard to the raduical Arabs/Islamicists "that while we don't want to marry your daughters, or you ours, we share a common purpose, a common enemy and a common struggle"
What is at issue here that we can very much emphasize with types like Rachel is the double standard of neocons and the Jewish establishment in general over Israeli militarism and ethnocentrism. While we certainly don't agree with them on a lot of points, this certainly is a "wedge issue" as they say, which seperates honest leftists from the servile Israelphile liberal/neocon establishment.
Don't want to overemphasize it, but this consistency on honesty on the part of leftists like Rachel does represent a real opportunity for dialogue, and possibly even the possibility for growth and realization of other avenues of commonality.
It makes me curious about your reservations about people Rachel. These could just as easily be said about typres like Norm Chomsky, Norman Finklestein and Shamir, who are pretty close to people like Rachel ideologically, after all. I never hear anyone complaining about Norm Chomsky et. al. over here. Do you think we should be.
2003-03-19 20:42 | User Profile
I'm not trying to be too fastidious, but I advocate caution before embracing the left wholeheartedly.
"that while we don't want to marry your daughters, or you ours, we share a common purpose, a common enemy and a common struggle"
I'm glad they feel this way, but I didn't see a whole lot of this in the response to Corrie's death.
**Don't want to overemphasize it, but this consistency on honesty on the part of leftists like Rachel does represent a real opportunity for dialogue, and possibly even the possibility for growth and realization of other avenues of commonality. **
Well, the thing is, I don't really see a lot of consistency and honesty on the part of leftists of this stripe. As I said previously, I don't see them rallying for the plight of oppressed whites around the globe and here at home. They didn't have a whole lot of candle-lit vigils for the victims of Wichita or the rape and murder of Jesse Dirkhising, the way they did for James Byrd, Amadou Diallo, Mumia and seemingly every other illiterate black murderer on death row. To be fair, a lot of them simply don't know of the two former events, but folks like Chomsky do and I am forced to conclude they ignore them. They're open borders fans and advocates of a larger, more powerful socialist nanny-State. It's weird, you've got leftists who "name the Jew" but refuse to do anything else we might find common ground on, and conservatives who do everything but name the Jew.
By all means, we should explore commonalities and note the sacrifice of brave souls like Rachel, but to run up and say, "So you're not a fan of Jews? Welcome to the White Nationalist movement! Now let's see about them wetbacks!" is not going to work. I know, I know, I'm oversimplifying a touch. I guess as an example you could take your car battery. The two opposing terminals are made of lead, but are otherwise incompatible. Bridge them with a piece of metal and see what happens! However, if we could "wire" the connection right, the two might just get the motor running. Weaning them off multiculturalism is going to take some strong dose of gall and wormwood, though.
I think we're in agreement here, but I was just amazed at how obvious the exploitation of the Corrie affair was. Granted, the art of propaganda is not subtle and I imagine VNN is not aiming to make a think piece or anything. I guess good propaganda should be obvious, but not too obvious. In any initial dialouge with a mostly-opposed field of leftists, the use of inflammatory language such as "kke" is simply going to provoke a Pavlovian negative response that will insure they don't hear anything else. Now, before Il Ragno comes to Alex's defense, I will say I like* VNN. They have their place in the scheme of things and are damn good at what they do, if the Alexa rankings are any idication. This would be a perfect opportunity for a site like VDare or TAC or AmRen to make the inroads with the left you mentioned, but sadly, I think their fear of naming the Jew will prevent them from doing so, though I hope I am wrong. Personally, I think we might get more milage with the anti-globalist segment of the left, even if they are more concerned about sea turtles and dusky folks in sweatshops than American workers and industrial capability.
2003-03-19 21:41 | User Profile
I've been listening to the radio station that carries the CofCC show lately and I've noticed that a lot of the regular callers that are CofCC supporters are backing the War for Israel. Part of the reason for that is the mixed messages that come from the CofCC leadership - for example, on the show that aired the week before the 2000 election the hosts paid for a Buchanan for President ad while endorsing dubya, and even now one of the co-hosts is saying that he trusts Bush to do the right thing in Iraq - but the biggest reason they're supporting the war is because the freakish Rachel Corrie types on the station are against it. Why alienate these natural allies by forming a useless alliance with fanatical anti-racists? My attitude towards them is disdain, or, using the spelling that's popular on "Free"Republic, "distain". Pat them on the head for getting it right for once and then tell them to get back to us if they ever realize how full of sht they are. And that's all* the time I'd waste on them.