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Thread ID: 5551 | Posts: 8 | Started: 2003-03-14
2003-03-14 20:16 | User Profile
[color=blue]It looks like little Davey Horowitz never really lost his love for Trotsky after all. The arrogance here is breathtaking.[/color]
Dealing With Secessionists By David Horowitz FrontPageMagazine.com | March 14, 2003
Antiwar groups in San Francisco planning to create civil disorder on the day war breaks out; a Wisconsin university campus declaring its intention to obstruct the Patriot Actââ¬â¢s civil defense measures; professors at Stanford and other universities canceling classes to facilitate attempts to shut down campuses in protest against the war; teachers leading high school students out of the classroom and onto the demonstration lines; the New York City council (and many other municipal governments) declaring their opposition to the foreign policy of the United States --- all these are in one way or another acts of secession. They are derelictions of institutional responsibility and the rejection of obligations to the community at large. They amount to secessionist challenges to the institutions in question, including the nation itself.
What should the federal response be? At present it seems to be one of averting the eyes. The federal government pretends not to notice that civic entities whose citizens depend on it for protection, and whose operations it helps to underwrite have abandoned it and declared their opposition in time of war. The same can be said of schools whose professors and teachers have broken their contracts in order to obstruct Americaââ¬â¢s national defense efforts. And the same can be said for those who are planning to sabotage homeland security when American troops enter Iraq.
This is a morally intolerable situation, and dangerous as well. The time has come for Americans to take seriously the internal threat to their country and therefore to take steps compatible with American liberty to counter this threat. Breaking the law is not free speech and defying national policies that democratic majorities have put in place is not dissent. Both are attempts to undermine the existing democratic order. They are subversive and seditious, and they should be punished.
Teachers who abandon their classrooms must be disciplined and ââ¬â if the behavior persists ââ¬â fired. Universities that refuse to cooperate with the national defense should be deprived of all federal subsidies, including tax exemptions. Demonstrators who break the law should be jailed and fined. The sentences and fines should be set by the gravity of their actions and the level of the security alert at the time. An Orange Alert should double the penalties for obstruction which are imposed under a Yellow Alert; and so forth. Let the punishment fit the crime.
Above all, Americans need to take the war at home seriously. Otherwise we will risk losing the wars both at home and abroad.
2003-03-14 20:25 | User Profile
New York City council (and many other municipal governments) declaring their opposition to the foreign policy of the United States --- all these are in one way or another acts of secession. They are derelictions of institutional responsibility and the rejection of obligations to the community at large.
There's nothing illegal about a city council passing a resolution declaring that the "sense of the council" is that a certain policy is misguided. What Horowitz is saying is that city councils aren't allowed to express collective opinions. And since Horowitz mentions "democratic majorities," is he forgetting that those dissident city councils were also elected by democratic majorities? Since when were "conservatives" so centralist oriented, anyway? Horowitz true colors are indeed showing through.
2003-03-14 20:59 | User Profile
Teachers who abandon their classrooms must be disciplined and ââ¬â if the behavior persists ââ¬â fired. Universities that refuse to cooperate with the national defense should be deprived of all federal subsidies, including tax exemptions. Demonstrators who break the law should be jailed and fined. The sentences and fines should be set by the gravity of their actions and the level of the security alert at the time. An Orange Alert should double the penalties for obstruction which are imposed under a Yellow Alert; and so forth. Let the punishment fit the crime.
Horrorwitzky, didn't you forget to add GULAGS for those Amerisoviets who refuse to watch State Fox News (the one and only station on the air), surf dissenting websites, buy French Wine, have sex without State license, mock Presidente Bushnev, or any other act which is forbidden by decree and law by The Ministry of Allowances and Ministry of Motherland Security??
Comrade David, Ashkroftakola would be dissapointed to hear you're slacking in totalitarian practices! I shall report you to Perlekovsky and Wolfkova at The Ministry of Total Information Gathering if I see you slip up again!
Above all, Americans need to take the war at home seriously. Otherwise we will risk losing the wars both at home and abroad.
Yes, Citizens, NO ONE CAN RISK HARMING THE REVOLUTION! Not even you, Citizen. Not even you.....Bushnev.
2003-03-14 21:46 | User Profile
The other night I had the misfortune of getting 'Hannitized.' :ph34r:
When I got in my truck to go home from work, he happened to be on the radio station doing a show out on the Left Coast with shiny, special guest Davey Horowitz. When Hannity finally got around to shutting-up, he introduced the ex(?)-Marxist who then launched into a vicious diatribe similar to what he writes above. The audience, who I assume were GOP faithfuls, cheered as Davey mentioned each dissident group that should be rounded-up, silenced and purged.
Not having ever listened to Hannity before or talk radio in a number of years, I was a bit taken aback, to say the least. Considering the activities Horowitz himself claims to have been involved in in past decades, his chutzpah is frankly astounding. If anybody needs to be purged and sent to the gulag it is dual-loyalists like Horowitz and his jingoistic Neo-Con fellow travelers.
No War for Israel!
2003-03-14 21:46 | User Profile
Every Time the Neocons hit a new low, they find a way to go even lower!!!
2003-03-15 11:33 | User Profile
The IP is over-playing its hand.
These fools might actually take America into a no-win, open-ended war intending to violently stamp out dissent, and their name is written all over it.
If this goes on another couple years, the economic dislocations alone will be enough to cause the fickle sheeple to look for someone to blame.
They're freeking toast, man.
Walter
2003-03-16 04:09 | User Profile
Originally posted by Walter Yannis@Mar 15 2003, 11:33 ** If this goes on another couple years, the economic dislocations alone will be enough to cause the fickle sheeple to look for someone to blame.
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Walter,
I agree with all you say except for the "couple more years." The balance sheet in Middle America is getting ridiculous. We may not have that long.
Bush & company have not paid attention to the fact that while they spent billions to put an army in the Mideast and millions to relocate Somalians in America, tons of downsized engineers, IP workers and new college graduates are stuck in the rottenest economy in a generation.
Horowitz should at least remember some of the daydreams he had while he was a young radical. People without hope might get radicalized in a way he wasn't -- which might be poetic justice except it will be rough going for the innocent, too.
If worse is better, on the other hand, things are moving along very quickly.
2003-03-17 03:16 | User Profile
**What should the federal response be? At present it seems to be one of averting the eyes. The federal government pretends not to notice that civic entities whose citizens depend on it for protection, and whose operations it helps to underwrite have abandoned it and declared their opposition in time of war. **
While the Feds might overlook some ME men taking flying lessons, they rarely ignore domestic dissidents. Heck, they probably have some agents provocateurs encouraging some disruptions as we speak.