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Thread ID: 5434 | Posts: 4 | Started: 2003-03-09
2003-03-09 06:20 | User Profile
Historical Facts You Weren't Told
We do not support slavery and this material is not to suggest that we do. It is simply to inform those who have been misled in regard to the Civil War.
1) The wife of which Civil War General still owned slaves after the end of the Civil War? General U.S. Grant of the Union or General Robert E. Lee of the Confederacy?
Answer: General U.S. Grant, later to become President, sought to sell his wife's two slaves while in an impoverished condition after the war. This was legal because, while the Emancipation Proclamation abolished slavery in states in rebellion on January 1, 1863, it was not outlawed in the rest of the Union until the passage of the 13 Amendment three years later on December 31, 1865.
2) Which country outlawed African slave trade in their original constitution? The United States of America or the Confederate States of America?
Answer: The Confederate States of America allowed the owning of slaves, however the importation of new African slaves was made illegal because they felt that it might cause the warring of African tribes against each other. The people captured in tribal conflicts were sold by the winning tribe to slave traders. The people of the South felt that the slave trade encouraged these bloody conflicts to continue. As compassionate as they were in coming to this conclusion and assuming responsibility in these bloody African conflicts, we see that they were mistaken as African tribal warfare continues to this very day.
3) Who said, "Any people anywhere, being inclined, and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better." Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States or Jefferson Davis, President of the Confederacy?
Answer: Abraham Lincoln, Jan. 12 1848 - spoken to the U.S. House of Representatives.
4)Who said, "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the states where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so." Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States or Jefferson Davis, President , President of the Confederate States of America?
Answer: Abraham Lincoln - First Inaugural Address - March 4, 1861.
5) Who said, "If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission and offer my sword to the other side" ?
Answer: General U.S. Grant 1862
6) What was the major emphasis of the Emancipation Proclamation?
Answer: The Emancipation Proclamation is 540 words long. of those, 400 words limit the proclamation to the states in rebellion - it defines the states in rebellion and states that it is directed ONLY to the states in rebellion. It further says that if those states in rebellion would cease and return to the union within 100 days then they would keep slavery intact.
2003-03-09 18:28 | User Profile
Herr Doktor Faustus
Very interesting. Thanks for Posting.
2003-03-09 20:01 | User Profile
Then as now, Plutocracy = Hypocracy
[AIDS cases take note]
2003-03-14 06:11 | User Profile
James Madison in Madison Papers iii, p 1390 'The British Government constantly checked the attempts of Virginia to put a stop to this infernal traffick.'
The New England states desired to remove this passage from the original draft of the Declaration of Independence:
[color=blue]He has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating it's most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating and carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. This piratical warfare, the opprobrium of infidels powers, is the warfare of the Christian king of Great Britain. He has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce determining to keep open a market where MEN should be bought and sold: and that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, by murdering the people upon whom he also obtruded them: thus paying off former crimes committed against the liberties of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the lives of another.[/color]
[url=http://www.duke.edu/eng169s2/group1/lex3/roughpl.htm]Document[/url]
In 1778 Viriginia became the first state to the make the slave trade illegal with 'An Act for Preventing the Farther Importation of Slaves.'
[color=blue]no slave or slaves shall hereafter be imported into this Commonwealth by sea or land, nor shall any slaves so imported be bought or sold by any person whatsoever.[/color]
The issue is far too complicated for most modern men to understand.