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2003-03-08 22:48 | User Profile
Blacks Clashing With Hispanics - While Whites Sleep
By Sam Francis
March 06, 2003
One of the underestimated benefits of mass immigration, the Open Borders Lobby likes to tell us, is that it imparts a fascinating diversity to an otherwise drab, boring, and tedious white Anglo-Saxon civilization.
You probably could not have fooled William Shakespeare with that argument, but it seems to work well enough on many Republicans.
In any case, aside from the patronizing racism the argument conveys, it doesn't seem to be true. Almost every major conflict in the world today, from the Middle East to the Caribbean, seems to center around ethnic, racial or religious differences.
Thanks to mass immigration into this country, we may soon enjoy the same kind of conflict here.
A series in the Washington Times last week about the impact of America's newestââ¬ânow largestââ¬âminority group, namely Hispanics imported because of immigration, suggested just that.
The main theme that reporter Steve Miller perceived in the three long stories he wrote on the subject was that neither Hispanics nor blacks are very happy with each other. [Washington Times Three part series by Steve Miller: Part I Welcome to the neighborhood, Part II: Mutual mistrust, Part III: Suspicious minds]
In South Central Los Angeles, only one of the many areas and regions Mr. Miller surveyed, the predominant feeling among those few blacks who remain in the neighborhood is that "They took our homes and our schools," as one black resident complained. "They," of course are the Hispanics who have largely displaced the blacks in the area that was the center of the 1992 "Rodney King" riots.
Hispanics, for their part, are not exactly shy about saying they're glad the blacks are gone.
"Two years ago, nobody could walk around here and be safe," a Hispanic resident told Mr. Miller. "It was half blacks. But then the Spanish people moved in. Now it is safe."
Well, not entirely. Even though, as Mr. Miller reports, during the last 10 years "much of the black population died or left, sometimes headed for prison," Hispanic gangs moved in where black gangs had once ruled. The same man who complained that blacks made the area unsafe also told Mr. Miller about his children telling him that "that black and Hispanic gangsters were beating up the unaffiliated Hispanic kids..."
Today, Mr. Miller concludes, "the new arrivals also carried a crime wave of their own in the form of Mexican street gangs, which still run rampant. The mix of black and Hispanic gangs, each violently guarding territory, continues to make South Central a war zone."
But it's not just South Central that's a war zone as a result of mass immigration. The war zone seems to extend all over the country, especially where blacks and Hispanics confront each other.
In Memphis, Hispanic gangs moved in when black gangs "overwhelmed" local immigrants. "It's really tough to convince Latinos that blacks aren't all bad," the "Hispanic Outreach officer" of the local police force says. "They will talk to [white officers] or me, but they won't even talk to a black officer."
David Cortez, a 22-year-old immigrant who spent two years in jail for shooting a black, told Mr. Miller, "Just give us three or four years, and we'll take over. There will be more of us."
Blacks at least, if not the Open Borders lobby, know he's on to something.
As for blacks, they see no reason to welcome a population that takes their jobs for lower wages and competes with them for political favors from largely white politicians. "Why should we be in coalition with some group that wants to outnumber us?" asks Shannon Frank Reeves, head of the Oakland, Calif., NAACP.
In Georgia black legislators opposed a bill that made Hispanics an official "minority." One lawmaker argued that since there was no history of discrimination against Hispanics in the state, there was no reason they should be eligible for minority privileges.
In Dallas, blacks defeated a plan to give Hispanics a school district that would have reduced the number of blacks on the board by one. "They wanted to put more blacks with the Hispanics," says a black clergyman who opposed the plan. "Now why would we let them do that?"
Mr. Miller recounts similar stories of racial conflict all over the country from California to North Carolina. Everywhere the lesson is obvious: If you think gang warfare and racially driven politics make the drab and dull white civilization of Shakespeare, Beethoven, Michelangelo, and Jefferson more interesting, then mass immigration that turns a homogeneous society into a multiracial one makes a lot of sense.
But there's also another lesson to Mr. Miller's series. For both blacks and Hispanics, immigration is about who's got the numbers, pushing out, taking over.
Whatever their vices and virtues, they understand the interests of their own groups and work (and often fight, literally) to pursue them.
Whites don'tââ¬âwhich is why we have mass immigration into this country at all.
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[Sam Francis [email him] is a nationally syndicated columnist. A selection of his columns, America Extinguished: Mass Immigration And The Disintegration Of American Culture, is now available from Americans For Immigration Control.]
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2003-03-09 04:26 | User Profile
Brown vs black bloodbath maybe? Anyone think whites could ally with the blacks? At least when we're on top the blacks have a place in America, even if its working as janitors and other relatively low paying jobs. They'll lose everything if the Latinos take over.
2003-03-09 06:51 | User Profile
Anarch,
I do not think much can be done with a group people who voted over 90% for Clinton and Gore.
It is long past time for the sleeping giant to wake up!!!
2003-03-09 07:42 | User Profile
Obviously. But you can't pretend to drink beer and watch tv when a brick flies through the window and there's screams for blood coming from a brown or black crowd outside. I mean, when the system collapses, you think its possible whites would ally with the blacks out of historical nessecity for the blacks?
2003-03-09 11:18 | User Profile
That seems to be the goal of that one black woman... Elizabeth Wright?
Having lived in both black and mexican neighborhoods, I have to say I preferred the former. Of course, what would be really preferable is neo-segregation so we can have white neighborhoods again. But that can't happen until after a major societal collapse.
In any case, this is one of few issues where whites and blacks actually have a common goal, and we shouldn't hesitate to work the negro muscle for ourselves for a change.
2003-03-09 13:20 | User Profile
Hmmmm . . .
I have to say that I prefer Mexicans to blacks.
Choose your poison, I guess.
My experience with blacks has been completely negative, my experience with Mexicans only about half negative.
Actually, I'd say that the Mexican peasants - first generation before the multi-culti welfare state destroys their families - are actually quite a nice group of hard working folks. I know that the second generation urbanized Mexican gangs are just animals, but the folks that I met who worked the vegetable harvests had much to recommend them.
Not that they weren't without serious foibles. They drank too much, cut each other up with knives, and so forth. As a group they're not terribly bright, and they studiously avoid anything academic. And besides, the main point is that they aren't white and English-speaking, so they shouldn't ever be allowed to be more than a migrant workforce that comes in, picks the vegetables, and then goes home (if that).
But blacks, man. Whoa. Anybody who's lived among them knows that they're really beyond all help. I see ZERO conceivable role for them in our nation. Mexicans are on average head and shoulders above blacks.
Walter
2003-03-09 19:00 | User Profile
Instead of asking "Who would I rather live near?", the question should be "Who is a greater threat?"
America is rapidly becoming Mexicanized more than Africanized. The demographics make the Mestizo Reconquista a far more pressing danger.
2003-03-09 19:27 | User Profile
Why should Americans, White and Black alike, fear immigration? Because nowhere in the annals of history has a civilization participated in its own demise.
Immigration and Black Americans
"Black Californians felt the sting of illegal immigration 15 years ago but didn't know quite what to make of its symptoms. As a result, they are now critically and in many cases, fatally wounded with respect to low-skilled or entry-level positions. And, the black casualties continue to mount.": Karen Huff, San Diego Union-Tribune, Dec. 10, 1997.
"This once predominantly black neighborhood is becoming largely Hispanic. South Central [Los Angeles] is being transformed. Here we talk about 'black flight.' People are leaving neighborhoods where they have lived for years because they don't feel like they belong any more.": Terry Anderson, San Francisco Examiner, Feb. 3, 1999.
One of the cruelest effects of high-level immigration to the U.S. is its worsening of the plight of black Americans. Historically, blacks have suffered as a result of immigration. In the first half of the 1800s, immigration blocked blacks from economic mobility opportunities. Frederick Douglass was moved to say, "The old employments by which we have heretofore gained our livelihood, are gradually, and it may seem inevitably, passing into other hands. Every hour sees the black man elbowed out of employment by some newly arrived immigrant whose hunger and whose color are thought to give him a better title to the place."
During the post-Civil War industrial expansion, blacks lost out even for entry level positions when business owners preferred to hire white immigrants, who were then brought in en masse. The situation today is similar. During the Civil Rights era of the 1950s and 1960s, which was to have "freed" black Americans socially and economically, Congress also changed immigration law to pave the way for close to a million immigrants a year--many of whom compete with blacks for entry level positions.
According to recent studies, immigrants displace a disproportionate number of black workers and lower their wages. For example, a GAO study found that a decade of heavy immigration to Los Angeles had changed the janitorial industry from a mostly native black, unionized workforce to one of non-unionized Latinos, many of whom were illegal aliens.
According to the Census, the employment of black Americans as hotel workers in California dropped 30 percent in the 1980s, while the number of immigrants with such jobs rose 166 percent. A similar story can be told of the garment industry, the restaurant business, hospital work, and public service jobs. The Bureau of Labor Statistics found in a recent study that immigration accounts for about 50 percent of the decline in real wages for the lowest-skilled American workers, many of whom are blacks.
Immigration researcher and commentator Roy Beck noted in his 1996 book, The Case Against Immigration that:
"To review the Black side of our nation's immigration tradition is to observe African Americans periodically trying to climb the mainstream economic ladder, only to be shoved aside each time. It is to see one immigrant wave after another climb onto and up that ladder while planting their feet on the backs of Black Americans. . . . The most racist policy in this country for the past 25 years has been our immigration policy, because it has been the worst thing that has happened to the Blacks from the federal government since slavery."
George LaNoue, professor of political science at the University of Maryland, points out, "Affirmative action that was originally designed to compensate for the decades of discrimination against American blacks has been turned into a system where many of the beneficiaries, and in some environments, some cities, some sectors, most of the beneficiaries are people of fairly recent immigrant origin."
Black Americans are aware of immigration's impact and generally support immigration reform. The Roper Organization found in 1995 that 72 percent of black Americans think that immigration should be cut to less than a third of its present level. Gerri Williams, editor of Immigration Impact: Documenting the Effects of Immigration on African Americans, has noted, "as with earlier waves of immigration, African Americans have experienced the effects of this influx first and hardest. In education, politics, the labor market, social services, and more, the pressures caused by record levels of immigration are being felt in the black community. Immigration is one of the most significant forces affecting African Americans today."
While immigration reform would not be a panacea for all the difficulties of black Americans, it is obviously a step in the right direction. Congress must recognize that its policy of excessive immigration creates more obstacles to black advancement and should reduce admissions immediately.
-- Federation for American Immigration Reform ([url=http://www.fairus.org]FAIR[/url])
2003-03-10 15:06 | User Profile
The CofCC has actually had some black supporters come to their anti-Immigration rallies in the south.
The general black population is scared that Mexicans will take a share of their social benefits such as welfare and affirmative action. The blacks don't want to split all their goodies with anyone else.