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Thread ID: 5384 | Posts: 11 | Started: 2003-03-06
2003-03-06 21:14 | User Profile
An excerpt from a review of the upcoming book "Stalin's Last Crime" by American Jonathan Brent and Russian Vladimir Naumov. From the New York Times........
Mr. Brent and Mr. Naumov, the secretary of a Russian government commission to rehabilitate victims of repression, have spent years in the archives of the K.G.B. and other Soviet organizations.
Russian officials granted them access to some documents for their latest work, which primarily traces the fabulous course of the Doctors' Plot, a supposed collusion in the late 1940's by Kremlin doctors to kill top Communist leaders.
The collusion was in fact a fabrication by Kremlin officials, acting largely on Stalin's orders. By the time Stalin disclosed the plot to a stunned Soviet populace in January 1953, he had spun it into a vast conspiracy, led by Jews under the United States' secret direction, to kill him and destroy the Soviet Union itself.
**That February, the Kremlin ordered the construction of four giant prison camps in Kazakhstan, Siberia and the Arctic north, apparently in preparation for a second great terror ââ¬â this time directed at the millions of Soviet citizens of Jewish descent.
But the terror never unfolded. On March 1, 1953, two weeks after the camps were ordered built and two weeks before the accused doctors were to go on trial, Stalin collapsed at Blizhnaya, a north Moscow dacha, after the all-night dinner with his four Politburo comrades.**
The rest of the article here: [url=http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/05/international/europe/05STAL.html?ex=1047913355&ei=1&en=7d9ad3c99b5bd72f]http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/05/internat...d9ad3c99b5bd72f[/url]
2003-03-07 06:04 | User Profile
That February, the Kremlin ordered the construction of four giant prison camps in Kazakhstan, Siberia and the Arctic north, apparently in preparation for a second great terror ââ¬â this time directed at the millions of Soviet citizens of Jewish descent. ****
Just a wild guess, but could that statement have had anything at all to do with his sudden demise?
2003-03-07 09:50 | User Profile
Originally posted by seq@Mar 7 2003, 06:04 ** Just a wild guess, but could that statement have had anything at all to do with his sudden demise? **
No guess. Everyone in the USSR knew that a second great purge was coming, and its pretty much agreed among historians that Stalin's life was not extended by this general knowledge.
Not that I think any real nuances are immediately evident from a Paleo point of view. The only thing Stalin really stood for was death, and you can rest assurred that it wasn't going to be just Jews in those camps, that's for sure.
2003-03-07 14:15 | User Profile
I recently watched a 1992 HBO produced movie "Stalin" starring Robert Duvall as Stalin. This movie made sure that Stalin appeared every bit an anti-Semite as Hitler. The movie had one of his own inner circle comrades as the murderer. Oh, of course, Trotsky and the other Jewish Bolsheviks all depicted as the sincere, peaceful, intellectuals exterminated or exiled so arbitrarily by evil Stalin goon squads. I'm not one bit sympathetic to a monster like Stalin but maybe this new book might open up some more eyes as to where the ultimate evil lived within the former Soviet Union.
2003-03-07 16:55 | User Profile
Originally posted by xmetalhead@Mar 7 2003, 06:15 I recently watched a 1992 HBO produced movie "Stalin" starring Robert Duvall as Stalin. This movie made sure that Stalin appeared every bit an anti-Semite as Hitler. The movie had one of his own inner circle comrades as the murderer. Oh, of course, Trotsky and the other Jewish Bolsheviks all depicted as the sincere, peaceful, intellectuals exterminated or exiled so arbitrarily by evil Stalin goon squads. I'm not one bit sympathetic to a monster like Stalin but maybe this new book might open up some more eyes as to where the ultimate evil lived within the former Soviet Union.
I watched this recently as well. Duvall was excellent as Stalin and afterwards I was left thinking here was Nietzsche's Superman. He imposed his vision and his order on millions of people, sometimes in the most brutal ways imaginable, but there was no doubt, this was a MAN!
2003-03-08 18:58 | User Profile
Originally posted by xmetalhead@Mar 7 2003, 14:15 I recently watched a 1992 HBO produced movie "Stalin" starring Robert Duvall as Stalin. This movie made sure that Stalin appeared every bit an anti-Semite as Hitler. The movie had one of his own inner circle comrades as the murderer. Oh, of course, Trotsky and the other Jewish Bolsheviks all depicted as the sincere, peaceful, intellectuals exterminated or exiled so arbitrarily by evil Stalin goon squads. I'm not one bit sympathetic to a monster like Stalin but maybe this new book might open up some more eyes as to where the ultimate evil lived within the former Soviet Union.
In its better days National Review, of all things, had a good dissection of Stalin. They note Stalin was originally a moderate among the Bolsheviks, but the nature of Bolshevism forced him to turn into a monster to survive.
Of course National Review being the typical weasels that they are, focused its blame on a gentile - Ulanov (aka Lenin).But the logic clearly points towards Bronstein aka Trotsky.
Stalinism, like Hitlerism, another "mirror image" of Judaism. He figured, "what the heck we're all Leninists now, might as well act like it".
Shute not that much different than our situation in the "conservative movement". If the neo's are going to take after Trotsky, maybe you can understand why some paleo's like Bil White flirt with Stalin. After all maybe "we're all Leninists now anyway".
2003-03-08 22:02 | User Profile
I do not care if he did not like the "tribe" he was still the most evil man to even become a European head of state.
2003-03-09 02:47 | User Profile
Originally posted by Faust@Mar 8 2003, 22:02 ** I do not care if he did not like the "tribe" he was still the most evil man to even become a European head of state. **
There's a good discussion of this in Culture of Critique. They note that Stalin, even though an anti-Semite of sorts in the USSR, was a vertible semitophile in the Eastern European satellite nations, establishing almost all-Jewish governments to rule over such countries as Poland and Hungary.
2003-03-09 03:06 | User Profile
Okiereddust,
A very good Point!
There's a good discussion of this in Culture of Critique. They note that Stalin, even though an anti-Semite of sorts in the USSR, was a vertible semitophile in the Eastern European satellite nations, establishing almost all-Jewish governments to rule over such countries as Poland and Hungary.
2003-03-09 03:54 | User Profile
Originally posted by Faust@Mar 9 2003, 03:06 **Okiereddust,
A very good Point!
There's a good discussion of this in Culture of Critique. They note that Stalin, even though an anti-Semite of sorts in the USSR, was a vertible semitophile in the Eastern European satellite nations, establishing almost all-Jewish governments to rule over such countries as Poland and Hungary. **
I was really just classic divide and rule imperal politics. Stalin of course feared most of all that the Communist countries of Eastern Europe might reassert their independence - the so called "National Bolshevism". What better way to prevent this than to ensure the governments are staffed by people who hate their countries host population, and know the host populations in turn hate them? That makes them absolutely reliant on their puppet masters.
You see the same tendency in British neo-imperialists like rban of course, trying to colonialize the world through dmination of its hi-tech sector the same way Stalin did Eastern Europe, and the same way the British did throughout their empire, by setting different nationalities against each other.
2003-03-10 15:23 | User Profile
Originally posted by Okiereddust@Mar 8 2003, 20:47 ** > Originally posted by Faust@Mar 8 2003, 22:02 ** I do not care if he did not like the "tribe" he was still the most evil man to even become a European head of state. **
There's a good discussion of this in Culture of Critique. They note that Stalin, even though an anti-Semite of sorts in the USSR, was a vertible semitophile in the Eastern European satellite nations, establishing almost all-Jewish governments to rule over such countries as Poland and Hungary. **
The real battle was between two opposing groups of Jews. The secular Jews vs. religious Jews. It was Secular Jews who started the Revolution and initially ran the USSR. They were willing to persecute religious Jews in order to persecute Christians as well.
If I'm not mistaken, Stalin was a Georgian and married to a Jewish woman.