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Thread ID: 5354 | Posts: 7 | Started: 2003-03-05
2003-03-05 15:48 | User Profile
I wonder what the rest of the world would think of the Amrican Civil War, if the bullshit about slavery was stripped away.
The Federal Government invaded it's own territory resulting in upwards of a million deaths. Cities and farms burned to the ground, civillians starved to death (including the Negroes they were supposedly liberating). Large portions of the Southern population was expelled (many fleeing all the way to South America), so wealthy Northern elites could have their land.
The reasons for invading Iraq are the same as invading the South and most other wars in history. Making money for the elites!
I think it would strike terror in the hearts of the Arabs if they knew what the Federal government did to it's own people in the 19th century.
The whole world also seems unaware that the US was once Saddam's biggest cheerleader and cheif supplier of WMD.
Not to mention our building of Osama's training camps in the 80's. Many senior Al Queada figures were trained by the CIA and Army Green Berets to commit terrorist attacks against civillian targets in the Soviet Union.
2003-03-06 15:22 | User Profile
President Lincoln attacked his own people and started the bloodiest war in American history and the only war on American soil. Clinton bombed the white Christian Serbs with half the excuse (and twice the lies), now Yugoslavia is broken up. The no-fly-zones in Iraq likewise exist to prevent Iraq from holding together the union. Yet, Lincoln is a hero for what he did and Saddam is a bad guy.
2003-03-07 01:37 | User Profile
Originally posted by heritagelost@Mar 5 2003, 10:48 ** I wonder what the rest of the world would think of the Amrican Civil War, if the bs about slavery was stripped away. **
More importantly, I wonder what Americans would think. I've found that strangers often know more about history than do the natives. I'd say familiarity breeds complacency, if not contempt, but I dont really think most natives are at all familiar with our history. Would a more accurate image of our past affect Americans in any meaningful way? I doubt it.
2003-03-07 07:06 | User Profile
Saddam Hussein invoked Lincoln when the US reversed itself and expressed dissatisfaction with his "invasion" of Kuwait in 1990. The Chinese have also brought it up whenever the US makes protective noises about Taiwan. Also India, regarding Pakistan. Not schooled by the televitz, these foreigners know it for the power play it was. Only Americans buy, and punish their children with, the nobility of killing ourselves to free slaves.
"To wage a war for a purely moral reason is as absurd as to ravish a woman for a purely moral reason." ~ H. L. Mencken
2003-03-07 16:56 | User Profile
I had thought there could not be more than ten people in the entire world who remembered Charles Dickens and his thoughts on slavery. Prior to the Civil War [color=blue]Dickens observed the North hates the Negro quite as heartily as the South, but uses slavery as a pretext for domination[/color].
This was noted in the current issue of the New Yorker (Mar 10, 2003, p37 in an article written by Simon Schama. I am just recovering from a near heart attack on reading that note in that magazine.
2003-03-07 18:18 | User Profile
Some other pretexts:
"Preserving the Union" "Remember the Maine" "The Lusitania" "Surprise attack!" (Day of Infamy) "Fighting communism" "Tonkin" "Baby killers" "Terrorism" "Weapons of Mass Destruction"
2003-03-08 03:38 | User Profile
Originally posted by Ruffin@Mar 7 2003, 18:18 ** Some other pretexts:
"Preserving the Union" "Remember the Maine" "The Lusitania" "Surprise attack!" (Day of Infamy) "Fighting communism" "Tonkin" "Baby killers" "Terrorism" "Weapons of Mass Destruction" **
GREAT OBSERVATION!!
Just don't look behind the curtain...