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Thread ID: 5350 | Posts: 62 | Started: 2003-03-05
2003-03-05 03:09 | User Profile
Hey all, I just found this site on another message board and thought I would pass it on. They have some great stuff, it's truely a breath of fresh air.
[url=http://www.cafeshops.com/rightwinger]Right Winger Stuff[/url]
2003-03-05 03:31 | User Profile
I smell a Fweepah.
2003-03-05 05:24 | User Profile
Hmm, I haven't actually been looking for "I Miss Reagan" bumperstickers, "Keep your laws off my SUV" t-shirts, and "The French: cheese eating surrender monkeys" calendars, but thanks for the link. I wonder if they're open to suggestions? I'd love to have a Celebrate Repatriation Day t-shirt. :D
2003-03-05 05:40 | User Profile
Probably owned by some zhid looking to ca$h in. Remember the n***er joke site on the web that turned out to be owned by some jew trying to make money off what he termed "rednecks"? He was probably also trying to gather info on the visitors.
2003-03-05 21:28 | User Profile
rwinger, do you have this one in your inventory?
The Zhids: A bunch of bagel noshing, warmongering polecats.
2003-03-05 21:34 | User Profile
The best sticker I ever saw was
DON'T FOR FOR THAT "Son Of Bush" but with BIG S O B letters
2003-03-06 00:21 | User Profile
Everything on that page for sale is completely moronic!
2003-03-06 00:58 | User Profile
No site is complete without a f*ck ISRAEL! t-shirt.
2003-03-06 03:57 | User Profile
I see a number of anti-French paraphenalia. I wonder where the anti-German stuff is?? How neocons can spit in the faces of their European forebearers is really sad.
2003-03-06 04:25 | User Profile
Hey R.Winger, are you by chance related to Kip Winger of 80-90s rock music fame? :lol: :lol: :lol: :P [url=http://www.kipwinger.com/mc_hit_parader.jpg]Kip Winger[/url]
2003-03-06 05:07 | User Profile
Oh yes; the neocons are compiling their list of items to boycott!!
[url=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/857501/posts]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/857501/posts[/url]
2003-03-06 08:16 | User Profile
Originally posted by Feric Jaggar@Mar 5 2003, 22:25 ** Hey R.Winger, are you by chance related to Kip Winger of 80-90s rock music fame? :lol: :lol: :lol: :P [url=http://www.kipwinger.com/mc_hit_parader.jpg]Kip Winger[/url] **
She's only seventeen still pops up in my head from time to time.
If I'm not mistaken, Kip got his start playing bass for Alice Cooper way back when.
2003-03-06 21:01 | User Profile
R. Winger advising OD'ers to buy RightWingerWear?
I'd rather wear my Winger shirt.
2003-03-06 21:11 | User Profile
Originally posted by Hugh Lincoln@Mar 6 2003, 15:01 ** R. Winger advising OD'ers to buy RightWingerWear?
I'd rather wear my Winger shirt. **
Or better still, Dokken.
2003-03-06 21:24 | User Profile
Originally posted by Texas Dissident@Mar 6 2003, 16:11 ** > Originally posted by Hugh Lincoln@Mar 6 2003, 15:01 ** R. Winger advising OD'ers to buy RightWingerWear?
I'd rather wear my Winger shirt. **
Or better still, Dokken. **
But hopefully not Great White :angry:
....why not Quiet Riot instead :D
2003-03-06 21:35 | User Profile
Originally posted by xmetalhead@Mar 6 2003, 15:24 ** But hopefully not Great White :angry:
....why not Quiet Riot instead :D **
Now that you mention Great White, I am struck by the eerie symbolism evoked by that band's name coupled with what recently happened at that club up there in the North.
Quiet Riot? Krokus? Europe?
2003-03-06 21:54 | User Profile
Originally posted by Texas Dissident@Mar 6 2003, 16:35 ** > Originally posted by xmetalhead@Mar 6 2003, 15:24 ** But hopefully not Great WhiteÃÂ :angry:
....why not Quiet Riot insteadÃÂ :D **
Now that you mention Great White, I am struck by the eerie symbolism evoked by that band's name coupled with what recently happened at that club up there in the North.
Quiet Riot? Krokus? Europe? **
Tex, I feel the same eeriness about the Rhode Island fire. I'm still stunned by the timing of that disaster along with the name of the particular band partly responsible for that tragedy. Haven't heard much about the Chicago stampede lately.
Krokus :lol: Europe :lol: Whitesnake :lol: David Lee Roth Band :lol:
Guiffria :lol: W.A.S.P. :lol: Motley Crue :lol: Hanoi Rocks :lol:
Xmetalhead :ph34r:
2003-03-06 22:32 | User Profile
W.A.S.P. :lol: LOL! Hadn't thought about that band in ages. For the life of me I can't remember the name of their big hit back around 1985 or so.
Krokus had some good stuff, my favorite being "Eat the Rich." Can't forget Queensryche, either.
2003-03-06 23:24 | User Profile
I've always been partial to the Dead Kennedy's.
Kinda punk but clever.
2003-03-07 00:54 | User Profile
Ha ha, I remember WASP. "I f*ck like a beast!" LOL
Whenever Zionist neocons start to get to me a little too much, I like to listen to "Angel of Death" by Slayer.
2003-03-07 01:01 | User Profile
Slayer kicks ass. I used to put it on when cleaning my dorm room.
2003-03-07 01:07 | User Profile
I listened to Slayer a lot in high school :ph34r:
Used to have all their albums up to the one where they covered a bunch of old punk songs, like Minor Threat's Guilty of Being White.
*I'm sorry For something I didn't do Lynched somebody But I don't know who You blame me for slavery A hundred years before I was born
GUILTY OF BEING WHITE
I'm a convict Of a racist crime I've only served 19 years of my time
GUILTY OF BEING WHITE GUILTY OF BEING RIGHT*
2003-03-07 03:49 | User Profile
Originally posted by Texas Dissident@Mar 6 2003, 17:32 ** W.A.S.P. :lol: LOL! Hadn't thought about that band in ages. For the life of me I can't remember the name of their big hit back around 1985 or so. **
Love Machine! [url=http://home.worldonline.dk/defender/w-lyrics-L.O.V.E.%20Machine.htm]http://home.worldonline.dk/defender/w-lyri....%20Machine.htm[/url]
Cinderella, Fastway, Saxon, Helix, Hurricane, Lord Tracy
Twisted Sister, anyone?
Hair Metal Conservatives forever!!!
PS Wintermute, I like the Alien sig--I had this toy when I was 10 and wish I still did! <img src='http://www.toyarchive.com/Aliens/Toys/OriginalDoll1a.jpg[/img]
2003-03-07 03:56 | User Profile
Yngwie Malmsteen. George Lynch. Randy Rhoads. Rob Halford hitting the high note as no other metal screamer ever could (I was stunned when he "came out" as a fag).
2003-03-07 04:08 | User Profile
Originally posted by N.B. Forrest@Mar 6 2003, 22:56 ** Rob Halford hitting the high note as no other metal screamer ever could (I was stunned when he "came out" as a fag). **
I remember back in middle school we used to joke that when he sang "Hot Rockin'" he was really singing:
I wanna go I wanna go I wanna go BUTT F#%KIN'!
...little did we know how close we were to the truth. Yeeesh.
How about some GunsNRoses from the late 80s: Immigrants and faggots They make no sense to me They come to our country And think they'll do as they please Like start some mini-Iran Or spread some fcking disease They talk so many damn ways It's all greek to me *
2003-03-07 04:25 | User Profile
I was stunned when he "came out" as a fag
I was watching a Judas Priest video a couple months ago and was wondering how anyone could have been shocked that he was gay, but then I remembered that all the rock stars back then kinda looked like that :blink:
2003-03-07 07:10 | User Profile
There is definately a connection between heavy metal music and right wing political views. There are a lot of leftists, blacks and jews out there who think that mainstream metal is "nazi music" because they can tell that the whites who are more likely to stand up for themselves listen to it rather than rap or top forty type pop music.
2003-03-07 14:44 | User Profile
Originally posted by W.R.I.T.O.S@Mar 7 2003, 02:10 ** There is definately a connection between heavy metal music and right wing political views.ÃÂ There are a lot of leftists, blacks and jews out there who think that mainstream metal is "nazi music" because they can tell that the whites who are more likely to stand up for themselves listen to it rather than rap or top forty type pop music.
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Excellent point WRITOS. Does anyone remember the "disco sucks" days?? That was considered White racism, ya know. I could write detailed posts upon posts (maybe a book?) of the demise of Hard Rock/Metal and who was responsible for it, but I'll just paraphrase a quote made years ago by Vince Neill lead singer of Motley Crue, just after the grunge explosion, and I never forgot it: 'The people setting all the trends live in New York City and have tastes that are greatly different from the rest of the country.'
MadRussian, Edana, Wintermute, NBForest; great posts!! Brings back good memories. My favorite bands were Ozzy Osbourne, Van Halen (Roth days), Judas Priest, Iron Maiden. Also Crue and Ratt later on.
Ferric Jaggar, Twisted Sister :lol: !! You also mentioned Saxon! Yes, "Denim and Leather" is still in my vinyl collection. Does anyone remember the German band Accept? "Balls to the Wall"?
Wintermute: the movie "Rock Star" starring Mark Walberg is roughly based on the latter part of Judas Priest history. I recommend that movie to anyone interested.
From Black Flag's infamous "White Minority".... Gonna be a white minority/everyone else will be the majority/gonna feel inferiority......
2003-03-07 16:16 | User Profile
Originally posted by jeffersonian@Mar 6 2003, 17:24 ** I've always been partial to the Dead Kennedy's.
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Jello Biafra was, and still is, great guns. His lyrics were genius and needled self-satisfied liberalism from a hard-left perspective. "Holiday in Cambodia" is a superb example of this. Google for the lyrics if you're interested, but he rips the Birkenstock-wearing college campus fakes and imagines them "working hard with a gun at your back for a bowl of rice a day" in Pol Pot's Cambodia, while they brag that they know "how the negroes feel cold and the slums got so much soul." Like "This Modern World" by Tom Tomorrow, the Biafra/Dead Kennedys phenomenon was hard to deny through my decade-long journey through mainstream conservatism to White racial consciousness. These guys just had too much style, substance and wit --- not to mention righteous anger --- to be dismissed. Of course, Biafra (singer of "Nazi Punks, f*ck Off!" and clinger to the multi-culti nonsense) is wrong on the one important issue, race. But the Jello Biafra spirit is something to behold.
2003-03-07 16:19 | User Profile
Jello used the actual n-word and f-word because he considered his audience to be mature enough to handle them.
2003-03-07 16:41 | User Profile
Originally posted by W.R.I.T.O.S@Mar 7 2003, 00:10 ** There is definately a connection between heavy metal music and right wing political views. There are a lot of leftists, blacks and jews out there who think that mainstream metal is "nazi music" because they can tell that the whites who are more likely to stand up for themselves listen to it rather than rap or top forty type pop music. **
This is what the kommies in the Soviet Union believed. After Pink Floyd's "Brezhnev took Afghanistan" they made an explicit list of bands that were prohibited. The most suspected were KISS and AC/DC, due to the thunderbolts in their names, and in the case of AC/DC there was certainly powerful voice of angry white male talking.
2003-03-07 16:45 | User Profile
Originally posted by xmetalhead@Mar 7 2003, 07:44 ** I could write detailed posts upon posts (maybe a book?) of the demise of Hard Rock/Metal and who was responsible for it, but I'll just paraphrase a quote made years ago by Vince Neill lead singer of Motley Crue, just after the grunge explosion, and I never forgot it: 'The people setting all the trends live in New York City and have tastes that are greatly different from the rest of the country.' **
"Alternative" rock went away. You'd think it will be replaced with something more decent, and a revival of hard rock/heavy metal type of music. How come the imbecilic jungle chants with imbecilic jungle chanters are still on?
2003-03-07 16:50 | User Profile
Hugh, "California Uber Alles"- yes!! "Too Drunk To F*ck"- you know who they are! However in the mid '80's I loved Black Flag and I hold their "My War" as the ultimate punk classic. The Henry Rollins Black Flag didn't really do it for me though.
2003-03-07 17:02 | User Profile
"Alternative" rock went away. You'd think it will be replaced with something more decent, and a revival of hard rock/heavy metal type of music. How come the imbecilic jungle chants with imbecilic jungle chanters are still on?
[img]http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38442000/jpg/_38442455_viacom_pa300.jpg[/img]
2003-03-07 17:03 | User Profile
Originally posted by madrussian@Mar 7 2003, 11:45 ** > Originally posted by xmetalhead@Mar 7 2003, 07:44 ** I could write detailed posts upon posts (maybe a book?) of the demise of Hard Rock/Metal and who was responsible for it, but I'll just paraphrase a quote made years ago by Vince Neill lead singer of Motley Crue, just after the grunge explosion, and I never forgot it: 'The people setting all the trends live in New York City and have tastes that are greatly different from the rest of the country.' **
"Alternative" rock went away. You'd think it will be replaced with something more decent, and a revival of hard rock/heavy metal type of music. How come the imbecilic jungle chants with imbecilic jungle chanters are still on? **
MadRussian, the Kultural Kommies have since spawned the hideous "rap-metal" or sometimes called "nu-metal" to replace "alternative" which replaced "heavy metal". Many alternative bands were really good. Smashing Pumpkins, The Pixies, Pearl Jam, Sugar, Mudhoney, The Replacements made some excellent music. The "nu metal" is anti-melodic, anti-fun, anti-music, anti-White. It is simply pro-suicide. There is not one "nu" band in that genre that has anything memorable or listenable. It's the Kommies continued attempt at White cultural destruction.
2003-03-07 17:16 | User Profile
Originally posted by Edana@Mar 7 2003, 10:02 [img]http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38442000/jpg/_38442455_viacom_pa300.jpg[/img]
Edana,
is that someone that some refer to as "hate zhid"? ;)
2003-03-07 17:22 | User Profile
Originally posted by xmetalhead@Mar 7 2003, 10:03 ** MadRussian, the Kultural Kommies have since spawned the hideous "rap-metal" or sometimes called "nu-metal" to replace "alternative" which replaced "heavy metal". Many alternative bands were really good. Smashing Pumpkins, The Pixies, Pearl Jam, Sugar, Mudhoney, The Replacements made some excellent music. The "nu metal" is anti-melodic, anti-fun, anti-music, anti-White. It is simply pro-suicide. There is not one "nu" band in that genre that has anything memorable or listenable. It's the Kommies continued attempt at White cultural destruction. **
Are you talking about bands like Korn and Limp Bizkit? Those whiggers seem to be on the decline too. Now what I hear from commercial radio stations is some kind of more melodic stuff (Linkin Park?) with an occasional requisite jungle chant put in. I have a suspicion the latest wave of bands is a rip-off of some foreign pop-music.
I am listening mostly to a college radio station during my commute, but the good show that was on in the morning has been moved to another slot. Now I am stuck with some jazz and techno programs. The best radio one can get now is those low-power (agh!) college stations.
2003-03-07 17:42 | User Profile
Give up on radio. It's a lost cause. The only thing halfway tolerable on the radio is "classic rock" because they'll play CCR. To find good music, you have to download European bands. My husband turned me on to European metal and I haven't bothered with American music since.
2003-03-07 17:53 | User Profile
is that someone that some refer to as "hate zhid"?
Itz in there!
2003-03-07 20:55 | User Profile
Originally posted by xmetalhead@Mar 7 2003, 10:50 ** I loved Black Flag and I hold their "My War" as the ultimate punk classic. The Henry Rollins Black Flag didn't really do it for me though. **
Yes, "White Minority" was, like Minor Threat's "Guilty of Being White," a lil' toe-dippin' into the issue by an otherwise "innocent" band. We all listened to that in high school, but only one or two guys went further and became (actual) skinheads. I just went off to college feeling anti-PC and anti-affirmative action, but it wasn't until years later that I became conscious.
Henry Rollins is an emperor with new tattoos, running around badmouthing White Power music. I saw his Henry Rollins Band perform once, and it sucked. That fool works for Redstone's Viacom.
2003-03-07 21:44 | User Profile
Originally posted by madrussian@Mar 7 2003, 12:22 ** Are you talking about bands like Korn and Limp Bizkit? Those whiggers seem to be on the decline too. Now what I hear from commercial radio stations is some kind of more melodic stuff (Linkin Park?) with an occasional requisite jungle chant put in. I have a suspicion the latest wave of bands is a rip-off of some foreign pop-music.
I am listening mostly to a college radio station during my commute, but the good show that was on in the morning has been moved to another slot. Now I am stuck with some jazz and techno programs. The best radio one can get now is those low-power (agh!) college stations. **
MadRussian, the trends set by Moshe Shmuel in NYC are unpredictable these days. They've pushed pop-punk, Blink-182, they've pushed power pop rockers, GooGooDolls and Matchbox Twenty and they've pushed hard rockers, Foo Fighters and Three Doors Down.....and that's just within rock n roll. The Jacob Shoensteins of the music industry and entertainment monopolies control everything that gets heard and promoted on the airwaves. They will promote their cousin Issac Feldman's latest band at Universal records, but not Thomas J. Smith's latest band on that independent label. Mmmm?? Radio is obviously rampantly corrupt, like television, by monopolies who do nothing but number crunch and host focus groups, but most of the masses just can't avoid it, or maybe actually love it. There are tons of good bands and artists out there making great and interesting music, but if it ain't on radio or mtv, most people ain't hearing it.....or subsequently buying it.
Henry Rollins is an emperor with new tattoos, running around badmouthing White Power music. I saw his Henry Rollins Band perform once, and it sucked. That fool works for Redstone's Viacom.
Hugh, there used to be strong rumors that Rollins was/is a fudgepacker. Who knows. I did see him perform on his spoken word tours he used to do, maybe back in '90 or '91, and he does possess a serious biting and humorous wit, but his PC rant dismisses his authenticity as a punk rocker. Not that a punk rocker must be White power, but don't give into to the enemy either.
2003-03-07 21:53 | User Profile
There are tons of good bands and artists out there making great and interesting music, but if it ain't on radio or mtv, most people ain't hearing it.....or subsequently buying it.
Yes, in Europe.
Blind Guardian > > > kr0n
2003-03-07 23:28 | User Profile
Radio is obviously rampantly corrupt, like television, by monopolies who do nothing but number crunch and host focus groups, but most of the masses just can't avoid it, or maybe actually love it.
I doubt it. Half the people I know don't listen to commercial radio in their car anymore; the other half has switched to neocon talk radio because it's less grating to the ears than the new bands. :blink: Once again the US record industry is stagnating, partly due to their total exploitation of the bands they sign, and partly due to their poor taste in music. Once again they're blaming piracy instead of looking for new talent. Except this time, it doesn't look like there's going to be another MTV to bail them out with fresh foreign music.
Also, Viking Metal owns all other forms of metal. :D
2003-03-08 03:32 | User Profile
Henry Rollins is the biggest fake in post baby boomer rock music. He's not an expert or authority on anything and his music sucks.
I too could could write a book about popular music and youth culture in America from a white nationalist perspective but here are a few short observations that will have to sufice:
1) Grunge only broke big because a very large segment of people had stopped thinking hair metal was cool long before 1991. Anyone who didn't realize that Warrant was no longer cool until Beavis and Butthead made fun of them never knew what was cool in the first case. There was a vacum in popular music during the pre grunge period in which pop rap like MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice made it big. Grunge filled that vacum. MTV and the media tried to foist all kinds of god awful crap on the public under the label of "alternative rock" but the only stuff that sold was really just updated 70's style heavy metal.
2) In the second half of the 90's alternative rock as an identity for youth cultural afiliation fizzled and several things tooks its place, but for an audience range that was shifted several years younger(ie now included persons who were too young to have been strongly influenced by the trends of 5 years ago and no longer included persons who had reached that stage in life in which they were not interested in keeping up to date with the current trends). Such replacements include warmed over grunge like the foo fighters and now audioslave which attracts a wide age group, "nu metal"/rap metal like korn, limp bizkit and legions of clones which attracts a somewhat younger and heavily male demographic group and pop punk like blink 182 its legions of clones which attracts an audience almost entirely composed of people born after 1982.
3) For many younger whites, rap is simply "what's cool" and is not identified as being for blacks or even as having a black racial affiliation. This is extremely difficult for many people(including myself) to comprehend but is never the less a reality. As William Pierce noted, among white youth, generally the less intelligent and less creative/artistic are attracted to rap. You generally find prep/jock/frat boy/juvenile delinquent/buiness major types listening to rap.
2003-03-09 05:31 | User Profile
**Rob Halford? The guy with the cropped, bottle blond 'do? And the leather harness? And the chaps? And the little spike-y bracelets?
He's gay????!?!?!?
Wintermute**
Yeah, shocking, eh? Next thing you know they'll reveal that Freddie Mercury was a shirtlifter......
As for Edana's contention that the European music scene is more receptive to White rock, Yngwie Malmsteen agrees. He says that neo-classical/traditional hard rock is pushed harder over there, and that the fans lap it up - proving that people are hungry for musicians who can actually play. Over here, he can't get on the radio even with a gun.
2003-03-09 18:33 | User Profile
Everything about the European music scene is superior. They have neoclassical/power metal, viking metal, folk metal hybrids, neofolk....
America has kr0n klone wigger-rockers, feminized wannabe Seattle Sound Machine wimps, atrocious "pop punk", and hip hop. The music in America is base, boring, and has little which is actually musical. Strip away the fashion in most American music and there is nothing left.
2003-03-09 18:50 | User Profile
I have been keeping an eye on the American musical scene for some time now. I have noted an up and coming band from England. I believe they are called the Rolling Rocks. Keep an eye out for them.
I saw Dick Clark rate the 100 greatest influences and acts of Rock and Roll in a magazine. He had Madonna number 7 (or thereabouts); Buddy Holley 22; Little Richard 33; and Fats Domino in the 80's. I just about threw up.
In popular radio around Philadelphia old 50's rock'n roll seldom is heard. It seems outside of blacks the only records played are those that feature Jews. Glenn Miller and the big band sounds that I quite like have been shunted aside as music of the geriatric whites.
2003-03-09 20:20 | User Profile
Originally posted by Edana@Mar 9 2003, 18:33 **Everything about the European music scene is superior. They have neoclassical/power metal, viking metal, folk metal hybrids, neofolk....
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Do you happen to have a list of bands handy of the genres you mentioned? I would love to be able to listen to decent music again. I pretty much stopped listening to the radio in the second year of grunge.
2003-03-09 20:58 | User Profile
I'll give you a small list of our CD/mp3 collection with some links to samples -
Metal (various genres) -
Blind Guardian [url=http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/5/blind_guardian.html]MP3[/url] Borknagar [url=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005UKLP/qid=1047242437/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/002-5870683-9511264]Amazon samples[/url] Rhapsody [url=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000067UO4/qid=1047242471/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/002-5870683-9511264]Amazon samples[/url] Kamelot [url=http://www.kamelot.com/disco.html]Samples[/url] Children of Bodom [url=http://www.cobhc.com/soundclips.html]Samples[/url] Vintersorg [url=http://www.vintersorg.com]Samples[/url] Hollenthon [url=http://www.hollenthon.com/home/mp3.html]mp3 Samples[/url] Haggard [url=http://www.haggard.de/uk/downloads.html]Samples[/url] In Extremo [url=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000031WDY/qid=1047242848/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/002-5870683-9511264]Amazon samples[/url] Finntroll [url=http://www.finntroll.net/albums/disc.html]Samples[/url] Bathory (the later stuff.. the early stuff hurts my ears) [url=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000001H3C/qid=1047242926/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/002-5870683-9511264?v=glance&s=music]Amazon samples[/url]
Neofolk/medieval -
Estampie - [url=http://www.estampie.de/deu/cds_main.htm]Samples[/url] Orplid - [url=http://www.orplid.de]Samples somewhere in here[/url]
and... a lot more that I don't have time to list because I'm going out to lunch, but a lot is listed [url=http://www.fluxeuropa.com/musicindex.htm#bands]HERE[/url]
2003-03-09 21:46 | User Profile
Thanks Edana. I'll check them out. B)
2003-03-09 22:34 | User Profile
Originally posted by Edana@Mar 9 2003, 13:58 ** I'll give you a small list of our CD/mp3 collection with some links to samples -
Metal (various genres) -
Blind Guardian [url=http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/5/blind_guardian.html]MP3[/url] Borknagar [url=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005UKLP/qid=1047242437/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/002-5870683-9511264]Amazon samples[/url] Rhapsody [url=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000067UO4/qid=1047242471/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/002-5870683-9511264]Amazon samples[/url] Kamelot [url=http://www.kamelot.com/disco.html]Samples[/url] Children of Bodom [url=http://www.cobhc.com/soundclips.html]Samples[/url] Vintersorg [url=http://www.vintersorg.com]Samples[/url] Hollenthon [url=http://www.hollenthon.com/home/mp3.html]mp3 Samples[/url] Haggard [url=http://www.haggard.de/uk/downloads.html]Samples[/url] In Extremo [url=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000031WDY/qid=1047242848/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/002-5870683-9511264]Amazon samples[/url] Finntroll [url=http://www.finntroll.net/albums/disc.html]Samples[/url] Bathory (the later stuff.. the early stuff hurts my ears) [url=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000001H3C/qid=1047242926/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/002-5870683-9511264?v=glance&s=music]Amazon samples[/url]
Neofolk/medieval -
Estampie - [url=http://www.estampie.de/deu/cds_main.htm]Samples[/url] Orplid - [url=http://www.orplid.de]Samples somewhere in here[/url]
and... a lot more that I don't have time to list because I'm going out to lunch, but a lot is listed [url=http://www.fluxeuropa.com/musicindex.htm#bands]HERE[/url] **
Awesome. Beats the crap that the hate zhids propagandize to Americans.
2003-03-09 23:08 | User Profile
Originally posted by Edana@Mar 9 2003, 14:58 ** I'll give you a small list of our CD/mp3 collection with some links to samples - **
Thanks, Edana. A quick perusal, a lot of good stuff there. That Children of Bodom rocks.
2003-03-09 23:14 | User Profile
Siouxsie and the Banshees, WM?
You're showing your age, my friend. :lol:
Someone up above mentioned the Pixies and I wanted to plug them one more time. Man, if I had a dollar for every hour I've played Black Francis and his crew then I'd be a much richer man. A great band and Francis gets my vote for the best rock and roll scream ever.
Prithee, my dear Why are we here? Nobody knows We go to sleep As breathing flows My mind secedes I bleed
2003-03-10 04:54 | User Profile
Originally posted by W.R.I.T.O.S@Mar 8 2003, 03:32 ** Henry Rollins is the biggest fake in post baby boomer rock music. He's not an expert or authority on anything and his music sucks. **
For shear entertainment and cahones... I've got to say that Jello Biafra is one of my favorites. A bit too myopic in my view, politically... but it's hard to beat "Too drunk to f*ck" for thumbing ones nose at the "establishment."
2003-03-10 05:34 | User Profile
Originally posted by W.R.I.T.O.S@Mar 8 2003, 03:32 ** I too could could write a book about popular music and youth culture in America from a white nationalist perspective but here are a few short observations that will have to sufice:
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W.R.I.T.O.S.--
The examples you mentioned hit home to me because I was there experiencing it as a teenager at that time. You are also correct with the dates. Grunge became "de rigeur" in the summer of 1991. It was at that time when songs like Jesus Jones' "Right Here Right Now" and EMF's "Unbelievable" topped the charts. Only a year earlier, metal, dance-pop and R&B were really the only commercial outlets, with Paula Abdul and New Kids on the Block. Even when Vanilla Ice came out, it really didn't do much for rap because everyone was into M.C. Hammer (including myself), whose music, if heard today, seems like light years since it was first put out. Metal was still big, with Poison and Warrant very popular. At that time, I was still rushing to the bookstore and newsstand to find the latest issue of "Billboard" magazine to check out the Hot 100. The last time I ever bought a Billboard magazine was around February 1991. By then, things were starting to change.
I think grunge exploded the way it did because of the impending p.c. that was now the big buzzword. Grunge was all about "naturality" and "earthiness", and was so un-"80's". All of a sudden, anything 80's was considered "bad" and I think that it was so typical that would happen.
Today, the current music being put out by White bands is assembly-line guitar-blistering garbage, with bizarre-sounding names and record labels all trying to look "cool". The emphasis on its core audience is based out of "angst" and "alienation", which are supposedly symbols of status. Hearing this crap only makes me long for 1990 again, when I was an avid listener of Top 40 radio, and was still listenable (at least to my ears).
2003-03-10 12:57 | User Profile
To me at least, the 80s was rock music's low point: the decade when music and tv were finally fused together once and for all in obeisance to the Great God Rothstein. We got prefab bands that were put together for their photogenic properties, record deals inked on the strength of the video instead of the demo tape, and the vilest commercialization possible of every subgenre. The 70s gave us Black Sabbath, the 80s gave us Ozzy Osbourne's solo career. The 70s gave us Genesis and SELLING ENGLAND BY THE POUND, the 80s gave us Phil Collins and "Sussudio". The 70s had Alice Cooper and BILLION DOLLAR BABIES, the 80s gave us Britny Fox and BOYS IN HEAT. And KISS got even bigger in the 80s than they were in the 70s (telltale sign of the Apocalypse).
But if there are a lot of good-if-little-heralded bands around now (and there are) the impetus behind any renaissance we're seeing is the INTERNET, not any musical trend. The Internet makes it possible for bands to ignore trends, MTV, major labels and what Sol & Morrie are selling to the kids today, to concentrate on music instead.....and sell enough units to make a living at it. (Though the days of triple-platinum sales, for REAL bands at least, is over.) Though I lean more to the prog side than the kind of neoclassical metal Edana favors, I use the same mo: sound samples, e-zines, Google searches. I nowbuy 99% ofmy cds online because I don't expect to fimndwhat I want in stores...but I know it's out there, at least. 5-6 years ago, I didn't.
Here's a site I keep bookmarked which incorporates band-pages, small label sites, reviews, and all sorts of necessary ephemera to stay aware of what's out there (partic from Europe) that might actually be worthwhile:
[url=http://www.progressive-newsletter.de/index_e.htm]http://www.progressive-newsletter.de/index_e.htm[/url]
Use the dropdown menu from "Progressive Links"...and don't be needlessly frightened by the word 'progressive'. Nowadays it's a good word, denoting 'MTV won't touch this'.
2003-03-10 14:49 | User Profile
Originally posted by Texas Dissident@Mar 9 2003, 18:14 ** Someone up above mentioned the Pixies and I wanted to plug them one more time. **
Tex, I mentioned The Pixies up above somewhere. I know you and I agree on the great significance of The Smiths, but the The Pixies were the greatest band ever in modern rock history. No Pixies=No "alternative" rock. No Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Screaming Trees. The Pixies masterfully perfected the soft verse/screaming chorus formula that the latter bands simply copied. Black Francis post punk vocal and lyrical abilities have been unmatched since. Not even Cobain had the poeticism that Francis had. (however, Morrissey influenced Francis and Cobain i believe) Unfortunately, great things don't last forever. The Franck Black re-incarnation had some good moments but I believe chemically lacking. But I'll never forget The Pixies "Gouge Away" from "Dolittle":
*gouge away you can gouge away stay all day if you want to
missy aggravation some sacred questions you stroke my locks some marijuana if you got some
gouge away you can gouge away stay all day if you want to
sleeping on your belly you break my arms you spoon my eyes been rubbing a bad charm with holy fingers
gouge away you can gouge away stay all day if you want to
chained to the pillars a 3-day party i break the walls and kill us all with holy fingers
gouge away you can gouge away stay all day if you want to*
I believe every decade of Rock n Roll had tremendous highs and lows in quality but the DeGeneration of music from each decade to the next is conspicuous. It's just something in the spirit that's missing. But I do think the '80's produced amazing music from England in The Smiths, Depeche Mode, Happy Mondays, Stone Roses, New Order, et al, while the 80's post punk and hardcore underground flourished and raged with bands, some of which we spoke of earlier in this thread like The Pixies, The Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, Bad Brains, Husker Du, and Minor Threat which later on in the '80's was brought to the mainstream by The Beastie Boys and Faith No More and Fugazi which in turned greatly influenced the newer acts today. Like Il Ragno and others have said, there are excellent quality bands and artists making interesting music which fit no trends at all, that the masses never have the pleasure of hearing. But that's what makes these groups artistic and different: No commercial pressure=The most inspired and honest music.
2003-03-10 18:06 | User Profile
To me at least, the 80s was rock music's low point: the decade when music and tv were finally fused together once and for all in obeisance to the Great God Rothstein. We got prefab bands that were put together for their photogenic properties, record deals inked on the strength of the video instead of the demo tape, and the vilest commercialization possible of every subgenre.
I certainly agree, up to a point. Rock was still vibrant up until about '85. Beyond that point, Murray really started humping the worthless hair bands in earnest, chock full 'o pretty boys in tight, carefully ripped jeans who couldn't play or sing to save their miserable lives. The total focus from that point was shifted from teen-twenties males onto screaming 15 year-old girls who didn't give a damn if the music sucked as long as their panties were moist. What about Poison or Bon Jovi could excite a young man who wants to hear some really accomplished players?
I rapidly began to lose interest in the whole rotten scene when jew Roth left Van Halen, my favorite band. When Hagar joined, the bottom dropped out of EVH's guitar playing almost instantly. Don't ask me why. It's painful to hear his post-'85 crap on the radio now.
The 70s gave us Black Sabbath, the 80s gave us Ozzy Osbourne's solo career.
I like Sabbath very much, but in terms of great guitar playing, Randy Rhoads could've blasted Tony Iommi right off the stage.
2003-03-10 18:36 | User Profile
Originally posted by xmetalhead@Mar 10 2003, 08:49 **But I do think the '80's produced amazing music from England in The Smiths, Depeche Mode, Happy Mondays, Stone Roses, New Order, et al, **
The Stone Roses. Ahhh, yes.... :) Love and Rockets, The Alarm, The Cult, Mission UK, Robin Hitchcock and the Egyptians, The Woodentops, Julian Cope, The Cure, Nick Cave, The Furs, the Call, etc. etc. Yes, many many good bands came out of the UK in the 80s.
And if you were a fan of the 12 inch vinyl, there was Front 242, Ministry, NitzerEbb, Bolshoi, Skinny Puppy, Sisters of Mercy, J and M Chain, etc.
All in all I thought it was a great decade, but then again I have an age-related bias.
2003-03-10 18:44 | User Profile
In my opinion, just about the only good band of the '90s was Del Amitri. Very tuneful stuff.
2003-03-10 19:11 | User Profile
Originally posted by Texas Dissident@Mar 10 2003, 13:36 ** > Originally posted by xmetalhead@Mar 10 2003, 08:49 **But I do think the '80's produced amazing music from England in The Smiths, Depeche Mode, Happy Mondays, Stone Roses, New Order, et al, **
The Stone Roses. Ahhh, yes.... :) Love and Rockets, The Alarm, The Cult, Mission UK, Robin Hitchcock and the Egyptians, The Woodentops, Julian Cope, The Cure, Nick Cave, The Furs, the Call, etc. etc. Yes, many many good bands came out of the UK in the 80s.
And if you were a fan of the 12 inch vinyl, there was Front 242, Ministry, NitzerEbb, Bolshoi, Skinny Puppy, Sisters of Mercy, J and M Chain, etc.
All in all I thought it was a great decade, but then again I have an age-related bias. **
Ahh, this thread has brought back the good memories of when the world still had the USSR and Reagan and Thatcher.....
Ministry's "Halloween", Shriekback's "Nemesis" KMFDM's "Me I Funk" Sisters of Mercy "Dominion/Mother Russia" and Jesus and Mary Chain's "Head On" (which The Pixies later covered!) are classics from my Goth/Metal/Punk days which I still love.
Tex, I'd also add Adam and The Ants and The Fixx to those '80's UK vanguards you listed so well.
NB Forest, Del Amitri had a few singles that I really liked. "Roll To Me" I think was one of them, though I haven't bought any of their records.
My favorite 90's artist was Elliot Smith. "XO" and "Figure 8" as well as "Roman Candle" are classic cd's. He also did a bunch of tunes on the "Good Will Hunting" Soundtrack.
2003-03-10 20:04 | User Profile
Never forgetting the ONE band who have never deviated a millimeter in 25 years, irrespective of trends and fashion: Motorhead. Here's a particularly prescient lyric:
March Or Die
*The beast behind our eyes is loose, The day has come, the day has come, We march to Armageddon, hungry for the war I see the hated enemy I see what I was taught to see And one of us will bend the knee We understand the law
The blood lust jerks our legs to march, Fife and drum, fife and drum Our eyes are fixed and fearless Searching for the war Our statesmen deal in blood and lies 100 million stifled cries, 100 million wasted lives Already gone before
So March or Die, March or Die The stench of death is in the sky We never fail to satisfy We rend with tooth and claw
Sword and shield and jackboot heel We love to kill, we love to kill We love to taste our own blood Squirm in our own gore
Children weep and widows wail, Our education systems fail, To hide our guilt we build more jails, and we shall build still more Our forests die, the stranglehold That we put on the earth for gold Will yet increase ten thousand fold And no one knows what for
March and die, March and die Defecate, despoil and lie Cheat, dissemble, preach & spy Build your house of straw
Laugh and cry, laugh and cry Bloody sunset drowns the sky For earth the heal then we must die No-one deserves it more
I tell you we are doomed my friends Our time is come, our time is come We live within a charnel house Rotten to the core We glorify lust, greed & pain We drown our hope in poison rain We point the finger, shift the blame Ambition makes us whores
March or croak, march or croak All your lives a cosmic joke Fill your days with piss and smoke The wolf waits at your door
Burn and dance, burn and dance Sex, death, torture, false romance Whoop and howl, you have no chance Burn & rise no more*