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heritagelost [OP]

2003-03-04 01:31 | User Profile

Bush and Fliescher have both made statements implying that war is indeed coming in the near future.

Whats more, is Bush has now added another major demand making it impossible for Iraq to comply.

[FROM AP WIRE] After months of stressing disarmament, President Bush (news - web sites) now speaks more frequently of "regime change," saying that for Iraq to avoid war, Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) will have to go — something few Iraqis can even imagine.

My question is, when will the war start?


darkeddy

2003-03-04 02:42 | User Profile

Unless the situation with Turkey changes--and I hope it does not, as I don't want to see those Muslim fanatics getting all that lucre--war is likely to start in ernst early April, according to most reports. I think this is mostly a matter of getting all the necessary troops in place.

However, the Pentagon might surprise be launching an early attack. It is hard to say.


il ragno

2003-03-04 03:30 | User Profile

ABC News' guy was on before. His guess: early next week.


seq

2003-03-04 03:35 | User Profile

**'Iraq war could begin on March 13' **

London, March. 3. (PTI): A US-led war against Iraq could start as soon as March 13, just hours after a crucial UN Security Council vote on Baghdad, a media report said today.

"The moment we know we have the nine (UN Security Council) votes needed (for a military action against Iraq), we will go for it. The military won't hang around after that," a top US intelligence source was quoted as saying by Britain's 'Sun' newspaper.

"The timing is tactical," the unnamed intelligence source said.

A new Iraq resolution is expected to be put to vote in **the UN Security Council on March 12, following this Friday's report by UN Chief UN Weapons Inspector Hans Blix, on Iraq. **

[url=http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/holnus/03032207.htm]http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/holnus/03032207.htm[/url]


il ragno

2003-03-04 04:09 | User Profile

The day after we go in may well be Los Angeles' last day on this Earth. Stay tuned.


Roy Batty

2003-03-04 04:48 | User Profile

Il Ragno, think I should take a long drive out of town when jewtool Bushie starts the fun?


MadScienceType

2003-03-04 17:12 | User Profile

You have any vacation time coming that you haven't used up? Better take it soon!


il ragno

2003-03-04 17:29 | User Profile

Dunno, but I don't think this Kim Jong Il is fooling around.

I know that Bush (aka 'Mr Christian' according to Howard Fineman) crossed a line no American President has in my lifetime - by openly threatening a tiny sinkhole-country that hasn't attacked us with nuclear weapons. Incredibly short-sighted bit of bully swagger in that...you just don't know what else is gonna come out of that Pandora's Box once you open it.

Considering we're the only guys that have ever used them,and in Jong's neck of the woods besides, he might figure this idiot might go for seconds on him, and decide to hit us first. It's a tricky business....wiping out your enemies because of what they might do one day in the future, eh? The kind of notion that cuts two ways. Good thing we're God's special favorites and He's watching out for us, though.

Oh wait - isn't that Israel?


DRSLICEIT

2003-03-04 17:53 | User Profile

The illegal war against Iraq will begin within 48 hrs of the UN voting down the American resolution or immediately if Saddam does a pre-emptive.

The wild card of course is the bastard Israelies who is just waiting for an excuse to Nuke Baghdad.

If the Turks are not coerced into a second vote to allow the US troops into Northern Iraq, look forward to the Egyptians closing the Suez for our ships and causing a great gridlock.


Wayland

2003-03-04 18:57 | User Profile

Bush drove the North Koreans into a state of panic when he named them, along with Iraq and Iran, in his "Axis of Evil" speech, and with that triad about to be reduced to a pair, you can't blame them. Their best chance for survival now is to find some way to stop the drunk from taking the first drink, or at least thy probably see it that way. Expect them to launch some type of military action after the UN option for Iraq runs out in an attempt to make USrael think twice before proceeding with their war.


DRSLICEIT

2003-03-04 19:03 | User Profile

USrael.....hahaha..boy o boy that is the truth


Wayland

2003-03-04 19:50 | User Profile

Originally posted by DRSLICEIT@Mar 4 2003, 11:03 USrael.....hahaha..boy o boy that is the truth

That's what I thought. I first came across USrael on the [url=http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm]National Journal[/url] web site.


DRSLICEIT

2003-03-04 20:00 | User Profile

I don't believe it matters who is President as our Politicians have sold their soul and their ass to the Zionist who dictate what and when to do what they do.


Blond Knight

2003-03-04 21:44 | User Profile

Even the masses, who let the Talmudvision do their thinking, should be able to see which God Bushovitz, Rumsfeldstein & Ashcroftburg are worshiping. :(


N.B. Forrest

2003-03-05 02:08 | User Profile

The illegal war against Iraq will begin within 48 hrs of the UN voting down the American resolution or immediately if Saddam does a pre-emptive.

I would certainly launch a pre-emptive strike if I was Saddam - after all, he knows what's coming, and that nothing he or anyone else does can stop it. Buttgoy Boosh has backed the cigar-smoking rat into a corner. He simply has nothing to lose at this point.

It really is an embarrassment to any thinking American to contrast the insane belligerence of this "administration" (bwahahaha!!) toward a tin-pot diaperhead dictator who has never wanted to tangle with AmeriZOG with the careful, oh-so delicate kid gloves approach in "dealing" with a dog-munching Commie dwarf who has repeatedly threatened to vaporize our cities if we dare to screw with him.

Whats the matter, Jorge? Why no hoots & chest-thumps about that li'l situation? You & your Hymen wouldn't be afraid of someone who can actually fight back, would ya?


Javelin

2003-03-05 03:03 | User Profile

Imagine the possiblities-

US attacks Iraq

Saddam launches a few of his bottle rockets at Yidrael.

Yidrael uses that as an excuse to forcibly expell the Palestinians.

Iraqi agents in the US carry out suicide bombings in the US in crowded areas, scaring the easily frightened Americans.

Meanwhile an uprising in Saudi Arabia with major damage to itz oil fields.

Gasoline rationing.

North Korea invades South Korea and lobs a few nukes at California and Japan.

China sees itz a good time to take back Taiwan.

Congress passes a new hate crimes bill against "bigots" who deny the advantages of diversity or who question the six million figure.

And to top it all off; martial law is declared and a negro G.I. rapes your daughter while "defending your freedom" and when you complain about it at Free Republic, RimJob bans you. :(


londo

2003-03-05 03:44 | User Profile

Gosh Jav,

I hope you're not as clairvoyant as you appear to be!! :D

Welcome to the new world order!


DRSLICEIT

2003-03-05 03:53 | User Profile

Jav, that is what is going to happen for the month of April, wait till May.


heritagelost

2003-03-05 19:16 | User Profile

The media is now discussing U.S. battle plans as if war is indeed going to start any minute.

I have a strong feeling that the war may start Friday when the inspectors leave for the U.N. The US needs to act fast because international resistance is building. I suspect that no matter what the inspectors says the US will state that it is "proof" that Iraq is not complying and needs to be invaded.


DRSLICEIT

2003-03-05 20:12 | User Profile

I was just watching Powell blather on how we are going to win over Iraq and while doing so he put almost everyone to sleep with that monotone routine of lie after lie.

I have never seen any administration try and convince us that killing people is for the better good more then these murdering sons of bitches now in power. I just wonder how many soldiers must die before millions of citizens march on DC and drag these bastards to stand and be tried for war crimes as well as crimes against humanity.


Samuel

2003-03-05 20:16 | User Profile

Well said! May I compliment you on your restraint!

May God hasten the glorious day!


seq

2003-03-05 21:13 | User Profile

Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

Since the beginning of your life, since the beginning of the Party, since the beginning of history, the war has continued without a break, always the same war.

2+2 = 5.


xmetalhead

2003-03-05 21:21 | User Profile

All I can do to convey my feelings about this upcoming sick War for Armageddon is to quote from the great movie "Platoon", 1986, before final monumental battle.....

Sgt Bob O'Neill: Bob, I got a bad feeling on this one, all right? I mean I got a bad feeling! I don't think I'm gonna make it outta here! D'ya understand what I'm sayin' to you? Sgt. Barnes: Everybody gotta die some time, Red.


seq

2003-03-05 22:01 | User Profile

Wintermute:

...Osama bin Laden is dead or alive?

I liked him better when he went under the name Emmanuel Goldstein.


Texas Dissident

2003-03-05 22:04 | User Profile

Originally posted by wintermute@Mar 5 2003, 15:48 **Has the Ministry of Truth decided if Osama bin Laden is dead or alive? I'm still sort of curious, if that's permitted. **

Immanuel Goldstein....Uh, I mean Osama bin Laden....is, quite simply, whatever you want him to be....all at the same time.

Take my hand Come back to the land Let's get away Just for one day


Bardamu

2003-03-06 02:46 | User Profile

Originally posted by il ragno@Mar 3 2003, 22:09 ** The day after we go in may well be Los Angeles' last day on this Earth. Stay tuned. **

Why would they hit Mexico? B)


Bardamu

2003-03-06 03:25 | User Profile

Originally posted by N.B. Forrest@Mar 4 2003, 20:08 **

It really is an embarrassment to any thinking American to contrast the insane belligerence of this "administration" (bwahahaha!!) toward a tin-pot diaperhead dictator who has never wanted to tangle with AmeriZOG with the careful, oh-so delicate kid gloves approach in "dealing" with a dog-munching Commie dwarf who has repeatedly threatened to vaporize our cities if we dare to screw with him.

Whats the matter, Jorge? Why no hoots & chest-thumps about that li'l situation? You & your Hymen wouldn't be afraid of someone who can actually fight back, would ya? **

I thought this was so funny I sent it to an old friend who I am trying to wake up.

Altho I do not agree that Iraq will consider a preemptive strike. They lose the moral high ground when they do that, and the appearance of moral high ground is worth very much in the propaganda wars.


Sisyfos

2003-03-06 05:15 | User Profile

Altho I do not agree that Iraq will consider a preemptive strike. They lose the moral high ground when they do that, and the appearance of moral high ground is worth very much in the propaganda wars.

This is my sentiment as well. US will fire the first shot and Iraq will attempt to play the role of a lowly power fighting for its preservation against impossible odds. I say attempt because the ministry of truth and its media apparatus will considerably negate the propaganda value of Iraqi suffering and the one-sided nature of the affair. For those who are knowledgeable in other languages the contrast is certain to be rewarding and instructive.

Not that it will affect the outcome, but if Saddam were to give a decent effort in defence of Baghdad -- mother of all battles such as a Stalingrad is doubtless wishful thinking -- the effect on world opinion could be not unlike the German assault on Paris in the closing stages of the Franco-Prussian scrap. What started out as laugh-for-all on account of the French finally getting theirs turned to fear and changed public opinion in many countries when the Germans finally brought in howitzers to deal with the defiant city. Though there was never a question of the English, for instance, intervening on behalf of the French, the act probably served to prep the soil for the reception of seed of hostility between the two Germanic states. With real time news updates the potential not for foreign intervention but for still greater world condemnation is considerable. Greater Judea’s control of world media will be a more formidable test than Iraqi defences.


Texas Dissident

2003-03-06 08:18 | User Profile

Originally posted by Sisyfos@Mar 5 2003, 23:15 ** Greater Judea’s control of world media will be a more formidable test than Iraqi defences. **

Hmmmm....


Walter Yannis

2003-03-06 14:06 | User Profile

Originally posted by N.B. Forrest@Mar 5 2003, 02:08 ** I would certainly launch a pre-emptive strike if I was Saddam - after all, he knows what's coming, and that nothing he or anyone else does can stop it. Buttgoy Boosh has backed the cigar-smoking rat into a corner. He simply has nothing to lose at this point.

**

Iran has to be thinking the same thing.

Israel has made no secret of the fact that Iran is next on the list.

Look at it from Izzy's point of view. Pakistan has gone nuclear and could go Islamic anytime, whereas Iran has gone Islamic and could go nuclear at anytime. Either way, Izzy's in deep kim-chi, as we used to say in the service.

I fear that Shrub may be bluffing, which would be a terrible shame. This war will stress the system (and all of us!) to the breaking point. My fondest hopes could easily be dashed by Saddam's peaceful abdication and Shrub's face-saving bow to the authority of the UN, but hope springs eternal in the WN breast!

Worse is better, my friends. This war just might do the trick.

Let's bring it on!

Walter


heritagelost

2003-03-06 22:08 | User Profile

Time frame in which the US will begin its attack of Iraq (an attack requires minimum 1000 military units)

03/03/03 - 03/09/03 +500

03/10/03 - 03/16/03 EV

03/17/03 - 03/23/03 +120

03/24/03 - 03/30/03 +200

03/31/03 or later (but before 12/31/03) +150

Here are the odds offered by an online Casino. Whatever they are basing their odds on suggests that war will start 3/10 -3/16


seq

2003-03-07 05:55 | User Profile

Robert Frenz [faem.com] predicts that Thursday, March 13th is the day Iraq will be zapped in earnest. His reasoning: it’s Ashura, a Shiite Moslem Holy Day. [Some references quote Friday March 14th as the date.]

The armies of Armageddon have already begun to gather at the gates …


Walter Yannis

2003-03-07 12:33 | User Profile

Originally posted by wintermute@Mar 7 2003, 01:10 ** Soothsayer: [color=red]Beware the ides of March.[/color] **

Since you're a omen maven, try this one on for size.

The destruction of the Tsarist order at the hands of the Jewish Bolsheviks was associated with the name "Rasputin." The root word here is "put'" meaning the "path" or "way". The prefix "ras" means here "split" or "divergent", and the suffix "in" means "of or belonging to." Thus, the name "Rasputin" means literally "fork in the road," or in a religious sense "schismatic". It carries negative emotional weight in Russian - it indicates things out of order.

The name of the current Russian president is "Putin," which is the same as "Rasputin" but without the prefix "ras." Putin thus means "the way" or "the path." Etymologically speaking, the name "Putin" is the opposite of "Rasputin," and points away from chaos and toward good order.

In fact, there is a popular T-shirt now in Russia that plays on Putin's name being associated with the proper "way" and good order. It has a portrait of the Russian president and the saying "vsyo putyom", which means literally "all [is going] by the path" but which is better translated "all is well."

Does this bode well for Russia? Could it be that the Jewish Bolsheviks who rose to power in the chaos associated with Mr. Fork-inthe-road now find their fortunes revered in the time of Mr. True-Path?

Speak, oh wise Mute of Winter!

Walter


heritagelost

2003-03-10 15:02 | User Profile

I think all bets are on March 17 or March 18 right now.

After the UN votes, it will be now or never for the US.

The media in Ohio is drumming up support for the war. The Columbus Dispatch claims that while most Ohioans want UN support only 18% of Central Ohioan oppose any military action. They also said 66% responded that they would support "any decision" by Bush to start the war.

we all now that media polls are fudged to promote the views that the owners want.

USA Today also seemed to be rallying Americans behind war.

Oh yeah, surprise surprise Hollywood just released a movie glorifying the US military(Navy Seals rescuing Negro refugees in Nigeria) and I believe a second movie is coming out soon.