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Thread ID: 5248 | Posts: 24 | Started: 2003-02-27
2003-02-27 14:16 | User Profile
A Polish born Jew won the contract for the new WTC design. Last night while watching the announcement on TV, I said to my wife "God, that design has Jew written all over it." They didn't mention the name of the designer.
Hey, it's only fair. At least 2 Jews died that day, maybe as many as 12, depending on which story you believe.
[url=http://www.abc.net.au/rn/arts/atoday/stories/s229284.htm]http://www.abc.net.au/rn/arts/atoday/stori...ies/s229284.htm[/url] "Michael Cathcart: On Arts Today Iââ¬â¢m talking to architect Daniel Libeskind. Daniel you were born in 1946 in Poland, thatââ¬â¢s a very significant year to be born a Jew and in Europe.
Daniel Libeskind: Well I was born to a family of survivors, luckily I was born after the horrific events, but I was born in a milieu and went to school under a communist totalitarian regime, so I experienced kind of at first hand and in continuity the events that befell this part of the world, Europe, European Jewry and thatââ¬â¢s part of my background.
Michael Cathcart: And the Jewish story and Jewish history has been central to the work youââ¬â¢ve been doing recently. Can you tell us about the Felix Nussbaum house.
Daniel Libeskind: Well the Felix Nussbaum house is built in Osnabrück, in a conservative Catholic town on the edge of Germany and Holland, and itââ¬â¢s dedicated to a single human being who was a painter, and happened to be Jewish. He was a famous painter in his time, and then his life became a nightmare when in 1933 the Nazis took over. Then his life came to an end when he was deported to Auschwitz and murdered. But his paintings survived, luckily, and he communicated in his painting what was happening in Europe and in the world - and to him. And I was lucky to have completed building the museum which tells the story of his life. It's a museum organised around his biography, and gives access to the surviving paintings: 300, 400 works. A very interesting, I think, museum to encounter, because itââ¬â¢s not about abstraction of what happened. Itââ¬â¢s not about the 6-million - some numbers, some statistic - itââ¬â¢s about an individual human being and his transformed horizons from a very conservative, local painter who loved Germany, who was part of it, to someone who was a displaced person, to an émigré, to an unwilling survivor, and then finally to a person on the run, whose identity had been totally dropped, and who became kind of the last vestige of humanity. So thatââ¬â¢s the story of the building, and I think I was happy that not only was it completed, but it struck a chord with the local population in Osnabrück, and in that north, and in a city of what, 160,000 people, it had almost double the number of visitors last year, so itââ¬â¢s communicating."
[url=http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/ny-bzarch062993970nov06,0,4885412.story]http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/...0,4885412.story[/url] THE ARCHITECTS Studio Daniel Libeskind
Lisa Doll Bruno
November 6, 2002
Daniel Libeskind
Studio Daniel Libeskind
The Lower Manhattan Development Corp. recently chose more architectural teams to create designs for the World Trade Center site. This is the sixth one Newsday is profiling.
Background/history: Born in postwar Poland in 1946, Daniel Libeskind became a U.S. citizen in 1965. He originally trained as a musician, but left to study architecture. In 1970, Libeskind received a degree in architecture from the Cooper Union in Manhattan and in 1972 received a postgraduate degree in history and architecture theory from the School of Comparative Studies at Essex University, United Kingdom.
Libeskind established his studio in Berlin in 1990 when he won a competition to build the Jewish Museum Berlin. The ................... To see more: www.daniel-libeskind.com; www.greatbuildings.com; "Daniel Libeskind: The Space of Encounter," by Daniel Libeskind, Anthony Vidler, Jeff Kipnis (Universe Pub., April 2001, $24.50).
2003-02-27 14:27 | User Profile
Ugly design. Looks like an erector set. Where are the offices supposed to be? And what the hell is that linking the two buildings 2/3rds of the way up--a giant fish? Looks like a plane hit it. [img]http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2003-02/6493972.jpg[/img]
2003-02-27 14:59 | User Profile
I saw a different design that won the award on the web this AM, and it did not look anything like this pointed, star studded crapola.
go to cnn web page and look the one that won...still by this 'chosen' tribe member.
2003-02-27 15:27 | User Profile
A park would have been preferable in lieu of this glorified scaffolding. Appearance is everything; function is nothing. What a waste of space.
2003-02-27 15:27 | User Profile
They oughta put a bulls eye on it this time.
:D
2003-02-27 16:03 | User Profile
For the correct design go to....
[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2803191.stm]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2803191.stm[/url]
still by the same tribal member Libeskind.
2003-02-27 18:04 | User Profile
I truly fail to understand what the erecting of this ghastly edifice is supposed to convey, or how it in any manner honors those thousands who died. Many will forever be buried underneath this towering statement of Babylon. Would not a simple memorial park be more appropriate ? Wouldn't a city-wide referendum be the only just mechanism of determining what New Yorkers desire ? Between this disgusting affront to compassion and the orange blankets which will be laying a shroud of tackiness over Central Park, the Big Apple is appearing more and more rotten.
2003-02-27 18:15 | User Profile
It isn't supposed to convey anything genuine. That's all pablum. It is some of the most espensive real estate on the planet and there is no way it was going to remain a vacant lot.
2003-02-27 21:21 | User Profile
Ooooooyyyyyyyy, the inhumanity of that hulking graven idol. Dagon without a face.
Look upon it people and tremble at the power heartless, materialist, rootless cosmopolitans wield over you.
2003-02-28 02:51 | User Profile
This accepted proposal by Bloomberg is not yet written in stone. By the time he comes up for re-election, the actual mechanisms needed to construct this might not even be fully commited. There is a strong possibility that NYC could elect a new mayor and when that comes, lay waste to this project. This is among other NYC efforts to make damn sure such an edifice never exists.
2003-02-28 07:06 | User Profile
Utterly soulless dreck, just like the jew who scratched it up. I bet it took him a whole 5 minutes.
2003-02-28 12:00 | User Profile
Remember it is also a jew by the name of Silverstein who had the lease on the WTC just before 9/11 and is the one who stands to win as well on this murky tribal deal.
2003-02-28 15:33 | User Profile
*Ooooooyyyyyyyy, the inhumanity of that hulking graven idol. Dagon without a face. *
*.....this towering statement of Babylon....*
It's times like this I wish I were a religious scholar. I could swear that horrific "scaffolding" effect is rooted in some kind of satanic/mystic/kabbalistic design of some sort. There is something unholy about that design is all I'm sayin'.
Ordinarily I'm not one to take this tack, but what the heck? I may die violently one day because a red heifer gets born on a mountain 10,000 miles away; so I may as well get my licks in.
2003-02-28 16:35 | User Profile
Originally posted by DRSLICEIT@Feb 28 2003, 07:00 ** Remember it is also a jew by the name of Silverstein who had the lease on the WTC justÃÂ before 9/11 and is the one who stands to win as well on this murky tribal deal. **
Yes, Dr Slice It, Silverstein also renewed his insurance policy on WTC several months before Sept '01, and I'm sure he's just rolling in dough at the expense of millions of goyim anyway.
I'll go out on a limb here, and say that the WTC offices were losing millions of $$$ everyday (something that was reported on in the press way before Sept '01) due to hundreds of thousands of usable square footage being vacant. Companies couldn't afford to rent in WTC and were fleeing to Jersey City and Westchester, NY and Connecticut for cheaper taxes and better kickbacks. To stop the bleeding behemoth WTC why not just wreck it? With a little help from friends, Silverstein was able to do a little insurance job AND help his NWO cronies at the same time??? I dunno.
I live in NYC and I think this is all dog and pony shite. There's no way the city will build that new monstrosity when they know they can't fill it to capacity. They want and need a big time money making entity in that space.
I'll stick by my original prediction for now which is that a stadium will be built there for the '12 Olympics and Yankees/Mets/Jets/Giants will take over after or even possibly before that. I could be wrong but that's my gut. Just follow the money.
2003-02-28 21:38 | User Profile
Hello everybody. Thanks for the welcome, TD. I went to Liebeskind's Holocaust Museum in Berlin a couple of years ago. They were offering tours to show off the architecture before they put in the displays. The museum had the same odd-angled planar thing going on as shown in the Ground Zero project's picture. The fact that hallway floors were tilted and, in the core of the museum, narrowing in all dimensions, was supposed to express the increasingly hopeless situations Jews faced in Nazi Germany. That ever-narrowing hallway ended at a tiny door that led into a big empty concrete ellipse, with walls about 30 feet high at least, lit only by skylights. A garden/patio area was filled with a couple of dozen oppressively large square stone pillers, with just enough room to walk between them. Quite a fun-house. There was also some shape depicted with the floor plan as a whole, but I forget what it was--maybe a fat crack to represent Kristallnacht?
With the new World Trade Center design, it seems to me that he's using the same idea for odd-angled planes.
Anybody out there ever seen the Center for Innovative Technology building in Tysons' Corner, Va.? It is prominent on the road from Dulles Intl. to Washington, and has the same self-consciously space-wasting odd angle thing.
Frederick Turner, the poet, had an essay out about a year ago on the need to preserve the tension between God and Mammon at the site, and related that to the Constitution's attempt to found a system respectful of both commerce and higher pursuits. He proposed a big memorial garden on the top of the replacement commercial building, with the theory that it would be closer to the actual point where most of the victims died.
2003-02-28 23:09 | User Profile
Also the jew built Gugenheim Museum is Bilbao Spain has the same stupid features.
I think these monstrosities mirror the image of the minds of jews who are so fkd up mentaly that they perceive everyone will be in total awe of their derangement.
2003-03-01 01:49 | User Profile
I said months ago a jew would be "the winner". It's about as surprising as an Asian being chosen to design the Vietnam memorial in DC.
Yes Wintermute, The Mountains of Madness and the Old Ones, the first things that came to my mind when I saw this. Wish I had been able to get to the forum earlier and attempt to beat you to the punch.
All jewish architects are hacks. As the Japanese openly say (and whites know, but won't say out loud), the jews have no eye for design, not at all. Take a look at synagogues, then look at churches. Almost all synagogues, if not of the storefront variety, look like building blocks butchered and glued together by a schizophrenic with Down's syndrome. Even the "revered" jew architect Frank Gehry is nothing more than a derivative hack - only receiving publicity now because he is a jew, and Time Warner ran articles on him late in 2001 - because they were putting out a book on his sh*tty works in 2002. Every work by a jewish architect is a monstrosity. Bar none.
2003-03-01 03:22 | User Profile
Originally posted by Roger Bannister@Mar 1 2003, 01:49 ** I said months ago a jew would be "the winner"...
All jewish architects are hacks... Every work by a jewish architect is a monstrosity. Bar none. **
Look, of course the moneychangers would choose this fellow tribesman and "child of Holocaust survivors". When I read about this Polish-German Jew being in the running I thought at that time all the others might as well hang it up-- it's kind of like trying to compete against a deaf minority in the Miss America contest.
I have seen the previous works of this moneychanger and they are all ugly. Just like every other field Jews have forced their way into, they have cheapened art and architecture. But alas, few will be aware of this because these middlemen have effectively dumb-down and cheapened European culture. Their ability to do this I blame on The "Enlightenment", Protestantism, and the rise and dominance of capitalism (I believe in a distributist economic system-- along with a [white] European Christian populace).
2003-03-01 08:01 | User Profile
**All jewish architects are hacks. As the Japanese openly say (and whites know, but won't say out loud), the jews have no eye for design, not at all. **
All one need do is take a gander at the Tel Aviv skyline during the report of the next outrage from Zhid Central.
2003-03-01 12:26 | User Profile
There are dozens of odd looking monuments all around the country, mostly in cities, usually made of metal.
Does anyone know who designed and planted them and why?
2003-03-01 20:46 | User Profile
The building on the right is indeed a 5-point pentagon. But ake a look at its downward-pointing triangle, which economically chews up the space on top. Izzy trying to make a statement about the building that " fell down " ? Its certainly pointed down. And the pentagon roof, an inference to the Pentagon being hit also ? So depressing..
2003-03-02 01:28 | User Profile
It is even more ugly than the old WTC!!!!!
:blink:
2003-03-02 02:29 | User Profile
My fellow Paleocons, let it be said. " If vanity shall fall, it will be reconstructed. Justice never falls, and cannot be re-constructed. "
I made that quote.. I will never be claimed in history, but what matter. A dead corpse is a dead corpse.
2003-03-02 05:38 | User Profile
Classic civic architecture circa 438 BC--[img]http://www.isu.edu/alumni/Parthenon.jpg[/img]