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Thread ID: 5221 | Posts: 14 | Started: 2003-02-25
2003-02-25 23:08 | User Profile
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ADL Denounces PETA for its 'Holocaust on Your Plate' Campaign Calls Appeal for Jewish Community Support 'The Height of Chutzpah' Tue Feb 25, 2:11 PM ET
To: National Desk
NEW YORK, Feb. 25 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) denounced People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) for its "Holocaust on Your Plate" project for trivializing the murder of six million Jews and called its appeal for approval by the Jewish community "outrageous, offensive and taking chutzpah to new heights."
Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director and a Holocaust survivor, issued the following statement:
The effort by PETA to compare the deliberate systematic murder of millions of Jews to the issue of animal rights is abhorrent. PETA's effort to seek "approval" for their "Holocaust on Your Plate" campaign is outrageous, offensive and takes chutzpah to new heights.
Rather than deepen our revulsion against what the Nazis did to the Jews, the project will undermine the struggle to understand the Holocaust and to find ways to make sure such catastrophes never happen again.
Abusive treatment of animals should be opposed, but cannot and must not be compared to the Holocaust. The uniqueness of human life is the moral underpinning for those who resisted the hatred of Nazis and others ready to commit genocide even today.
EDITORS NOTE: For more information on PETA, Holocaust Imagery and Animal Rights visit [url=http://www.adl.org]http://www.adl.org[/url] and to speak with an ADL expert call 212-885-7749.
The Anti-Defamation League, founded in 1913, is the world's leading organization fighting anti-Semitism through programs and services that counteract hatred, prejudice and bigotry.
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2003-02-26 00:00 | User Profile
Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director and a Holocaust survivor, issued the following statement:
The effort by PETA to compare the deliberate systematic murder of millions of Jews to the issue of animal rights is abhorrent. PETA's effort to seek "approval" for their "Holocaust on Your Plate" campaign is outrageous, offensive and takes chutzpah to new heights.
David Irving on survivor Foxman:
ââ¬ÅAbraham Foxman was born in 1940, and spent the war years living in comfort with a Catholic family (his parents also survived the war). Some ââ¬Ësurvivorââ¬Ëââ¬Â!
Foxman, chutzpah expert.
2003-02-26 00:51 | User Profile
Originally posted by wintermute@Feb 25 2003, 23:34 ** Those PETA folks can be real cards on the subject of oppression. I can't remember when, but Ingrid Newkirk made the notorious statement that "Six million people died in concentration camps, but six billion broiler chickens will die this year in slaughterhouses.".
Now this statement is very interesting to me, rhetorically. It's quite funny of course, but if you remove the term 'broiler', it's not really funny at all. Try repeating the quote both ways and you'll see. I'm still trying to figure out exactly how that works.
Wintermute**
You know what strikes me as bizarre? Leave "broiler" in and substitute Jews for people.
CALL THE ADL!
See, she couldn't get away with that statement if she used the holy Six Million Jews.
2003-02-26 00:59 | User Profile
Seq,
Thanks for digging that up. Thats the first time Ive heard that claim made about Foxman and when I read it I knew it to be a lie. I reckon that he is looking to ripoff the Europeans too, that is to make a little profit while he continues his noble crusade to rid the world of "antisemitism" and "bigotry."
2003-02-26 14:59 | User Profile
The ADL and other major Jewish organizations compared Serbia's actions in Kosovo to the Holocaust.
There were Jewish voices at the time who protested this dilution of the Holocaust name.
After all, if a (tragically) run-of-the-mill ethnic war in Kosovo was comparable to the Holocaust, then the Holocaust was, well, pretty run-of-the-mill.
They can't have it both ways, at least not forever. The Holocaust was either unique in human history, or it was just another instance of man's inhumanity to man. The ADL and others spent a good deal of the H-word currency on current political expenditures. I suspect that there's less in the kitty than they imagine.
Also, it's interesting that PETA should be the heavy here. Peta is a Jewish thing - its founder and guiding light is the very Jewish Peter Singer.
It just shows what happens when the goys take Jewish propaganda seriously and actually apply it, goy-like, equally to all, including Jews. Man, what a problem. On the one hand you need goys to run your subversive movements, but on the other you can't clue them in to what the real program lest your subversion see the light of day.
The next thing you know the Georgian and Russian and cadres will team up to drive all Jews from the Bolshevik Party. Oh, yeah, already happened. I forgot.
Walter
2003-02-26 16:33 | User Profile
Originally posted by Walter Yannis@Feb 26 2003, 14:59 **
Also, it's interesting that PETA should be the heavy here. Peta is a Jewish thing - its founder and guiding light is the very Jewish Peter Singer.
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Not only that, but here's the guy who came up with the ad in the National Post:
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"We're not denigrating the memory of the Jews," said Matt Prescott, PETA's youth outreach co-ordinator. "We're spotlighting what happened to Jews and others during the Holocaust and using it as a lesson."
The lesson: Chickens stuffed in cages suffer as much as the men, women and children who were tortured and executed in Hitler's concentration camps.
"It doesn't matter if you're a human, a chicken, a pig, a turkey, a cow, all animals suffer the same," Mr. Prescott said. "All animals feel pain and hunger and loneliness and fear. Every time you sit down to eat -- if you eat meat -- you're supporting a holocaust of the animals."
Mr. Prescott, who stressed that he is a Jew who lost relatives in the Holocaust, began the promotional tour on Monday in California, where organizers erected eight 60-square-foot placards that juxtapose piles of dead pig carcasses and crowded barnyard cages with tortured children peering out of barbed wire cells.
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Wow, every character in this drama claims Holocaustic™ ties.
2003-02-26 18:26 | User Profile
There's nothing at the PETA website documenting the ritual cruelty of Jewish "shechita" animal slaughter.PETA is essentially a kosher fraud.It shouldn't be surprising that they would use a hoax as a means to promote themselves.They of course have no problem documenting the ritual cruelty of "santaria" and "halal" animal slaughter.
2003-02-26 19:37 | User Profile
"C'mon down to Denny's for our Country Fried Steak... it's like a Holocaust on Your Plate!!"
:D A final solution for your breakfast doldrums!
2003-02-26 23:40 | User Profile
The whole incident is staged. An invented controversy to let the chosen, yet again, drum their favorite fairy tale into the heads of the masses.
2003-02-27 00:36 | User Profile
PETA is the ultimate forerunner of "intolerance" in society. This organization is only effective when it does some outlandish street theater. Then again, I could never understand why people would put animals over human beings. PETA shows it's saavy enough to swoon the media, but I wonder why the media doesn't report the fact that PETA is against people owning pets, for it's "slavery". When animals kill other animals for their meat, what does PETA say about that??
2003-02-27 07:20 | User Profile
PETA is awesome. It's like Seinfeld or The Nanny, but in real life. :P Each new episode is pure entertainment.
A PETA joke:
A man once moved into a neighborhood in beautiful suburban Massachusetts. One day he was out watering his garden, when his new neighbor, a PETA spokeswomyn of all things, came out to greet him. They talked about their kids, the neighborhood, and then the man asked her if she had any pets. The woman replied, "oh, we don't call them pets anymore, but animal companions." The man asked her about this, having never heard the expression before. His neighbor explained, "well, you don't really 'own' the animals you live with, because you can never own another being; they just stay with you and act as your companions." The man excused himself from the increasingly unpleasant conversation saying, "excuse me, I have to get back to watering my vegetable companions."
Drakmal
2003-02-27 14:14 | User Profile
Originally posted by Robbie@Feb 27 2003, 00:36 ** PETA is the ultimate forerunner of "intolerance" in society. This organization is only effective when it does some outlandish street theater. Then again, I could never understand why people would put animals over human beings. PETA shows it's saavy enough to swoon the media, but I wonder why the media doesn't report the fact that PETA is against people owning pets, for it's "slavery". When animals kill other animals for their meat, what does PETA say about that?? **
It is patently absurd, isn't it?
They insist that man is an animal and a product of his evolution like every other being (true), yet they would for no reason I've ever heard impose on man responsibilities that they would not impose on other animals.
Man evolved over three million years eating a hunter-gatherer diet that included a good deal of meat and fish, yet the PETA people are extreme vegetarians, and would indeed outlaw the consumption of meat in utter contravention to man's evolved dietary proclivities.
Under Singer's system of ethics, man has burdensome additional duties, but no corresponding additional rights of priveleges. It makes no sense whatever.
Singer, by the way, believes that beastiality is okay.
There was a time when I would have just dismissed PETA and their ilk as the lunatic fringe, but we live in a time when millions of people believe that the Boy Scouts should be forced to allow active homosexual men to take pubescent boys on weekend camping trips, and I just can't completely discount these lunatics taking positions of power.
Of course, they'll be going up against the beef and poultry industries, and I wish them luck in matching that sort of media clout. Also, Dr. Atkins has really impressed upon people the need for a high protein diet, so their work is cut out for them.
Walter
2003-02-27 14:32 | User Profile
**The whole incident is staged. An invented controversy to let the chosen, yet again, drum their favorite fairy tale into the heads of the masses. **
Brilliant analysis.
2003-02-27 21:01 | User Profile
Roger Bannister: > The whole incident is staged. An invented controversy to let the chosen, yet again, drum their favorite fairy tale into the heads of the masses.
mwdallas: > Brilliant analysis.
I agree. PETA is just another p.r. op which exploits animal suffering and does nothing to alleviate the terrible reality of it. Animals are needlessly mistreated. They deserve honest, dedicated spokesmen.
High civilizations [e.g., Britain before the fall] have always been in the forefront of such humane movements. Compassion for those who cannot speak for themselves is what separates us from the inhumanity of the third world and its savage santeria rituals.