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2003-02-24 20:00 | User Profile
[url=http://www.liesexposed.net/nfp/issue0112/blinn.htm]http://www.liesexposed.net/nfp/issue0112/blinn.htm[/url] Black Innovation? by V.S. Herrell
Recently, it has become popular to spread yet even more misinformation, this time regarding black inventions. While history has proven that blacks have failed to contribute anything significant to the building of civilization, campaigns are spreading across America attempting to credit black "inventors" with certain inventions. One such campaign is promoted by IBM who offers a poster of "Famous Black Inventions." Included on this poster are pictures of blacks and their supposed inventions - including the traffic light.
While the black Garrett A. Morgan did submit and receive a patent for a traffic signal in 1923, he did not invent the traffic light. The first "traffic light" was created in London in 1868, used to control the traffic of pedestrians and buggies. It was illuminated by gas using green and red colors, and was manually operated by policemen who turned a lever to reveal the appropriate color to the appropriate lane of traffic. Railroads were already using a lighting system as well. It was a police officer, William Potts, who first improved on the gas-light invention, which required a police officer to operate. William Potts recognized the need for something better when he observed that police officers were spending much of their time directing traffic after the invention of the automobile. He created an electric lighting system using red, amber, and green to control automobile traffic in Detroit. It was first used in 1920 and was the herald of the modern traffic light. William Potts was not black. Garrett A. Morgan's traffic light of 1923 did not contribute significantly to the traffic light of today, but resembled train switching lights already in use.
When reading these lists of so-called inventions, which are especially prevalent on the Internet, it becomes painfully obvious the lies contained within those lists. These lists are especially popular on college campuses. Afrocentrism is the term used to describe the attempts to cover-up the truth of history by spreading lies which claim that the blacks of Africa actually created civilization. This ridiculous theory is being taught in many schools and even universities. Many college graduates think they are being intelligent when they state that without H. A. Jackson, we wouldn't have a kitchen table, which he "invented" on October 6, 1896. This is how ridiculous these lists have become. I am sure that the kitchen table was invented centuries ago, although I don't believe the blacks in Africa were furnishing their mud huts with kitchen tables. H.A. Jackson may have submitted an idea for a patent which was a special modification of the kitchen table, but he certainly did not invent it, and neither did his patent have any significance on the civilization of the world. This is also true for W. R. Davis, Jr., who is credited with inventing the library table - in 1878!
What many are doing is obtaining patent lists of blacks and then attempting to pass them off as inventions. Most of what these people are doing is taking a certain invention, modifying it in some way, and then patenting that modification. In other words, they are not patenting original creations. Many are just outright lying. One list credits Sarah Boone, a female black, with the invention of the ironing board in 1892. White people were ironing clothes on ironing boards long before 1892.
J. Standard, another black, is credited with inventing the refrigerator in 1891. Yet, the truth of history reveals this is another lie. William Cullen demonstrated the first known artificial refrigeration at the University of Glasgow in 1748. In 1805, Oliver Evans, an American, designed the first refrigeration machine, and in 1844, John Gorrie used this design to build a refrigerator which he used to cool the air for his patients suffering from yellow fever. This all happened well before J. Standard ever submitted his patent. Furthermore, the concept of refrigeration was known by whites long before the first artificial devices were ever created.
The lists go on and on. One credits the invention of the two-stroke gasoline engine in 1950 and the internal combustion engine in 1958 to a black, Frederick M. Jones. The truth is that thermal engines were created as long ago as the 1600's by whites. Almost one hundred years before Frederick M. Jones, N. Otto developed the first successful four-stroke spark ignition gasoline engine in the 1870's. The same year, Dougald Clerk built the first successful two-stroke engine, which remains in use today. The first person to actually experiment with the internal combustion engine was a Dutchman, Christian Huygens, who did so in 1680. Most of the modern gasoline engines are descendants of Gottlieb Daimler's creation of 1885. For those who don't know this, Daimler was a German. Frederick M. Jones is also credited with the invention of the starter generator in 1949; however, electric ignitions had already been introduced in 1924. On the same note, another black, Andrew J. Beard, is credited with inventing the rotary engine in 1892. This is completely unfounded. The first practical rotary engine was created by a German, Felix Wankel, in 1927.
On a lighter note, Lydia O. Newman, a black, is credited with inventing the hairbrush in the late 1800's, despite the fact that white women have been brushing their hair for centuries. Burridge and Marshman supposedly invented the typewriter in 1885, despite the fact that Remington and Sons had already been selling the typewriter since 1874, and the original machine was created in 1868 by Christopher Latham Sholes. The initial typewriter did not have lowercase letters, but the shift key of the Number 2 typewriter, manufactured by Remington in 1878, allowed for lowercase letters. Other claims include riding saddles, which were supposedly invented by W. D. Davis in 1895. Again, this is claimed despite the fact that riding saddles were in use long before 1895, primarily by whites.
Another famous claim is that a black, Paul Williams, invented the helicopter. Again, a little research will prove this to be false. The fact is that no one person "invented" the helicopter. However, Leonardo da Vinci did pen down his own version of a helicopter long before Paul E. Williams was born. Furthermore, the first successful lift-off of a helicopter was accomplished in 1907 by a Frenchman, Paul Cornu, and Etienne Oehmichen, another Frenchman, was able to fly a helicopter 1 kilometer in 1924. This flight lasted 7 minutes and 40 seconds. From that moment, white engineers advanced and perfected the helicopter, and in 1937 the first practical helicopter was introduced. Not surprisingly, this first practical helicopter was a German creation - the Focke-Wulf Fw 61. Igor Sigorsky, a Russian, is credited with many innovations and record setting flights after this time which greatly enhanced helicopter engineering.
Perhaps one of the most ridiculous claims is that a black, W. A. Lavallette, invented the printing press, which he had patented in America. This was undoubtedly news to Gutenberg, who had already invented the printing press in 1445, long before America was even a country and almost fifty years before Columbus even landed.
The list goes on and on, and each and every so-called "invention" can be refuted in a similar manner, from the biscuit cutter (A. P. Ashbourne, 1875) to the "portable shield for infantry" (H. Spears, 1870). Anyone familiar with history should be aware that whites have been using devices to cut out biscuits long before A. P. Ashbourne, and I am sure that Roman soldiers from the first century never went into battle without a "portable shield for infantry." Michael Harney, another black, is credited with inventing the lantern. Why not credit him with inventing light or fire? Again, these claims are so ridiculous as to boggle the mind, yet many Americans blindly accept what they are being told as truth - white or black. What is worse, children are being taught these lies in schools supported by our tax money. There are also federally funded "black history" museums throughout the country spreading such lies.
Even the claim that the mulatto George Washington Carver invented peanut butter is false. The truth is that early civilizations often crushed peanuts into paste and Civil War soldiers ate "peanut porridge." As far as modern peanut butter is concerned, a St. Louis physician encouraged a food company owner to produce and sell peanut butter in 1890 to individuals who had difficulty chewing food. The physician had experimented with grinding peanuts and recognized peanut paste to be highly nutritious. Bayle, the owner of the food company, sold peanut butter for 6 cents per pound. Additionally, the first patent for peanut butter was obtained by John Harvey Kellogg, another physician experimenting with sources of protein for his patients. George Washington Carver didn't even begin his "peanut research" until 1903. Most of the so-called black inventors are mulattos like George Washington Carver, and do not deserve to be called black anyway.
Lies such as these are harmful not only to whites, but to blacks as well. Black children are armed with such flimsy lies which are easily torn down, and white children are taught to appreciate so-called "black culture" as being better than "white culture." White children are no longer allowed to be proud of their heritage, which is full of white men and women who have built nations, constructed civilizations, and who have contributed to a full history of art and science.
While many of the claims stated above are almost comedic in their absurdity, it is no laughing matter when lies such as these are spread. Some promoters of so-called "black inventions" go so far as to claim that blacks created, among other things, civilization, chess, medicine, paper and the alphabet. Liars use the fact that early white civilizations created some of these things on the continent of Africa. Thus, they state that "Africans" invented all of these. While the geological identification may be correct in some instances, the race is certainly not. It is a well-known fact of history that Egyptians, Romans, Greeks, and so on were white people who created their respective civilizations. Cleopatra was not black, and neither was Marc Antony. Both were very clearly white people who bore no resemblance to the blacks or mongrels we see in America today. Alexander the Great was a white man, though he may have visited the continent of Africa. The builders of the pyramids were certainly not kin to the mud-hut builders of the desert. Socrates, Hippocrates, Plato, and so on were also certainly not blacks. Even Ethiopia was once a nation of white people, ruled by white kings and queens, until only recently when the blacks took over. These are all facts of history and easily verifiable, especially when one has the ability to read the historians of the time, who were, once again, also white. Unfortunately, most of these great nations toppled in the wake of the plague of mongrelization, a story which has been repeated in every great nation founded by white men throughout history.
All of these attempts to change history and discredit white culture are merely the beginning when it comes to the deviousness of the mongrel mind. Martin Bernal of Cornell University attempted to rewrite history over a decade ago with his books: Black Athena The Afroasiatic Roots of Classical Civilization 1: The Fabrication of Ancient Greece 1785-1985 (London: Free Association Books. and New Brunswick: Rutgers University: 1987) and Black Athena 2: The Archaeological and Documentary Evidence (London, Free Association Books; New Brunswick: Rutgers University:1991).
Bernal's works attempted to credit black Africans with the creation of the Greek Civilization and therefore western civilization in general. The works were easily refuted by leading Classicists and experts, yet Bernal's "work" continues to garner unwarranted attention. Bernal's work consists of trying to prove an Egyptian-Phoenician influence on Greek Classical culture. Even if his interpretation of history were correct, which it is not, it is certainly not correct to state that the ancient Egyptian and Phoenician civilizations were created by Negroes. Bernal's books are simply extensions of an earlier work and an on-gong attempt to change the truth of history. In 1954, George G.M. James published a book entitled Stolen Legacy, which offers no proof for his claims of African influence on Greek philosophy. In one argument, he states:
"[The Greeks] did not possess the native ability essential to the development of philosophy ... the Greeks were not the authors of Greek philosophy, but the Black people of North Africa, the Egyptians."
Again, his claims that the Hellenists stole their philosophical ideas from the Africans are unfounded. Even more unfounded, however, is that the "Black people of North Africa" were the same creators of the Egyptian civilization. The builders of the pyramids and Egyptian rulers were most certainly white. Even Cleopatra was a Macedonian Greek, whose family went to extreme lengths to preserve their Greek racial line, even to the point of incest.
Two other works have been written refuting Bernal's claims. The first, Not Out of Africa by Mary R. Lefkowitz easily discredits Black Athena. More recently, Black Athena Revisited, Edited by Mary R. Lefkowitz and Guy MacLean Rogers, offers over 500 pages of proof written by numerous scholars against "Afrocentrist" claims of the black creation of civilization. One popular claim is that Aristotle and Alexander raided the library at Alexandria (which is in Egypt) and that was where they stole their ideas from the Egyptian civilization and that Aristotle was black. This, of course, is utterly ridiculous for several reasons. First of all, the library at Alexandria was not built until at least 25 years after Aristotle's death. Secondly, this library was assembled by a Greek student of Aristotle, Demetrius, and contained books written almost entirely in Greek. Thirdly, the city of Alexandria, though located in Egypt, was by no means an "Egyptian" city. It was the ruling center of the Ptolemies, the Macedonian Greek family of which Cleopatra was a member. It was even designed by a Greek architect. The name of the city was, of course, taken from the Greek ruler, Alexander the Great. Even the colony of white Judeans living in Alexandria, which numbered over 1,000,000, were a Greek-speaking people, as recorded in Philo. The Bible says, "No lie is of the truth ... "no liar has eternal life" and "the lake of fire was created for all liars and all who help make a lie."
2003-02-25 02:19 | User Profile
I am waiting for them to name the black who invented the computer. George Washington Carver was just an innovator. All he did was apply different standard chemical and techonological techniques to the peanut to get a variety of products, most of which were useless. Still, from what I read about him, Mr. Carver was a devout Christian and honorable man and would not have claimed credit for something that he didn't think was truly his idea.
2003-02-25 13:45 | User Profile
I've never heard any speculation that Carver was a mulatto. Booker T. as in Taliferro was. But I've always suspected that the great press that Carver got which puffed his mole hill scientific accomplishments into a mountain of sand were to reward a man whom the public perceived as a "Good N.".
The concept of "the good N." drove American race relations for 100's of years. Of course, there was always in the black community an abiding respect for the counterpoint of "the Good N.", "the Bad N.". The Bad N was always the dead elephant in the parlor of American race relations. Always there but something polite people didn't talk about.
Today the Bad N. reigns supreme. The Bad N. is now the dominant male in the American culture. White boys emulate him. White girls copulate with him then brag to their girlfriends about it. The Good N. is still there but more as a relic of a quainter time like a Lawrence Welk rerun from the 70's. Kinda corney and old fashioned. But certainly not as a role model.
2003-02-25 15:26 | User Profile
**The concept of "the good N." drove American race relations for 100's of years.
Today the Bad N. reigns supreme. The Bad N. is now the dominant male in the American culture.**
You open the door for Sidney Poitier, and Ol' Dirty Bastard walks in.
2003-02-25 18:19 | User Profile
Regardless of George Washington Carver's race, he was raised from infancy by whites (Moses and Susan Carver) and educated by whites, and his peers were whites. Carver's mother is known to have had a relationship with a white man who was Carver's brother's dad if not Carver's dad too (it's PC to claim Carver had a black father). If Carver were raised in black Africa, he would only have amounted to being a simple savage. And, just think, without Carver we wouldn't have peanut butter toothpaste.
2003-02-26 00:50 | User Profile
There's really not much more to be said about his topic except for the fact that the so-called Whites have actually created EVERY SINGLE innovation that has ever moved mankind forward. It's a fact, and as products of our society, the African Negroes, and even the Asians need to feel a pride in their own race, so they try to go back and find instances in which there was the odd scientific or crafty blood brother. It's just an effort on their parts, of course supported by the Jews, who have also added nothing. I just feel bad for them, because the truth has been staring them in the face for hundreds of years, and it must be tough for them to wake up in the morning knowing how inferior they truly are. They just keep proving it more and more every day, their dependence upon our race's achievements is a striking affront to their pride, which is really an animal instinct. Africa today would be the same as Africa 200 years ago had not the Europeans intervened. Same goes for the South American natives, American Indians, and also Orientals. Although as you know the Orientals were more self-progressing, albeit much slower. Why is there no love lost between the Orientals and the Africans or Latinos ? Sometimes the truth hurts.
2003-02-26 21:23 | User Profile
I once worked in a government office which, as with most government offices, had an office staff consisting primarily of ill-spoken do-nothing negroes. One woman, a secretary of some sort, had a big poster on the wall next to her desk, listing "African" inventions. It was quite a list. Seems blacks invented the computer chip, the airplane, and the cure for eczema.
Blacks invent nothing. At least Jews invent creative and subtle ways to destroy us.
2003-02-26 21:55 | User Profile
Throughout 6,000 years of recorded history, the Black African Negro has invented nothing. Not a written language, weaved cloth, a calendar, a plow, a road, a bridge, a railway, a ship, a system of measurement, or even the wheel. His only known means of transporting goods was on the top of his hard burry head. For shelter he never progressed beyond the common mud hut, the construction of which a beaver or muskrat is capable.(
2003-02-26 22:36 | User Profile
If we can highlight black inventors, why is it wrong to highlight black criminals? Which is more representative of African American culture?
2003-02-27 11:18 | User Profile
Originally posted by Ed Toner@Feb 26 2003, 15:55 Throughout 6,000 years of recorded history, the Black African Negro has invented nothing.
Not true Ed!!! Shaka Zulu removed part of the haft end of a standard Zulu spear to invent... er... a shorter spear.
2003-02-27 16:51 | User Profile
Originally posted by na Gaeil is gile@Feb 27 2003, 11:18 ** Shaka Zulu removed part of the haft end of a standard Zulu spear to invent... er... a shorter spear. **
Not true.
A celt visited the Zulu nation (snicker) many millennium ago and thought he could spare himself the fate of being dinner if he helped them improve their spear technology to have shorter spears, as well as the longer spears. However, the Zulus were unable to duplicate the procedure so they went ahead and ate him. And, to this day, any short spears chucked by Zulu warriors (snicker) is not the result of truncation but simply a result of a lack of quality control in stick selection.
2003-03-04 22:20 | User Profile
Of all the scientific hypotheses based on careful and long-term study, the one that has been hardest for the liberal/ left to swallow is that the races vary in intellectual ability. But swallow it they must, for the evidence is overwhelming that vary they do. Actually, this would have been known by any competant scientist for a long time. Natural selection uses variability to work its effect on species, whether in individuals, or groups. In other words no two groups will be exactly identical in a complex trait. If, as strongly evidenced, sub-Saharan populations have an intelligence level far below the arbitrarily chosen 100 for the broad scope of humanity, then it is small wonder that those groups failed to produce a written language or calendar. A group of iq of 100 seems to be neccessary to cultivate these cultural artifacts. Leftist political belief is that culture is responsible for all; they have been proved wrong on this as well as their other beliefs. Did they ever get anything right? I can't think of any.
2003-03-05 14:09 | User Profile
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2003-03-10 12:50 | User Profile
rban - "Many so-called Arab inventions such as the numeric system and aspects of mathematics actually came from India "
Proof of this?
2003-03-10 19:45 | User Profile
Originally posted by rban@Mar 10 2003, 01:49 ** Hindus from India by far rank as the most clever and innovative people on the planet. Many so-called Arab inventions such as the numeric system and aspects of mathematics actually came from India and were just transported by the Arab wanderers/middlemen. Without India, the West would not even have a civilization. We owe them a great debt, since they civilized us.
Hindus are the one and only true original Aryans. **
This is why India has advanced so far beyond Europe, The US, Japan, and even China.
Well, we know the truth. But for guys like rban, MacDonald's obsevation that the best decievers are those that are the most "self-deceptive" may hold true. Then again, he's probably posting to irritate or agitate, since his statement is comprised of a well known quanitity referred to as bull-shi*. But he is unintentionally funny on many on occasion. To us, that is. Not himself.
2003-03-10 20:04 | User Profile
Hindu's from India also squat and deficate anywhere they happen to be when the urge strikes them.
2003-03-12 16:15 | User Profile
Because you're as full of sh!t as the streets of Bombay.
2003-03-14 05:45 | User Profile
Originally posted by rban@Mar 12 2003, 14:40 ** Oh, for God's sake, people!!! How many times do I have to tell you...the Muslims and immigrant trash in India pull the country down!!
WHY DOESN"T ANYONE LISTEN TO ME? **
If they are so much smarter than whites, why don't they stop these animals from pulling their country down? They don't have a government bought off by Zionists like ours. A government full of politicians scared the jewish press will ruin their careers. A government run by cowards who kiss ass on non-whites because they are told to ... whites on their own, without jewish interference, seem to deal with trash quite well. What is the problem then, with the Hindus?
And rban, the Hindus and Indians in general, do have major problems when it comes to hygeine. To deny this is being disingenous in every sense of the word.
2003-03-29 16:13 | User Profile
rban - Why not provide links for the Saudia financiers and the Indian press?
I don't think there are enough Moslems in India to account for the amount of fecal material I have seen (and stepped into) in the streets of Bombay.
Is Bombay heavily populated by Moslems?
The most obvious involvement of Moslems in India is the Taj Mahal.
2003-04-02 08:31 | User Profile
Recently a jew who lives in a heavily hindu apartment complex told me that he can't stand "the smell of hindu," which gets on his clothes and won't come out. He also commented on the hindu's nororious lack of bathing. He stated that while he sometimes gets angry at "jigaboos," hindus are the only minority that he really "hates." His words, not mine.
2003-04-26 22:06 | User Profile
Originally posted by rban@Mar 12 2003, 08:40 ** Oh, for God's sake, people!!! How many times do I have to tell you...the Muslims and immigrant trash in India pull the country down!!
WHY DOESN"T ANYONE LISTEN TO ME? **
Muslims make up only 12% of the population of India, and as for "immigrants" I doubt those exist. Israel has its own "Muslim problem", yet the Jews have managed to more or less contain it, even if the measures they use are barabric and draconian. On the other hand, I see little difference between India which is 12% Muslim and Pakiland which is mostly Muslim. As a matter of fact, India's GDP-per-capita income is only 440$ higher than that of Pakistan (though both are horribly poor by 1st world standards). Why does the evil Muslim minority pull India down, and a numerically overwhelming "superior", "Aryan" Hindu majority cannot pull it up? Furthrmore, how do you explain the poverty of South India which is almost entirely Hindu in religion? Your arguments are worthy of 5 year old, rbanzhid.
2003-04-27 12:14 | User Profile
Mrs. Yannis and I had a few hours to kill the other day as we found ourselves downtown waiting for the kiddies to do an extracurricular thing. Anyhoo, we dropped into a nearby theater to see The Core, a sci-fi "B" movie with really outstanding special effects. A hole in the Ozone layer melts the Golden Gate Bridge and pulverizes Rome - Hollywood does that stuff very well.
But I digress. The PeeCee politics in this film were really over the top. Four of the world's top brains had to save the world: a blond blue-eyed American university professor with a swimmer's build (he gets the shiktsa in the end), an elderly French professor, a self-promoting (presumably) Jewish American named Zimsky (he looks Jewish, forget the name of the actor), and a wild-eyed American Negro genius living in the Utah (!) desert working feverishly on particle physics (I'm laughing as I write this, I just can't get over it).
Okay, dig this: the black guy is the real genius, who developed both the theory and the technology for a vehicle that can travel to the center of the Earth using a laser of particle beam sort of a thingy, **but Zimsky stole the work from him and made his career with it - ** a fact that Zimsky admits as the Negro genius is about to sacrifice his life for the mission.
I mean, can you freeking believe that? The missus was laughing her backside off - it was embarrassing. But what can you say? A Negro physicist saving the world who suffered b/c a wiley nebbish stole his work. If anybody sees this, please correct me if I'm wrong, but Zimsky had to be IP, right? Hollywood often portrays our African bretheren as implausibly intelligent (the recent weak remake of Tarkovsky's sci-fi classic also had a black female physicist), but a nebbish stealing his work and making a career of it? How are we to understand that?
Zimsky dies a martyr too, by the way, as does the Frenchie.
The Aryan college professor and the cute little shiktsa Shuttle pilot make it back safely after sparks flew between them, but marriage and children seemed excluded. Their final words to each other seem to indicate that their careers must come first. She said something like "NASA needs great minds like yours" to which he replied touchingly "but, so do my students!" Man. I mean, laying it on a bit thick, no?
This film felt eerily like one of those 1950's Soviet films about young love sacrificed to duty, lives sacrificed for missions. It really is socialist realism, only done to the nines.
I like our Reform branch of IP much better than the Orthodox Soviet variety, don't you? The special effects are so much better.
Walter
2003-04-28 00:53 | User Profile
*Originally posted by rban:
Roy Batty, let me turn the question around for you. You asked, if Hindus were so smart why don't they stop the Muslim anmals from pulling the country down? Well, Roy, if you whites boys are so smart, why don't you stop blacks & Hispanics from pulling your country down?*
Though Hispanic and African minorities certainly do their share to destroy America's social infrastructure and Western culture, America is still:
The richest country on the planet
The most powerful country on the planet.
India is one of the world's 50 poorest nations and the vast majority of "superior", "Aryan" Hindus live in poverty and sqaullor that Americans cannot even begin to imagine.
*I will continue to support diversity and huge immigration into AMerica until all Americans work with me to eliminate the Muslim menace in India. *
Looks like they must first eliminate the Indian menace in America- hateful Indian supremacist morons like you.
*But if you people insist on arguing with me about this and claiming thta India's mess is the Hindus' fault then I will claim that blacks & Hispanics are great folks, and America's problems are your fault. See what I mean? What you do against my people, I will do the same against you. *
Hahahaha, comparing America's problemss to India's problems-hilarious. Need I remind you that America is the world's wealthiest country with one of the world's highest living standards, while India epitomizes the filth, squallor and superstition found throughout the turd world? Most Indians live in conditons so primitive, so utterly squallid that American's cannot even begin to imagine them.
Furthermore, whereas white nationalists and paleoconservatives can always cite abundant evidence to support the claims regarding the negative impact of minorities and immigrants on America (and elsewhere), you have yet to cite a single piece of evidence to support your assertions that evil Muslims are at the root of India's horrendous socioeconimic status. Do you ever stop to think how utterly idiotic and pathetic your arguments sound to a rational, intelligent person? Let's recap:
Muslims, who compose 12% of the population of India are responsible for the fact that the vast majority of India's population (including Hindus, who are supposedly superior to veryone else) live in poverty so desperate that Westerners cannot even begin to imagine it.
"Aryan" Hindus who are (supposedly) superior to everyone else cannot stop this Muslim menace.
Muslims are responsible for the filth, squallor and poverty in Southern India, where they don't exist.
and so on, and so forth...
You refuse to cite any evidece whatsoever for these utterly hilarious and outlandish (to put it mildly) claims, but simply beg us to accept them as given. Well, excuse my skepticism, but I am more inclined to conclude that India's myriad of problems (if anything, insurmountale compared to those of the West) are due to the following factors:
Primitive, backward, barbaric Hindu culture.
Corrupt government and badly managed socialist economy
Low average IQ
Idiots like you.
Doesn't it suck when the sword cuts both ways?
It doesn't: one cannot compare dirt poor India to the world's wealthiest country. See above.
Talk to you later, rbanowitz.
2003-04-28 02:43 | User Profile
Originally posted by Walter Yannis@Apr 27 2003, 05:14 ** I like our Reform branch of IP much better than the Orthodox Soviet variety, don't you? The special effects are so much better. **
But the amount of bullshit is so much greater, although for a enlightened person like you that may represent a form of entertainment. As much as the Soviets try to get rid of some essential human qualities, like greed and self-interest (and nationalism), they still portrayed geniuses in a truer fashion. I am still suprised how one can avoid audible chuckling when the prerequisite black genius is cast, often surrounding by cowardly dumb whites. For some reason one movie popped up in my memory, "The Panic Room", possessing the noble smart black as one of the main characters, with his humanity and intelligence so impressing the viewer that they should overlook that he was a robber.
2003-04-28 06:26 | User Profile
Originally posted by rban@Apr 27 2003, 08:21 ** I will continue to support diversity and huge immigration into AMerica until all Americans work with me to eliminate the Muslim menace in India. But if you people insist on arguing with me about this and claiming thta India's mess is the Hindus' fault then I will claim that blacks & Hispanics are great folks, and America's problems are your fault. See what I mean? What you do against my people, I will do the same against you. **
OH NO! A bored jewish college student pretending to be a confused, occasionally-coherent English hinduphile is conspiring against us! (crawl) Pleeease don't whip us massah, we'll be reeel good from now on...!
2003-04-28 15:05 | User Profile
Prodigal Son, my, my, what a dirty little Muslim lover you are.
I am no "Muslim lover" though, to be fair, I much prefer most Muslims to Hindu supremacists like you. My name is Joseph, and I am a Russian; anyone who's posted on The Phora 2.0 within the last month can confirm this. Religion-wise, I am an agnostic.
Barabric & backward Hindu culture?
Yes. Though I find both Islam and Hinduism to be backward religions (however, to be fair, neither can match the rabid hatefulness of Judaism), Hinduism clearly takes the cake when it comes to sheer inferiority.
Some Hindu religious practices:
Sharing milk with "holy rats."
[url=http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_706422.html?menu=]Drinking goat blood.[/url]
[url=http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_657108.html?menu=]Burying children alive.[/url]
[url=http://www.friesian.com/gods.htm]Strangling travelers and sacrificing them to Kali[/url]
[url=http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/08/07/1028157964815.html]Burning widows alive.[/url]
A superior relgion indeed...
You piece of Islamic sht, who do you think you're fooling, pretending to be white?*
I am not Islamic, and I am white.
I don't have a "hatred for Hindus". As for the fact that I refuse to blame Muslims for India's mess, it only proves that I am capable of rational thought, unlike you.
America is the richest & most powerful country because there are Hindus in America.
No. America became the richest and most powerful country in the world in 1945, long before there was a single Hindu on US soil.
I don't love Muslims, but as I said before, I prefer most of them to scum like you.
Someday, PS, we the freedom loving progressive people of the world will clean up the mess in India...and America. Your filthy followers of the barbaric desert cult will not fare well at that time, I fear.
Well, it would be quite unfortunate for Muslims if that were ever to happen (it won't).
Low average IQ,...haha...I guess that's why we Hindus dominate Silicon Valley and are throwing white trash programmers out of work every single day in their own country!
Of course there is a few smart people in India (out of a population of more than 1 billion there has to be). However, claiming that every Hindu is as intelligent as some brilliant programmers is rather ridiculous, much like claiming that every white is as intelligent as Bill Gates. The fact of the matter is, the average IQ in India is 81, 9 points below the world average:
"The average of the four data sets gives an IQ of 81 for India."
--IQ and the Wealth of Nations by Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanahanen, p. 208, par 3.
The fact that most of India's population has an IQ that's within ten points of borderline retardation might help explain why India is such a shithole (though other factors are no doubt involved as well). A couple of brilliant programmers won't change this. If everyone in India was as brilliant as a few programmers, then it would be the richest country in the world. You wouldn't exist (having never been born or euthanized shortly after birth). But, the average IQ in India is too low for it to ever even become industrialized, much less 1st world.
Within ten years every single profession will be dominated by Hindus.
Dream on.
You're not Aryan; you're an Australoid-Dravidian mongrel without a drop of Aryan blood in you. As a matter of fact, the most Aryan thing about you is the bastardized Sanskrit dialect you speak.
You should see a psychiatrist for that schitzophrenia.
Reply soon, rbanowitz!
Shalom!
P.S. I would appreciate it if in your replies to my messages you would actually address the points I make, instead of simply insulting me and making humorous predictions about the future.
P.P.S. If you stop and concede your all-too-obvious inferiority right now, I may decide to be merciful and spare you further humiliation. Otherwise, prepare to get your ass kicked all the way back to the Calcutta slum you crawled out of!
2003-04-28 20:16 | User Profile
Prodigal, rban is a troll. Look at his post at Batty up there. Batty hasn't posted here in a month, so I guess rban feels it's safe to ask him questions. I posted some of those links you have listed in other threads. They are reality. Rban is fantasy. It's fun to see his rants on slavs, whites in general, and then contrast his claims with the reality of the dung heap that is most of India. Rban is either a jew troll, or a Hindu with an incredible inferiority complex.
2003-04-28 20:56 | User Profile
Originally posted by Roger Bannister@Apr 28 2003, 14:16 ** Prodigal, rban is a troll. **
Destroying trolls is one of my many hobbies :D
:gun: :gun: :gun:
2003-04-28 21:10 | User Profile
PS you are a subhuman piece of sht. I do nt have time right now but I will fire back and destroy you, and prove thta you are no Russian but an enemy of Russia and other real white nations. *
No, I am an ethnic Russian. As I said before, anyone who's visited the Phora lately can vouch for this.
*Let me leave you for now with a thought :
JAI HIND (Victory to India)*
Whatever.
BTW your ananova links are BS, this website is like the National Enquirer/tabloid of cyberspace, and everyone knows it.
Do you honestly mean to tell me that customs like suttee and thugism are not part of Hinduism?
2003-04-29 04:48 | User Profile
Originally posted by rban@Apr 28 2003, 22:26 ** ... this world needs more Hindu supremacists, because whites, Muslims, and Chinks all insult India and Hinduism and are disrespectful. Faced with such hatred and animosity, there is no choice but to fanatically proclaim Hindu supremacy and dream of exterminating everyone who is not Hindu...which is what I do all the time. All are our enemies ... and the sooner we realize this the better.
There is not a single group on the planet that is as maligned as Hindus. Hindus have the right to hate everyone because all are against us...and for no good reason,...we are peaceful, not terrorists like Muslims or aggressive like Chinese, and in return for this good behaviour we get kicked in the teeth by the likes of PS!!
Look up www.hinduunity.org . You will see how angry we are. And eventually you will feel our rage. **
Reads very jewish. Same complaints mouthed by jews, which they fed to blacks. But it comes off as stupid as a street begging Indian. Tough call. Hmmm. Rban calls the other people here racist?
p.s. By all means go to the link rban has provided. Take a look at the 'kahane.org' link. Figures.
2003-05-01 16:10 | User Profile
*PS, now here is the reason I know you are no Russian, or if you are, then a traitorous scoundrel of a Russian:
Russia is facing Islamic terrorists daily, with bombings in Moscow and horrific antiRussian massacres in Chechnya.*
Yes. As I said before, I am no fan of Muslims. However, when an annoying, retarded little supremacist troll comes up here spewing bullshit about how Hindus are supposedly "superior" to Russians, at the same time blaming all of India's gargantuan problems on a relatively powerfless minority, you bet I am going to completely deconstruct his argument!
No. If the same fanatics who committ terrorist acts against the US did this to Russia, then the US would support the Russian war on Chechen terorism. The Us doesn't. Obviously another element is involved here.
*Russia and India have always been key strategic allies, and this relationship continues. Both Russia and India face Muslim terrorism within their countries, and both face the problem of being lectured to by the US about alleged 'human rights abuses' in their legitimate struggles against Islamic terrorism. *
When did the US ever lecture India about human rights abuses?
So you cannot possibly be a Russian nationalist, because if you were such a creature you would love India and Hindus and recognize them as you only allies against Muslims.
Supremacist Australoid-Dravidian mongrels like you who see my people as infeiro are no allies of mine.,
I have nothing against Pakistan; it has a right to exist as a country.
The great Russian nationalist, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, loves India and Hindus and feels this way...here is the evidence:
"The great Russian nationalist Vladimit Zhirinovsky" is a self-hating Jew with serious psychological problems.
All Russian patriots must love Hindus and support India.
No.
But then again, I do not think you are Russian at all...you've got to be a Muslim posing as a russkie. Or at the worst, you are a Russian brainwashed and recruited by the CIA to betray your own country. Either way, you are the enemy of Russia.
I am no Muslim. And unlike cerain people I haven't been brainwashed by the CIA to see Zionist supremacism as some kind of ally.
Madrussian is also the same.
No.
2003-05-02 04:43 | User Profile
churban,
speaking of questioning, your sanity was recently questioned and you were unanimously voted to be insane :(
2003-05-02 16:16 | User Profile
Originally posted by rban@May 2 2003, 07:17 **Hmmmm....somehow I think this does not meet the criteria of frre & fair trial by jury. **
Unfortunately we couldn't find a jury of your 'peers'. You are truly peerless Rban.