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2003-02-22 02:13 | User Profile
The Wiener Nation Book
more from the Neocon Savage
The Savage Nation: Saving America from the Liberal Assault on Our Borders, Language and Culture -- by Michael Savage; Hardcover Buy new: $14.99
[url=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0785263535/]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0785263535/[/url]
boring diatribe, February 15, 2003 Reviewer: Linda Gomez from San Francisco, Calif I listen to MS's whinning (his real name is Weiner). Savage is his stage name. I didn't need to read the book, since reviewers say that the book is verbatim from the radio show. Mr. Savage doesn't admit to many things, among them his age he claims 39 but is actually 60, how vain!). He appears to be an unhappy, street saavy NY Jew(though he seldom if ever admits it) who has little patience defending his position to callers who want to debate him. He often cuts them off, outshouts anyone who tries to engage him in meaningful debate. The point is often lost because he is a master at deceiving his audience using buzz words and trigger points to dupe his listeners--much like a snakeoil salesman --who bob and weave through traffic at dinner time and often don't live in diverse areas of our country. He often calls in sick (he probably makes himself sick), comes across as a phony corporate media hate mongher, exploits,and twists current events to their satisfaction. He is good at using words to drive wedges instead of bridging the 2 sides that are demonized by a man who has benefitted by the same tolerance that he has hammers on about the left. He often claims he was the first to pen the republican credo: compassionate conservatism -- He claims alot of things, and he is funny -but only sometimes!
Regarding Savage's inaccuracies, his book actually has a chapter entitled, "If the NAACP Had Existed During World War II." The NAACP was founded in 1909!!
Savage nation?, February 3, 2003 Reviewer: gonzoid (see more about me) from Detroit, MI United States His name is Micheal Wiener. He used to be on the companion station KGO in SF, but got tossed for his vitriol. Then he went through his name change and ended up on KSFO. And "Wiener Nation" just wouldn't cut it. 8-)
"Regarding Savage's inaccuracies, his book actually has a chapter entitled, "If the NAACP Had Existed During World War II." The NAACP was founded in 1909!!..."
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2003-02-23 05:18 | User Profile
Weiner's age strategies are very commendable. Better yet is just not to give out your age.
The Savage Nation sight has a pretty good message about immigration, affirmative action, and taxes. The guy is doing a lot of good.
2003-02-23 05:29 | User Profile
**The Savage Nation sight has a pretty good message about immigration, affirmative action, and taxes. The guy is doing a lot of good. **
Doesn't make up for the fact that he sucks on foreign aid and interventionism. Weiner's the biggest Israel-Firster on syndicated talk radio today.
Domestically, he ain't the sharpest tool in the shed, either. Weiner backed McStain on campaign finance "reform," which neutered the lobbying abilities of 501c4 organizations supported by small contribustions from average little people like you and me. Gun Owners of America, the NRA and just about every other grassroots right-wing lobbying organization bitterly opposed this legislation and have vowed to take it to SCOTUS. And 'Savage' backed it.
2003-02-23 05:58 | User Profile
I loved the Michael Savage Show when he first came on in my City, but after Sep. 11 he went PC and Neocon! I was greatly upset!!
As I said on the other threads...
I used to like the Michael Savage Show. I fear he has now proven that he is a Neocon! I recall He used to come close to what might be called a Euro-America Ethnic Nationism on his show. He used to talk about protecting White Americans, but that has gone away. After 9-11 he started a short, but sickening time of mindless W. Jorge Bush loving. Now He is still attacking Jorge, but the Ethnic Nationism is gone. The stuff on his site is all Horowitz style Neocon. I fear he is nothing more than wild and ranting David Horowitz. I cant stand him any more.
from his site: "Borders, Language, Culture... This applies to America and to all other nations. As such, Isreal has a right to clearly defend borders, her national lanuage, which is Hewbrew, and a Jewish Culture..."
But what of Americas "Borders, Language, Culture"? English is our national lanuage. And our Culture is European.
But What does Michael Savage say?
A caller to the Savage Nation show said that the Los Vegas government was now under the control of "Hispanics". Savage said he "I do not care if they are Tibetans, so long as they are Americans." I wonder how he would feel if it was Arabs?
Note what is said of America's Culture. This could have been written by David Horowitz or Norman Podhoretz.
Michael Savage founded The Paul Revere Society (PRS). With a crisis of leadership threatening the United States, PRS stands for the reassertion of our borders, our language, and our culture.
Some say that the borders are arbitrary, English is only one of many languages in our new "Multicultural America," and that we share no common history or values. We believe in the Sovereignty of our Nation. That English is our national "glue." And that we all do share in the pillars of the Bible, the U.S. Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. These documents and what they stand for are our common cultural heritage.
The Paul Revere Society (PRS) will assert the values inherent in these pillars of freedom. We will seek to educate the citizenry about our nation's freedoms.
"Sertorius: Thanks for your Reply. Very true: I can only listen to this lunatic for only a few minutes. Before 9-11 Michael Savage sounded pretty good a good part of the time. At that time Michael Savage was positioning himself like some kind of 'White Nationalist' and he attacked Mexicans and Blacks every day. As of late Michael Savage seems to be acting more like a David Horowitz or Norman Podhoretz Neo-Con. Also, Michael Savage has an unhealthy fixation with Sex in Cars, much like FrontPageMag.com boy Jamie Glazov seems to have some unhealthy fixation with genitalia."
I still do not understand why he went soft after Sep. 11? He saw a chance to join his Neocon bothers?
2003-02-23 06:14 | User Profile
I still do not understand why he went soft after Sep. 11?
I have no doubt that he's been neocon all along. It's just that immigration is no longer a paleo-fringe issue. The Aztlaners scare the pants off the Zionists, so immigration is now a "respectable" issue for establishment (read neocon) conservatism.
FWIW, Reuben Obermeister aka Roy Masters is the money behind TalkRadioNetwork, the network that carries Savage. Perhaps Obermeister's politics (whatever they may be) hold sway over Savage's limits of permissible dissent. I have also heard that there is some connection between Masters and Joeseph Farah/WorldNetDaily. Something about Masters inheriting a ranch he lets WND work out of that he got from John Wayne. Both operate out of Southern Oregon. TRN also carries Jeff Rense late at nights, so it seems he can overlook the Zionist agenda in Rense's case because he's just plain good for the bottom line, politics be damned. Either that or Rense is the token voice of dissent so Masters can hold him up as an example that TRN is "fair and balanced."
TRN used to carry Israel-Firster Roger Fredinburg, and still carries Rusty Humphries, Lars Larson and Dick Marcinko.
Roy Masters is also the guru behind the New Age organization called the Foundation of Human Understanding.
[url=http://www.watchman.org/cults/roymstrs.htm]Roy Masters: Foundation of Human Understanding[/url]
2003-02-23 06:26 | User Profile
Centinel,
Yes very True! I have no doubt that he's been neocon all along... immigration is no longer a paleo-fringe issue.
But Mr. Wiener went soft on immigration after sep. 11. He was openly attacking non-White immigration, talking like he had been reading David Duke's works. He was trying to pass himself off as a "White Nationalist" or some such thing. He used the term "White America" and such like. He is a sickening Neocon.
A caller to the Savage Nation show said that the Los Vegas government was now under the control of "Hispanics". Savage said he "I do not care if they are Tibetans, so long as they are Americans."
Before Sep. 11 he was attacking the Aztlaners and would gone nuts and done a long anti-"Wetback"/Aztlaner/Mexicans rant if a caller had told him that.
Protecting Isreal and Attacking the Arabs is all he does now!
2003-02-23 06:37 | User Profile
Before Sep. 11 he was attacking the Aztlaners and would gone nuts and done a long anti-"Wetback"/Aztlaner/Mexicans rant if a caller had told him that.
All I can say, Faust, is mainstream success, more radio stations, book deals and the money that comes with it seem to require some neutering in the name of political correctness.
I'm sure Savage will be beating the immigration drum soon enough, especially if the anti-Zionist Hispanic radicals start picking up some steam. For right now, Savage is going after the 'approved targets' of his paymasters in the priority they deem important, which seems to be painting the peace movement and anyone else opposed to invading Iraq with a broad brush as the "liberal left" and un-American traitors.
2003-02-23 19:27 | User Profile
I read Savage's book and was unimpressed. Savage (Wiener) is a typical liberal jew breathless at the prospect of the US vanquishing israels foes (or imagined, potential foes) and making the world safe for idf baby killers to do their thing unimpeded. Iraq is undoubtedly just the first in a coming succession of wars to make the world safe for the jewish state.
Although he admittedly makes a few good points, they are in my opinion, simply hollow words intended to impress the goy and make his other arguments more palatable. I wish I had heard of Savage prior to the talkshow tour intended to promote his wares. However, I hadn't heard of him, but the book sounded interesting so I bought it. A real waste of money.
2003-02-28 05:03 | User Profile
I still do not understand why he went soft after Sep. 11?
He didn't go soft, he dropped the mask. He's a Zionist Jew! Hel-LO? Lots of landsmen appeared to be genuinely conservative....before 9/11!
Horowitz had written "Hating Whitey", Rob Radosh was exposing fellow travellers, Don Feder was bashing gays and all the rest of them had Clinton to kick around like a 12-year-old Palestinian 'military prisoner'. They all seemed halfway okay....then.
But no sooner did those passenger jets bisect the Twin Towers than the yehudi-horns re-emerged on these folks' heads. Disaster had once more presented the Jews with a golden opportunity for revenge and plunder, the two items on the menu they can't stay away from.
2003-02-28 06:05 | User Profile
Originally posted by Centinel@Feb 23 2003, 05:29 ** > **The Savage Nation sight has a pretty good message about immigration, affirmative action, and taxes. The guy is doing a lot of good. **
Doesn't make up for the fact that he sucks on foreign aid and interventionism. Weiner's the biggest Israel-Firster on syndicated talk radio today.
Domestically, he ain't the sharpest tool in the shed, either. Weiner backed McStain on campaign finance "reform," which neutered the lobbying abilities of 501c4 organizations supported by small contribustions from average little people like you and me. Gun Owners of America, the NRA and just about every other grassroots right-wing lobbying organization bitterly opposed this legislation and have vowed to take it to SCOTUS. And 'Savage' backed it. **
He's part of the Sanhedrin's policy of covering the WN eventuality by setting up IP structures to channel white resentment into safe, IP-friendly directions.
If the war goes badly and/or if the economy tanks, guys like Savage (Weiner) the Sanhedrin will bring Savage (Weiner) and his co-travellers to the fore in the media.
He and his IP ilk will help us win a few battles in order to ensure that we lose the war.
Walter
2003-02-28 08:24 | User Profile
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