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Thread ID: 5154 | Posts: 10 | Started: 2003-02-22
2003-02-22 02:02 | User Profile
From: J.R. Colson (Franco) Iraq: big news!
Zounds! Significant -- actually, more-than-significant -- info has surfaced that the major players in the let's-bomb-Iraq movement have been pushing for war against Iraq for a long time, long before Sept. 11, 2001. We have said that Sept. 11 was a smokescreen used for justifying attacking Iraq, and this letter seems to verify it:
**January 26, 1998 ... We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Husseinââ¬â¢s regime from power. ... The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing. In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power. That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy. Sincerely, Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitage William J. Bennett Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W. Rodman Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick [url=http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm]http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclin...intonletter.htm[/url] **
Here's text about the letter, from another source:
** 1998 Rumsfeld & Wolfowitz Iraq War Memo To Clinton The Origins of the Bush Iraq War Plan By Jason Leopold CounterPunch.org 2-20-3
"In 1998, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz were working in the private sector. Both were involved with the right-wing think tank Project for a New American Century, which was established in 1997 by William Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard, to promote global leadership and dictate American foreign policy.....Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz wrote to Clinton urging him to use military force against Iraq and remove Hussein from power because the country posed a threat to the United States due to its alleged ability to develop weapons of mass destruction. The Jan 26, 1998 letter sent to Clinton from the Project for the New American Century said a war with Iraq should be initiated even if the United States could not muster support from its allies in the United Nations. Kristol also signed the letter.."We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding..." [url=http://www.rense.com/general35/warmem.htm]http://www.rense.com/general35/warmem.htm[/url] **
Kindly note that Wolfowitz, Kristol, Abrams and many of the other signers of that letter are "right-wing Jews," Jews by race. It is right-wing Jews who lead the Zionist movement in the West. Their Jewish kin to the left of them lead left-wing, Marxist movements, e.g. the student radical movement (Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin) and the feminist movement (Bella Abzug, Betty Friedan, Andrea Dworkin. et al.). All are Jews by DNA, not simply "religion." (Converts to Judaism-the-religion are rare and not considered legit by the Orthodox).
So much for the claim that "only left-wing Jews are a problem." Left-wing or right-wing, Jews are trouble.
Name the Jew. Name the race. Let them call you a hater.
2003-02-25 02:03 | User Profile
Avalanche, I have been resisting the thought that Sept. 11th and the other events leading to this war have been planned. One big thing that leads me to believe these events have been planned is that there have been no other terrorist attacks in this country ( I take that back, one or two may have been attempted) since Sept. 11th. I think it very strange that fanactical Arabs have not made a number of attacks if they felt that they were truly at war with this country, after all we are the Great Satan. It would be easly to send a suicide bomber into a shopping mall, for instance. If bin Laden or Saddam were truly at war with us all this time I would have thought that this country would be as dangerous to live in as Israel.
2003-02-25 05:14 | User Profile
From: RENSE.COM
911 Top 500 Questions New - Updated
The Hijackers 51. Where did the photos of all 19 hijackers come from? 52. How were all hijackers identified just 2 days after the attack? 53. Why did all 19 names not appear on the passenger list 2 days after the hijacker list was released? 54. Why do none of the names appear on the passenger lists UA and AA gave to CNN? 56. Why did the FBI ignore Bin Laden's family, who left the United States without further investigation (and why were they allowed to fly out on September 12, when ALL other planes were grounded?)) 57. What about the 7 or 9 supposed hijackers who are still alive? 58. Was there a reason to change the list of the original 19 hijackers?
George W. Bush 4. When exactly did Bush learn about the first crash into the WTC? 6. Why didn't he interrupt his school meeting as soon as he learned of the first plane crash? 20. Why did Bush continue to sit in that classroom reading to children when he should have been conferring with his advisors? 22. Given all the information sources available to the POTUS and his staff how could his people not have known the kind of plane involved? 23. Why didn't they know at this point, as did the FAA and NORAD, that aircraft were hijacked? The Batallion Chief in the 9/11 video was seen and heard asking for military backup immediately after the building was hit. 24.How come the NYFD knew it was terrorism right away but the POTUS and his aides just calmly went about their business?
Warnings 1. When did Vladimir Putin warn the CIA about a possible terrorist attack and what was their reaction? 8. When did Italian Deputy Prime Minister Gianfranco Fini inform the CIA about a possible attack on the American president "with the use of an airplane"? What was their reaction? 9. When did President Mubarak, Egypt, inform the CIA about a possible attack on America with an "airplane stuffed with explosives"? What was their reaction? 13. The London Times reported that someone from the FAA warned Salman Rushdie not to travel to the United States on September 3rd? If this is true, who was it? 21. Why was Colonel William M. Dietrick , Commander Defense Language Institute in Garrison, Monterey on high alert on September 10? 23. Did Jean-Louis Bruguiere, French anti-terrorism, inform the CIA on September 10 about a possible terrorist attack? If so, what was their reaction? 28. When did Dr. August Hanning , President BND (Bundesnachrichtendienst Germany) inform the CIA that "Middle Eastern terrorists are 'planning to hijack commercial aircraft ?" What was their reaction?
Defense Alerts and Movements 5. Why was Air Force Lt. Col. Vic Warzinski, another Pentagon spokesman, so sure on September 11 that aircraft was coming your way? 6. What did the D.C. Air National Guard in Washington do on September 11? 7. Can he explain what those 3 fighters did from 9:40AM until 9:55AM when they finally turned towards Flight 93 and were 60 miles out at 10:06am? 8. Can he explain why Air Traffic Controllers in a Nashua Telegraph article did report an F-16 was circling Flight 93 and was in visual range at the time of crash? 9. Can he confirm a witness report that National Guard F-16's have been at Hancock field in Syracuse NY in the air early that morning before 9AM? 11. What was the official reason that fighters of the 305th Air Wing, McGuire Air Force Base, NJ did not intercept the 2nd hijacked plane in NYC? This would have been possible within 7 minutes after 8:48 AM 12. Why did none of the 459th Aircraft Squadron (Andrews AFB) fighters intercept the plane which crashed into the Pentagon? Andrews AFB is 10 miles from Washington DC. 16. Many eye-witnesses think that the plane in Pennsylvania was shot down. What is the scientific explanation why the magazine of the airplane was found many miles away?
The WTC Collapse 1. What does Nicholas Scoppetta of FDNY know about the latest reports of the WTC destruction? 2. Can he explain why many witnesses saw and heard more than two explosions in the WTC? 3. Can he explain why both Twin Towers and Building 7 collapsed in that way? 4. Can he explain why a gas tank was in Building 7? 5. Can he explain why there were no passengers in the subway under the WTC? 6. Can he explain why there was no guard at the gold reservoir under the WTC? 7. Why did Dr. Jeffrey P. Koplan, Director CDC prepare, as CNN reported, emergency-response teams on September 11 at 11:16 PM?
Miscellaneous 18. Why no photos or videos of the Pentagon plane? And there's not a single credible frame of film or second of video of this? Also, why hasn't a similar flight path graphic ever been published? 19. Why didn't the Secret Service hustle Dubya out of the classroom a half-second after Andy Card told him, "Mr. President, the nation is under attack"? 20. Why did they leave him exposed to danger for two and a half minutes in the classroom and another half-hour in the school before he returned to the relative safety of Air Force One? 24. How did they find a passport that just "happens" to belong to one of the hijackers in the WTC rubble and they can't locate even ONE flight recorder? 29. Why did the US pull the plug on Muslim websites Monday September 10, 2001? 30. Why did the Saudi bin-Laden-group have a website with a PRE-SET expiration date of Sept. 11, 2001?31. Why were the bin Ladens flown out of the U.S. on private jets the day after the 9/11 attacks? 32. Why did Cheney say that everyone in the White House started taking Cipro on September 12 when the first anthrax letter wasn't postmarked until September 18.
2003-02-25 05:29 | User Profile
It's worth looking into, but it's depressing too! Here's where to start your investigations:
[url=http://www.public-action.com/]http://www.public-action.com/[/url] (Carol Valentine's site)
[url=http://whatreallyhappened.com/govknow.html]http://whatreallyhappened.com/govknow.html[/url] (What Did the Government Know and When Did it Know it?)
[url=http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/02_11_02_lucy.html]http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/...11_02_lucy.html[/url] (A Timeline Surrounding September 11th - If CIA and the Government Weren't Involved in the September 11 Attacks What Were They Doing?)
[url=http://serendipity.magnet.ch/wtc.html]http://serendipity.magnet.ch/wtc.html[/url] (The World Trade Center Demolition and the So-Called War on Terrorism)
[url=http://www.public-action.com/911/robotplane.html]http://www.public-action.com/911/robotplane.html[/url] (Operation 911: No Suicide Pilots)
[url=http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm]http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pen.../erreurs_en.htm[/url] (Hunt the Boeing)
[url=http://www.rense.com/general29/pepnt.htm]http://www.rense.com/general29/pepnt.htm[/url] (Pentagon Plane Still 'Missing' Say Some)
2003-02-25 14:11 | User Profile
Avalanche,
That is a lot of information and unanswered questions.. Thanks. I knew in my heart that things did not make sense. Another thing that is really etched in my mind is the reaction of Hillary at Bush's 9/11 speech. Instead of being weepy-eyed because her constituents were attacked, she had a stone- cold demeanor and even rolled her eyes a few times. I mean, this is a woman who is a habitual liar and could put on the tears if she wanted to but in this case she makes no attempt to cover her feelings. Also, there was a coverup of short sales of airline stock for the time right after Sept.11th, investigators claiming that it would be differcult to track down the information. Bull. The information could be tracked easily by computer in a matter of minutes, look what happened to Martha Stewart.
2003-02-26 03:30 | User Profile
Why Should We Believe One Word? Questions for the Bush Administration
By: John LeBoutillier [url=http://www.etherzone.com/2003/lebo021303.shtml]http://www.etherzone.com/2003/lebo021303.shtml[/url]
Why does the Bush Administration move up to 200,000 troops, five carriers and tons of equipment to the Middle East to capture or kill Saddam Hussein but no such effort has yet been made to capture or kill Osama bin Laden?
Why - after the fall of Afghanistan in late 2001 - has the Bush Administration dropped the capture or killing of Osama as its top priority?
Why has G.W. Bush dropped his "Wanted: Dead or Alive" statement?
Why has G.W. Bush not even mentioned Osama bin Laden since last July?
Why is the Bush Administration so obsessed with Saddam's 'regime change' that they will now even resort to using Osama's latest tape as proof of a 'link' between the two Mid-East madmen?
Why did the Bush Administration suddenly alter their policy of not playing Osama's tapes in public for fear they contain coded instructions to sleeper cells?
Why does the Bush Administration refuse to declare war on our real enemy: fundamentalist Islam?
Why does the Bush Administration insist on linking Saddam to Osama - when Osama was clear in his disdain for Saddam's 'infidel' regime?
Why are we obsessed with this looming war against Iraq - when the Orange Alert comes because of Al Qaeda threats?
Why did this administration go to such great lengths not to implicate Iraq in the 9/11 attacks - despite compelling evidence from the Czech intelligence service (BIS) - showing lead hijacker Mohammed Atta meeting in Prague with a top Iraqi intelligence agent?
Why is George Tenet - a former Democratic senatorial hack - still running the CIA after the massive intelligence failure known as 9/11? And why is he the only Clinton holdover still in the Bush senior hierarchy? Why are the two George Bushes - father and son - so in love with Clinton's intelligence chief?
Why has some aspect of the US government protected Saddam as far back as the ending of the Gulf War in 1991? Why has this government element used leaks to try to prevent this administration from carrying out its stated goal of 'regime change'?
Why has the US Government failed so miserably to solve the 2001 anthrax attacks? Why can Colin Powell brandish a small vial of simulated anthrax to scare the hell out of us but we still have no clue about who mailed out envelopes filled with spores to the media and US Senate?
Why should we believe one word our government tells us?
John LeBoutillier is a former U.S. Congressman and a nationally recognized political commentator. He has been a frequent guest on many national talk show programs and is author of the book Harvard Hates America. He is a regular columnist for Ether Zone.
2003-02-27 03:14 | User Profile
[url=http://emperors-clothes.com/indict/911page.htm#1]http://emperors-clothes.com/indict/911page.htm#1[/url]
Really good gathering of links to amazing info!
2003-02-27 15:07 | User Profile
According to my buddies, the assult on Iraq will begin in earnest within 48 hrs of the UN voting down the USA proposal.
2003-02-27 15:44 | User Profile
Avalanche, the fact that the plan for invading, destroying and occupying Iraq has been on the books for years written by folks who are now in positions of great authority, and the "coincidence" that 19 rag-tag-camel-jockeys-cum-Cessna-flunkies-cum-Boeing-acrobatic-pilots snuck through our security and demolished lives, property, and liberty and now we're invading Iraq is just all too much for anyone to believe, especially the French for which I applaud them. We are on a runaway train with evil in control and the rest of us are in the caboose skipping the tracks and swaying violently to and fro like a cartoon from hell. Anyone see the Saddam Hussein interview with Dan Blather last night on 60 minutes? All I can say is that Hussein very often mentioned sovreignty of Iraq and nationalism for Iraq, and pan-arabism in the Middle East all of which are big no-no's for anyone or any country......except.....aw do I have to say it!!?!???!?!!!!!!
2003-02-28 12:02 | User Profile
If I were SH, I would not destroy any of my weapons knowing full well the Americans are going to blitz the crap out of Iraq no matter what cooperation.