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Mr.Wilson [OP]

2003-02-20 19:40 | User Profile

Website author Lowell Boileau offers a fabulous explanation as to what happened: "The fabulous Ruins of Detroit all began as sparkling edifices,the fulfillment of the dreams of their architects and developers. Their end did not come suddenly,as part of some natural disaster or war. Instead it resulted from an accumulated lack of basic aesthetic sensibility." [url=http://detroityes.com/home.htm]http://detroityes.com/home.htm[/url]


xmetalhead

2003-02-20 19:52 | User Profile

Originally posted by Mr.Wilson@Feb 20 2003, 14:40 ** Their end did not come suddenly,as part of some natural disaster or war. Instead it resulted from an accumulated lack of basic aesthetic sensibility." **

Very heartbreaking website. I stumbled upon this one 2 years ago. It's still hard to look at those beautiful edifices built by White men, rot and crumble under the black hand. The end of Detroit came because blacks became a rioting majority in this once beautiful "Paris of the West" city. White flight maximus. Today it is a rotting wasteland of crime, corruption and urban decay. Blacks can only run a city, country, continent into destruction and no where else. Same thing's happening in my city too: NYC.


xmetalhead

2003-02-20 20:41 | User Profile

Here's one from Birdman's.......

The Late Great City of Detroit

The first in our occasional series on the shifting racial composition of America's cities.

by William Robertson Boggs

Every year, at Halloween, the city of Detroit goes up in flames. In an annual observance known as Devil's Night, gangs of young blacks set fire to hundreds of buildings, while fire trucks scream helplessly from one conflagration to the next. Devil's Night has become a choice event for fire buffs, who come from as far as Europe and Japan to gape at the spectacle of a city gone mad.

The tradition of Devil's Night arson began for unknown reasons in 1983 and caught the city by surprise. Fires blazed out of control, and smoke hung over the city for days. Now, every year, the city braces for the worst. Fire departments from neighboring suburbs converge on Detroit to help fight the flames, and thousands of civilian volunteers patrol the streets for arsonists. Nothing works. Last year, more fires were set than the year before. Much of the city now looks as if it had been carpet bombed.

Capital of Black America

In Detroit, appearance is a faithful reflection of reality. The city is one of the most wretched, dangerous, ugly, and dispirited in the country. Every year, it competes with Washington (DC) for the distinction as murder capital of the United States. Neighborhood merchants do business behind bullet-proof barriers and leave their stores with weapons drawn.

Of the approximately 20,000 children who start first grade every year, only 500 (2.5%) will ever get enough education to do college work, and only 100 of these will be boys. One third of Detroit's residents are on public assistance, and food stamps are a virtual second currency. Drugs are everywhere, and the city has black-Africa rates of AIDS and infant mortality. Detroit, the sixth largest city in America, is more than 70 percent black. It thinks of itself as the African-American capital of the continent.

[ Comment: 81.55 percent Black per the 2000 Census. Now Detroit is just another Haiti, of course, under the French, Haiti was known as the "Pearl of the Carribean.]

Only a little over a generation ago, the city was a proud, prosperous, mainly-white metropolis--the motor capital of the world. Incongruous as it may now seem, in the mid-1960s, it was widely hailed as an urban success story. The Washington Post wrote that Jerry Cavanaugh, then mayor, "has succeeded where other big city mayors have failed."Time magazine wrote that he was "restoring the heart"of the city. Detroit was a show piece for Lyndon Johnson's "great society,"and prided itself on its liberal progressiveness. When Martin Luther King visited Detroit in 1963, he was given a hero's welcome.

The Illusion Ends

Show piece Detroit fell apart in 1967. That summer, as they had in so many other cities, black neighborhoods erupted in a frenzy of violence and rapine. Detroit's riots were the worst the country has seen this century. They went on for five days and left 43 people dead. The 101st and 82nd Airborne divisions had to be called in to restore order.

Detroit never recovered from those five days in 1967. Whites have fled the city; in the 20 years following the riots, Detroit lost 600,000 people. The 70 percent white majority of 1960 dropped so quickly that in 1973 Detroit had both a black majority and a black mayor. Now, no other city in the United States has a character or identity that is so clearly black. Mayor Coleman Young calls himself "the black mayor of a black city."

This is scarcely an exaggeration. The police chief and all four police commissioners are black. The school superintendent is black, as are the heads of virtually every city department. Both of the city's congressmen and most of its judges are black.

While federal and state subsidies keep Detroit from complete collapse, Mayor Young operates his city much as an African potentate might. His picture hangs in every city office building, and his name graces the municipal letterhead. The personal business cards of every city employee bear the mayor's name. At every opportunity, he names parks and civic centers after himself. Even the city zoo is now named for Coleman A. Young.

The very history of the city now has something of a colonial-African hue. The period of prosperity before the riots is now officially viewed as analogous to colonization. A city document describes the pre-1967 police force as "a hostile white army, entrusted by white authorities with the job of keeping nonwhites penned up in ghettos."As the riots recede further into the past, they are increasingly seen as a glorious insurrection, in which the oppressed black man threw off his shackles and wrested control from the white man.

Detroit even has its own anthem, which is also the unofficial anthem of black America: Lift Every Voice and Sing. The people of Detroit still sing the Star Spangled Banner when the presence of whites makes it necessary, but it is invariably followed by an enthusiastic chorus of what Detroiters call "our"anthem. No city in America is more self- consciously black, no city more clearly and completely governed by blacks than Detroit.

A Series of Failures

Black rule has not been a success. As the city's population shifted, all indices of its health went sour. The murder rate rose 1000 percent between 1950 and 1990. Welfare became the single largest employer. Industry escaped to the suburbs, and the tax base shrank.

Despite massive, Devil's-Night destruction of housing stock, the building industry withered to nearly nothing; in 1987, the city issued only two building permits for single-family houses. As the population shrank to one half its 1950 figure and arson leveled entire blocks, large tracts of the city simply reverted to nature. Wildfowl not normally seen in cities have been found nesting in Detroit's urban prairies. In the center of town, skyscrapers stand vacant. One can easily walk an entire downtown block, on a week day, and not see a soul.

Of all the city's horrors, violent crime is surely the worst. People who live in Detroit are two and three times more likely to kill each other than people who live in New York or Chicago. Detroit's murder statistics are so grim that they push the entire state into the top of the league for black homicide. In the 15-24 age bracket, 232 black men for every 100,000 can expect to be killed every year. Washington (DC) trails far behind at 139. For whites of the same age, the murder rate in Michigan is 6.6 per 100,000, which means the state is 35 times more dangerous for young blacks than it is for young whites. Virtually all blacks are killed by other blacks.

Although it is nearly impossible for anyone not familiar with the city to imagine the texture of life in Detroit, a recent incident at a movie theater captures the atmosphere. When the Americana 8 theater had its first showing of the Eddie Murphy movie, Harlem Nights, the crowd was so large and unmanageable that ushers stopped checking for tickets. Nearly 1,500 people pushed into the theater, filling the seats and aisles. As they waited for the movie to begin, some people passed around bottles of liquor, and others danced on the stage in front of the movie screen. The theater manager was worried by the unruly crowd, and started the movie with the house lights on.

A few minutes into the movie, some men got into a fist fight. The manager stopped the show and called the police, who restored quiet. Shortly after the movie started up again, a group of women began fighting and the movie was stopped. Theater personnel were able to make peace and the movie started again. Yet another fight broke out, the movie was stopped, order was restored, and the movie started up again. Then, just as the Eddie Murphy movie character loosed a burst of gunfire, someone in the audience started firing.

Two men in the theater were wounded, and most of the audience ran out of the building in a panic. One woman was in such a rush that she was hit by a passing car and badly injured. When police and first aid personnel arrived, they were duly fired on. They returned fire, wounding their assailant. It would be wrong to call this a typical Friday night at the movies, but the city has long gone numb to savagery of this kind.

In Detroit, it is sensible to assume that virtually every man is armed --non-criminals must defend themselves against criminals. In one famous incident a few years ago, a bus load of 19 black preachers took an excursion across the border into Canada. They were stopped and searched by customs agents, who discovered 19 hand guns--one per clergyman.

Who is Responsible?

A great city does not become a wasteland without a reason. When the once-great city is populated and governed almost entirely by blacks, one might think that the official and obligatory explanation for black failure--white racism--rings hollow. One would be wrong.

Mayor Young has developed the well-timed charge of racism into a fine art. He dismisses any criticism of the city by white-owned newspapers or television stations as racism. Despite the fact that Detroit no longer has any whites in positions of power--indeed, scarcely any whites at all--Mayor Young regularly wins reelection on the theme that white malevolence is at the root of the city's problems. Even when whites are out of sight and out of power they are believed to be casting a miasma of despair over what would otherwise be an African-American paradise. In fact, without the welfare and surrounding infrastructure of a rich white nation, Detroit might well be no different from Haiti.

For anyone willing to seek instruction in contrasts, there is much to be learned about Detroit from the city of Toronto. Only 230 miles away, on the shore of Lake Erie rather than Lake Ontario, Toronto has become the city that Detroit once was. While Detroit's population was dropping by half, from nearly two million to one million, Toronto's doubled from one million to two million. It weathered declines in its old manufacturing base and found a new role as a center of finance. Safe, bright, upbeat, described by admirers as "New York run by the Swiss,"Toronto could hardly be a more striking contrast to the squalor of Detroit. It is only eleven percent black.

Even though whites dare not discuss the obvious connection between a city's racial composition and its level of culture, blacks are freer to state the obvious. In Ze'ev Chafets' recent book on Detroit, Devil's Night, the author quotes a young black welfare recipient, who has managed better than virtually every black "spokesman"and white PhD to cut through the fog of self-delusion and excuse-making that warps any discussion of race in America: "Blacks can't sit around and wait for whites to do for us,"she says; "The trouble with us is us."

But if the trouble with blacks is blacks, the trouble with whites is whites. Though they are still a 75 percent majority in the nation as a whole (this figure is now debatable) --about the same majority as Detroit at the height of its power--whites have established immigration (see following article) and welfare policies at are rapidly cutting into that majority. If these policies do not change, whites will become a minority within the next few decades.

Whites still have the power to change their destiny. If they do not, they need only look to Detroit to see the future.

[url=http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Blacks-Detroit-Tony.htm]http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Oth...etroit-Tony.htm[/url]


Lowell

2005-06-11 01:20 | User Profile

[color=black]...which allowed me to see this thread and comment on the shallow, hateful, racist and misguiding article by birdman as quoted by xmetalhead who seems to share the same poisoned POV.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />[/color]

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[color=black]Twisting my Fabulous Ruins of Detroit website and the struggles of [/color]<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />[color=black]Detroit[/color][color=black] into some pseudo-intellectual diatribe against Afro-Americans is nothing new. It has occurred on Nazi sites but it is disturbing to see it appear on a forum dedicated to the serious discussion of conservative ideas. Doing such merely displays the author's obvious hatemongering and total lack of comprehension of the website and its message.[/color]

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[color=black]Classic among his misinformation is the opening invocation of Devil's Night, a long dead issue sensationalized by the late 80’s Zev Chafits book "Devil's Night: And Other True Tales of Detroit" and frequently seized upon as a "true" tale by racists around the world. You can buy that [/color][color=black]POS[/color][color=black] on Amazon for 73 cents if you have money you wish to waste. [Amazing how the free market sometimes accurately determines the value of some writings.][/color]

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[color=black]Overlooked is the greater story how [/color][color=black]Detroit[/color][color=black]'s Devil's Night problems were overcome by the very Mayor Young that the birdman author goes on to vilify. Long since known as "Angel's Night" it has become one of the safest nights in [/color][color=black]Detroit[/color][color=black] as 30,000 plus volunteers muster each year to patrol neighborhoods, arrange activities for children and more.[/color]

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[color=black]But since when did inconvenient facts mean anything to dedicated racists determined to spread hate?[/color]


Texas Dissident

2005-06-11 09:39 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Lowell]Twisting my Fabulous Ruins of Detroit website and the struggles of Detroit into some pseudo-intellectual diatribe against Afro-Americans is nothing new. It has occurred on Nazi sites but it is disturbing to see it appear on a forum dedicated to the serious discussion of conservative ideas. Doing such merely displays the author's obvious hatemongering and total lack of comprehension of the website and its message.[/QUOTE]

OK, Lowell. Welcome to the board.

Now that you have your polemic out of the way, please tell us in your own words what happened to Detroit, Michigan. We're all ears and ready for a serious discussion on the matter.


Angler

2005-06-11 10:21 | User Profile

Hello, Lowell.

[QUOTE=Lowell]...which allowed me to see this thread and comment on the shallow, hateful, racist and misguiding article by birdman as quoted by xmetalhead who seems to share the same poisoned POV. You should be aware that words like "hateful" and "racist" carry very little weight around here. Whether or not such labels are appropriate has no bearing on the truth or falsity of any claim. They are not a substitute for debate.

Twisting my Fabulous Ruins of Detroit website and the struggles of Detroit into some pseudo-intellectual diatribe against Afro-Americans is nothing new. It has occurred on Nazi sites but it is disturbing to see it appear on a forum dedicated to the serious discussion of conservative ideas. Doing such merely displays the author's obvious hatemongering and total lack of comprehension of the website and its message. Never mind if the article is unoriginal or if similar material has been seen on Nazi websites. Neither of those factors implies that the material is false.

Classic among his misinformation is the opening invocation of Devil's Night, a long dead issue sensationalized by the late 80’s Zev Chafits book "Devil's Night: And Other True Tales of Detroit" and frequently seized upon as a "true" tale by racists around the world. You can buy that POS on Amazon for 73 cents if you have money you wish to waste. [Amazing how the free market sometimes accurately determines the value of some writings.] I have seen coverage of Devil's Night many times on the news. Those fires sure looked real to my eyes. No one disputes that it has been a problem.

Overlooked is the greater story how Detroit's Devil's Night problems... Wait -- didn't you just say these were fictional or sensationalized?

...were overcome by the very Mayor Young that the birdman author goes on to vilify. Long since known as "Angel's Night" it has become one of the safest nights in Detroit as 30,000 plus volunteers muster each year to patrol neighborhoods, arrange activities for children and more. That's good that something has been done about Devil's Night, though most cities have no need to make such an effort to prevent widespread arson.

But since when did inconvenient facts mean anything to dedicated racists determined to spread hate?[/QUOTE]Actually, the facts are precisely what I'm interested in.

Do you dispute that there is a correlation between the black population of a city and its crime rate? Also, how do you account for the observation that poor majority-white areas (such as Appalachia) have far lower crime rates than similarly poor black areas? On a related note, are majority-black nations in Africa safe places to live?


xmetalhead

2005-06-11 14:43 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Lowell][color=black]...which allowed me to see this thread and comment on the shallow, hateful, racist and misguiding article by birdman as quoted by xmetalhead who seems to share the same poisoned POV.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />[/color]

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[color=black]Twisting my Fabulous Ruins of Detroit website and the struggles of [/color]<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />[color=black]Detroit[/color][color=black] into some pseudo-intellectual diatribe against Afro-Americans is nothing new. It has occurred on Nazi sites but it is disturbing to see it appear on a forum dedicated to the serious discussion of conservative ideas. Doing such merely displays the author's obvious hatemongering and total lack of comprehension of the website and its message.[/color]

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[color=black]Classic among his misinformation is the opening invocation of Devil's Night, a long dead issue sensationalized by the late 80’s Zev Chafits book "Devil's Night: And Other True Tales of Detroit" and frequently seized upon as a "true" tale by racists around the world. You can buy that [/color][color=black]POS[/color][color=black] on Amazon for 73 cents if you have money you wish to waste. [Amazing how the free market sometimes accurately determines the value of some writings.][/color]

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[color=black]Overlooked is the greater story how [/color][color=black]Detroit[/color][color=black]'s Devil's Night problems were overcome by the very Mayor Young that the birdman author goes on to vilify. Long since known as "Angel's Night" it has become one of the safest nights in [/color][color=black]Detroit[/color][color=black] as 30,000 plus volunteers muster each year to patrol neighborhoods, arrange activities for children and more.[/color]

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[color=black]But since when did inconvenient facts mean anything to dedicated racists determined to spread hate?[/color][/QUOTE]

Welcome Lowell!

I guess the Ruins of Detroit are just illusionary!!! Thanks for clearing that up, I might just visit one day. BTW, wasn't Kwame Fitzpatrick accused of buying his wife a brand new Suburban with taxpayers money? Wasn't the white reporter who was investigating this report beaten by Kwame's black thugs??

Why did Detroit fall apart in such a way as it did?? Oh, right, blame the Whites!!!


madrussian

2005-06-11 16:20 | User Profile

Insisting that giving an appropriate asessment to other races (a.k.a. believing your own personal observations and written evidence over zhid agitprop about "equality" that they themselves have never subscribed to) is "hate" and "racism" is just a form of hate-whitey or self-hatred.

"Hating" people alien to you is loving yourself and yours. And conversely.


Texas Dissident

2005-06-14 07:22 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Angler]Do you dispute that there is a correlation between the black population of a city and its crime rate? Also, how do you account for the observation that poor majority-white areas (such as Appalachia) have far lower crime rates than similarly poor black areas? On a related note, are majority-black nations in Africa safe places to live?[/QUOTE]

Don't waste your breath, Angler. Obviously our friend Lowell is just a drive-by insulter who lacks the stones to stick around, present and defend his position. IOW, a coward.

Let this be another example of how we mean racists here at OD gave the name-callers ample opportunity to intelligently debate the issues at hand and they refused.


Old School Whitey

2005-06-21 17:47 | User Profile

[QUOTE=xmetalhead]Here's one from Birdman's.......

The Late Great City of Detroit

The first in our occasional series on the shifting racial composition of America's cities.

by William Robertson Boggs

Every year, at Halloween, the city of Detroit goes up in flames. In an annual observance known as Devil's Night, gangs of young blacks set fire to hundreds of buildings, while fire trucks scream helplessly from one conflagration to the next. Devil's Night has become a choice event for fire buffs, who come from as far as Europe and Japan to gape at the spectacle of a city gone mad.

The tradition of Devil's Night arson began for unknown reasons in 1983 and caught the city by surprise. Fires blazed out of control, and smoke hung over the city for days. Now, every year, the city braces for the worst. Fire departments from neighboring suburbs converge on Detroit to help fight the flames, and thousands of civilian volunteers patrol the streets for arsonists. Nothing works. Last year, more fires were set than the year before. Much of the city now looks as if it had been carpet bombed.

Capital of Black America

In Detroit, appearance is a faithful reflection of reality. The city is one of the most wretched, dangerous, ugly, and dispirited in the country. Every year, it competes with Washington (DC) for the distinction as murder capital of the United States. Neighborhood merchants do business behind bullet-proof barriers and leave their stores with weapons drawn.

Of the approximately 20,000 children who start first grade every year, only 500 (2.5%) will ever get enough education to do college work, and only 100 of these will be boys. One third of Detroit's residents are on public assistance, and food stamps are a virtual second currency. Drugs are everywhere, and the city has black-Africa rates of AIDS and infant mortality. Detroit, the sixth largest city in America, is more than 70 percent black. It thinks of itself as the African-American capital of the continent.

[ Comment: 81.55 percent Black per the 2000 Census. Now Detroit is just another Haiti, of course, under the French, Haiti was known as the "Pearl of the Carribean.]

Only a little over a generation ago, the city was a proud, prosperous, mainly-white metropolis--the motor capital of the world. Incongruous as it may now seem, in the mid-1960s, it was widely hailed as an urban success story. The Washington Post wrote that Jerry Cavanaugh, then mayor, "has succeeded where other big city mayors have failed."Time magazine wrote that he was "restoring the heart"of the city. Detroit was a show piece for Lyndon Johnson's "great society,"and prided itself on its liberal progressiveness. When Martin Luther King visited Detroit in 1963, he was given a hero's welcome.

The Illusion Ends

Show piece Detroit fell apart in 1967. That summer, as they had in so many other cities, black neighborhoods erupted in a frenzy of violence and rapine. Detroit's riots were the worst the country has seen this century. They went on for five days and left 43 people dead. The 101st and 82nd Airborne divisions had to be called in to restore order.

Detroit never recovered from those five days in 1967. Whites have fled the city; in the 20 years following the riots, Detroit lost 600,000 people. The 70 percent white majority of 1960 dropped so quickly that in 1973 Detroit had both a black majority and a black mayor. Now, no other city in the United States has a character or identity that is so clearly black. Mayor Coleman Young calls himself "the black mayor of a black city."

This is scarcely an exaggeration. The police chief and all four police commissioners are black. The school superintendent is black, as are the heads of virtually every city department. Both of the city's congressmen and most of its judges are black.

While federal and state subsidies keep Detroit from complete collapse, Mayor Young operates his city much as an African potentate might. His picture hangs in every city office building, and his name graces the municipal letterhead. The personal business cards of every city employee bear the mayor's name. At every opportunity, he names parks and civic centers after himself. Even the city zoo is now named for Coleman A. Young.

The very history of the city now has something of a colonial-African hue. The period of prosperity before the riots is now officially viewed as analogous to colonization. A city document describes the pre-1967 police force as "a hostile white army, entrusted by white authorities with the job of keeping nonwhites penned up in ghettos."As the riots recede further into the past, they are increasingly seen as a glorious insurrection, in which the oppressed black man threw off his shackles and wrested control from the white man.

Detroit even has its own anthem, which is also the unofficial anthem of black America: Lift Every Voice and Sing. The people of Detroit still sing the Star Spangled Banner when the presence of whites makes it necessary, but it is invariably followed by an enthusiastic chorus of what Detroiters call "our"anthem. No city in America is more self- consciously black, no city more clearly and completely governed by blacks than Detroit.

A Series of Failures

Black rule has not been a success. As the city's population shifted, all indices of its health went sour. The murder rate rose 1000 percent between 1950 and 1990. Welfare became the single largest employer. Industry escaped to the suburbs, and the tax base shrank.

Despite massive, Devil's-Night destruction of housing stock, the building industry withered to nearly nothing; in 1987, the city issued only two building permits for single-family houses. As the population shrank to one half its 1950 figure and arson leveled entire blocks, large tracts of the city simply reverted to nature. Wildfowl not normally seen in cities have been found nesting in Detroit's urban prairies. In the center of town, skyscrapers stand vacant. One can easily walk an entire downtown block, on a week day, and not see a soul.

Of all the city's horrors, violent crime is surely the worst. People who live in Detroit are two and three times more likely to kill each other than people who live in New York or Chicago. Detroit's murder statistics are so grim that they push the entire state into the top of the league for black homicide. In the 15-24 age bracket, 232 black men for every 100,000 can expect to be killed every year. Washington (DC) trails far behind at 139. For whites of the same age, the murder rate in Michigan is 6.6 per 100,000, which means the state is 35 times more dangerous for young blacks than it is for young whites. Virtually all blacks are killed by other blacks.

Although it is nearly impossible for anyone not familiar with the city to imagine the texture of life in Detroit, a recent incident at a movie theater captures the atmosphere. When the Americana 8 theater had its first showing of the Eddie Murphy movie, Harlem Nights, the crowd was so large and unmanageable that ushers stopped checking for tickets. Nearly 1,500 people pushed into the theater, filling the seats and aisles. As they waited for the movie to begin, some people passed around bottles of liquor, and others danced on the stage in front of the movie screen. The theater manager was worried by the unruly crowd, and started the movie with the house lights on.

A few minutes into the movie, some men got into a fist fight. The manager stopped the show and called the police, who restored quiet. Shortly after the movie started up again, a group of women began fighting and the movie was stopped. Theater personnel were able to make peace and the movie started again. Yet another fight broke out, the movie was stopped, order was restored, and the movie started up again. Then, just as the Eddie Murphy movie character loosed a burst of gunfire, someone in the audience started firing.

Two men in the theater were wounded, and most of the audience ran out of the building in a panic. One woman was in such a rush that she was hit by a passing car and badly injured. When police and first aid personnel arrived, they were duly fired on. They returned fire, wounding their assailant. It would be wrong to call this a typical Friday night at the movies, but the city has long gone numb to savagery of this kind.

In Detroit, it is sensible to assume that virtually every man is armed --non-criminals must defend themselves against criminals. In one famous incident a few years ago, a bus load of 19 black preachers took an excursion across the border into Canada. They were stopped and searched by customs agents, who discovered 19 hand guns--one per clergyman.

Who is Responsible?

A great city does not become a wasteland without a reason. When the once-great city is populated and governed almost entirely by blacks, one might think that the official and obligatory explanation for black failure--white racism--rings hollow. One would be wrong.

Mayor Young has developed the well-timed charge of racism into a fine art. He dismisses any criticism of the city by white-owned newspapers or television stations as racism. Despite the fact that Detroit no longer has any whites in positions of power--indeed, scarcely any whites at all--Mayor Young regularly wins reelection on the theme that white malevolence is at the root of the city's problems. Even when whites are out of sight and out of power they are believed to be casting a miasma of despair over what would otherwise be an African-American paradise. In fact, without the welfare and surrounding infrastructure of a rich white nation, Detroit might well be no different from Haiti.

For anyone willing to seek instruction in contrasts, there is much to be learned about Detroit from the city of Toronto. Only 230 miles away, on the shore of Lake Erie rather than Lake Ontario, Toronto has become the city that Detroit once was. While Detroit's population was dropping by half, from nearly two million to one million, Toronto's doubled from one million to two million. It weathered declines in its old manufacturing base and found a new role as a center of finance. Safe, bright, upbeat, described by admirers as "New York run by the Swiss,"Toronto could hardly be a more striking contrast to the squalor of Detroit. It is only eleven percent black.

Even though whites dare not discuss the obvious connection between a city's racial composition and its level of culture, blacks are freer to state the obvious. In Ze'ev Chafets' recent book on Detroit, Devil's Night, the author quotes a young black welfare recipient, who has managed better than virtually every black "spokesman"and white PhD to cut through the fog of self-delusion and excuse-making that warps any discussion of race in America: "Blacks can't sit around and wait for whites to do for us,"she says; "The trouble with us is us."

But if the trouble with blacks is blacks, the trouble with whites is whites. Though they are still a 75 percent majority in the nation as a whole (this figure is now debatable) --about the same majority as Detroit at the height of its power--whites have established immigration (see following article) and welfare policies at are rapidly cutting into that majority. If these policies do not change, whites will become a minority within the next few decades.

Whites still have the power to change their destiny. If they do not, they need only look to Detroit to see the future.

[url="http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Blacks-Detroit-Tony.htm"]http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Oth...etroit-Tony.htm[/url][/QUOTE]

Or,to make a long story short,blackie got what he wanted,but he lost what he had!And continues to blame Whitey for everything that goes wrong....in blackie's own hands!Corruption -every form of crime,in overwhelmingly black-on-black numbers(And black-on-White crime totally outnumbers vice versa) -goes totally through the roof,and the streets or schools or neighborhoods are no longer safe because of it.Then,just continue to blame-it-on-Whitey.

That Coleman Young is burning in hell for his deliberate,mean-spirited,spiteful,racist destruction of a city,just to "get even with Whitey" ,is of little consolation.The consequences of himself and his thugs' destruction, are still alive and well,today. His mindset is still the mindset of black politicians ,that are in all positions and levels of political power,all over this country,in every city and state. They are as racist as he was,and given the opportunity,they will do to every city what Young did to The City Formerly Known As Detroit(It's practically a euphemism - it's Detroit in name only).And the results will always be the same;the same destruction,the same explosion of every form of crime,and Whites will rightfully flee with their lives,and it will all be perfectly fine to future Colman Youngs - as long as Whitey's gone from the cities,everything is "aa'ight".

And as Whites,We must collectively stop kidding ourselves,once and for all.