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Thread ID: 5019 | Posts: 24 | Started: 2003-02-14
2003-02-14 20:32 | User Profile
In lieu of any more Jewish jokes, and in a spirit of charity, what about nominations for good or noble Jews. Maybe it will be refreshing. I'll suggest a few:
Louis Rukeyser. Enjoyed him for years. Honest as far as I hear. Investment information without the jargon.
Bernie Sanders. Pinko congressman, but good on the war. Seems to have genuine principles.
Matt Drudge. Pro-war (sadly), but populist who drives Big Media nuts.
Murray Rothbard. Anybody Buckley hates is a friend of mine.
Any more suggestions?
2003-02-14 23:09 | User Profile
Michael Levin & Paul Gottfried.
2003-02-14 23:47 | User Profile
Ain't no such thing as a good Jew. Even "conservative" Jews run interference for their leftist buddies. Just mention that "Jews invented feminism" or "Jews led leftism in America" and watch conservative Jews scream "anti-Semitism." And try to censor you.
Ain't biting. Try another fish.
2003-02-14 23:55 | User Profile
Old Bernie is a communist. In his world you'd be catching public transit to get to work because personal automobiles would be taxed out of existence. Also, expect the take-home-pay to be reduced to 15% after taxes. Since working people should not have anything to hide from one another, I would not rule out the subsequent ban on the use of curtains in one's home either. A la North Korea, you know. Freedom of thought will most likely be outlawed as well.
2003-02-15 00:09 | User Profile
I'd submit Israel Shamir, the only Jewish intellectual with the grit to go and hold a debate with Jewish Tribal Review -- online no less.
I have always supported antiglobalist Jews. They're effective, which counts for a lot in a world that also contains Alex Linder.
2003-02-15 00:15 | User Profile
The anti-zionist jews.
All 4 of them.
2003-02-15 01:20 | User Profile
Hey, Ragnar -- you criticizing Linder? Huh???
Go bounce beachballs with the Jews.
2003-02-15 05:10 | User Profile
Originally posted by Franco@Feb 15 2003, 01:20 ** Hey, Ragnar -- you criticizing Linder? Huh???
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Linder fans, ah!
So much like the Bushmen at FreeRepublic, I've often thought they might be the same guys telling different gags.
2003-02-15 08:38 | User Profile
Originally posted by Marcus Porcius Cato@Feb 15 2003, 05:34 ** Jared Taylor fans, ah!
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Okay, you found me out.
But like it or not our people are law-abiding and polite. So is Jared Taylor. Ever wonder why he's hated by radical "white nationalists" and freakshow "multiculturalists" about equally?
Because neither "blenders" nor race radicals are -- yup -- law abiding or polite. Neither speaks for our people, or ever will.
2003-02-15 09:21 | User Profile
Taylor, Linder, what difference does it make? For the time being, all of us are all-talk. The difference, it seems, is that the more moderate talkers are being heard out. Just slapping a brainwashed populace across the face with facts, without lead-in people to prime their minds first, is a poor strategy.
2003-02-15 15:39 | User Profile
Originally posted by Ragnar@Feb 14 2003, 18:09 ** I'd submit Israel Shamir, the only Jewish intellectual with the grit to go and hold a debate with Jewish Tribal Review -- online no less.
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I'll check him out. There was also an I. Shahak, though he died a couple of years ago.
2003-02-15 19:22 | User Profile
Israel Shahak is an ok guy, to a point at least.
2003-02-15 19:30 | User Profile
Re: Israel Shamir.
Jewish Tribal Review has the whole Shamir/Powers exchange links on one page, below. Shamir's remarks about Judaism in the opener is eye-opening by itself; in the last half-dozen paragraphs he manages to out-do what Kevin MacDonald spent an entire trilogy of books trying to get across.
[url=http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/critique.htm]http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/critique.htm[/url]
2003-02-15 21:36 | User Profile
Originally posted by Ragnar@Feb 15 2003, 04:38 > Originally posted by Marcus Porcius Cato@Feb 15 2003, 05:34 ** Jared Taylor fans, ah!
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Okay, you found me out.
But like it or not our people are law-abiding and polite. So is Jared Taylor. Ever wonder why he's hated by radical "white nationalists" and freakshow "multiculturalists" about equally?
Because neither "blenders" nor race radicals are -- yup -- law abiding or polite. Neither speaks for our people, or ever will.**
David Duke has always been polite, as evidenced by his numerous appearances on television talk shows as well as in his book My Awakening and [url=http://www.whitecivilrights.com]on his website (linked here)[/url]. Always a mature and dignified tone. Yet Duke is willing to include chapters in his book discussing the role of the Jews in America's decline, while Taylor seems less willing to deal with that dimension, at least publicly at this time.
As far as Duke being law-abiding, I realize the fact the government is about to imprison him might be seen as a strike against my case, ;) but then it is important to note the ways in which the government likes to entrap people and fabricate "evidence" against people. At any rate, Duke has never advocated that anyone break the law, and he's in fact advised his supporters to be both polite and law-abiding.
I'm not knocking Taylor, by the way, because I think he is effective and does a lot of good. I'm just trying to show that there is no necessary connection between illegality/rudeness and discussing the Jewish Question alongside the National Question.
2003-02-16 03:30 | User Profile
[url=http://www.netureikarta.org/]http://www.netureikarta.org/[/url]
2003-02-16 04:27 | User Profile
PaleoconAvatar:
I agree about Duke; he's still the most visible and successful leader we have. Duke seems to provoke lots of loyalty which is a plus. Every Duke man I know insists his current rap was a set-up. I agree with that, but universal loyalty is rare.
Going in the other direction, Birdman Bryant, not a paragon of politeness, actually said the most coherent thing on the subject of "Good Jews" in one of his essays:
"There are two points here that I am driving at. The first is that it is high time for people in our movement to acknowledge their positive feelings for Jews, and to stop behaving so as to fuel the charge of 'haters' which has been used against us so effectively by the Left. The second point is that we must not merely openly embrace the Jews who will give us help, but we must cultivate that help. We can do this in part by pointing to self- interest: that we -- Jew and gentile -- will all be poorer -- both economically and culturally -- without Western civilization and the white race, and that this culture is of prime value to Jews because it has allowed them to thrive as no other civilization on earth..."
[url=http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Fight/Fight-Jews&Haters.html]http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Fight/Figh...ews&Haters.html[/url]
2003-02-16 04:32 | User Profile
This entire topic is offensive.
It's one thing to believe that Jews, as a group, are biologically/psychologically programmed to view all nonJews as a threatening 'other', to be infiltrated and subverted into a subservient position. Quite frankly, if you believe the first part of that - and I do - then the second part - the tactics - are mandated by their daunting numerical inferiority. Ie, if they had the numbers, they'd simply invade & attempt to conquer by force of arms - or just leave well enough alone.
It's another to claim that there have never been/can never be any well-meaning or inoffensive or even outright righteous individual Jews. Only a moron would believe this, or demand that YOU believe it as a litmus-test of your own loyalties.
If there can be such a thing as race traitors, then there can be good Jews. It doesn't change the nature of our struggle to acknowledge that reality is complex, and duty is not always joyful. It's simply that: acknowledging reality.
2003-02-16 05:06 | User Profile
Originally posted by w.bales@Feb 15 2003, 21:30 ** [url=http://www.netureikarta.org/]http://www.netureikarta.org/[/url] **
I was going to bring up these guys, but you beat me to it. I have no problem with the Neturei Karta at all. They abhor Zionism as much as, if not more than, any of the rest of us.
2003-02-16 05:22 | User Profile
Unfortunately, it HAS to be "all or nothing" with the Jews.
If 90% of all Jews are sh*tty people -- and that it true -- then you must write all of them off. How do you separate the few good ones from the rest at crunch time? Can't. Goebbels addressed this very problem. All or nothing. You choose. Me? ALL GO.
2003-02-16 05:29 | User Profile
How'd that work out for Goebbels again? I forget.
2003-02-16 05:35 | User Profile
Franco,
There is one person that I know that would beg to differ with you on this. He found this Jew to be worthy-- Dr. Edward Bloch.
Look him up and find out who his benefactor was.
2003-02-16 06:47 | User Profile
But the problem is: EVERYone always says, "I know a good one, and s/he should be kept." And that's why every d@mned legislator is always getting re-elected. Everyone wants to "throw the bastiges OUT" -- but, "oh, not MINE, cause he brings home the $ for us -- just the OTHER ones!"
So, if everyone on the list keeps just their 'one good jew" -- that's already a couple hundred. And how do you determine if your "one good jew" is going to sell YOUR (weapons) technology to the "bad jews" you've thrown out? (Oh, and if you keep the one, don't you have to keep his or her family too? Oh, and you just CAN'T throw out the grandparents TOO, can you!?)
Franco may be a little less than gentle and sweet B) -- but he's right! They must all go!
2003-02-16 08:04 | User Profile
This thread is an absolute disgrace because of certain ugly posts that have been removed, and for that reason I have closed it.
To ALL Of Those Who This Applies:
In recent months the standards of language and civil discourse here have declined on the part of a few of us. I admit that I have been guilty of this as well on occasion. For some of you this has become a bad habit.
In the future we are going to improve them by not using graphic crudities of a sexual nature, barnyard epithets are to be avoided as well, and no racial slurs. We also don`t want to see any sort of incident to violence, and that includes remarks like "the day of the rope."
We don`t need any of that sort of emotional nonsense displayed here.
Most of you are highly intelligent- act like it. For those of you who dont understand the above, it is quite simple. Dont use language that you would use in a public, [u]civilized[/u] society. Use good judgement.
If you don`t, the following will occur.
(1) The first time I will removed the offending word(s) and you will be informed.
(2) The second time the post will be deleted and p.m. mailed back to you as to why.
(3) The third time I will remove you.
2003-02-16 08:30 | User Profile
If anyone wishes to see the cyber sewage that has been removed, p.m. me. This is what we don`t need here.