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Thread ID: 5007 | Posts: 10 | Started: 2003-02-14
2003-02-14 09:30 | User Profile
Note: The following took place in the area of Houston I grew up in. Just 15 to 20 years ago it was a place of strong churches, schools and a community in every sense of the word. Now when I have the misfortune of driving back through the area I am taken aback by the wholesale transformation into Matamoros, Mexico Jr. This story is reflective of what we have allowed to be imported in the name of cheap labor at the price of cultural stability, our communities and just about everything else that once made Texas and America a great place to live. It sickens me to no end, but I can only hope and pray that Mr. Bush and other open-border advocates get this next door to them when righteous justice is finally served.
[url=http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/metropolitan/1778576]Sacrificial animals seized from home[/url]
By PEGGY O'HARE Copyright 2003 Houston Chronicle
Members of a north Houston family that practices Santeria rituals said they were praying for a relative in a coma when authorities barged into their home, seizing 12 goats, 11 chickens and two pigeons about to be sacrificed.
No charges were immediately filed against the five participants in the religious ritual in the 300 block of Coach near Imperial Valley, but the Houston SPCA seized all of the animals in the family's back yard Wednesday.
The five residents, ages 19 to 76, said they had purchased the animals earlier in the day at a slaughterhouse.
Someone called Houston police at 6:53 p.m. to report cruelty to animals, and constable's deputies went to the scene.
They found the goats in a 6-foot-by-8-foot enclosed area with no food and water. The animals appeared thin, were bound by their feet, and some seemed lethargic, said Deputy Chief J.C. Mosier of the Harris County Precinct 1 Constable's office.
Bowls of animal parts and blood were found, and three pits had been dug in the yard, Mosier said. One goat was found alive in one of the pits, with its feet bound, he said. Three chickens were found in the enclosed area with the goats, and one of the birds had been trampled and was barely alive, he said. Neighbors said they heard animal screams at the residence, but were afraid to call police.
Residents of the home denied that any animals were malnourished or abused, and said their rights were violated by authorities who don't understand their religion.
"This is a country where there's supposed to be freedom, and without warning, they invaded the privacy of the residence," Rafael Zamora, 44, a ritual participant, said through a translator.
Family members said they are considering filing a lawsuit.
Charges were not immediately pursued, because the law stipulates a criminal offense has occurred only if someone has killed, seriously injured or poisoned an animal that does not belong to them, said Di Glaeser, chief of the district attorney's central intake division.
Santeria, a word that means "the way of the saints," is a religion that started in Cuba when Africans were brought to the New World, said Elias Bongmba, assistant professor of religious studies at Rice University.
The religion has spread worldwide, but how many people practice Santeria is unknown since worshippers often perform rituals in their homes. However, there are probably hundreds in Houston, Bongmba said.
Worshippers, he said, sacrifice only edible animals and offer different foods to the divinities. Practitioners offer sacrifices for many things -- illness, launching a business, taking a trip, making sure of fulfilling one's destiny in life. Once the animals are slaughtered, worshippers prepare a meal to be shared.
In a case in Florida in 1992, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that prohibiting such religious sacrifices infringed on the free practice of religion, Bongmba said.
"In my interaction with the Santeria community in Houston, I've never seen anything that constitutes abuse" of animals, he said. But those who saw the animals being seized Wednesday night called the scene troubling.
"It was gruesome -- and horrifying. I'd leave it at that," said Houston SPCA spokeswoman Kim Hogstrom.
A hearing is set for 9:30 a.m. Wednesday before Justice of the Peace Dale Gorczynski to determine the animals' fate.
Chronicle reporter Danny Perez contributed to this report.
2003-02-14 09:40 | User Profile
And the randist looks on and says two words:
"Property rights". :(
2003-02-14 09:58 | User Profile
Originally posted by Anarch@Feb 14 2003, 03:40 **And the randist looks on and says two words:
"Property rights". :(**
True enough, Anarch.
But I wonder about the collective property rights of native-born Americans that are flagrantly violated by our own "representative" government and its open-door border policy. Our choice was either accept becoming a resident of Little Mexico or save up and keep migrating further north into the deeper suburbs in the effort to avoid living in the Third World. I don't remember getting to vote for that.
And not only have our communities been destroyed, but as we white folks keep moving away we cut down more trees and pave more and more acreage that leads to greater flooding problems (real problem down here), water issues, deforestation and general environmental hazards. I realize this and I'm hardly what one might call a tree-hugger.
2003-02-20 03:45 | User Profile
**Charges were not immediately pursued, because the law stipulates a criminal offense has occurred only if someone has killed, seriously injured or poisoned an animal that does not belong to them, said Di Glaeser, chief of the district attorney's central intake division. **
What there is no conpiracy to commit animal killing? I think we have found the one crime in America that is only a crime if you actually commit the act. If these were whites who just jokingly mentioned that they'd like to blow up a government building they'd be in jail for 20 years.
2003-02-20 04:00 | User Profile
**...as we white folks keep moving away we cut down more trees and pave more and more acreage that leads to greater flooding problems (real problem down here), water issues, deforestation and general environmental hazards. I realize this and I'm hardly what one might call a tree-hugger. **
A tree planted in American soil has more inalienable right to be left standing , unmolested, than any illegal mestizo has to creep over the border, whistle for his 19 relatives to come on over and meet him at the Medicaid office before joining him for an old-fashioned goat sacrifice at the HUD-subsidized homestead later.
"Tree hugger" my foot. That's our splendiferous natural beauty they're razing to the ground, and more a part of our heritage and birthright than any "Cinco de Mayo" celebration could ever aspire to be.
2003-02-20 04:16 | User Profile
And I'm really looking forward to the News at Six coverage on the SPCA raid on our local halal butchers', and of course coast-to-coast transmission of the PETA expose of what really goes in those Schechita abbatoirs in Jew York City and across the nation.
2003-02-20 15:58 | User Profile
Originally posted by Texas Dissident@Feb 14 2003, 04:58 **
And not only have our communities been destroyed, but as we white folks keep moving away we cut down more trees and pave more and more acreage that leads to greater flooding problems (real problem down here), water issues, deforestation and general environmental hazards.ÃÂ I realize this and I'm hardly what one might call a tree-hugger. **
Also Tex, we drive further and further to get to work each day, therefore using more and more foreign oil, causing more pollution, having less quality time with our families, and general decrease in quality of day-to-day life. We live most of our lives inside automobiles. That's no way to live!
2003-02-20 16:29 | User Profile
This is happening everywhere these practicioners of Santeria go. Some were arrested in South Carolina last year for the same offence.
The local authorities in effect tried to re-educate the Indians the way they do a WASP who got a DWI. They told them that what they were doing was an affront to their anglo neighbors and that a good neighbor doesn't knowlingly outrage his community.
The Indians, in a penetrating analysis of their own self interest, simply responded that once they got enough of their own kind in there the neighbors would have to live with it or get the hell out. Altruism is foreign to these people. It is all self interest.
And, God Damn it, it IS their culture. They'll be burying people in the backyard soon if they aren't already. Only gentiles stop practicing their culture because the state demands it. The John Dewey approach to de culturizing students then installing the state approved culture has worked only with gentiles. It hasn't worked with anyone else.
The fact is that demographics are destiny and within a short time this law will become as unenforceable as the ones against public swearing.
Not only will it become unenforceable, the will to enforce it will vanish just as demographics dictate that Frisco's laws against public lewdness, if they still exist, are rendered moot by the fact that EVERYBODY is doing it.
Welcome to the Camp of the Saints.
2003-02-20 16:42 | User Profile
But I wonder about the collective property rights of native-born Americans that are flagrantly violated by our own "representative" government and its open-door border policy.
Here, Here Tex,
This is the crux of the matter. The open border crowd screams and stamp their collective feet about the "rights" of the illegal immigrants and the rest of the third world horde which is flooding into this country while simutaniously demanding "their right" to maintain their culture, traditions, language, etc., all at taxpayer expense at that.
But what of the rights of Americans. It would seem that the only culture routinely dismissed or worse not acknowledged to even exist is the American Culture. From the elimination of the Confederate Battle Flag to revisionist history lessons, it seems a rush to eliminate any trace of culture founded and promulgated by "dead old white men" as one Berkley professor put it.
When will what is left of America begin the fight to preserve what once was the greatest cultural and political experiment in the history of the world?
I weep that even now the children, in schools I must pay for, are taught to despise "imperialist America" and to be ashamed of those great men who founded her as "whore mongering slave traders".
2003-02-20 20:39 | User Profile
"The Reality of Religious Slaughter"-a report by Viva!, a British animal rights organization. [url=http://www.viva.org.uk/Viva!%20Campaigns/Slaughter/goingforthekill2.htm]http://www.viva.org.uk/Viva!%20Campaig...forthekill2.htm[/url] "When Kosher Isn't Kosher" [url=http://www.meat.org/kosher.htm]http://www.meat.org/kosher.htm[/url]