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Thread ID: 4920 | Posts: 42 | Started: 2003-02-11
2003-02-11 02:24 | User Profile
Caught a little more than half of the show and Jared gave better than he got. Too many lemmings in the audience clapping for white extinction however. They will rerun the show at 11 pm and I'll be sure to record it.
2003-02-11 04:21 | User Profile
Oh but that sh|tsh|tsh|t Donahue!!
He twists and misleads and misdirects -- are we SURE he's not jewish?! Well he is, I guess, for all intents and purposes; his Catholic mother must be so eembarrassed!
2003-02-11 05:22 | User Profile
Please forgive me if I pass on this epic battle of the Shabbos goyim. Philosemite Jared Taylor is the clear winner - his spurious white nationalism is the John Birch steam valve of recent history. He's worth more to our ruling rabbinate than a score of faggoty Phils.
2003-02-11 06:06 | User Profile
As soon as Donapue hit him with the loyalty-to-Schlomo test , old Jared started to reach for water. And then to pause and swallow hard while feverishly coming up with Semitically-neutral responses. I almost rolled off my coach laughing. Has anybody informed Taylor that Schlomo's fellow tribesmen were instrumental in creating conditions that ensure an uniterrupted flow of 3rd world human debris into America. ?
2003-02-11 09:56 | User Profile
Some of you have been saying bad things about me in my absence
Hopefully really intelligent guy/dummy JaredTaylor finally got it through his thick skull that this "dignified, polite, non-confrontational" routine doesn't work when you're dealing with people who couldn't care less about those rules, or as Southerners would have it, "Virtues." And he is an Englishman, as he admitted on the air.
The polite, yet hot headed Englishman has been conquered over the years, as history proves.
Those slow, plodding, even tempered northern and midwestern Germans and Scandinavians that burned down Georgia and South Carolina didn't give a damn about being dashing, or flamboyant, or chivalrous. They were in the war business to win. And they did.
On the other hand, the Southrons have hung their hats for all these years upon being famous, and well remembered in death, and revelling in some romantic version of themselves as losers. Well, losers they were, romantic or not.
This insistence upon a "dignified" attitude, and preserving one's chivalry while in war against an enemy who couldn't care less about any of that is a weakness and a recipe for disaster.
You "polite" and "dignified" battlers are useless to us, you'll fight "chivalrously" then be destroyed just as those same Southern soldiers were ultimately killed by New York City scum almost 150 years ago.
We don't need gentlemen, gentlemen always lose a streetfight. We need bastard, no rules killers. The Germans are very slow to anger, but when they are aroused, they are efficient at performing their mission. The celts, on the other hand, are always ready to fight, but they are as well always prepared to lose. The Germans do not think that way. They approach all warfare with the attitude that "we will win this, no matter how many men it takes," and to persuade them otherwise requires that they be bludgeoned into submission.
The real German army killed 2 Amis or Brits or Poles or French (discounting the war in the east where it was closer to 10 to 1) for every man that it lost in the second jews' war, in Western Europe, and if it hadn't been for meddling by a non strategist like Hitler, the proportion would have been quite likely higher.
Long way round saying Jared Taylor is a gentleman, and an intelligent, erudite man, but those loudmouth, graceless yankees like the asshole Donohue will push him around and keep his message unknown DUE TO TAYLOR'S UNWILLINGNESS TO SHOOT HIS MOUTH OFF AND FIGHT DIRTY LIKE A YANKEE/DONOHUE DOES.
This calm, polite, "dignified" strategy does not work when you're dealing with people who only laugh at that. It's respectable among your friends, but you are not fighting your friends. You're fighting an enemy who is not bound by the same sense of chivalry and dignity you are.
Robert E. Lee ended up getting his ass kicked by a bunch of New York City rabble who didn't give a damn about his glorious hallucinations of what war should be, and there is no reason to repeat his mistakes in 2003. We're in this to win, that is the only option. Screw that Southern style nice guy chivalrous büllshit, if you go to war, whatever it takes, win the thing.
Jared Taylor is a fine, polite, well read southern gentleman, the man goes out of his way to be a nice guy, and the media eats him for breakfast BECAUSE HE WILL NOT FIGHT ON THEIR LEVEL. He's useless !!! He's trying to remain polite while battling a hand picked crowd of enemies who are going to disagree with everything he has to say, and call him the vilest of names. GET IT YET ??? I KNOW YOU DO. DON'T TRY TO BE POLITE. THROW THE SAME HYSTERICAL ACCUSATIONS BACK AT THEM, JUST AS STRIDENTLY !!! Don't stand there and be a punching bag. I know some of the people on this board are not really experienced with dealing with jews, but you had better get experienced fast.
From what I have read, Franco, Wintermute and Il Ragno are aware as well as a couple of others whose names I can't recall at the moment.
John
2003-02-11 15:15 | User Profile
** Please forgive me if I pass on this epic battle of the Shabbos goyim. Philosemite Jared Taylor is the clear winner - his spurious white nationalism is the John Birch steam valve of recent history. He's worth more to our ruling rabbinate than a score of faggoty Phils.** Come on guys, remember -- Jared may indeed have been hopelessly useless for those of us who know the whole score... but for nice white semi-liberals, soccer moms, just "regular folks" -- he is a wonderful introduction! Alex Linder, as CORRECT as he is, only frightens and turns off potential recruits. Taylor, with his gentle, controlled, "nice guy" (granted, partly misleading, partly self-protective), answers -- allows them to CONSIDER stuff that has been completely off limits before.
YES, he had to lie about jews (do you REALLY think he doesn't know the score?) but is shitPhil EVER going to have Alex on?! Or Franco? You MUST start the teaching where the STUDENTS are! And you must entice the unknowing to come closer with honey and seeds (and from a small seed a mighty tree may grow, eh? -- but not an oak, that takes an acorn! ;) ) and once you've got them partially tamed THEN you can start pointing them in the right direction.
I understand (and SHARE ) you desire to FORCE the unwashed masses to look, listen, hear, understand, KNOW, D@MNIT WAKE UP!!! But you can't start 'em off in grad school, you gotta start 'em in grade scool. Jared does a really good job of allowing them to hear and maybe even think about what he's saying (and phil's histrionics point out the difference.)
Will MOST get it? No, most of the sheep who watch Phil are lulled by him back to sleep. But SOME will! Must we ALWAYS shoot at our OWN because they don't go as far as is necessary in the end? Yes Jared is collaborating with the enemy -- but he's also ON mainstream televitz, AND saying 'illegal' things, which the audience may not have heard or considered before...
2003-02-11 16:16 | User Profile
I should like the readers of this post to know that Jared Taylor does more for the White cause than perhaps anybody else in the land. He moreover has the balls to face rigged "debates" such as the Donahue show and come out and show composure and grace under extreme circumstances. And don't think that Taylor is a lackie for any of our enemies. He knows full-well the politics of the issues that confront us and who lead up the pack of the leaders. Porky Cato among others on this forum would do well to support Amren and send in a few bucks. More importantly, read Amren, and attend its bi-yearly conferences. As for Donahue, he has made a career of inflaming fools for lefty issues during most , if not all of his foul life. The Shabbas Goy was easily recognized on the show, and it was not Jared Taylor.
2003-02-11 17:59 | User Profile
JARED TAYLOR showed the entire viewing audience that he not only has brains but balls like grapefruit to take the heat he did. We need dozens more like him if we are to ever change from becoming the fastest growing 3rd world country on planet earth.
2003-02-11 18:12 | User Profile
Originally posted by J.W. Gacey@Feb 11 2003, 03:56 ** You "polite" and "dignified" battlers are useless to us...
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We just might say the same about your handle and posts here, J.W.
We don't need gentlemen, gentlemen always lose a streetfight. We need bastard, no rules killers.
For what exactly?
2003-02-11 18:30 | User Profile
I'd like everyone who criticizes Taylor for dodging the Jewish Question to explain what their plans for waking up mass amounts of people are. I'm pretty sure that he has read Kevin MacDonald's trilogy. What Donahue was trying to do was paint him as a stereotypical Nazi by thrusting the Jews and Holocaust™ at him. If he messed that up, it would be all over. He can reach people by speaking about stuff which they deal with on a regular basis - such as crime and the desire for good neighborhoods. Most people nowadays are so brainwashed about Jews that you can't reach someone by talking about anything that smacks of stereotypical "Jewish Conspiracy". Most people just don't have personal problems with Jews on a regular basis enough to identify with that kind of talk right away. It takes very long and complex explanation about Jews to make sense to people, and there is no way in hell that Donahue would have allowed anyone to sit on TV and explain the reasons why Jews are not "OK". Therefore, a lot of people would have just been turned off.
You can, however, warm people up to being open to "politicial incorrectness" and caring about the plight of your own race. After that, they will definately be more open to tackling the Jewish Question and reading things like the Kevin MacDonald trilogy.
I was never introduced to White Nationalism by someone coming up to me and saying "You know, Jews are screwing over White people." Being ignorant, I would have laughed. In my experience, the very first, crucial task is to open White people up to the idea that it's not a shameful thing to be concerned about your own race. Many people have to be convinced that race even exists beyond the so-called "Human Race". After that, they can do their own research, will be more open to the ideas of people who do tackle the Jewish Question, and will then be able to draw their own conclusions.
Overall, I think he did an excellent job on Donahue last night, even if I think he is being dishonest about the Jewish Question.
2003-02-11 18:43 | User Profile
I wonder how many people who would be the least bit receptive to the seed of knowledge watch Donahue.
2003-02-11 18:53 | User Profile
I'm still not crazy about the"Gacey" name but I must leap to Koko's defense here.
This calm, polite, "dignified" strategy does not work when you're dealing with people who only laugh at that. It's respectable among your friends, but you are not fighting your friends. You're fighting an enemy who is not bound by the same sense of chivalry and dignity you are.
I don't see how anyone could argue this. None of us would be on this site if we weren't scared to death of watching our way of life and our people devolve into a median-melanin Jerry Springer audience - hooting, hollering, clapping and laughing at just how far into human degradation the ladder into the abyss actually descends.
You cannot appeal to the learned man lurking inside the village idiot, nor to the vestigial nobility in men who have been custom-engineered to contain none.
Jesus, even Buckley knows this. The reason why Jonah & Johnny Pod sully his magazine instead of Burnham & Kirk is not because there aren't any Burnhams or Kirks left but because he no longer cares to look for any...let alone nurture & cultivate them.
Now - especially now in the mongrelized, Judaized, hopelessly-dumbed-down West - there's no percentage in elitism: it's a numbers game, kids. Preserving one's dignity and integrity while you're being stomped won't even elicit trace elements of sympathy in the mob these days...they're the ones stomping you, remember?
This is a shameful, unfortunate reality. Jeering at the kid pointing out the Emperor's fat naked ass won't make it go away, or unhappen.
2003-02-11 18:54 | User Profile
<---- ex-liberal.
2003-02-11 18:55 | User Profile
Haven't seen the show (looking at Phil upsets the digestion) but Taylor serves a useful function, as Edana laid out, but Ruffin makes a good point as well. You might modify that statement to, "I wonder how many people...watch Donahue?"
My guess is that the only reason Taylor's on TV at all is that Phil's ratings suck and he's desperate. You think Hannity or O'Reilly would dare have him on?
**We don't need gentlemen, gentlemen always lose a streetfight. We need bastard, no rules killers.
For what exactly?**
I guess he's taken Mencken's quote about hoisting the flag and slitting throats to heart?
The Germans do not think that way. They approach all warfare with the attitude that "we will win this, no matter how many men it takes," and to persuade them otherwise requires that they be bludgeoned into submission.
What was that saying about Germans? "They're either at your throat or at your feet." I think that since they've been groveling at Uncle Schmuel's feet for so long they've forgotten how to do anything else. Maybe the very public split on the war on Eye-Rack is the beginnings of them standing up again. Stay tuned!
2003-02-11 18:57 | User Profile
Preserving one's dignity and integrity while you're being stomped won't even elicit trace elements of sympathy in the mob these days...they're the ones stomping you, remember?
Did you even watch the show? Taylor was definately not being stomped. Donahue was reduced to emoting, sputtering, and looking concerned. He countered all ignorant audience comments with so much ease that it just made them look like total fools.
2003-02-11 19:04 | User Profile
Clarification: I don't get the channel, so I didn't see the show.
But neither Gacey nor I were speaking specifically about this one program [at least, I wasn't] but the bigger picture.
And I got news for you, kiddo: audiences for discussion-shows on incendiary topics like White Nationalism are hand-picked and screened harder than shiny dirt through a panhandler's sieve. Patted down before airtimetoo, I'd wager.
Springer audiences are a lot more representative of Where We Are. Sad to say.
2003-02-11 19:08 | User Profile
With regard to the color of ones skin, I could care less if people are pink poka dots and green hair but I do reserve the right to be culturally selective. That is to say, if your culture or lack of one offends me, I don't want to associate with you or be in your neighborhood. If that makes me a racist, you can go to hell.
2003-02-11 19:09 | User Profile
And I got news for you, kiddo: audiences for discussion-shows on incendiary topics like White Nationalism are hand-picked and screened harder than shiny dirt through a panhandler's sieve. Patted down before airtimetoo, I'd wager.
I know the audience is screened. They didn't completely succeed. There was another White Nationalist in the audience who even got a chance to speak. There was clapping whenever Taylor made a good point. Trust me. He definately wasn't being stomped, and this was obvious by the way some of the audience was reduced to incoherent temper tantrums - which Taylor brushed off to make the people having hissy fits look like fools. Poor Donahue couldn't refute a thing.
2003-02-11 19:44 | User Profile
I hereby declare support for Jared "Name the Black" Taylor. Both sides are right. Yes, he dodges the Jewish problem. Yes, he has appeal and can get on Donohue. But I'm not inclined to criticize him on a damn thing, nor am I in a position to. Who the hell am I? I see no problem with Alex Linder "kicking his ankles" on the Jewish issue, as one friend put it --- because he's Alex Linder and he does what he does. Damn well, I'd say. But I know women are afraid of him, and I know how they croon over Taylor. Safe for babies, he's (apologies for the VNN Yiddish take, but it seemed appropriate). He has read McDonald (he has said so) and almost certainly knows the score. But strategically, Whites need warm-ups, and Taylor is superior in that role. To those who demand "honesty" and "full disclosure" on the Jewish issue, I would refer you to your own language about "the enemy not caring about politeness." What I'm saying here is, go ahead and avoid the issue. Flat-out lie about it. Lie and deny. Jews lie to survive, why shouldn't we?
Turning an aircraft carrier 180 degrees in mid-ocean can't be done with one sharp shove. Someone who broaches Jewish influence at the same time as discussing black/White IQ differences runs the risk of slipping into a media mold --- the crazy far-right conspiracy theorist who meditates on the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and keeps a lookout for black helicopters. Don't scream that the media mold is wrong --- of course, it is. But see what will work and what won't, and move forward.
I think we need to make realistic assessments of where we are (in the toilet) and how we might realistically move toward what we want. Comparisons to military action have their place, but I'm not so convinced they apply right now. Those who seek race war today will be fighting alongside 500 other people. Good luck. The fight now is a battle for the White mind. Going on Donohue and avoiding the Jewish issue is one way of doing that. VNN is another. Question you need to ask yourself is, "How did I fight for my race today?"
2003-02-11 20:10 | User Profile
I hope Taylor gets his message across. Really, I do.
Now, against that possibility, consider the likelihood of little Johnny coming home from school and getting a lecture on the evils of racism. Mom witnessed it today on Donahue! Then there's the daughter who'll consider herself bound to prove she's above primitive racism, by being extra nice to Leroy down the street.
Whatever I say here isn't going to affect it, either way, and if Taylor's attractive to women he's got a head start all right. It's just something to consider about how big a deal being on Donahue is.
2003-02-11 20:20 | User Profile
Originally posted by Ruffin@Feb 11 2003, 14:10 It's just something to consider about how big a deal being on Donahue is.
Well believe it or not, just a while ago I met with a sales rep and we got into talking about how screwed up everything was and while making a point he stated that he was watching Donahue last night and there was some guy on talking about hispanics in the schools, etc. That's all I needed to tell him it was Mr. Taylor and his organization was American Renaissance. Gave him the AmRen site addy and told him to check it out when he had the chance.
So say what you will, there's one good guy who may now be pointed in the right direction thanks to Mr. Taylor on Donahue.
2003-02-11 20:21 | User Profile
I think Jared Taylor is doing lot's of heavy lifting for his people and deserves our support and gratitude. Personally, I get a real kick out of watching a guy who looks and sounds like he should be hosting Masterpiece Theatre act as our spokeman. This guy is a real sterotype buster.
He will win more converts with his gentlemanly demeanor than a dozen fire eaters and yet will quietly slip a stilleto between the ribs of his opponents that does more damage than a bludgeon to the head.
More appearances on Donahue are certainly of diminishing value IMHO and should be declined. Ole Jared is probably trying to drum up interest in Amren. I suspect that is why he keeps coming back for more.
2003-02-11 22:01 | User Profile
Donahue could not wait to hurl the Jewish question at Taylor as it was a win-win issue. No one in his/her right mind can come on and tell a national audience that the Jews are humping over us in so many ways. Farrakhan or Sharpton might and do get away with it, but that is a different issue for obvious reasons. Taylor would have done harm to the White cause had he ignited that torch. If anyone knows a way to do so in a public media forum, please pass on the method. Donahue and his handlers know this, so they try to abase the speaker before his followers, by attempting to show him as insincere. I believe I saw Peter Brimelow in the audience during a camera swing-by, and there were a number of white supporters throughout, but the audience was the usual rigged one, as were the phone ins. Take heart though, some people were exposed to Taylor and Amren for the first time, and might support the issues it expouses. Then too, some lemmings might have seen a beam of sense coming to them, and set them thinking. True, there is no hope for most of the audience and who would want them anyway?
2003-02-11 22:26 | User Profile
Porky Cato among others on this forum would do well to support Amren and send in a few bucks
I did, during the very first year of my awakening. But then I became increasingly irritated by Taylor's paradoxical characterization of Southern Europeans as nonwhite and swarthy hooknosed Jews as white.
He is the classic steam valve Shabbos Goy. At best, he allows us to feel that we have some sort of real representation, so that we needn't build AUTHENTIC patriotic organizations that just might make a difference. At worst, he numbs our understanding to the point that we come to believe that the Jew is a fellow victim and our natural ally, suppressing our natural JudeoImmune systems.
And this guy goes far beyond merely not naming the Jew. He peppers his rag with articles by "good jews" like Michael Levin, spouting his "Jews are the biggest victims of Liberalism" and "Jews are much smarter than white goyim" with perfect impunity and seasons it with the tired John Birch "Antisemites are crypto antiwhite racists who want to sow dissension between whites" libel.
It is noteworthy that American Renaissance fawns abjectly over one Rabbi Mayer Schiller, its poster boy "good jew". For those who don't reside in Orange County, Jew York, Rebbe Shiller is the leader of the estimable learned elders of New Square as well as their swindler in chief. Among the accomplishments of these "good jews" they managed to segregate themselves into a section of New Square and to set up, AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE, private religious schools where their children wouldn't have to be contaminated by contact with the goy larvae (PS New square is in upstate Jew York, so goy here means white). They also managed to get themselves appointed to all PUBLIC SCHOOL board positions so that they would control what was taught in schools THAT ONLY OTHER PEOPLE'S CHILDREN ATTENDED. When the goy citizens, on whose dime the Hymster was lording magisterially, took the not unremarkable step of attempting to secede, "white" man Shiller cried "Oy vey! Another holocaust, itz" to the Jewdiciary. The jury found for the plaintiffs, but awarded them the sum of $1, most likely since some Jew wise member of the jury new that any "innocent" verdict would undoubtedly be rescinded on appead to the big Jews in the apellate court. The nominal guilty verdict assured that the feculent Jews couldn't appeal the decision. Chalk one up for the good goys!
Any utility Judeophile Taylor may serve as a gateway white nationalist is more than offset by his aggressively proactive shilling for the Eternal Masters of Deception. Taylor is truly Cicero's "Enemy withing the gates" and therefore more foul than any open enemy.
2003-02-11 23:11 | User Profile
**If anyone knows a way to do so in a public media forum, please pass on the method. **
It's a tricky business.
Tell your neighbor his house is on fire and he's forever indebted to you. But tell him his house is going to be on fire, inevitably and soon, and he'll look at you oddly, go back in his house, and tell his kids to stay away from yours at all times.
2003-02-11 23:32 | User Profile
**But I know women are afraid of him, [Alex Linder] and I know how they croon over Taylor. **
They must be the sort of simpering ninnies who find Denzel Washington attractive and Malcolm X brilliant. Pay them no mind.
Alex is educated, urbane, witty. And brave--he uses his own name! No coy posturing behind some absurd nom de net for this gallant southern gentleman. He and his merry band are the best hope for WN.
Thatââ¬â¢s not to say that Jared Taylor is just another also-ran. He serves an important purpose, too. We should be grateful to both of them for having the courage to confront the hydra-headed, forked-tongued Beast--each in his own way--and not back down.
2003-02-12 00:15 | User Profile
I recorded it, but haven't seen it yet, so I can't comment. But as to Taylor himself, I agree with those who see him as a gateway type pro-White spokesman. He's very smooth and self-assured under leftist dirtbag fire. He does indeed belie the stereotypes of pro-Whites as sieg-heiling skinheads & toothless Klansmen, which is vitally important when appearing on the Cool Medium. Yes, of course, the fact that he refuses to hammer jews irritates me to no end, but to the average White lemming with a lingering spark of race consciousness that can be carefully fanned into flame, mentioning the jews right off the bat causes that spark to be doused. He can easily understand the threat posed by the gun-toting nigra thug and the sullen wetback, but nice Mr. Lipschitz who runs the deli? Who did he ever rape or kill? And there's just no way in hell anyone can adequately explain the mortal peril these creatures represent to our people in an hour with that tick Donahue.
Gaining the necessary understanding of the zhids takes many hours of careful study, and that means reading. Nothing else will do. Which is where the internet comes in. That was a big part of how I learned the truth about the swine.
Taylor and the other Almosts only become blind alleys if the newly awakened White fails to delve further into the hebraic root causes of our dilemma.
2003-02-12 00:25 | User Profile
Taylor and the other Almosts only become blind alleys if the newly awakened White fails to delve further into the hebraic root causes of our dilemma.
Exactly, and the type of White person who refuses to do any personal research on the Jewish Question after warming up to Jared Taylor is not the type who would have listened to him had he been blunt about the Jews in the first place.
2003-02-12 07:48 | User Profile
Regarding Donahue's ratings, O'Reilly was bragging about his own ratings tonight and said that he got a total of five million viewers last night while Donahue got 650,000. Those numbers are the combined total for both airings of their shows.
2003-02-12 10:33 | User Profile
Originally posted by david wilson@Feb 11 2003, 19:44 ** What I'm saying here is, go ahead and avoid the issue. Flat-out lie about it. Lie and deny. Jews lie to survive, why shouldn't we? **
Exactly dead on the money.
Thanks for saying that.
This is a team effort. We all have our role to play. Ex-Commies like Podhoretz merely changed their designation to Neocon and then succeeded in infiltrating and capturing the GOP for the broader Jewish effort. Men like Podhoretz, Kristol and Horowitz always lied about their real agenda, even back when they were Commies supporting Negro rights. They always lie about their true motive of advancing the Jewish cause at all costs. We need to adopt the same tactics.
David Duke has his job of standing up for European, Christian and English-speaking America against the Jews, and he does a great job of that. But look how he's been removed from the public debate. Taylor's job is to get racial issues back on the national agenda, and he's doing a great job of that. Were Taylor to do as some suggest, he'd be as marginalized as Duke or VNN, instead of appearing with increasing frequency in the mass media.
**Shoemaker, tend to thy last! **
We'll get there, and when we do there will be time to settle old scores.
But let's get there first. And that means being savvy enough to trim our rhetoric to meet the occasion. Let's support those who, like Jared Taylor, advance our cause and not subject them to divisive criticism.
And as you point out, who the hell am I? I give Taylor and VDARE some money, and I try to spread the word as I can. By the way, my Georgetown catechumens that I discussed in the past have just been introduced to Kevin MacDonald. I'm just getting shocked silence now. I'll give it a while. They see the truth, they're just FREAKED OUT about holding such politically-incorrect views. I'm now making a pitch directly to their vanity - they'll get to be part of an exclusive club of truth-seekers if they sign on. And the beauty of it is that it's the truth!
They shall not pass!
Walter
2003-02-12 10:44 | User Profile
Originally posted by seq@Feb 11 2003, 23:32 ** They must be the sort of simpering ninnies who find Denzel Washington attractive and Malcolm X brilliant. Pay them no mind.
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I respectfully take exception to your slight on Denzel Washington, who has in my opinion one of the best sh*t-eating grins in the history of the cinema.
He was brilliant in "Training Day." Just brilliant. He played the role of leering drug-addled Negro with a gun and a wry sense of cruel humor to the hilt.
I don't want to share a polity with him, but hey give credit where it's due. The man is a fine actor.
Ditto your take on Malcolm X. He was partly white, so he was very smart for a Negro. Also, I don't doubt the sincerity of his religious sentiments. His original understanding that blacks and whites have no hope of living together was correct, of course, and thus some of his stuff can be made use of. But he was no genius by white standards.
Walter
2003-02-12 15:02 | User Profile
> But I know women are afraid of him, [Alex Linder] and I know how they croon over Taylor. They must be the sort of simpering ninnies who find Denzel Washington attractive and Malcolm X brilliant. Pay them no mind. Alex is educated, urbane, witty. And brave--he uses his own name! No coy posturing behind some absurd nom de net for this gallant southern gentleman. He and his merry band are the best hope for WN. ** Wrong! I am NOT one of those "simpering ninnies who find Denzel Washington attractive and Malcolm X brilliant" and I surely DO know who is driving this bus off the cliff, but even knowing all that, I find Alex to be uncomfortably offensive. I recognize and support his anger and hatred for jews -- I share them -- but his out-in-front wry nastiness is just plain UNCOMFORTABLE for me.
I recognize and feel a little twinge of despair for Jared's prevarications and dissembling, but I also recognize that HE is speaking in a way the sheep can HEAR! Raw harsh snarling is not pleasant for women to hear.
I think, in many ways, it's innate to women (and it's a quality y'all find WONDERFUL in your own women directed at you and other white civilized folks) to be considerate of the feelings of others. The very qualities y'all WANT in a wife and mother to your children, you deprecate and malign when it's directed at (granted, the wrong) targets.
You must lead women GENTLY and politely into an understanding of the truth, and even then, you should probably shield them from the kind of blatant and hurtful kinds of exposition that Alex practices. Like many women, I am... conflicted... about the need to wreak violence on our enemies. However, because I have been exposed to so much of the truth, I also think it's unfortunate but necessary. I COULD support mass extermination of the immvasion -- if they won't GO, then kill 'em!
Is that horrid? Yes. But like most women, I want to protect MY OWN first -- and I have been (carefully and gently) led to the point of seeing and understanding the absolute threat to MY OWN by these problems... Who was it said: the female of the species is MORE ruthless? (Teach them the RIGHT enemies, and you have created a formidable force!)
As I've said elsewhere -- you must lead your women to the point where their innate protective instincts are both awakened AND directed in the right directions! The protective instincts are always there, and generally active -- it's the target that's been confused.
2003-02-12 15:27 | User Profile
I expanded on this on my own thread about awakening women... because it's important to consider this stuff in that venue especially!
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2003-02-12 16:32 | User Profile
The dilemna Taylor faces is brought on by the fact that the Jewish problem is not as obvious. It is not Jews who are clogging our prisons, collecting welfare, corrupting schools or occupying ghettoes. Their role in these problems is simply not as visible. Strategically, therefore, Taylor may be shrewd in concentrating his fire on Latinos and Blacks.
"We should all emulate New York," said Phil. A friend of mine who spent some years there once said that New York is like a prostitute. People come, they use it, and they leave. I liked Dr. Pierce's likening the place to a "cesspool" or "pigsty."
And I loved it when Phil talked about the "cultural enrichment" minorities offer. I wondered what he meant. Snoop doggy dog? BET? The slam dunk? Venereal disease?
cc: Jared Taylor
2003-02-12 22:48 | User Profile
Originally posted by Walter Yannis@Feb 12 2003, 10:44 ** > Originally posted by seq@Feb 11 2003, 23:32 ** They must be the sort of simpering ninnies who find Denzel Washington attractive and Malcolm X brilliant.ÃÂ Pay them no mind.
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I respectfully take exception to your slight on Denzel Washington, who has in my opinion one of the best sh*t-eating grins in the history of the cinema.
He was brilliant in "Training Day." Just brilliant. He played the role of leering drug-addled Negro with a gun and a wry sense of cruel humor to the hilt.
I don't want to share a polity with him, but hey give credit where it's due. The man is a fine actor.
Ditto your take on Malcolm X. He was partly white, so he was very smart for a Negro. Also, I don't doubt the sincerity of his religious sentiments. His original understanding that blacks and whites have no hope of living together was correct, of course, and thus some of his stuff can be made use of. But he was no genius by white standards.
Walter **
Walter, if you read Malcom X's "autobiography", the man himself says that whites are smarter than blacks, stating that "...it's true the white man posseses an amazing intelligence ... there doesn't seem to be any problem he can't solve,". Well, I wish that problem solving for whitey were so easy, but the fact is, X and I suspect most other black "leaders" know the truth, because they are just smart enough to realize it, and smart enough to take advantage of the race card while hymie does the real thinking for them.
I also see no problem in crediting D. Washington for being a good actor. Give credit where credit is due, as tough as that is for some.
2003-02-13 01:56 | User Profile
*I respectfully take exception to your slight on Denzel Washington, who has in my opinion one of the best sht-eating grins in the history of the cinema.
He was brilliant in "Training Day." Just brilliant. He played the role of leering drug-addled Negro with a gun and a wry sense of cruel humor to the hilt.
I don't want to share a polity with him, but hey give credit where it's due. The man is a fine actor.**
I did not refer to his talent or lack thereof. Although, until I see his Lear I'll continue to withhold judgment. Till then he's just another A/A hack to me.
Chacun a son gout.
2003-02-13 02:05 | User Profile
You must lead women GENTLY and politely into an understanding of the truth, and even then, you should probably shield them from the kind of blatant and hurtful kinds of exposition that Alex practices. Like many women, I am... conflicted... about the need to wreak violence on our enemies. However, because I have been exposed to so much of the truth, I also think it's unfortunate but necessary. I COULD support mass extermination of the immvasion -- if they won't GO, then kill 'em!
Okay, but it sounds like a mucking' lot of trouble--I read your other thread.
2003-02-13 03:43 | User Profile
**seq: Denzel Washington I did not refer to his talent or lack thereof. Although, until I see his Lear I'll continue to withhold judgment. **
Oh pulease spare us! That beautiful Shakepeare work degraded by PC race games? How sharper than a serpent's tooth... :blink:
2003-02-13 03:56 | User Profile
**Me: You must lead women GENTLY and politely into an understanding of the truth, and even then, you should probably shield them from the kind of blatant and hurtful kinds of exposition that Alex practices
Seq: Okay, but it sounds like a mucking' lot of trouble--I read your other thread.** I was thinking about this in the car today and it occurs to me, since SO MANY American men are totally feminized, perhaps it is a useful way to introduce THEM to all this stuff too -- by interesting them in protecting their OWN families, and their own ability to provide for their own children and so on...
Just a thought.
And I guess the determination of whether it is too much trouble is how important the woman is to you, or her awakening is to you, or her support of your aspirations for awakening others. I think it's not really as hard as I make it sound by explaining in such great detail -- but I want to provide very complete directions. Once you understand the concepts, Ithink it is easier than I've made it sound... but then, I haven't done it, only undergone it... And I cannot get Neo to write about his end, because he thinks it's inappropriate for a man to tell other men how to "manage" their women...
2003-02-13 06:40 | User Profile
Originally posted by Roy Batty@Feb 12 2003, 22:48 ** Walter [/QUOTE] Walter, if you read Malcom X's "autobiography", the man himself says that whites are smarter than blacks, stating that "...it's true the white man posseses an amazing intelligence ... there doesn't seem to be any problem he can't solve,".
I also see no problem in crediting D. Washington for being a good actor. Give credit where credit is due, as tough as that is for some. **
Thanks for pointing that out.
I read the Autobiography when the Spike Lee film came out about 10 years ago. I don't recall that very important point.
So, Malcolm X understood that whites were on average smarter than blacks, yet at the end of his life he became a vocal proponent of Islam as a racial equalizer. Surely he must have seen that if Islam triumphed and the world mixed into a dishwater-brown mass, then the white mind would cease to function as the engine of technical progress.
Why would he want that?
Hmmmm . . .
Walter
2003-02-14 03:39 | User Profile
Just a few words about Jared Taylor's performance on Donahue II. He was much more effective this time without the distractions of the rent-a-guest contingent. The only stutter came predictably on die Judenfrage , and he handled that poorly (white just like us, indeed!). This is clearly a touchy point with Taylor, and one he has never been comfortable addressing. But all-in-all, a solid A-.
However, Avalanche , the most delightful aspect was learning, on returning from a business trip, that the Mrs. had found the recording on the TiVo and watched it all the way through on her own. Without any prompting she gave an enthusiastic precis and we watched it again together this evening.
That old Southern courtliness does seem to have an enduring appeal for the ladies.
2003-02-14 03:53 | User Profile
However, Avalanche , the most delightful aspect was that old Southern courtliness does seem to have an enduring appeal for the ladies.
:D
(Still need a smilie for a blush and ducking of the head... Tex?!)