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Thread ID: 4842 | Posts: 26 | Started: 2003-02-07
2003-02-07 16:13 | User Profile
Folks, I am anxiously awaiting details of the real bombshell in today's news, the sudden death of cloned sheep Dolly who was found dead in her paddock inexplicably sporting a pair of oversized rubber boots on her rear feet. A half empty pack of Marlboros found near the body have been sent to a police lab.
Here's a little blurb on Michael. He obliterated the competition last night ratings wise. And why shouldn't he? If the phantom of the opera invited a reporter to follow him around during rehearsals through opening night, all the time carrying a hacksaw, I doubt if you'd see anything more bizarre.
Will someone explain to me why Michaels' dialogue sounds like it was filched from a 1947 Joan Crawford movie?
JACKO: BASHIR STITCHED ME UP
Feb 6 2003
By Shiraz Lalani
Michael Jackson today branded Martin Bashir's programme about his life a "gross distortion of the truth" and said he felt [QUOTE]"devastated and utterly betrayed".[/QUOTE]
[color=red]Or maybe it's Lana Turner in Imitation of Life. [/color]
The pop superstar accused Bashir of breaking a promise not to include footage of his children in the film and said the programme [QUOTE]falsely made him out to be a bad parent.[/QUOTE]
[color=red]Bad parent? Ridiculous! Would a bad parent always make his kids wear a halloween mask in public? Certainly not![/color]
But Granada Television dismissed Jacko's accusations and stood by Bashir, insisting the controversial programme was "truthful and open".
A spokesman said: "There has been no distortion, misrepresentation or breach of trust. Martin Bashir agreed with Michael that [QUOTE]we'd make an honest film about his life and we've fulfilled that promise."[CODE]
[color=red]Let us pray. Dear Lord if they ever make a film about my life please don't let it be honest. [/color] Bashir spent eight months with Jackson making the sometimes shocking documentary in which Jackson admitted sharing his bed with young boys. During one disturbing scene the star sat holding hands with his [QUOTE]new friend, a 12-year-old called Gavin.[/QUOTE]
[color=red]Gavin? Sounds familiar. I wonder if he's ever been on the cover of Tiger Beat.[/color]
The one-time King of Pop also insisted his children [QUOTE]were masked whenever they went out in public and draped a veil around baby son Blanket's face as he bottle-fed him.[/QUOTE]
[color=red]Nothing abnormal here - unless you're a nitpicker.[/color]
Today he accused Bashir, who famously interviewed Princess Diana for Panorama, of misrepresenting his abilities as a father.
And he moaned that the film, in which he tried to justify dangling his baby son over a 60-foot balcony, gave a false impression of life in the Jackson household.
He said:[QUOTE]"I trusted Martin Bashir to come into my life and that of my family because I wanted the truth to be told.[/QUOTE]
[color=red]The truth. You can't handle the truth.
I've always wanted to say that. [/color] "Martin Bashir persuaded me to trust him that his would be an honest and fair portrayal of my life and told me that he was [QUOTE]'the man that turned Diana's life around'.[/QUOTE]
[color=red]What'd he do? Introduce her to a soccer team?[/color]
[QUOTE]"Today I feel more betrayed than perhaps ever before; that someone, who had got to know my children, my staff and me, whom I let into my heart and told the truth, could then sacrifice the trust I placed in him and produce this terrible and unfair programme.
"Everyone who knows me will know the truth which is that my children come first in my life and that I would never harm any child."[/QUOTE]
[color=red]If you don't believe me ask the guys in my NAMBLA chapter.[/color]
A spokesman for the star added: "Michael is devastated and feels utterly betrayed by the programme, Living With Michael Jackson, which he regards as a gross distortion of the truth and a tawdry attempt to misrepresent his life and his abilities as a father.
"Michael feels deeply angry that the programme could have led viewers to conclude that he abuses children in any way. Michael Jackson has never, and would never, treat a child inappropriately or expose them to any harm and totally refutes any suggestions to the contrary."
A spokesman for programme-maker Granada said: "We stand by our programme - it is a truthful, open and intimate portrayal of many aspects of Michael Jackson's life.
"Michael is a controversial figure with many critics. It's not surprising that a film about him, which is so open and revealing, draws some hostile reaction and comment about him.
"It's regrettable that Michael should feel devastated as a result of that, but perhaps inevitable."
The spokesman added that there was no agreement with Jackson to keep footage of his children out of the film.
Jackson's ex-wife Debbie Rowe, the mother of his eldest children Prince Michael and Paris, leapt to his defence today.
She told GMTV:[QUOTE] "He's a really wonderful, loving, caring man and he's not portrayed as he really is and it really pisses me off.
"There could be no other person that could be a better father. And I resent anyone making allegations that he is not a parent, and that he is not a proper parent."[/QUOTE]
[color=red]There. I really earned this month's annuity check[/color].
Jackson has told the children they have no mother, and revealed to Bashir how he took Paris from Rowe just moments after she was born.
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2003-02-07 16:46 | User Profile
Michael Jackson's thought processes are so alien they make it seem as if a squid had been given the power of human speech. And his appearance is that of a centuries-old corpse pulled from the ice in what scientists would describe as "a nearly perfect state of preservation."
2003-02-07 16:52 | User Profile
[url=http://anomalies-unlimited.com/Jackson.html]A Photographic History of Michael Jackson's Face[/url]
2003-02-07 17:08 | User Profile
The sight of all those masked kids was especially upsetting. The only thing missing was Jon Benet Ramsey in a g-string, lapdancing the crowd.
No wonder Macauley Culkin's trying as hard as he can to appear the hellraiser these days. If Culkin's crowd is anything like the crew I grew up with, you could wear black leather everyday & suck Gitanes till you spoke in a Popeye voice and you'd still catch regular beatings once the word got out about your 'sleepover playdates' with Puttynose the Pederast.
2003-02-07 20:31 | User Profile
I would love to see a politican ask NOW or John Kerry or any DEM candidate if they support Michael Jackson being a troop leader for the Boy Scouts.
Wouldn't that be great to see them fudge & fiddle and speak out of both sides of their mouths?
-Jay
2003-02-08 00:48 | User Profile
Hey -- I will NOT tolerate any bad-mouthing of Michael Jackson here!!
After all, Weird Negroes Who Think They Are White And Really Really Like Little Boys are people too, ya know!
Geez....such intolerance....
2003-02-08 04:52 | User Profile
The one-time King of Pop also insisted his children were masked whenever they went out in public and draped a veil around baby son Blanket's face as he bottle-fed him.
This loathsome, effeminate nig-er faggot should've been caged long before he paid the "white" slut Rowe to insert the turkey baster.
Or the eye dropper, whichever the case may be.
2003-02-09 00:21 | User Profile
I hope that this monster fries soon. Here is the latest:
Skemper
[url=http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30945]http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?...RTICLE_ID=30945[/url]
Boy's bombshell: Michael Jackson had sex with me 13-year-old's court declaration describes romps with pop star
Posted: February 7, 2003 10:20 p.m. Eastern
é 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
The bombshell court declaration of a 13-year-old whose family was paid multi-millions by pop star Michael Jackson over allegations of child sexual abuse has finally seen the light of day, revealing in graphic detail the sexual relationship the two shared, reports The Smoking Gun.
The four-page document signed by "J. Chandler" under penalty of perjury, posted on the Court TV affiliate's website, is purportedly the September 1993 statement given by teen-ager Jory Chandler, which was the basis of his family's claim against Jackson for sexual battery, willful misconduct and emotional distress. Following the settlement, the family dropped the charges.
According to the document, the two became friends after Jackson visited the rental-car business operated by Chandler's stepfather in May 1992. Chandler was 12.
Chandler states Jackson would call him from various locations on his concert tour. They would talk for hours about video games, water fights, Jackson's 3,000-acre California ranch, Neverland, and famous people they both knew.
Ten months later, according to the document, Chandler visited Neverland with his mother and half-sister at the invitation of Jackson. Jackson and the boy spent the whole weekend innocently playing together. Their activities included jet skiing, riding golf carts and playing video games.
But things progressed.
The document describes the two began sleeping in the same bed together a month later, while the boy, his mother and sister were staying at the Mirage Hotel with Jackson in Las Vegas. The two had watched the movie "The Exorcist" in Jackson's bedroom. The boy was scared afterward and Jackson invited him to sleep with him in his bed. There was no physical contact on that first night. But from that night forward, according to the declaration, they began sleeping together regularly at Chandler's house, Neverland and at hotels in New York, Florida and Europe.
Chandler purportedly states in the document that "physical contact increased gradually." It progressed from hugging, to kissing, to Jackson putting his tongue in the boy's mouth.
Whenever the boy resisted, the document reads, Jackson would cry and complain that the boy did not "love him as much" as other boys do.
The document reveals the turning point in the relationship happened during a family trip with Jackson in Monaco in May 1993. Chandler states that both he and Michael Jackson had colds, so they stayed in the hotel room all day while his mother and sister went out.
"That's when the whole thing really got out of hand," Chandler states in the document.
He then relates the details of a sexual encounter with Jackson while the two were taking a bath together, and afterwards. He states Jackson named some of his friends who had also had the same sexual contact with him.
This sexual activity took place "many times" until their relationship ended in July 1993 when Chandler's father obtained custody of the boy and he began living permanently with him.
The Smoking Gun claims all the exclusive documents it posts are "100 percent authentic."
WorldNetDaily contacted the Santa Monica, Calif., law firm whose name is stamped along the side of the document to verify its authenticity. The firm confirmed it handled the Chandler case. The secretary of the attorney involved with Chandler's court declaration said the firm had not verified "word-for-word" that what was posted on the Internet was the real declaration.
Michael Jackson: "It's what the whole world should do." (file photo)
If authentic, the document undermines the singer's latest attempt to rehabilitate his troubled reputation, although the attempt itself has largely backfired.
Jackson's psychic-friend Uri Geller convinced him to sit for an interview with Martin Bashir. Bashir is best known for interviewing Princess Diana. According to Geller, Bashir "promised it would be a constructive production."
As WorldNetDaily reported Tuesday, the British documentary "Living With Michael Jackson" had its debut in London and the U.S. this week. It aired on ABC's 20/20 last night.
In the program, 44-year-old Jackson admitted he loves sleeping with boys and recently encouraged a 12-year-old cancer sufferer to sleep in his bedroom. Both claim no sexual contact occurred during the sleepovers at Neverland.
"It's what the whole world should do," Jackson told Bashir.
Although he claimed only "very few" boys had actually stayed in his bed, Jackson strongly defended the practice, saying: "Why can't you share your bed? The most loving thing to do, is to share your bed with someone."
Despite persistent questioning from Bashir, Jackson defended his desire to sleep close to young boys, describing the practice as "very charming" and "very sweet." In fact, he recommended that the interviewer do likewise, sleeping in the same bed as friends of his own children.
"I tuck them in and put a little like, er, music on and when it's story time I read a book and we go to sleep with the fireplace on. I give them hot milk, you know. We have cookies. It's very charming. It's very sweet. It's what the whole world should do," said Jackson.
Bashir concluded in the film that Jackson is obsessed with children. But the singer dismissed fears of sexual molestation, saying: "When you say bed, they make that sexual. It's not sexual. We're going to sleep."
When questioned by Bashir about the settlement with Chandler, Jackson said: "I didn't want to do a long drawn-out thing [trial] on TV like O.J. [Simpson] and all that stupid stuff. It wouldn't look right. I said, 'Look, let's get this over with. I want to go on with my life. This is ridiculous. I've had enough.'"
Tom Sneddon, the district attorney in charge of the Chandler investigation, is paying close attention to the new allegations of Jackson "sleeping with boys," a spokesman told the London Times.
Meanwhile, Santa Barbara County officials are reportedly considering launching an investigation into Jackson's fitness to be a parent. He has three children. In November Jackson caused gasps around the world when he dangled his baby son, Prince Michael II, over the balcony of a Berlin hotel, appearing briefly to lose control.
Following the broadcast on Makers Granada Television in England, Jackson released an angry statement calling the program "terrible and unfair" and saying he felt "betrayed."
"Everyone who knows me will know the truth which is that my children come first in my life and that I would never harm any child," said the statement.
The television station issued its own statement defending the program: "We stand by our program - it is a truthful, open and intimate portrayal of many aspects of Michael Jackson's extraordinary life."
2003-02-09 00:33 | User Profile
"Everyone who knows me will know the truth which is that my children come first..."
How sporting of you; d'you offer em a candy cigarette around then....or turn the record over and go for two ?
"I give them hot milk, you know."
Yeah, alRIGHT, we get it awreddy!
2003-02-09 09:38 | User Profile
"Everyone who knows me will know the truth which is that my children come first..."
I didn't know that children could, not until they reach puberty.
... Oh, wait.
2003-02-09 10:08 | User Profile
New lurid paperback about Michael Jackson:
[url=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1885840055/qid=1044785043/sr=1-15/ref=sr_1_15/002-5535156-7276821?v=glance&s=books]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...=glance&s=books[/url]
Amazon lists the publisher as "unknown" but it's been reliably identified as the National Enquirer's paperback unit. Then again, the title Freak: Inside The Twisted World Of Michael Jackson probably gave that away.
2003-02-09 20:32 | User Profile
Stop the racist Jackson-bashing! Michael Jackson is no freak!
It's normal for a Negro man to rebuild his face via surgery, paint himself, wear surgical masks, hole up inside a private zoo, and become aroused by the sight of White pre-pube boys....isn't it? Isn't it...? Don't we all do that..?
2003-02-09 22:47 | User Profile
Does anyone know if MJ is the actual biological father to any of the children that he claims are his? Have any of "his" children been photographed in public?
2003-02-10 10:14 | User Profile
Hah!
You need to start copyrightng this stuff, Il Ragno.
You rock!
Walter
2003-02-10 10:17 | User Profile
Originally posted by N.B. Forrest@Feb 8 2003, 04:52 ** The one-time King of Pop also insisted his children were masked whenever they went out in public and draped a veil around baby son Blanket's face as he bottle-fed him.
This loathsome, effeminate nig-er faggot should've been caged long before he paid the "white" slut Rowe to insert the turkey baster.
Or the eye dropper, whichever the case may be. **
I still can't get over the publicity-stunt marriage to Elvis's daughter, what's-her-tits.
Did anybody actually buy that?
Or that he was shtupping little Brookie Shields??
Michael Jackson is one of the weirdest freaks our country has ever produced.
What I don't get at the parents of these kids who consent to "sleep-overs." What the f**k, over?
Walter
2003-02-12 04:13 | User Profile
Originally posted by Walter Yannis@Feb 10 2003, 10:17 ** What I don't get at the parents of these kids who consent to "sleep-overs." What the f**k, over?
Walter **
Play hide the peperoni... get a million bucks (free trip to vegas... etc.).... I understand it.. it disgusts me... but I understand it. He was sleeping over at the kids home for heaven's sake. The mother and step father were obviously in agreement with the practice.
What I find intriguing is that the practice with chandler STOPPED when his real father got custody of him. It'd be interesting to know the story on how and why his father got custody.
2003-04-22 00:51 | User Profile
AY, Verger's face among other things was mutilated by Lecter, that's why he wanted revenge. Still, MJ is right there in terms of outrageous creepiness.
2003-04-22 01:24 | User Profile
Originally posted by AntiYuppie@Apr 21 2003, 18:54 ** > Originally posted by Roger Bannister@Apr 22 2003, 00:51 ** AY, Verger's face among other things was mutilated by Lecter, that's why he wanted revenge. Still, MJ is right there in terms of outrageous creepiness. **
As I recall, Lecter gave Verger hallucinogenic drugs and convinced him to cut his own face off. The end result was surprisingly similar to Michael Jackson (for some reason my photo link doesn't work).
Apart from face mutilation, there are other MV/MJ parallels: both are accused child molesters, both are very rich, both keep exotic animals as pets, and even the name is part of the spoof "Mason"="M.ason"="M.Jackson." **
AY, my point is Lecter was responsible (all this nitpicking over a movie!) for Verger's disfigurment. ** MJ has done it all on his own. ** I would have to pull out the old books, but I think Verger was mentioned in Silence of the Lambs or The Red Dragon (not the films, the books).
That a sick bastard like MJ is a celebrity, says a lot about the decline of this country, and who runs it.
2003-04-22 03:15 | User Profile
AY, that's a great quote from General Prokhanov. Thanks for the link.
2003-04-22 05:04 | User Profile
Originally posted by AntiYuppie@Apr 21 2003, 18:37 ** BTW, Madrussian: what can you tell us about General Prokhanov and his movement? **
There is a spectrum of nationalists in Russia, from the National-Bolsheviks to Solzhenitsyn and new generation of people who lost the silly worship of everything Western but don't subscribe to the rhetoric of the National-Bolsheviks or what known under a designation "The Left" in Russia. There has long been the same false choice in Russia of whether one is with "democrats/reformers/progressive people" and therefore one has to be America-, anything-goes-capitalism-worshipping Jews-are-just-like-us-but-smarter it's-OK-to-be-robbed-tomorrow-everyone-will-prosper idealist or to be a commie, similar to the current false choice cultivated by the enemies of humanity in the US.
Prohanov isn't a general, but the editor-in-chief of "Zavtra". Calling Micheal Jackson a monkey in Russia doesn't signify much, because it's not a rebellion against the multiculturalism like in the US, automatically earning some credentials among the free-thinking people. The ideas of anti-globalism and "patriotism" in Russia are somewhat tarnished by the fact that the most vocal people with that kind of persuasion were sympathetic to or are communists, with exceptions like Solzhenitsyn. But there are signs that the young generation has stopped associating anti-Americanism (with America being represented by Bush and the FReaker type) and anti-globalism with the commies and start thinking for themselves.
2003-04-22 16:49 | User Profile
Originally posted by madrussian@Apr 22 2003, 05:04 ** > Originally posted by AntiYuppie@Apr 21 2003, 18:37 ** BTW, Madrussian: what can you tell us about General Prokhanov and his movement? **
There is a spectrum of nationalists in Russia, from the National-Bolsheviks to Solzhenitsyn and new generation of people who lost the silly worship of everything Western but don't subscribe to the rhetoric of the National-Bolsheviks or what known under a designation "The Left" in Russia. **
Madrussian:
What is your opinion of Limonov and his National Bolsheviks.
The fact that Limonov is an inverterate arse-bandit leaves me wary, if not indeed nauseous.
Other than that, though, I have to admit that he's really putting together a movement. I see the NB's everywhere.
What say you?
Walter
2003-04-23 17:55 | User Profile
Originally posted by AntiYuppie@Apr 22 2003, 13:59 **I must have Prokhanov confused with Maskhadov (sp)?, who is a retired General and known for making remarks critical of the Tribe's machinations in Russia. **
General Makashov, I think. Maskhadov is the Chechen general, but who's incidentally is an "anti-semite" too, probably :D
** While most "anti-Semites" and critics of US mass consumer culture in Russia tend to be associated with the Communist Party, it seems to me that the Communist Party in Russia is "Communist" in name only. They may favor nationalization of industries, etc, but in their social policies they and the "far right" parties seem to see eye to eye. Most of Russia's prominent "anti-Semites" (such as Maskhadov) are associated with the Communist Party. I'm told that at their rallies Alexander Nevsky is invoked as a hero rather than Marx. It certainly isn't the sort of party that Lev Davidovich Bronstein would feel at home in. **
The communists are also big supporters of the Soviet Union, trade unions and "social justice". Their role is more like what the Hollywood Nazis play in the US -- the fringe that discredits the ideas. The communists can't recruit anyone but old or middle-aged farts. Yeltsin's regime and American foreign policy starting with Yugoslavia bombing have proved to be much more effective.
** So while some of their economic policies are obviously undesirable, they seem to represent the lesser evil in Russian politics. Better a Zyuganov or Maskhadov at the helm of Russia than a Gusinsky or Berezovsky and their whole "pro-Western" Khazarian mafia. **
I hope there is a third choice.
2003-04-23 17:58 | User Profile
Originally posted by Walter Yannis@Apr 22 2003, 09:49 ** What is your opinion of Limonov and his National Bolsheviks.
The fact that Limonov is an inverterate arse-bandit leaves me wary, if not indeed nauseous.
Other than that, though, I have to admit that he's really putting together a movement. I see the NB's everywhere.
What say you?
Walter **
I am not familiar with his platform. Did you read his most famous book? The Brighton Beach description was hilarious.
2003-04-28 00:09 | User Profile
Mr.Wilson,
A good point. Does anyone know if MJ is the actual biological father to any of the children that he claims are his? Have any of "his" children been photographed in public?
I would say likely not, from the bits of film I have seen in the add for the Fox program. But it was hard to till because thier faces were edited out for TV. But they looked a bit too nordic to me. They were both very fair skin and straight blonde hair.
2003-04-28 00:20 | User Profile
Michael Jackson Baby Drop Game [url=http://www.madblast.com/view.cfm?type=FunFlash&display=1804]http://www.madblast.com/view.cfm?type=FunF...sh&display=1804[/url]
:jest: :P :jest:
2003-04-28 19:31 | User Profile
The kids are white. He is not genetically related to them. If you want to see for yourself, go to the Golden Apple Comics store on Melrose Ave. in Los Angeles. MJ shows up once or twice a month. He walks in covered in a sheet, like a child's ghost costume. No joke. This is supposed to be so people won't know who he is. He had one of the kids in tow one day, and the youngster was as white as my derrier.
Yes, I go the comics shop. They have a decent magazine section, and I buy most of my mags there - and thumb through the comics as well. Good selection of posters and regular art books as well. MJ has come in twice while I have been there. It's a real show. He has security with him, of course. But the little boy I saw was white.