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2003-02-05 12:43 | User Profile
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By Martin Walker UPI Chief International Correspondent From the International Desk Published 2/4/2003 8:43 PM View printer-friendly version
WASHINGTON, Feb. 4 (UPI) -- France is no longer an ally of the United States and the NATO alliance "must develop a strategy to contain our erstwhile ally or we will not be talking about a NATO alliance" the head of the Pentagon's top advisory board said in Washington Tuesday.
Richard Perle, a former assistant secretary of defense in the Reagan administration and now chairman of the Pentagon's Policy Advisory Board, condemned French and German policy on Iraq in the strongest terms at a public seminar organized by a New York-based PR firm and attended by Iraqi exiles and American Middle East and security officials.
But while dismissing Germany's refusal to support military action against Iraq as an aberration by "a discredited chancellor," Perle warned that France's attitude was both more dangerous and more serious.
"France is no longer the ally it once was," Perle said. And he went on to accuse French President Jacques Chirac of believing "deep in his soul that Saddam Hussein is preferable to any likely successor."
French leaders have insisted the country will oppose any military action against Iraq without a second resolution by the United Nations Security Council, where it holds one of five crucial veto powers. Last November France did vote for Resolution 1441, which promised "serious consequences" if Iraq did not cooperate with U.N. weapons inspectors verifying that Iraq has indeed dismantled its programs for chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.
"I have long thought that there were forces in France intent on reducing the American role in the world. That is more troubling than the stance of a German chancellor, who has been largely rejected by his own people," Perle said, referring to the sharp electoral defeat suffered by Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's party in state elections Sunday.
Although he is not an official of the Bush administration, Perle's position as the Pentagon's senior civilian adviser gives his harsh remarks a quasi-official character and reflects the growing frustration in the White House and Pentagon with the French and German reluctance to support their U.S. and British allies.
"Very considerable damage has already been done to the Atlantic community, including NATO, by Germany and France," Perle said.
"But in the German case, the behavior of the Chancellor is idiosyncratic. He tried again to incite pacifism, and this time failed in Sunday's elections in Hesse and Lower Saxony. His capacity to do damage is now constrained. Chancellor Schroeder is now in a box, and the Germans will recover their equilibrium."
Perle went on to question whether the United States should ever again seek the endorsement of the U.N. Security Council on a major issue of policy, stressing that "Iraq is going to be liberated, by the United States and whoever wants to join us, whether we get the approbation of the U.N. or any other institution."
"It is now reasonable to ask whether the United States should now or on any other occasion subordinate vital national interests to a show of hands by nations who do not share our interests," he added.
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2003-02-05 13:05 | User Profile
Darn! You just beat me to this story. :D
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I dont think what happened in Germany had anything to do with Schroeders stand on this latest Gulf war for Israel and oil. That was strictly domestic.
I guess Perle may very well think we should attack France as well. Maybe even drop the big one on them.
Latest compilation of the "Axis of Evil," based on various Neo-con rantings.
Iraq, Iran, DPRK, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Syria, Egypt, Sudan, France, Germany, Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Norway, Venezuela, Cuba, Canada, Red China, and Greece. Did I leave anyone out?
The list just keeps growing. Maybe Bush should just declare war against the entire world. That might make the cabal of Jews and plutocrats he surrounds himself with happy.
2003-02-05 13:49 | User Profile
Originally posted by Sertorius@Feb 5 2003, 07:05 **Darn! You just beat me to this story. :D
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I've been waiting for someone to post this since I saw the FReakers orgasming over it yesterday. I wonder if the White lemmings over there, if there are any posters left who aren't Israeli citizens, realize that this is their kinsmen who are being demonized? Is there anything Whites won't do, any member of their family or race or nation that they won't betray, to please their Jewish masters? Christ.
2003-02-05 14:09 | User Profile
Recluse,
I saw the story earlier today on Antiwar.com. It was up yesterday, huh? Please post the "Freeper" link for us if you have it handy.
I think the lemming like behavior shown by so many Whites is caused by two things:
[list] [*]being deracinated,
[*]and atomized "individualism." [/list]
Just the way the Jews and their allies want it.
2003-02-05 14:15 | User Profile
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2003-02-05 14:22 | User Profile
Thanks, I look forward to unraveling this thread that is no doubt rich in stupidity and Jew fawning.
2003-02-05 14:28 | User Profile
Originally posted by Recluse@Feb 5 2003, 07:43 ** "I have long thought that there were forces in France intent on reducing the American role in the world. That is more troubling than the stance of a German chancellor, who has been largely rejected by his own people," Perle said, referring to the sharp electoral defeat suffered by Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's party in state elections Sunday.
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What an odious statement by this ZOG mastermind. So, to compete with the United States and to resist our hegemony is equal to being an enemy of the United States? Then he goes on to say the turmoil around Schroeder is a good thing! This heathen-devil Perle and his loathsome neocons are sick, twisted and nihilistic monsters who are attempting to turn the American moronic lemmings against 2 European countries with still very large White majorities(Germany more than France, but still) in order to bring "diversity" to their stupid, sick and wasteful "war on terrorism". Let us not forget: France, even with their large Muslim population, had a * White Nationalist* on their Presidential Ballot! C'mon! Jean-Marie Le Pen was smeared mercilessly in the ZOG world press, and could have had as much as 40-50% of the French people behind him. But we must remember: Nationalism for Israel=good, Nationalism for Whites=death. That's the real reasonwhy Perle & Co, deteste France.
2003-02-05 14:49 | User Profile
I'm French, but I don't take this as an insult just to us because this isn't just about France, this is about any nation or individual that dares to put their own interests ahead of Israel's. France just happens to be the target right now, but if the Brits started having second thoughts about the War for Israel you'd see the same venom directed at them. It just disgusts me that Whites fall for it so easily.
2003-02-05 15:02 | User Profile
Recluse, je suis demi-francais and I don't take insult to the neocon hatred of France. It amazes me their stupidity, but not insult per se. Alors, ca me fait plus fier de France!
2003-02-05 15:04 | User Profile
Right on, Sert; thanks 'cluse.
This show the Jew way at work for America.
That is this. You keep telling them, "don't act that way, if you want to get along". But they keep on, keep on, keep on, so finally you are driven to turn on them full-scale. Then, they say "Look! anti-semitism!"
Except now, after Fance has been saying to the U.S. all along, "don't act the way you are in the middle east," here's the Jew saying "Look! -- there anti-American!"
But why shouldn't he?-- after the Henry Hyde cock-up impeachment show. "It's not about just about sex!" they kept insisting, even after the Gingrinch 'holes rolled away because they know that that is exactly what it was about, and little droves of the "we don't get it sucked" men (I guess; dress male, anyway) were arranging side shows for legislatures (Psst.....here's the real freak stuff... psst.. on TV, right now, with with favorite mud going at the cameras to prove Saddam Hussein is moving his weapons of mass destruction around, just before the UN inspectors looking for weapons of mass destruction, led by Dr. Hans Blix can arrive,.and and and) .... multicultural rut-slut lying, hey!! is this mud american or what?
You keep telling them.... I've come to see that, just as being white goes beyond blood, so does being Jew. Anybody can be a Jew! Just like darkeddy tells us anybody gets to be Christian -- know the love of God!! Hey! No biggie. He says he's Lutheran, but doesn't fool me. Sounds like one all right, but if so, he's a Lutheran Jew. Whoever cooperates will be put to work fronting for them, and they will front them to death, just like they are doing this mud in the US State Department right now.
2003-02-05 15:32 | User Profile
A letter to the WSJ said the other day, "Give them credit. France has always been there when she needed us."
While that's a funny statement, it's not entirely fair. Just b/c we helped France in WWII does not mean they are obliged to go along with every decision we make, does it? Should they have sent their boys to be butchered in Vietnam with us just b/c they got help 20 years earlier?
Come on. But many Americans do believe France & England, and others somehow "OWE" us for prior help. Sorry, that's not how the real world works. If it did, Jorge Bush would "OWE" the people who voted him into office: whites.
-Jay
2003-02-05 16:17 | User Profile
Originally posted by xmetalhead@Feb 5 2003, 09:02 Recluse, je suis demi-francais and I don't take insult to the neocon hatred of France. It amazes me their stupidity, but not insult per se. Alors, ca me fait plus fier de France!
Sorry x, we've been in North America since the 1670's and it's been three generations since anyone in the family has spoken French, but I intend to learn someday if 1) I ever master the English language, and 2) if science ever discovers a cure for laziness. Sheesh, this is my fourth post this morning! I gotta go rest.
2003-02-05 16:37 | User Profile
Perle on Schroeder:
Originally posted by Feb 5 2003@ 04:43 "He tried again to incite pacifism, and this time failed... His capacity to do damage is now constrained." **
Sometimes you have to give your head a shake when you read this stuff.
2003-02-05 17:08 | User Profile
Jay,
Whenever I hear these idiots hollering about the French and WW II, I point out that 1) WW II has been over for 58 years, 2) there are a number of things they did in old French colonial Africa that we benefitted from, 3) the U.S. wouldnt even exist if it wasnt for France, so there.
The French already had their fling in Indochina. Hell, I`ll go so far in saying that when it came to prosecuting the Cold War, France did alot more than Israel.
2003-02-05 19:23 | User Profile
Current93: That is tremendous information!
I have often used the links cited by David Hoffman, **The Oklahoma City Bombing and the Politics of Terror** -- to justify linking (components of) Mossad, the FBI, CIA, and other agencies (even of enemy countries), to arch-criminal* activity inside the US.
...*So-called, because it consists of high crimes and misdemeanors committed for political and dynastic personal purposes; beyond even "war crimes" in despicability, since in war there is at least the excuse of an enemy to justify cruelty. Now, its pre-emptive strikes against "possible" attack, with blind viciousness.
We must mention, also, that just today, the French UN ambassador completely reversed course, doing the Trent Lott two-step backwards, to get in on the kill. Bill Kristol is on Fox news giving the French the raspberries -- "they never really commit to anthing" -- just a bunch of broads you can slap around with your schtick, at will. They like it.
No one will stand up to them. Not even many on this board who think the White Native American Movement politics is about "white nationalism, including a few Jews and Catholics to run the show, of course, Gentiles welcome."
2003-02-05 21:16 | User Profile
3) the U.S. wouldn
t even exist if it wasnt for France, so there.
Great point. The French were huge allies in the Revolutionary War. Hell, Jefferson was over in France multiple times during and after the war, so was Franklin. I'll remember that next conversation.
The French already had their fling in Indochina. Hell, I`ll go so far in saying that when it came to prosecuting the Cold War, France did alot more than Israel.
The French DID get out of there - and they were smart to do so. We should remind people that Vietnam was dumb and that the French were wise to avoid it. Maybe they're wise to avoid Iraq? Maybe?
Israel doesn't do anything, they're a nonfactor.
-Jay
2003-02-05 22:17 | User Profile
Look at what Perle did:
[url=http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/10/Richard_Perle_lowdown.html]http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/10/Richard_...le_lowdown.html[/url] Richard Perle: the Lowdown
David Irving hears:
WHEN Richard Perle (right), chairman of the Pentagon's defence policy board, was working for Senator Scoop Jackson, he was investigated by the Justice Department and found to have violated US policies relating to unlawful transmission of sensitive classified US information to Israel.
See Paul Findley's They Dare To Speak Out, (Chicago, Lawrence Hill Books 1989), Chapter 5, Penetrating the Defense at Defense -- and State, page 160:
"An FBI summary of a 1970 wiretap recorded Perle discussing classified information with someone at the Israeli embassy. He came under fire in 1983 when newspapers reported he received substantial payments to represent the interests of an Israeli weapons company. Perle denied conflict of interest, insisting that, although he received payment for these services after he had assumed his position in the Defense Department, he was between government jobs when he worked for the Israeli firm." That's odd. When Jonathan Pollard did much the same, passing vital U.S. defense secrets to Israel, he was sent to jail for life. What has changed since then, one wonders?
More about the sinister Zionist Richard Perle
Richard Perle told German chancellor Schröder to resign The Israeli lobby's influence: appointments of advisors to White House and Executive Branch A disturbing Beirut report on Douglas Feith, Bush's new "Dr Goebbels" Pentagon hawks make haste Robert Fisk exposes President Bush and his pro-Israel lobby by name The Guardian also unmasks Richard Perle and his gang: "When he is not too busy at the Pentagon, or too busy running Hollinger Digital -- part of the group that publishes the Daily Telegraph in Britain -- or at board meetings of the Jerusalem Post, Mr Perle is "resident fellow" at one of the thinktanks -- the American Enterprise Institute (AEI)." The Guardian exposes a US "Arab" news agency as a clandestine Israeli Intelligence operation |
Time To Get The Facts Right, By David Welch (Ambassador of the United States of America
2003-02-06 02:58 | User Profile
"I have long thought that there were forces in France intent on reducing the American role in the world. That is more troubling than the stance of a German chancellor, who has been largely rejected by his own people," Perle said, referring to the sharp electoral defeat suffered by Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's party in state elections Sunday.
Oh, I'm telling you.....invasion of Western Europe is an inevitability if we don't see tumultuous change in America as she is presently constituted. The daily Europe-bashing in the ZOG press.... the deliberate, decades-long reprogramming of Joe Lemming to reject any declared racial identity - and by extension, any feeling of racial, filial or cultural ties with the Old World.....these things have a distressingly familiar ring. This is the dawn of the long-awaited day Hymie Corleone settles all family business.....first the Arabs, and then payback for 1000 years of pogroms & expulsions begins. Our children are already relentlessly indoctrinated to look to Negroes and mestizos as their own before they'd ever look to a white "foreigner"for kinship - so how hard is it to envision a police action in France by 2006?
Perle said: "But in the German case, the behavior of the Chancellor is idiosyncratic. He tried again to incite pacifism, and this time failed in Sunday's elections in Hesse and Lower Saxony. His capacity to do damage is now constrained. Chancellor Schroeder is now in a box, and the Germans will recover their equilibrium."
Not just crazy; Kubrick-crazy. Ernst-Stavros-Blofeld-crazy!
I'm reminded of the scene in BEDAZZLED where Peter Cook, as an upper-class incarnation of Lucifer, remarks offhandedly while adjusting his pool-cue for a bridge shot, "All it would take is one or two lunatics negotiating - and before you'd know it we'd be plunged into a nuclear peace that could shake the free world to its very foundations."
2003-02-06 16:56 | User Profile
**It was only the French who didn't buy into the Mossad trick and were determined not to ally themselves with the aggressive American act. The French refused to allow the American bombers to fly over their territory on their way to attack Libya. **
Today, we settle all Family business, smiles Richard Perleone. And the Racial Crime Syndicate masquerading as a Persecuted Religion marches on to their next victory.
**By the way, are you quoting those lines from memory? 'Cuz I've been looking for Bedazzled on DVD for ages. **
Alas...like most of my 'collection'....I cribbed it offa TCM onto a bog-standard VHS tape, cheap bastard that I am. But now that the minor methane cloud generated by its remake has cooled and dissipated, I'd imagine a DVD release is not too far off.