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Thread ID: 4787 | Posts: 21 | Started: 2003-02-04
2003-02-04 17:15 | User Profile
Before making your choice please take the following quotations from our subject under consideration:
"Hallelujah! And now I think the scoring is final and the official results are in : you people are crazy as loons!"
"I always try to be a good person and not rejoice at the sorrow or losses of others. wish others here would follow my standards. This is exactly why you people need my guidance and leadership."
"Although I do question the sanity of anyone who wants to limit Hindu immigration."
"We MUST destroy Pakistan immediately to prevent us from being nuked. Forget about India or Israel, this is critical to us!!! Immediate thermonuclear attack on Pakistna is our only salvation. Destroy them now before it's too late."
"And Il Ragno, I don't think you will find many on this forum who will challenge my mental stability."
People, this is blessed democracy in action. The choice...is yours.
2003-02-04 17:21 | User Profile
I admire his focused dedication to what is best for his race.
2003-02-04 17:44 | User Profile
**I admire his focused dedication to what is best for his race. **
Please explain it to me, then, since rban's first posts here saw him claiming to be a white Englishman!
2003-02-04 17:47 | User Profile
rban is about as Indian Aryan Hindu as I am Mongoloid. Which is to say, none at all. My advice is take his stuff with a grain of salt. No race hero there.
Whitebread,
Hilarious poll answers, my friend. "Holocaust/Outback Steakhouse" ?? :lol: :lol:
2003-02-04 18:01 | User Profile
This Rban creature is probably an FBI, CIA, ADL agent/spy who reports like a good lil' stooge to his Zionist Lords of Oceania in order to ultimately ship all us "haters" to Punjab, India to learn about the joys of diversity. and, um, no, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. What gave you that idea? :blink:
2003-02-04 22:01 | User Profile
Rban,
Moo!! :P :lol:
You walked into that one with that last remark that Wiesbrot posted of your`s. I wondered how long it would be before someone decided a poll was in order.
2003-02-04 22:25 | User Profile
Hey all! Rban and I have been having secret assignations... er, um... a private conversation and heââ¬â¢s agreed to let me post it... just cause I want yââ¬â¢all to read it.
2003-02-04 22:26 | User Profile
Avalanche: Sometimes I find you SO baffling!! Whence comes this fanatic attachment to Hindus above even... say .. ME?! :D Why do you prefer Hindus TO white Americans?
You are SO wildly and seemingly irrationally attached to THEIR wellbeing, their success, you'd even damage white America to forward them.... Why is that?
Are you, in fact, a Hindu, and Indian masquerading as a "white" person here on the list?
2003-02-04 22:27 | User Profile
rban: What if I believe that Hindus are actually more 'Caucasian' than what we call whites? How would you react if you discovered that some 50% of Americans had some sort of Negro or Native American blood, and therefore could not really be considered pure Caucasian? Some experts do claim that figure.
I think the secret lies in my belief that just because you 'look' white doesn't mean you are a real Caucasian. I apply a more stringent definition of racial identity than most; hence, in my estimation, Hindus and a few others (Iranians for example) are closer to a genetically pure Master Race than we are.
And as for our mongrelized Negro-loving rapster 'culture'...well, the less said about that the better. Don't you agree?
2003-02-04 22:27 | User Profile
Avalanche:
** rban: What if I believe that Hindus are actually more 'Caucasian' than what we call whites? How would you react if you discovered that some 50% of Americans had some sort of Negro or Native American blood, and therefore could not really be considered pure Caucasian? Some experts do claim that figure.
I think the secret lies in my belief that just because you 'look' white doesn't mean you are a real Caucasian. I apply a more stringent definition of racial identity than most; hence, in my estimation, Hindus and a few others (Iranians for example) are closer to a genetically pure Master Race than we are. **
Think you they are any less "mongrelized" than we? And what is your attachment to the concept "real Caucasians," as compared to the Euro-American developers of western civilization? Is the Caucasus connection more important that what is DONE with it? Are you more attached to the Hindu 'civilization' than the one you live in? Do you prefer their civilization to ours? (Does their 'pure blood' mean anything tangible? And is it? Are Hindus and Iranians closer/better/preferable than western whites who may indeed have some 'bad blood'?)
Is their society any less degenerate than ours? (And if so, why have YOU not emigrated?) Or do you have lots of knowledge of the good of their society, and short knowledge of the bad (suttee? dowry killings? washing in the Ganges?), and the reverse of our civilization, where, by familiarity you are so familiar with the bad you can see it as outweighing the good?
Can an individual succeed as well there as here? Then why do they come here? If they are preferable, why do they leave?
** rban: And as for our mongrelized Negro-loving rapster 'culture'...well, the less said about that the better. Don't you agree? **
Are the young of your Aryans any less desirous of getting to America to benefit from OUR mongrelized culture? Aren't young of ALL races always stupid or at least short-sighted and self-focused?
2003-02-04 22:28 | User Profile
Rban Avalanche, there are many who hate Hindus and the propaganda you here is a result of their hatred. These dowry and acid incidents that you hear of...are highly exaggerated and few in number. The number of female infanticide victims in China is much higher, but you will not hear much about it because China is a Communist dictatorship with a tightly controlled media. India is a free democracy, so any weird incident in some remote village gets picked up & publicized by the traitors and enemies of Hinduism.
Did you know that there are groups of Western tourists who actually go on 'slum tours', where they deliberately seek out the filthiest neighborhoods in the poorest cities in the country? So that they can snap pictures of beggars & poverty, and spread more antiHindu propaganda.
Why do you describe my proHindu sentiments as 'fanatical', BTW
2003-02-04 22:29 | User Profile
** rban: Avalanche, there are many who hate Hindus and the propaganda you here is a result of their hatred. These dowry and acid incidents that you hear of...are highly exaggerated and few in number. The number of female infanticide victims in China is much higher, but you will not hear much about it because China is a Communist dictatorship with a tightly controlled media. India is a free democracy, so any weird incident in some remote village gets picked up & publicized by the traitors and enemies of Hinduism. **
But you're NOT holding up China as enlightened leaders of your world... And people here don't hate Hindus and thus propagandize -- they don't CARE about Hindus or they have a mild distaste because of the 'civilization' the Hindus don't seem to have built. Suttee doesn't seem to have been a rare occurrance, and it IS a socially 'accepted' part of their world view... The acid attacks don't have to be COMMON, it's enough that they occur, and the 'authorities' (and, seemingly, MOST Indians except the feminists) don't find them worth particular note or objection.
** rban: Did you know that there are groups of Western tourists who actually go on 'slum tours', where they deliberately seek out the filthiest neighborhoods in the poorest cities in the country? So that they can snap pictures of beggars & poverty, and spread more antiHindu propaganda. **
This is irrational. No one is doing this so they can spread anti-hindu propaganda -- the folks doing this don't know hindu from sikh from muslim... They are doing it because it's ASTONISHING that a society could allow this to continue -- esp. 100+ years AFTER the introduction of soap and western standards... It's like going to the zoo -- low-class folks don' t point and tease and laugh at the caged monkeys because they HATE them but because they are FOREIGN and somewhat human-like, but different (and lesser) enough to be amazing.
I DON'T know much about any group of Indians except the usual: Taj Mahal, filth and poverty, weird religions and lots of religious warring, turbans and red dots, English overseers and 'civilizing' to a western standard, thrown out by a clever, deceitful Ghandi who pushed a version of a lie that he didn't actually live. Some impressive temples, some HORRIFYING disease and filth, and cheap trinkets. Some highly educated techies, amidst millions of fly-decked, squating-in-the-dust, cow-loving peons...
Can you see that's not a matter of hate -- it's unfamilarity and a feeling of "I just don't care"! I don't want them brought here -- but I don't want ANYONE except Europeans (and none too many of them!) allowed in. They are foreign, their civilization is foreign, and seemingly, none too successful. And yet you sing their praises as if THEY had invented cars and planes and computers and antibiotics and on and on... They may indeed HAVE BEEN the original Causcasians, but what have they done for us lately! :lol:
** rban: Why do you describe my proHindu sentiments as 'fanatical', BTW? **
Because (even teasingly) you admit them no flaws, no faults, and you suggest that 'everything would be all-right' if we only let them take over. Except everything is NOT all right where they come from, and I for one (of many on our forum) do NOT want to give over control to foreigners who have NOT made a success out of their resources such as we have of ours...
IF they are such godlike beings ;) why is their part of the world such a total hellhole?! Unlike ours, where parts of it certainly ARE a total hellhole because of who we've allowed in (that is, not because of OUR folks, but because of outsiders), but much of it is still massively more civiilized than their parts?
2003-02-04 22:30 | User Profile
rban: These are valid questions, but have you seen or read any of my posts about the number & nature of immigrants that re in India? I have tried to explain : the Muslims in India, 100 million+, have destroyed the place. Without them, Hindus would make the place Paradise....look what they have accomplished even in spite of them!
I want you to know I do not blame you or anyone on this forum for their attitudes towards India. India has one of the most advanced space programmes on Earth, a phenomenol nuclear power industry, even a fairly advanced automotive sector.
But you never hear about any of that...you hear about ...well, the stuff you mentionned. So it is not your fault at all. It is the fault of the media, both Western and Indian, for failing to showcase all that is great about the country, and harping on the negatives (which is all the dirty Islamic people's fault, anyway).
Why do Hindus do well in the US and not in India? Well, Avalanche, for one thing they don't have to deal with a hundred million Muslim alQaeda-loving scumbags here, do they? That makes a huge difference. Those people would demoralize and drag down the best of us.
2003-02-04 23:08 | User Profile
I have an acquaintance of extremely modest blue collar beginnings who managed to pursue and complete a PhD in Electrical Engineering while working and supporting a wife and two kids and procuring a now mortgage free home for them in suburbia. This fellow has been a software developer for over 20 years and is not only quite proficient in software development but is also expert in the black arts of Fixed Income mathematics and trading systems. In spite of this, about a year ago this fellow lost his $130,000 a year job as part of a general PhD purge. Their jobs were outsourced to some body shop on the Indian subcontinent. You know the land that invented, er, a, harumph, that is - the number zero! After failing to secure so much as a single interview in the software field, he finally was forced to accept a TEMPORARY 6 month assignment teaching High School mathematics, for a salary of $20,000 (for the six months). Even though he's confident that he will work as a software developer again, the likelihood of this happening is about on a par with the mud subcontinent making an original contribution to science or technology. Anyway, just the other day I received a nauseous mass email from this very same fellow trumpeting the fictitious contributions of the dot heads to world culture. The tenor of this message was just shy of idolatrous. It would appear that Gunga Ban is making at least some headway in his 'Bow down and worship your Dravidian overlords, goyishe curs' campaign.
BTW I've worked as a software developer for over 12 years and in that time, especially over the last few years, I've had the opportunity to work closely with several score of these swarthy 'Aryans'. Their skill levels run the gamut from mediocre to extremely incompetent. The only developer from the subcontinent I've ever met who was worth spit, and this guy was very, very good, was a Pakistani gentleman with a charming Oxford accent who could easily have passed for a Spaniard or Greek.
2003-02-05 00:58 | User Profile
Originally posted by Marcus Porcius Cato@Feb 4 2003, 23:08 ** BTW I've worked as a software developer for over 12 years and in that time, especially over the last few years, I've had the opportunity to work closely with several score of these swarthy 'Aryans'. Their skill levels run the gamut from mediocre to extremely incompetent. The only developer from the subcontinent I've ever met who was worth spit, and this guy was very, very good, was a Pakistani gentleman with a charming Oxford accent who could easily have passed for a Spaniard or Greek. **
Marcus, I encountered much the same before getting the chance to jump into the SFX (CGI) field a few years back. The quest for cheap labor runs the gamut, from sweeping floors to encryption algorithms for security equipment. This country - no, not the country - the bloodsuckers and their co-conspirators holding the reins at the moment are shooting themselves in their collective foot, but their arrogance won't allow them to see it until it is too late. Sure, I met some decent Indians, etc., but most turned out to have exaggerated credentials, or needed training to be brought up to speed for grunt work. Still cheaper than native born programmers and software engineers in the eyes of management, though.
Rban has a real hatred of Iranians/Persians. I'm surprised he would even call them white/Aryan considering the spittle that has flown when discussing their Muslim faith. I still stand by my own experiences. For the most part, my dealings with Persians have been fine. They might not belong here, nor do the Indians, but they weren't trying to rip me off at the counter a la 7-11, nor stealing a white American's job in the tech sector by working for ridiculously low wages.
I'm not sure if rban is serious, having some fun, an ADL plant/pain in the ass, or some nut (too many whites in this catagory) that has chosen to identify with another race/ethnic group due to some type of undiagnosed or misunderstood self hatred. The latter is all too common after the last 60 years of bolshevist media claptrap brainwashing.
Then again, maybe he did lose a relative to the Outback Steakhouse. Makes me crave a bloomin' onion and a cold one right now.
2003-02-05 01:33 | User Profile
Mr Batty,
You mentioned the magic phrase - exaggerated credentials. Once last year, when attempting oh so gingerly to bring up the subject of the hordes of semicompetent dravidian hacks infesting software America, my kneejerk liberal colleague warded me off with the standard antidote to such heretical musings - the dreaded incantation 'xenophobic'. However, at a later convocation of equally liberal lemming developers, repeated references to 'exaggerated credentials' were found in the company of 'Indian Programmers'. The cavernous divide between their touted talents and their demonstrated abilities has become so notorious that even the dread lock/goatee/birkenstock developers are starting to comment quite indiscreetly upon it.
2003-02-05 01:59 | User Profile
Originally posted by wintermute@Feb 4 2003, 23:43 A terrifying thought occurs at this point. Suppose rBan isn't a troll . . . what if he really believes it? **
The central fact is that this hyperbolic Hindu 'support' of rbans came out of absolutely nowhere one fine day. Mad as a march hare? Possibly. Hindu supporter? Not a chance.
2003-02-05 11:22 | User Profile
Wintermute,
Yes, he was. Furthermore, he has always posted the sort of comments one finds here as well as there. He has been consistant in this for the last 22 months that I have been reading him.
What is Rban? Who in the hell knows, and that may very well include him.
2003-02-05 21:18 | User Profile
QUOTE The central fact is that this hyperbolic Hindu 'support' of rbans came out of absolutely nowhere one fine day. Mad as a march hare?
Wasn't rban on SamFrancis? Does anyone remember what he was like over there? Maybe some forensic psychology is called for. **
rbanowitz did post on Sam Francis. When I wrote of learning from Gandhi about Hindu mysticism, rban largely absented himself. Then and now I am intrigued by the attraction human stools hold for the Hindu. I magnanimously offered to send him a freeze-dried packet of my excrement so that he could analyze them (and me I suppose).
By this post I ask that rban write his address in the forum so all members may follow me and have our health and our future diagnosed by rban. This should greatly enhance the esteem for Hindus by members of this forum.
2003-02-06 01:58 | User Profile
Originally posted by Marcus Porcius Cato@Feb 5 2003, 01:33 ** Mr Batty,
You mentioned the magic phrase - exaggerated credentials. Once last year, when attempting oh so gingerly to bring up the subject of the hordes of semicompetent dravidian hacks infesting software America, my kneejerk liberal colleague warded me off with the standard antidote to such heretical musings - the dreaded incantation 'xenophobic'. However, at a later convocation of equally liberal lemming developers, repeated references to 'exaggerated credentials' were found in the company of 'Indian Programmers'. The cavernous divide between their touted talents and their demonstrated abilities has become so notorious that even the dread lock/goatee/birkenstock developers are starting to comment quite indiscreetly upon it. **
Marcus, as bad as it is in the software industry (IT in general) amongst many Indians, it is apparently worse in the medical field, with Indians leading the way in some very unflattering catagories. So many Americans have been brainwashed into not only believing the tall tales spun by non-whites/foreigners in general, that I'm amazed we're not in a worse position than we are. This is inflamed by there being so many (white) lummoxes that fall over anyone with an accent who still speaks English quite well, like many Indians. Hell, so many people fall for Brits, thinking they're smart because of their accents, it's hilarious. If rban is a Brit, I'll bet he knows exactly what I'm talking about. I've met Brits in Hollywood that have done well simply because of their accents, and they find it amusing. The Indians are probably enjoying a laugh amongst themselves over quite a similar situation.
We could try and figure out rban's mental state right down to the last twitch of the id, but we are merely dealing with postings. That makes everything conjecture. But it doesn't make the conjecture wrong. Just a little more scattered than actually seeing someone in action.
I think I may have a copy of the thread rban mentions in which he and I were tossing our credentials about while claiming the other was a fraud. It was probably quite boring to many SF members in the end, as the thread became ridiculously personal at points. The true lowlights were when the troll named "leo" chimed in. The old SF members remember that bastard I'm sure. I used to call rban "rbanovitz" and "rbanstein", and leo, "leostein" like other SF members. The good old days.
Anyway, I've broken my old promise to not lay into rban's constant Hindu rants quite so often. My real problem is with Indians taking work from whites, not so much with the Indians themselves. They are pawns, whether they know it or not, or whether they want to admit it or not. More pawns against American whites. They should be fixing India, of which I am sure they are capable. Not helping run the U.S. into the ground. That is what the daisy chain immigration from the third world is doing.
2003-03-19 09:32 | User Profile
"Who's that tripping over my hindus?" roared rban from beneath the bridge.
"Oh, it is only I, the tiniest Billy Goat Gruff , and I'm going up to the hillside to make myself fat," said the billy goat, with such a small voice.