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Thread ID: 4781 | Posts: 11 | Started: 2003-02-04
2003-02-04 07:09 | User Profile
Question...
Was the Israeli experiment on Columbia part of ongoing Israeli development programs for weapons of mass destruction in chemical or biological warfare?
Check this out:
"NASA EXPERIENCE: In 1997, Colonel Ramon was selected as a Payload Specialist. He is designated to train as prime for a Space Shuttle mission with a payload that includes a multispectral camera for recording desert aerosol. In July 1998, he reported for training at the Johnson Space Center, Houston. He is currently assigned to STS-107 scheduled to launch in 2003."
[url=http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/PS/ramon.html]http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/PS/ramon.html[/url]
Desert aerosols = suspended solids or liquids in gas over desert.
A multispectral camera for was used to record the existence of solids or liquids in the atmosphere over deserts.
Questions: Deserts, where? What type of solids or liquids?
A reasonable suspicion is Col. Ramon photographed and measured the dispersion of inert substances over the Middle East as part of a weapons development program for the Israeli Defense Force.
2003-02-04 13:29 | User Profile
I would like to see the shuttle flights phased out and real space exploration started.
There is something distinctly Rube Goldberg looking about the configuration that we blasted into space on January 16. It looks like something that a bunch of real smart hillbilly car mechanics working in a junkyard would come up with with if you gave them 1000 bucks, a 4 week deadline and unlimited Budweiser.
Let's face it, if you have a big enough rocket you can get practically anything airborn so I'm surprised they didn't just cut costs by welding some wings on a Winnebago like they did in Spaceballs.
And as for the so called scientific experiments, the titles have the ring of the entries in a in high school science contest. You know, the ones which no student in the history of the world has ever entered except to make their college application look more impressive.
And viewing the film that they keep showing of the 7 doomed people dressed in their space suits and smiling for the cameras as they leave for the shuttle is troubling to me in that it is obvious that affirmative action and diversity played a part in their selection. Do all of these people really have what Tom Wolf described as "the right stuff"? Certainly Husband and McCool did. But some of them are obviously nothing but tourists with scientific mini pretentions who should be teaching in a middle school somewhere.
Our biggest problem in terms of mission is that Mercury and Venus are too hot and thus not suitable for exploration. We've been to the moon and for some reason don't want to go back. And Mars is too far away and cold.
NASA deserves credit because they have kept the ball in the air as far as simply remaining a space agency in being. They've kept training astronauts, refining rockets and serving as a place where the bright people who are interested in space can actually find employment instead of all dispersing into the world of IT.
But they need to focus on either a real space station, unmanned missions to Mars and IMHO an alternative way to get into space without using these massive and dangerous rockets that start from ground level and blast straight up. The law of inertia being somewhat intractable it seems to me it would be more efficient to drop a payload from a plane at say 60K feet, then allow it to fire a rocket for escape.
2003-02-04 17:19 | User Profile
I see nothing sinister in the Israeli experiment- just more of the make-work these 'space stations' do to justify a continued manned program.
Incidentally, the space station idea came about before the revolution in computing/microelectronics- it was assumed that sattelites would need human supervision.
We've learned all we need to know about zero-grav on our bodies - it's bad, and we'll need to produce gravity for missions of 2 weeks or more.
There is a guy sending up mice in a rotating habitat- I'll look for the link! :D
2003-02-07 00:52 | User Profile
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[SIZE=2]Israel's shuttle astronaut Col. Ilon Ramon was on a secret mission on Columbia[/SIZE]
4Feb03 by Gordon Thomas GLOBE-INTEL
Astronaut Ilon Ramon was conducting secret experiments on the Columbia to discover new ways to beat Saddamââ¬â¢s threat to use biological and chemical weapons against Israel.
For most of his 16 days on board the Columbia, he had been using cameras linked directly to the Israeli Space Agency to study desert dust and wind-drifts emanating from the deserts of Iraq.
The information was fed to the Institute for Biological Research ââ¬â the ultra-secret establishment that is at the cutting edge of Israelââ¬â¢s multi-layered defence system. The Instituteââ¬â¢s scientists constantly study how contaminants can drift into Israel from Iraq.
"Ramonââ¬â¢s work was regarded as a priority among his fellow astronauts ââ¬â because of the fear that Saddam will launch a pre-emptive strike against Israel," said an intelligence source in Tel Aviv.
Ramon, 48, was already a hero in Israel because of his role in flying one of the eight F-16 fighters which destroyed Saddamââ¬â¢s nuclear reactor in 1981 ââ¬â the same year Columbia made its first flight.
At the time the plant was ready to go online to produce weapons grade plutonium. Ramonââ¬â¢s task was to send out a signal to fool Iraqi radar that the fighter formation was a commercial Jumbo jet.
After the raid, he said: "It was no big deal."
It was that can-do philosophy which made him not only a born leader, but popular with all his fellow fliers. He had flown his first mission at 18 in the Yom Kippur War against the Egyptians. Later he had commanded Israelââ¬â¢s nuclear bomb squadron.
For the past five years, he had been at the NASA training school in Texas preparing for last Saturdayââ¬â¢s mission. He went to his death carrying a small pencil drawing titled, Moon Landscape. It had originally been drawn by a 14 year old Jewish boy, Peter Ginz, who had died at Auschwitz.
"For Ramon the flight was a chance to honour in the heavens all the victims of the Holocaust," Ilonââ¬â¢s father, Eliezer, said yesterday.
For the scientists at the Biological Research Institute, to the very end his work proved invaluable.
Within its laboratories and workshops are manufactured a wide range of chemical and biological weapons. The Instituteââ¬â¢s chemists ââ¬â some of whom once worked for the Soviet KGB or East German Stasi intelligence service ââ¬â create the Instituteââ¬â¢s current research programs.
Founded in 1952 in a small concrete bunker, today the Institute sprawls over ten acres. The fruit trees have long gone, replaced by a high concrete wall topped with sensors. Armed guards patrol the perimeter. Long ago, the Institute disappeared from public scrutiny. Its exact address in the suburbs of Nes Ziona has been removed from the Tel Aviv telephone book. Its location is erased from all maps of the area. No aircraft is allowed to over-fly the area.
Only Dimona in the Negev Desert is surrounded by more secrecy. In the classified directory of the Israeli Defence Force, the Institute is only listed as ëproviding services to the defence Ministryû. Like Dimona, many of the Instituteââ¬â¢s research and development laboratories are concealed deep underground. Housed there are the biochemists and genetic scientists with their bottled agents of death: toxins that can create crippling food poisoning and lead to death; the even more virulent Venezuelan equine encephalomyelitis and anthrax.
In other laboratories, reached through air locks, scientists work with a variety of nerve agents: choking agents, blood agents, blister agents. These include Tabun, virtually odourless and invisible when dispensed in aerosol or vapour form. Soman, the last of the Nazi nerve gases to be discovered, is also invisible in vapour form but has a slightly fruity odour. The range of blister agents include chlorine, phosgene, and diphosgene which smells of new-mown grass. The blood agents include those with a cyanide base. The blister agents are based upon those first used in World War I.
Outwardly featureless, with few windows in its dun-coloured concrete walls, the Instituteââ¬â¢s interior has state-of-the-art security. Code words and visual identification control access to each area. Guards patrol the corridors. Bomb-proof sliding doors can only be opened by swipe cards whose codes are changed every day.
All employees undergo health checks every month. All have been subject to intense screening. Their families have also undergone similar checks.
Within the Institute is a special department that creates lethal toxic weapons for the use of Mossad to carry out its state-approved mandate to kill without trial the enemies of Israel. Over the years, at least six workers at the plant have died, but the cause of their deaths is protected by Israelââ¬â¢s strict military censorship.
The first crack in that security curtain has come from a former Mossad officer, Victor Ostrovsky. He claims ëwe all knew that a prisoner brought to the Institute would never get out alive. PLO infiltrators were used as guinea pigs. They could make sure the weapons the scientists were developing worked properly and make them even more efficientû.
Israel has so far issued no denial of these allegations.
2003-02-07 06:07 | User Profile
**He went to his death carrying a small pencil drawing titled, Moon Landscape. It had originally been drawn by a 14 year old Jewish boy, Peter Ginz, who had died at Auschwitz.
"For Ramon the flight was a chance to honour in the heavens all the victims of the Holocaust," Ilonââ¬â¢s father, Eliezer, said yesterday. **
Fitting, he carried the drawing to spread MORE jewish DNA "in the heavens"... <_< Honoring the lies and made-up numbers and furthering the holyhoax ... well, fer shure, his dying gives them EVEN MORE ammunition for lies and propaganda and 'holy movies' -- betcha they gonna make one of his "daring bombing mission" to kill a frenchie scientist and a couple of unimportant Iraqis there in the Iraqi desert!!!! Complete with "flashbacks" to jews dying in "death camps" and a little drawing being carefully saved for the future... :blink:
2003-02-11 16:33 | User Profile
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[SIZE=2]The Space Shuttle's Secret Military Mission[/SIZE] Astronaut Ilan Ramon Spied on Iraq with a Multispectral Camera. Were spectral emissions from the shuttle powered by americium-242? by Yoichi Clark Shimatsu
Night vision actively makes visible things hidden in darkness. It is a subliminal technology that projects an infrared beam onto obscure objects, which appear through digital lenses as phosphorescent ghost-like images. Conventional optical devices, in contrast, are passive, receiving light from external sources such as stars and street lamps or the sunlight reflected off surfaces. Telescopes, even powerful ones, become grainy in low-light, low-contrast situations.
This is why farmers and sawmills around the world burn their fields and scrap wood on damp days. Optical air-pollution monitors in nearby towns cannot detect the smoke plumes through the mist. Likewise, anyone trying to dispose of waste gases ââ¬â from chemical-weapons laboratories, for instance ââ¬â uses the same technique of releasing emissions under cloud cover or at nighttime to evade detection by spy satellites.
The only way to spot such "smoking-gun evidence," as in the case of Iraq's alleged chemical weapons program, is to mount a beam-generating technology, basically a souped-up version of night vision, on to a platform circling over the suspect territory.
Thus, for 16 days in orbit, Israeli astronaut Ilan Ramon made earth observations with a cluster of instruments, which NASA called "a multi-spectral telescope." Designed to survey the air quality over the deserts of the Middle East, his "telescope" was built by a research team at Tel Aviv University and a U.S. company, Orbital Sciences Corp. His research project was called MEIDEX (Mediterranean-Israel dust experiment).[1]
According to Israel Line magazine, MEIDEX "called for Ramon to observe and take pictures of atmospheric aerosols in the Mediterranean area using ultraviolet, visible and near-infrared array-detector cameras." The acronym seems disingenuous because the letters ME are usually employed by Israeli research projects to stand for "Middle East."
The computer-controlled cameras were pointed earthward to detect desert dust and "pollution aerosols . . . to provide scientific information about atmospheric aerosols and the influence of global changes on the climate." The data was directly transmitted to Tel Aviv University and, according to investigative journalist Gordon Thomas, on to the Israeli Biological Institute, the hub of Israel's nerve-gas and bioweapons programs.[2]
With computer enhancement, the collected images reveal the chemical composition of the stew of gases and droplets swirling over the desert. The ultraviolet and visible rays, originating from the sun, showed the normal background of the atmosphere ââ¬â mineral particles, methane, car exhaust fumes and oil well burn-off ââ¬â during daylight hours when Saddam Hussein's laboratories don't dare release their toxic wastes (assuming if indeed these are being produced or destroyed). The important data, however, must be gathered during chemical releases at night or under clouds, and this is where infrared cameras come into play.
Infrared cameras pick up the heat waves generated by artificial sources such as power plants and oil refineries. What if, however, Saddam's chemists were to take the precaution of cooling toxic emissions before dispersing them into the air? To detect cooler gases, an effective night-shot camera needs to generate its own infrared beam. It would have to be an extraordinarily powerful beam to penetrate the clouds far below.
Night vision, as any special-forces soldier or video enthusiast learns, is limited by the infrared beam's range. More power means more range. A space shuttle, however, simply cannot generate the staggering amount of extra power that the MEIDEX telescope requires on the sun-blocked side of Earth. To eliminate the risk of a power shutdown to the other experiments and the spaceship itself, a multi-spectral telescope requires an independent source of power, and the obvious solution is nuclear power.
During the search for Columbia debris, one of the sheriffs in Texas told reporters about the danger posed by radioactive equipment from the shuttle. NASA repeatedly warned of hazardous substances without disclosing any specifics. Most media commentators assumed that the space agency issued the bogus warnings to discourage souvenir collectors. Maybe the sheriff wasn't lying.[3]
Americium-242
The Russians have been known to install nuclear reactors aboard their mammoth satellites. The shuttle, however, is a lighter craft with a human crew ââ¬â not the place for a lead-lined thermonuclear chamber. It turns out, however, that Ben-Gurion University's nuclear physics department has produced an exotic type of fissionable fuel called americium-242.[4] According to a university news release, americium-242 "requires only 1 percent of the mass of uranium or plutonium to reach its critical state. It was found that this fuel could sustain fission in the form of extremely thin films of these elements, less than a thousandth of a millimeter thick. In this form, the exceedingly high-energy, high-temperature fission products can escape the fuel elements and be used for propulsion in space - either by heating a gas for propulsion, or by fueling a special generator that produces electricity."[5]
Searching for these radioactive wafers across the state of Texas goes one better than the proverbial needle in the haystack.
NASA is reportedly considering nuclear-fueled spacecraft for future missions, since an americium-242 engine is expected to 10 times faster than current rocket technology.[6] A more immediate application of this exotic nuclear fuel is to provide the kick for space-based weapons, including laser cannons and electromagnetic pulse weapons. (Not by coincidence perhaps, Ilan Ramon and Commander William McCool were both specialists in electromagnetic warfare.)[7]
Space weaponry mounted on orbiting platforms, however, is illegal under several United Nations treaties; international law is the major obstacle to their deployment. Therefore, the anti-missile missiles developed by the U.S. and Israeli militaries serve as a convenient ploy to sell the National Missile Defense program to a technology-illiterate public. The Arrow and Patriot series are hopelessly clumsy ground-based technologies.
How then can the Bush and Sharon administrations win public support for space-based weapons? A cynical solution is to make martyrs of an Israeli-American space shuttle crew. Show them to be victims of outmoded technology and, more important, obsolete thinking in NASA and in Congress about keeping space free of nuclear power and potential war-making technologies. Is it conceivable that an American president would deliberately sabotage the Columbia? If his agenda is to affect a shift of NASA from a hybrid civilian-military space agency to an arm of the Pentagon's ballistic missile defense program, then no sacrifice could be too great ââ¬â especially if Ilan Ramon's telescope had failed to detect any smoking guns over Iraq. As for the Israeli leader, it must be recalled that the Likud movement is built on the cult of martyrdom ââ¬â from ancient Masada and the Warsaw ghetto to the Irgun fighters killed in fratricidal violence by Haganah militiamen at the birth of Israel, from Yonathan Netanyahu's demise in Entebbe to ââ¬â now ââ¬â the death of Colonel Ilan Ramon, nonchalant bomber of Iraq's nuclear plant repackaged as a hero of science.
An Experiment Gone Awry?
Undoubtedly, the official investigation will determine the Columbia disaster was not an accident by design. Blue-ribbon committees will piously give their independent endorsements, even if martyrs were made to order. Instead of jumping to conspiracy theories, even a harsh critic of NMD must admit that the Columbia disaster could have been an accident ââ¬â though not one caused by loose tiles but by an experiment gone awry.
Ilan Ramon's telescope was "multi-spectral." This is an interesting word because it could refer to either the electromagnetic spectrum or ghostly apparitions. Taking a cue from Derrida's "Specters," the mission may have been haunted, though not in the way those of apocalyptic mindset have linked the Columbia's destruction to the over-flight town of Palestine, Texas.
Naomi Elliman, in her article "Israel in Space" posted on the Israeli Ministry of Finance website, disclosed "Ramon also investigated sprites."[8] Sprites and Ramon! His was a fascination resembling Nabokov's obsession with butterflies. Sprites, like butterflies, fly but they are traditionally classified as UFOs or as avenging angels. These spectral lights composed of ionized plasma (gas atoms stripped of electrons) are, Elliman explains, "rare forms of lightning that occur above thunderstorms at heights of up to 90 kilometers," or 55 miles above sea level.
As Columbia swung down to 36 miles altitude, an amateur astronomer in California snapped five shots of the descending shuttle with his Nikon. The photographs, according to the San Francisco Chronicle, showed a mysterious orange aura tinged with purple hovering over the ship's left wing.[9] Was this phantom-flame merely a trick of light or was it the luminous sprite that pilot Ilan Ramon had been chasing for years?
If Ramon had switched on his multi-spectral cameras ââ¬â probably with childlike delight ââ¬â as Columbia traversed the Pacific, he did not foresee the fatal consequences. The negative charge of the high-energy electron pulse from the americium-242 would attract the positive charge of the gas plasma generated by sprites (lighting is positive in the upper elevations). The strange attraction ââ¬â half natural, half artificial ââ¬â would have been as powerful as a Star Trek traction beam reeling in a Klingon interceptor.
A lightning burst would account for the sudden surge in temperature, the immediate shutdown of heat sensors and communications systems (why the ghostly "last words" were never transmitted to NASA monitors), and for the tumbling that sent Columbia, a flaming chariot of the heavens, to her doom.
Notes
from The Laissez Faire Electronic Times, Vol 2, No 7, February 17, 2003 Editor: Emile Zola Publisher: Digital Monetary Trust
2003-02-12 00:01 | User Profile
So Ramon was powering his space laser with a new small-sized nuclear fission system employing americium, it supposedly blew up the shuttle, but it was actually sabotaged to show the dangers of 'old' technology and to encourage the use of this new system. Conspiratorial logic at its best. :rolleyes:
2003-02-24 18:47 | User Profile
The ADL doesnââ¬â¢t like my reasonable suspicion regarding Col. Ramonââ¬â¢s shuttle activities:
"Only a few days after the disaster, the experiments Ramon had conducted were focused upon by conspiracists. One posted asked, "Was the Israeli experiment on Columbia part of ongoing Israeli development programs for weapons of mass destruction in chemical or biological warfare?" In 1997, Colonel Ramon was selected as a Payload Specialist. The mission included a multispectral camera for recording desert aerosol. The poster stated, "A reasonable suspicion is Col. Ramon photographed and measured the dispersion of inert substances over the Middle East as part of a weapons development program for the Israeli Defense Force." - from a right-wing conspiracy e-mail list, February 4"
[url=http://www.adl.org/Anti_semitism/columbia.asp]http://www.adl.org/Anti_semitism/columbia.asp[/url] [url=http://www.iht.com/articles/87387.html]http://www.iht.com/articles/87387.html[/url] [url=http://www.usnewswire.com/topnews/q...3/0218-110.html]http://www.usnewswire.com/topnews/q...3/0218-110.html[/url] [url=http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto...0&u=/030218/180]http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto...0&u=/030218/180[/url]
The ADL packaged this question with some truly irrational crap to undermine its reasonableness. But the fact that it is included in every one of these articles demonstrates its importance.
Folks, the Jews fear this question more than anything else that pertains to Columbiaââ¬â¢s mission.
You know what to do: Refer to the first post on this thread and ask this question everywhere, but please refrain from speculation concerning the cause of Columbia's demise.
And hello to you, too, "Smirking Jewess." :)
2003-02-24 20:59 | User Profile
A little-known goal of the IDF, as sought through Col. Ramon, is spectrographic photography of the twin gases "zionon" and "antisemigon." The former gas can be spotted from high into the atmosphere, typically emanating from such sources as the U.S. Capitol, White House, and 700 Club studios. New York City is covered with a thick layer of this gas. The latter gas, meanwhile, is more prevalent than surface photography will show, emanating from the odd university professor, website editor and many normal White Americans, but is often covered by the less-dense zionon, which tends to rise above and obscure it. When the zionon is located, Israeli officials know where to send their lobbyists. Upon location of antisemigon, the ADL is notified so that it can dispatch "hate monitors."
2003-02-24 23:31 | User Profile
Okay, so the vapor density of air at the U.S. Capitol, White House and 700 Club studios should be set between the densities of zionon and antisemigon. This will cause the zionon to rise quickly in the atmosphere and the anti-semigon to settle downward. Adding turbulence and heat will tear apart the zionon clouds, thus mixing and diluting the zionon with the surrounding gases. Yep, I buy your note. Do you buy my response? B)
2003-02-25 22:12 | User Profile
Fire up the cropduster!