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Thread ID: 4723 | Posts: 19 | Started: 2003-01-31
2003-01-31 18:42 | User Profile
There must be a lesson here somewhere...
All the Marbles
by J. R. Colson
January 30, 2003
I met a nice woman the other day. She was kind, decent, polite, thoughtful. Just the type of person that many people are not. Big deal, you ask? This woman was an Indian. You know, a Native American.
I could not help but think about what would happen to this woman if the White Revolution occurred tomorrow. If Whites began a] killing; b] jailing; c] deporting minorities, this woman would end up getting washed away by the White tide.
If that woman was in danger of meeting any of the above fates, what would I do? If she came to me on her hands and knees and begged me, "please, spare me! Please don't let them take me away!," what would my response be? My reply to her would be: "sorry, I understand your fear, but ours is a race-based movement. We cannot possibly save even a few of the nicest minorities. Minorities have more children than Whites, and if we saved any of them, soon we Whites would be swamped with Blacks and Browns all over again. Sorry, lady, I sympathize. Really. But there is nothing I can do. I must put my people and my culture first."
Whites who want to remain committed to the WN movement had better adopt a similar mindset. Ours is indeed an "all the marbles" game. All or nothing. You choose.
J. R. Colson
2003-01-31 19:07 | User Profile
Grotesque. First, this is a Red Indian. They preceded us here. Secondly, it ain't like the streets (or the jails, or the courts) are choked with Cherokees. Thirdly, I myself know dozens of whites who have at least some Indian blood in them, who descend from the early settlers. Who has more 'right' to live here- them, or someone descended from 19th Century Irish or German immigrants?
Must be a slow week at VNN, but Colson ain't the nadir. Get a load of this:
[url=http://vanguardnewsnetwork.com/jan03/index665.htm]http://vanguardnewsnetwork.com/jan03/index665.htm[/url]
It's like Chapter 1 of a gay-porn novel [thankfully, it ends before all the protagonists remove their trousers and break out the hot oil....]
2003-01-31 19:36 | User Profile
Some of that cornball dialogue sounds like it came out of a boy's adventure novel I read in 1955 called "The Mercer Boys Cruise on the Lassie".
Stuff like "Jones, Kevin and I have a dispute that I'd like you to help settle"
and
"Of course Whites have a right to live you old lobster," quipped Kevin. "
All I got to say about these guys is if they ever get through boot camp there is gonna be a lot of what a certain sub culture within homodom refers to as "buddy time" in the barracks.
2003-01-31 19:42 | User Profile
Speaking of gays in the military.
William Manchester in his WWII memoir "Goodbye Darkness" tells of the marine officer who was a hero at Guadalcanal's Bloody Ridge being caught whilst sodomizing a young ensign.
He was given the choice - in consideration of his valor at Guadal - of 30 years confinement at Portsmouth or signing up to fight for Chang in China.
Talk about a Hobson's choice.
2003-01-31 19:50 | User Profile
Il Ragno --
Oh, I am wounded. Like you would not try to banish non-Whites in da Wevoloootion. Dat be a lie, homedawg. You be among pals here. Don' hold back.
2003-01-31 22:32 | User Profile
Franc- If WW2 taught us anything, it's to fight on one front at a time. First the Shinyspecials™ ; everything after is genocidal lagniappe.
As for the Adventures of the Hardly Boys, there appears to be another installment up!
2003-02-01 01:10 | User Profile
Well, Wintersilence, guess you ain't wit' us 100%-ers, are ya? Get wit' us or nay. You choose. Pick da crud out o' yer teef or stop blockin' de mirror, lil' fren'...
J. R. Colson [Franco]
2003-02-01 01:14 | User Profile
The question of tactics, all the marbles vs. three quarters, etc. seems to be on quite a few minds these days. Perhaps an OD roundtable discussion is needed. I need to think on how best to structure it, but anyone interested in that sort of thing should contact me.
2003-02-01 01:25 | User Profile
Sure, Tex. I mean, the very goddamn idea that we can fight a war "half-assed."
All or nuttin', people. We lost Vietnam 'cause we did not do it 100%, only about 30%. Tain't good enuf! In or out!
2003-02-01 03:10 | User Profile
If paleo-conservatism is to represented by vnn and not vdare...then count me out. And I am proud to take that position, the moreso if the opening post is a reflection of the vnn ideology. It was quite odious.
2003-02-01 03:14 | User Profile
Oh, that is rich -- VDARE, the people who do not ever mention our #1 foe, The Jew? Those people are gonna save us?
Ha, you been smokin' somethin', haven't ya??
2003-02-01 04:31 | User Profile
Francolson: I mean, the very goddamn idea that we can fight a war "half-assed." All or nuttin', people. We lost Vietnam 'cause we did not do it 100%, only about 30%. I'll be interested in a discussion of this... My first reaction is: the red folks have reservations that we gave them after we defeated them. I'm not sure I'm against sending them BACK to their reservations (they can live in their casinos... ;) ) Seems like the vast majority of them are half or more "white" and if we whites are going to take over the 'marble court' then don't WE set the rules? I'm all for shipping the blacks, and such whites as wish to go with them, off to africa... once AIDS finishes its work, there will be lots of empty land for them to... colonize. (And we can bring the afrikaaners et al. here to white land...)
The mexicans can go HOME and we'll keep them out (guns, walls, whatever...) Same for the arabs and jews and asians. 'Let' them all go home. The reds, however, ARE home. Where would you send them? (Canada?)
But that's just an unconsidered response off the top of my head... I want to know what others think.
I don't think I can agree with Francolson about turning anyone over to a mob -- I keep HOPING for a better, "civilized," intentional, deliberate, thought-out return of the country to its white roots. How does turning a woman over to a mob mean anything other than lawless anarchy, and what's the point of our "civilization" if all we end up in is the same kind of random destruction that Hutus and Tutsi practice?!
I'm also re-reading the first Drakka book (by S.M. Stirling, Marching through Georgia), and it's the "Domination's" dispassionate control of lesser / conquered races: as violent as needed, but not MORE violent than needed; not casually and carelessly violent, but intentionally, appropriately, and MERCILESSLY violent. (IF you take away ALL hope, you've created a fighter who has no more care for his own life and will be especially dangerous to you. If you leave him just enough hope, you've created a worthwhile slave/vassal.
It's the dispassion that appeals to me. So much of our... anger... leads to inappropriate actions (sigh, if it EVER leads to any actions...), and a better warrior, would, I think, not need that anger to steel his loins... It is the calm, deliberate appropriate violence of the warrior that appeals to me, not the angry, careless violence of the out-of-control serf rising up.
2003-02-01 05:56 | User Profile
Avalanche --
Well, it may sound cruel, but, there is really no other way. If left to their own devices, Blacks/Browns will regroup and re-create more of themselves. It is either: a) deport; b] jail; or, other. Not much choice. And how are you gonna round up and deport 30 or 40 million people? See?
And, they, being more cruel than Whites as a rule, would do the same thing to us, but worse. Think about it.
This is really an all-or-nothing game.
2003-02-01 06:42 | User Profile
Clarification to above post:
Rounding up and deporting 30 or 40 million non-White people, on a "national" scale, would be very difficult, if not impossible.
Far better would be to jail them "locally."
There are no easy answers, but again, ours is a life-or-death fight. You wanna play nice, play Scrabble.
2003-02-01 16:09 | User Profile
** Well, it may sound cruel, but, there is really no other way. If left to their own devices, Blacks/Browns will regroup and re-create more of themselves. It is either: a) deport; b] jail; or, other. Not much choice. And how are you gonna round up and deport 30 or 40 million people? See?** No, I donââ¬â¢t mind cruelty: ââ¬Åcrueltyââ¬Â is merely a label depending on the side one is on (letââ¬â¢s get... Beyond Good and Evil :D shall we?! Tee hee hee!) But Iââ¬â¢m not sure blacks/browns regrouping is the same as reds being controlled. I guess I just donââ¬â¢t see the big threat of reds, where I DO of blacks and browns.
I may have misinterpreted your essay as intending to turn the woman over to a mob... You donââ¬â¢t actually say that; she seems to be merely asking NOT to be deported. But turning her IN to a bureaucracy is a different (and appropriate) thing. Is your essay directed at ââ¬Åwhat to do about the reds?ââ¬Â or ââ¬Åshall we allow any exceptions to the necessary deportations?ââ¬Â These are two very different questions ââ¬â and lead to very different discussions!
** And, they, being more cruel than Whites as a rule, would do the same thing to us, but worse. Think about it. This is really an all-or-nothing game. I do, and hence "advocate" (in an academic sense, Iââ¬â¢m not actually ââ¬Ëdropping the flagââ¬â¢ on the race wars... ), as MUCH violence as is needful, but no more. They do say, and I think rightly, that women are more ruthless than men... once you wake them up! (pace, Dan Dare I AM addressing your question about awakening females.)
Where many of the men here and esp. at WN sites seem to be filled with anger and hate and are itching to get out there and repay the violence and ââ¬Ëinsultsââ¬â¢ of the lesser peoples ââ¬â I feel (and I canNOT speak for other awakened women) that there neednââ¬â¢t be ââ¬Ëpay backââ¬â¢ ââ¬â just a calm, deliberative implementation of a plan to cleanse our country.
Rounding up and deporting 30 or 40 million non-White people, on a "national" scale, would be very difficult, if not impossible. Far better would be to jail them "locally." Problematic. I think jailing them would be even more difficult (and dangerous in the longer run) ââ¬â youââ¬â¢d have to create 300,000+ jailors? (To say nothing of ââ¬Ëjail cells.ââ¬â¢) And who watches the watchers? The solution MUST be removal. Having them here is like rounding up the mice infesting the house, and corraling them in one room. They will continue to breed and be a reservoir of hanta virus and eventually will overrun the four walls youââ¬â¢re depending on to protect yourself. They must be killed or removed entirely from the house, else they will continue to sicken you and your family.
And these ââ¬Åmiceââ¬Â may not be particularly intelligent, but even chimpanzees can figure out how to work a lock!! (And some even suborn the jailors...)
** If that woman was in danger of meeting any of the above fates, what would I do? If she came to me on her hands and knees and begged me, "please, spare me! Please don't let them take me away!," what would my response be?** Am I being naive in thinking deportation can be accomplished with dispassionate force? (I suppose so, since many of the white ââ¬Ëtroopsââ¬â¢ will not be... entirely in control of themselves.) There are not enough ââ¬Ëaristocratsââ¬â¢ to manage the coming war, to manage and direct the white troops, and keep to a minimum the rampaging and destruction... (This is where the Drakka books so appeal.)
** There are no easy answers, but again, ours is a life-or-death fight. You wanna play nice, play Scrabble.** No, I want to play with aristocrats.... and hate to realize the ubiquity of ââ¬Ëcommon menââ¬â¢ who cannot help, but see it as a matter of good and evil, as a matter of demonizing the opponent and thus are unable to view the opponent as... objects... to be removed. Not people to be punished and raped and tortured and killed. Their... feelings... are of no importance, their preferences are uninteresting; they are objects, and thereââ¬â¢s no sense in being ANGRY at objects; one manages them to oneââ¬â¢s benefit. It is to our benefit to get rid of non-whites. This neednââ¬â¢t include ââ¬Åcrueltyââ¬Â but merely inexorability. They must go, and therefore they MUST go. As much violence and killing as is necessary to achieve that end, and no more.
(And, I think, MOST darker folks in this country will NOT need massive violence to be controlled. The inner cities may need to be... disinfected... but the middle class is not much less sheeplike than the white middle class. And if they try to rebel, you kill ONLY as many as are necessary to quell the rebellion and enforce the ââ¬Ënew rules.ââ¬â¢ This offers hope to the others that THEY PERSONALLY can live through this, and thus, they become tractable, or at least controllable.)
2003-02-01 18:02 | User Profile
Originally posted by il ragno@Jan 31 2003, 19:07 ** Grotesque. First, this is a Red Indian. They preceded us here. Secondly, it ain't like the streets (or the jails, or the courts) are choked with Cherokees. Thirdly, I myself know dozens of whites who have at least some Indian blood in them, who descend from the early settlers. Who has more 'right' to live here- them, or someone descended from 19th Century Irish or German immigrants?
Must be a slow week at VNN, but Colson ain't the nadir. Get a load of this:
[url=http://vanguardnewsnetwork.com/jan03/index665.htm]http://vanguardnewsnetwork.com/jan03/index665.htm[/url]
It's like Chapter 1 of a gay-porn novel [thankfully, it ends before all the protagonists remove their trousers and break out the hot oil....] **
Hey what about Kennewick man and all the other evidence turning up showing European/Whites were here first?
2003-02-01 18:16 | User Profile
Originally posted by Franco@Jan 31 2003, 19:10 ** Well, Wintersilence, guess you ain't wit' us 100%-ers, are ya? Get wit' us or nay. You choose. Pick da crud out o' yer teef or stop blockin' de mirror, lil' fren'...
J. R. Colson [Franco] **
I think this notion that VDARE somehow "refuses to name the Jew" is pretty far-fetched. Is it possible that VDARE (and me) does not consider them to be the only problem? Is that possible?
I like VDARE and I'm definitely closest to Brimelow in my views on society. Perhaps it's his assault on the bogus ("voodoo"?) economics of immigration that I relate to. He mentions Jared Taylor, has Sam Francis on his site - it's not like the guy has Sean Hannity and O'Reilly on.
The truth is, there are lots of whites concerned (angry) about what's going on in our country. And our homelands in Europe. That doesn't mean we secretly hold "jews" or whoever as the perpetrator but are scared to mention it. It's because we don't believe it. I blame all parties opposing me, not just one or two special "secret" evils.
-Jay
2003-02-01 19:41 | User Profile
Oh, jay, sorry, my bad! It was NOT the Jew Celler [backed by Jewish influence] who rammed thru the most horrible immigration bill in U.S. history, the 1965 Hart-Celler Act! It was not Celler who was pro-immigration pointman in Congress for decades. [Hart had sh*t to do with that Act, as shown by when President Johnson only praised Celler -- twice -- at the signing of the bill, not Hart].
Yes, it is never Jews who lead the charge on any of these issues that impact Whites. Right...it is ALWAYS a mix of gentiles/Jews/Asians/Mexicans/Irish/Italian....yep..
[slap, slap] Wake up...
2003-02-01 23:24 | User Profile
Well it was John F*ckhead Kennedy who promoted immigration in his "Nation of Immigrants" book so there is plenty of blame to go around. Irish politicians fighting their Celtic race war against the Anglo Saxons, goy businessmen selling out their race for money and of course Gentile hating Jews who are begining to reap what they have sown. Many hands have built the evil house we are now living in.