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Thread ID: 4699 | Posts: 6 | Started: 2003-01-30
2003-01-30 15:44 | User Profile
I think the reasons for war with Iraq are clear, and it has nothing to due with muslim terrorists. Assuming everything goes smoothly, Iraq's hundred billion barrel oil reserve with dramatically cut world oil prices. Not to mention that U.S. oil companies with be put in charge of Iraqi oil and profit greatly. The stock market will soar (driven by boosts in oil and armament stocks), and lower oil prices will provide at least a temporary boost in the U.S. economy.
Our trade deficit may fall slightly since we will be buying oil from ourselves.
Of course the U.S. will "discover" all kinds of untold horrors in Iraq, and Bush will be a hero for "liberating" the Iraqi people from debilitating sanctions.
By invading Iraq Bush hopes to
1) Create at least a temporary boost to the economy 2) Cut oil prices while helping his oil exec buddies make a fortune at the same time 3) Win the approval and campaign contributions of worldwide Jewry
2003-01-30 17:20 | User Profile
I always get a giggle whenever I encounter - even from a Justin Raimondo - "it's not about oil". As though it couldn't mutually be about both the oil and Israel. It's like hearing somebody say, "it's not the money, it's -" and then they shoehorn in the noblest sentiment they can find lying around handy.
It's the money. Always. And that's the best case scenario!
If America has been sold out by her leaders and public figures - and she has, for decades - it's been for money. I dunno; the day 'freedom' or 'principles' can pay your bills and buy you shiny stuff and house your mistress in discreet comfort and erect an electrified fence around you to keep the underclass safely out of your line of vision, then maybe our August Notables will sell us out for nobler motives. But today is not that day; and if coin o' the realm was good enough for Judas, it'll certainly suffice for the hollow men we're presently inundated with.
This is not to let the Chosen off the hook by any stretch; suborning treason is every bit as loathsome as being suborned. But I recall back when Bob Dole was running for President - the nonstop Hallmark-card reinvention of Dole into everybody's favorite uncle was fairly relentless (not that it cut any ice at the polls); yet, I was struck by one minor detail in this "selfless, lifelong public servant's" c.v.: the fact that he entered politics as a returning veteran of modest means - and was now running for President a few decades later as a multimillionaire. Not that this fact raised any eyebrows, then or now, but it instantly registered a wryly dispiriting truth with me: this 'servant of the people' business - hell, there's real money in it!
2003-01-30 17:35 | User Profile
Originally posted by heritagelost@Jan 30 2003, 09:44 **By invading Iraq Bush hopes to
1) Create at least a temporary boost to the economy 2) Cut oil prices while helping his oil exec buddies make a fortune at the same time 3) Win the approval and campaign contributions of worldwide Jewry**
1) I keep hearing this, but I don't see how it could possibly happen. Modern war costs a fortune's fortune, which means in all likelihood higher taxes, increased govt debt, and/or inflation--and that's before the occupation starts. None of this is good for business; oil and weapons stocks can't float the entire economy.
2) W has said that "in the event" we take over Iraq's oil fields, oil prices would not be lowered, just maintained. It's logical from the standpoint of an oil man, really--world oil supply is going to peak soon (sometime between 2004 and 2012), leading to ever-increasing oil prices as the supply begins to dwindle to nothing. By taking over Iraq's oil fields, we're holding America's coming oil crisis off for a few years--but cheaper fuel would increase consumption, which would just create more problems for Big Oil down the road.
3) Yes, though I think W overestimates jewry's willingness to be good to him.
So yes, President W's War on Everybody is about oil and Israel, like everyone's been saying. Though it almost seems like a recipe for the destruction of the US economy as well. We're basically becoming the Soviet Union all over again: a nonviable socialist economy propped up only by perpetual war. Except we have more welfare-leeching savages than Russia did...
2003-01-31 19:07 | User Profile
It is a stunning compliment to the power of the controlled media how easily the American public has been manipulated into seeing Iraq as a threat to world peace.
This economic midget lies 64th in the world economic table, just nosing out Luxembourg, with a total national income about 5% of the US defense budget. Prior to sanctions, it's only export industry, after oil, was dates.
There is lots of oil, to be sure. But Iraq is totally dependent on the West for the extractive technology, distribution and marketing of its oil. They want to pump it, it's all they've got.
What more would be gained by the US or anyone else through physically sitting on the wellheads? Turning off the sanctions would have the same effect.
No, the oil is a relatively minor factor in this affair. The 911 calls from the neighbor next-door-but-one are weighing much more heavily in the balance.
2003-02-01 00:54 | User Profile
Originally posted by Dan Dare@Jan 31 2003, 11:07 No, the oil is a relatively minor factor in this affair. The 911 calls from the neighbor next-door-but-one are weighing much more heavily in the balance.
And let's not forget the most pressing reason America is being mobilized to take Hussein out:
"Saddam Hussein is paying $25,000 to the relatives of Palestinian suicide bombers..." [url=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,48822,00.html]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,48822,00.html[/url]
Absolutely intolerable from Israel's point of view. And Saudia Arabia is on the same list as Iraq.
2003-02-01 03:53 | User Profile
** It is a stunning compliment to the power of the controlled media how easily the American public has been manipulated into seeing Iraq as a threat to world peace. ** (sigh) Does ANY one even remember Osama bin Laden anf Al Queda? Not in the TV news or paper media or in D.C! WTC ring a bell? NOT seemingly in our sleeping masses! <_<