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Thread ID: 4640 | Posts: 11 | Started: 2003-01-27
2003-01-27 14:40 | User Profile
"...for it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a celebrity to utter the Name of the Jew...."
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On Iraq, Janeane Garofalo Fights to Be Taken Seriously
By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, January 27, 2003
Janeane Garofalo says she knows why Fox, CNN, MSNBC and "Good Morning America" have booked her to argue against war with Iraq.
"They have actors on so they can marginalize the movement," the stand-up comic says. "It's much easier to toss it off as some bizarre, unintelligent special-interest group. If you're an actor who is pro-war, you're a hero. If you're an actor who's against the war, you're suspect. You must have a weird angle or you just hate George Bush."
The woman who once plied her trade on "The Larry Sanders Show," "Saturday Night Live" and such movies as "Reality Bites" has been all over the tube lately, arguing that the Bush administration is stampeding the country into a misguided war. And the experience has convinced her that major news organizations are unfair to liberal activists, especially of the celebrity stripe.
"I'm being treated like a child, and that's how I think the American people are being treated by their media," Garofalo says.
Entertainers must brave a certain degree of ridicule when they waltz into the public policy arena, whether it's Sean Penn going to Baghdad or Leonardo DiCaprio pitching Earth Day. They are, after all, using their fame to be heard in a way that would be impossible if they couldn't make people laugh or cry. Why, they are asked by the same programs that invited them on, should anyone care what you think?
But Garofalo, who works with the group Win Without War, says the media are not only condescending but suggest she doesn't care about the country.
CNN's Leon Harris wondered about her reaction to critics who say that she and her fellow activists "aren't patriotic Americans."
ABC's Robin Roberts asked: "Do you feel at all a risk with your career, especially after September 11th, that anything that you do is considered unpatriotic?"
CNN's Connie Chung asked about American soldiers: "Don't you feel a bit of responsibility in the sense of being supportive of them?"
That question, says Garofalo, "was so silly that it actually had me flummoxed. If you are in the antiwar movement, you obviously don't want the troops to be hurt."
How did the 38-year-old actress drift into politics? "Now that I'm sober I watch a lot of news," she says, quickly adding that critics will snort: "See, she had a drinking problem! I knew she was crazy!"
She leavens her indictment with periodic punch lines, saying reporters covering demonstrations "always interview the guy who says, 'The government has put a microchip in your dental fillings.' . . . It's disgusting that we know more about Winona Ryder's trial than we do about the Iraqi people."
But Garofalo isn't kidding when it comes to her disdain for the media: "These same corporate entities have an interest in war, have an interest in profiting from war. They represent corporate America. Corporate America dictates the news we are getting."
Does she really believe that anchors and correspondents are just following company orders? Too many, she says, "are willing to be a mouthpiece for the establishment and for White House propaganda."
While Garofalo believes Saddam Hussein is a menace -- but that U.N. weapons inspectors should be given more time -- she also tosses around the word "imperialism" and declares that "this is a manufactured conflict for the sake of geopolitical dominance in the area.
"There is no evidence of weapons of mass destruction. You never even get that idea floated in the mainstream media. If you bring it up, they hate the messenger. You've ruined everyone's good time."
What bugs the New Yorker most of all is when interviewers question whether she's torpedoing her career.
"You can't force people to cast you or become younger or more popular. What I do have is control over my mind, my life and my participation in current events. I won't stick my head in the sand and have history roll right over me. I refuse to allow my government and the mainstream media to bully me into accepting a war that is immoral and illegal. If it means people make fun of me or think I'm a jerk, or I lose a job here and there, that means nothing to me."
2003-01-27 14:58 | User Profile
CNN's Connie Chung asked about American soldiers: "Don't you feel a bit of responsibility in the sense of being supportive of them?"
That question, says Garofalo, "was so silly that it actually had me flummoxed. If you are in the antiwar movement, you obviously don't want the troops to be hurt."
Actually, Garofalo makes a very good point while Chung (being the good little federal media news babe she is) desires to confuse the public between being supportive of the Washington ZOG and being supportive of front line troops. Not wanting soldiers in the front-line danger seat in the first place is supremely supportive of them, IMHO. Garofalo doesn't want to deprive front line troops of food, ammunition and medical supplies.
2003-01-27 18:29 | User Profile
They are, after all, using their fame to be heard in a way that would be impossible if they couldn't make people laugh or cry. Why, they are asked by the same programs that invited them on, should anyone care what you think?
Perhaps for the same reason that celebrities peddle trinkets via more conventional advertising, for which the said programs depend on their existence. For instance, what would stock consumers do if the likes of Anna K. were unable to furnish portfolio advice while stretching.
2003-01-27 22:11 | User Profile
I remember seeing Janeane on Space Ghost, and she seemed like a cute, normal girl. Then I saw her on some opinion show and she seemed like a granola dyke. A very disappointing change.
She is pretty smart though; I wouldn't be surprised if she figures the media out some day soon--we'll know when it happens, because from that point on she'll never be seen on TV again.
2003-01-28 10:10 | User Profile
W. Bales,
I support the troops in a way that make me even more of a "patriot" than the liars and hirings of the media. I support them in two ways:
[list] [*]Not invading Iraq or any other place disliked by the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
[*]Bringing them back to America from overseas. [/list] :)
Neo-cons have the nasty habit of trying to surround themselves with the Armed Forces whenever someone questions them on this by implying that if you aren`t with them, (i.e., Jews and Plutocrats) you are against the troops and therefore a supporter of "terrorism" and Hussein.
Hell, seeing how the word "terrorism" is being abused in manners not done previously, I think one could make a case that Neo-cons are engaging in verbal terrorism. It looks like they want a new catchall word for the aging term "antisemitic" and "racist."
2003-01-28 12:36 | User Profile
I remember seeing Janeane on Space Ghost, and she seemed like a cute, normal girl. Then I saw her on some opinion show and she seemed like a granola dyke. A very disappointing change.
I agree. She's a very pretty, intelligent little woman, so it's a great shame she's also an abrasive feminist loudmouth. I don't think she's a lesbo, since I heard her mention her inability to find a nice man in one of her wretched stand-up routines. But she sure as hell dresses & acts butch.
She was quite charming in Matchmaker.
2003-01-28 13:03 | User Profile
Exactly, Sertorius.
It is sad how the federal media (especially Fox and CNN) have become flat-out cheerleaders for this war by, for and of the Washington ZOG.
If the truth be known, I would wager that 75% of American's are OPPOSED this bulls**t with the other 25%, including, of course, our ZOG government, American zionists & "Christian" supporters thereof, the federal media, and FreeRepublic posters.
The C-in-C should have positioned the 82nd ABN, 101st ABN, et. al., from Brownsville to San Diego and Washington to Maine on 09/12. Bush has lost his damned mind. I would not be opposed to having federal troops in all international ports and incoming international airport terminals as well as these represent American "borders" to be protected in the American national interest.
2003-01-28 14:03 | User Profile
Janeane Garofalo is most likely Right:
"They have actors on so they can marginalize the movement," the stand-up comic says. "It's much easier to toss it off as some bizarre, unintelligent special-interest group. If you're an actor who is pro-war, you're a hero. If you're an actor who's against the war, you're suspect. You must have a weird angle or you just hate George Bush."
"I remember seeing Janeane on Space Ghost, and she seemed like a cute, normal girl. Then I saw her on some opinion show and she seemed like a granola dyke. A very disappointing change."
She is a bit granola, but I do not think looks dykey.
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2003-01-28 16:07 | User Profile
I don't think Jeneane is alone. It appears that there are many, many celebrity folk out there who are vehemently Anti-War because most celebrities are raging liberal, granola eating, tree hugging activists/freaks. As matter of fact, I don't think I've heard any celebrities who are Pro-War. It's ironic that Far Leftists and Far Rightists hold similiar views on the war.
2003-01-28 16:34 | User Profile
Unlike most actresses who are continually characterized as 'talented and intelligent' - since that is now the default position for even the dumbest of porno skags and no one may say 'dumb blonde' any longer unless you're referring to a guy - she is obviously fairly bright and funny. However, bring up the subject of blacks and watch her revert to her own default settings.
Since it is the position of most people on this board that every war America's fought this century has been on behalf of, or mopping up after, Jews and their machinations, I would like very much to know which of them was worthy of full lockstep support.
(This is actually a conundrum I'd like to see Edward Gibbon's thoughts on, since he manages to be martial-minded, reverent towards military traditions and yet, at the same time, very clear-eyed about who simultaneously incites, manipulates and avoids war altogether....as well as who picks up the loose game-pieces afterwards.)
2003-01-28 17:46 | User Profile
Originally posted by Faust@Jan 28 2003, 08:03 ** "I remember seeing Janeane on Space Ghost, and she seemed like a cute, normal girl. Then I saw her on some opinion show and she seemed like a granola dyke. A very disappointing change."
She is a bit granola, but I do not think looks dykey. **
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