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Thread ID: 4618 | Posts: 16 | Started: 2003-01-26
2003-01-26 11:21 | User Profile
From United Press International, available online at: [url=http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20020912-034109-6371r]http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=200209...12-034109-6371r[/url]
Netanyahu: U.S. should attack Iran with TV
By P. Mitchell Prothero From the Washington Politics & Policy Desk Published 9/12/2002 4:50 PM
WASHINGTON, Sept. 12 (UPI) -- A former Israeli prime minister Thursday called upon the United States to effect regime change in both Iraq and Iran, prescribing a military invasion to topple the government in Baghdad and the transmission of ribald television programming via satellite into Persia, where he said the influx of pop culture would prove "subversive" to the conservative Islamic regime.
Citing the hundreds of thousands of satellite television dishes in Iran, Benjamin Netanyahu told the House Government Reform Committee that the United States could incite a revolution against the conservative Iranian clergy through the use of such Fox Broadcasting staples as "Melrose Place" and "Beverly Hills 90210" -- both of which feature beautiful young people in varying states of undress, living, glamorous, materialistic lives and engaging in promiscuous sex.
"This is pretty subversive stuff," Netanyahu told the committee. "The kids of Iran would want the nice clothes they see on those shows. They would want the swimming pools and fancy lifestyles."
But the more pressing issue to Netanyahu is Iran's neighbor, Iraq, which he said was dangerously close to developing weapons of mass destruction -- and would not be susceptible to subversion.
"We understand a nuclear armed Saddam places Israel at risk," he said. "But a nuclear armed Saddam also puts the entire world at risk."
"After Saddam gets a nuclear weapon, it is only a matter of time before the terror networks get nuclear weapons,' Netanyahu warned. "And they will use them if they get them."
Netanyahu said that the 1981 attack by Israel on an Iraqi nuclear facility was justified and implied that it's success hinged on just the kind of unilateralism that President George W. Bush's Thursday speech to the United Nations appears to abjure.
"Did Israel launch this pre-emptive strike with the coordination of the international community?" Netanyahu asked. "Did we condition such a strike on the approval of the United Nations? Of course not."
Burton's statements reflected more respect for the administration's coalition building efforts than Netanyahu's, but he did note that in the face of failing to develop such support for an invasion, he too supported a unilateral attack.
"This morning the president made a strong case for taking action. Now we need to see how the world responds," Burton noted. "I hope that our friends and allies around the world will join us. I hope that we can assemble a strong coalition that will stand up to this dangerous regime. However, if we can't, my view is that we have to do what's in our own best interest. If we determine that Saddam Hussein is a serious national security threat, then we have to act -- alone if necessary."
Netanyahu's rhetoric, at least the military invasion portion of his testimony, found a warm reception from committee Chairman Dan Burton, R-Ind., who said that finishing the war on terror with the occupation of Afghanistan without attacking Iraq would leave the job half done.
"One of the unfinished pieces of business we have is Iraq," Burton said. "In my opinion, this is a problem we can't continue to ignore. Saddam Hussein is a menace. He has chemical weapons. He has biological weapons. He's working hard to acquire nuclear weapons. He's used chemical weapons in the past. We should have no doubt that he'll use them again. And if he succeeds in developing nuclear weapons, we could have a catastrophe on our hands."
But Ohio Democrat Dennis Kucinich was not as supportive of Netanyahu's calls for war. In a terse exchange that occurred before the former prime minister laid out his "Iran Strategy," Kucinich asked him for additional suggestions for places to invade.
"While you're here, Mr. Prime Minister, are there any other countries besides Iraq that you would suggest that we invade?" he asked.
[color=red]Posted originally by Centinel. -S[/color]
2003-01-26 16:27 | User Profile
Thanks for posting this again Sertorius. Since Nentanyu isnt asking his fellow tribesman Spelling to stop making such programming available to US children, I think this has to be one of the most damning pieces of evidence for Jewish conspiracy I've seen.
2003-01-28 14:44 | User Profile
Amundsen,
This is such a revealing article that shows just how much contempt they hold us in that it deserves a place of its own. I`m glad that Centinel fished this article out of the sewage system that is our media. This is a real service in the cause of enlightenment.
**Citing the hundreds of thousands of satellite television dishes in Iran, Benjamin Netanyahu told the House Government Reform Committee that the United States could incite a revolution against the conservative Iranian clergy through the use of such [u]Fox Broadcasting staples[/u] as "Melrose Place" and "Beverly Hills 90210" -- both of which feature beautiful young people in varying states of undress, living, glamorous, materialistic lives and engaging in promiscuous sex. **
This is too funny. FOX is the biggest outlet of Israel First propaganda, yet Netanyahu not only thinks that we are too stupid to make the connection, but doesn`t seem to care about FOX either. It becomes downright hysterical when one considers that FOX cable features all these Neo-con talking heads that harp on the "family values" that FOX prime time routinely mocks.
**"This is pretty subversive stuff," Netanyahu told the committee. "The kids of Iran would want the nice clothes they see on those shows. They would want the swimming pools and fancy lifestyles." **
I cant argue with "Bibi" here. He knows, his tribe has been pushing that crap for years here in America. FOX produces some of the trashiest shows on TV when they arent shilling for Israel.
2003-01-28 18:35 | User Profile
Sounds like a good plan: televitz has been an effective weapon against White America, it should work great against Iran.
... Wait, why do we hate Iran again? I can't keep up on all the countries in queue to be attacked.
2004-04-19 17:24 | User Profile
We don't hate Iran because we are Christian and we don't hate anybody. However we recognize that Bushehr, Natanz, and Arak must be bombed if we don't want to see New York, Washington DC, or Tel Aviv, God forbid, go up in flames and mushroom clouds.
2004-04-19 20:04 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Moderate Centrist]We don't hate Iran because we are Christian and we don't hate anybody. However we recognize that Bushehr, Natanz, and Arak must be bombed if we don't want to see New York, Washington DC, or Tel Aviv, God forbid, go up in flames and mushroom clouds.[/QUOTE]
I think you should go to FreeRepublic.com right now and tell someone who cares. Beat it, Neocon.
2004-04-19 21:16 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Moderate Centrist]We don't hate Iran because we are Christian and we don't hate anybody.[/QUOTE]
Who's "we", MC? You gotta mouse in your pocket?
2004-04-20 01:34 | User Profile
With people like MC around I feel like SCREAMINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG, and telling him to go and have sexsual intercouse with himself.
Better keep my mouth shut for now, don't feel to xtian toward those people.
2004-04-20 13:13 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Moderate Centrist]We don't hate Iran because we are Christian and we don't hate anybody. However we recognize that Bushehr, Natanz, and Arak must be bombed if we don't want to see New York, Washington DC, or Tel Aviv, God forbid, go up in flames and mushroom clouds.[/QUOTE]
I've seen that picture before.
Who is that?
Man, aaaggh. I'm sure I've seen that before. I should know this. If not, then there's somebody (in one of the neocon think tanks??) who likes a lot like that.
Regards,
Walter
2004-04-20 15:34 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Raskolnikov]For the record, the joker-faced Kristol signature in MC's posts is the result of creative editing of his profile on my part. I just couldn't resist.[/QUOTE]
Ah, so that was it.
Thanks, I can go home now.
Walter
2005-05-22 03:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Drakmal]Sounds like a good plan: televitz has been an effective weapon against White America, it should work great against Iran.
... Wait, why do we hate Iran again? I can't keep up on all the countries in queue to be attacked.[/QUOTE] Hi.
I'll tell you why we "hate Iran." I don't need GWB to put Iran on my "arseholes list," they've been there since I was a teenager.
Try 1979, and 400+ days of Americans held hostage. OK, they want a revolution, have one, toss diplomats out if they find us "persona non grata." That is standard "civilized" behavior. Nope, Iran decides that civilized behavior is no longer required. Kidnapping and hostage taking are now the standard form of communication between governments.
Nice.
Since 1979, and a few years of "effing Ayatollah's" in a cathartic sense, is it reasonable to try to build a bridge, a bit at a time? Yeah.
We are doing it with Viet Nam. Could probably, with some statecraft and patience, work at it slowly. Of course, most Americans wouldn't get it, not the "instant gratification culture of ME," no.
Iran is ideologically, still, in the grip of some real arseholes. That ideology is theocratic in nature. That makes them ideologically opposed to us, as were the Communists, just for a different reason. If America were, per the general consensus of this board, to turn Christian theocratic, we'd still be at odds with Iran, a Muslim theocratic bunch.
The Axis of Evil line is pure BS. The Bush administration is nothing if not inelegant in rhetorical offerings.
The real reasons for antipathy have substance.
2005-07-04 22:04 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Moderate Centrist]We don't hate Iran because we are Christian and we don't hate anybody. However we recognize that Bushehr, Natanz, and Arak must be bombed if we don't want to see New York, Washington DC, or Tel Aviv, God forbid, go up in flames and mushroom clouds.[/QUOTE]Sure, let's just go happily into ANOTHER damned war....:shocking:
You seem to be pretty fast with starting a dust up---are you volunteering your services to do the dirty work--or, like most of the FReakers, are you more than willing to beat your chest, clamoring for war---while some other poor SOB gets his/her ass shot off? :furious:
I spend a career in the Navy (including combat) listening to those like yourself spouting your "bravery". As has been suggested by xmetalhead, go back to Freak Republic. You will find many to you liking there.
As for the "we"--that is reserved for Royalty, Schizos, and pregnant women--which are you?
2005-07-13 08:38 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Moderate Centrist]... Bushehr, Natanz, and Arak must be bombed if we don't want to see New York, Washington DC, or Tel Aviv, God forbid, go up in flames and mushroom clouds.[/QUOTE] And you think attacking Iran will prevent this?
I've got news for you, Iran ain't the only one gunning for us. We could defend ourselves, but not wage war against the entire world.
...and Tel Aviv in flames would bother me not...
2005-07-13 09:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Moderate Centrist]We don't hate Iran because we are Christian and we don't hate anybody. However we recognize that Bushehr, Natanz, and Arak must be bombed if we don't want to see New York, Washington DC, or Tel Aviv, God forbid, go up in flames and mushroom clouds.[/QUOTE] Yes, waging war on another middle eastern country is the perfect way to stop terrorism.LOL. Can I ask why you felt the need to put "god forbid" after you mentioned the nuking of Tel Aviv, like that is the worst possible thing you could imagine?
2005-07-13 09:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]Yes, waging war on another middle eastern country is the perfect way to stop terrorism.LOL. Can I ask why you felt the need to put "god forbid" after you mentioned the nuking of Tel Aviv, like that is the worst possible thing you could imagine?[/QUOTE] Goes to show who they really fight for.
2005-07-13 14:53 | User Profile
Israel wants us to bring Iran down with TV, which is the same way they brought down this once great nation. You have to admit, they have a point, it works!