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Northern Bastion [OP]

2003-01-25 04:16 | User Profile

There seems to be some smart White men here. So I ask : What is the plan to save our Nation? ;)


Hereward

2003-01-25 04:45 | User Profile

No way I can see to save the whole country. I advocate dissolving the Union into several ethnic nation-states: one for whites, one for blacks, another for hispanics and another for the we's-all-God's-chilluns-types to live together in multiracial harmony.


jay

2003-01-25 15:02 | User Profile

When I became acutely aware of our problems a few years back, I emailed Brimelow to ask him the same question: "What now" Here's the email he sent back (June, 2001:

thnx. we generally believe that the truth sets you free, i.e. knowledge must precede action, but you inspire us to commission some articles on this topic. re friends, bet they voted for bush i.e. did nothing when they had the chance! best, pb

I asked Sam Francis the same question: here's his response (2001):

There is no solution in the sense of legislation or policy that is today realistic enough to propose. It is not realistic to propose solutions because most Americans and whites especially are not ready to support or think about them. Only if white Americans are able to see the racial and cultural threats they face and their consequences can they then begin to think about practical solutions. Therefore I am less concerned to advocate "solutions" that will never take place than I am to force whites to know about what it happening and to think about what it means for them, their country, their future, and their race and civilization. Once they have thought about thse things, they may be ready to think about practical solutions. Voting Republican, I can assure you, isn;t even on the screen.

They are spot-on correct. Knowledge must precede any action. And actions taken are do-able thru legislation. I know some don't like to hear that, but there was an immigration time-out in 1920-64. Knowldege is being raised. It can happen thru awareness, and I am with them on that.

-Jay


darkeddy

2003-01-25 18:04 | User Profile

It seems to be the Brimlow's response is general enough to count as good sense. Francis's is just typical conservative negativity--he misleads his devotees with these kind of comments.

Voting Republican is very much on the radar. The farther we move the country to the Right, the more possibilities open up for ending 3rd world immigration, affirmative action (however disguised), and the nanny state. Voting for Bush isn't on the radar--voting for someone like Tancredo certainly is.

Francis approach is flawed because most Americans do not share his bitter, pessimistic character. Americans need visions of the future to accompany complaints about the present and praise of the past. We aren't that far away from limiting 3rd world immigration--as the 3rd worlders hit states besides California, NY, and Texas in real numbers, peoples ideas start to change. Likewise, we are potentially making some progress on affirmative action.

Globaly, 3rd world birth rates are declining, albeit not fast enough for us to just sit back and enjoy. Europe has moved to the right ideologically in many ways, and this will eventually translate into reductions of the nanny state. It is already translating into reduction of immigration.

A lot of possibilities are opening up. When need a variety of strategies to solve our problems, dealing with the myriad spheres of society that are central: we need strategies to change the media, different strategies to change academia, strategies for white families now, other strategies for changing government policies that affect the family. And on and on it goes.


martel

2003-01-25 18:39 | User Profile

The Republican party is the enemy of the white race and has been since the mid 1960s if not even earlier. More Republicunts voted for the 1964 Civil Rights act and the 1965 Immigration Act than the democrats.

There was some hope for the for the GOP in the 70s and 80s with the influx of white conservative ex-democrats but by the 90s the New England WASPs and the Jews had retaken control and it's been hopeless ever since. The reason no rebellion amoung whites has occurred is because of the white middle class faith in the GOP to be a protector for their racial interests. The GOP serves as a steam valve for populist and racial pressure remove the valve and white people can begin to take their country back.

What I started doing in this previous election was to vote Democrat straight down the line no matter how leftist the candidate maybe. If just a small minority of right wing white men would do this the GOP would be finished at the national level and a white people's party would have a chance to be born.

The only Republican politico I would vote for would be a Tom Tancredo/Frank Bozzerelli/David Duke type candidate.Though they are not really republicans at all but white nationalists in GOP garb. Destroying the GOP is a safe legal way of doing some good for our race. Only when the turncoat traitors are run out can an army achieve victory on the field of battle.


Walter Yannis

2003-01-27 08:36 | User Profile

Originally posted by wintermute@Jan 25 2003, 08:37 ** > **What is the plan to save our Nation? **

You know, the final plan for the salvation of our people and nation hasn't been distributed to us front line types. Need to know and all that.

Instead, we only have the marching orders for the next ten days. Using MacDonald's Culture of Critique, or any other information source you have handy, you're supposed to convert eight persons to our POV and deliver them here for further processing.

That is all, soldier.

Wintermute **

Exactly, Wintermute. Brilliant.

We are a small and despised minority. The only thing we can do is to spread knowledge to those closest to us, while taking care not to endanger our livlihood.

The other things that we can do is marry and have children (top priority), get a profession or business and move as far up and in the world of power that we can (so that we'll be there when the time comes), and continue our own reading (I've got a ways to go yet!).

Walter


Walter Yannis

2003-01-27 08:51 | User Profile

Originally posted by martel@Jan 25 2003, 18:39 ** The Republican party is the enemy of the white race and has been since the mid 1960s if not even earlier. More Republicunts voted for the 1964 Civil Rights act and the 1965 Immigration Act than the democrats. **

I agree. There is no appreciable difference between the DemonRats and the Pubbies. They're all run by the same people, and they've been fooling the American sheeple with their "good cop, bad cop" routine for the longest time now.

Jews flexed their muscles in 1964 (after they destroyed McCarthy in the 1950's), but they took over completely only with the fall of RMN in 1973. The old WASP ascendancy from whence the Bush family springs work for them now, alebit reluctantly I'm sure.

I can assure you that Jewish hegemony is no secret in big business (this from long personal experience) and that it egenders terrible resentment. Especially in Europe. Jewish power is not nearly as monolithic as some here imagine, and I think that the Jewish-lead coaltion of power could crack under a good stress surge. But there is no doubt in my mind that the Pubbie leadership is very aware of Jewish power, and they don't feel capable of raising the issue at this time.

This will change. Jewish fortunes are headed south, and they know it. Bush represents Houston Oil, and they're not Jews. They have their own interests (regretably, they don't recognize us as kin - or at least as kin worth recognizing!). The Germans and the French are going their own way. They want to run Europe as they see fit, and that means sending the Yanks home ultimately. Again, I assure you that they harbor no illusions about who actually runs Amerika.

This war might do the trick. Maybe. Just maybe.

One can always hope.

Walter


jay

2003-01-27 16:22 | User Profile

Originally posted by darkeddy@Jan 25 2003, 12:04 ** It seems to be the Brimlow's response is general enough to count as good sense. Francis's is just typical conservative negativity--he misleads his devotees with these kind of comments. **

I don't know that I agree Francis is "misleading" - I think that plenty of whites do need the drums banged in their ears so they'll wake up. Yes, he does use some hyperbole but most of what he writes, I agree with.

WYannis makes the point that I agree with: we need to marry, have children, be educated, have businesses/good jobs. Take care of yourself first, and then work on others. If you're an unemployed, uneducated fool screaming about race, nobody will take you seriously. (nor should they)

-Jay