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Thread ID: 4572 | Posts: 24 | Started: 2003-01-22
2003-01-22 17:01 | User Profile
"There was not much good news for the Jewish community in the national survey conducted by the Institute for Jewish and Community Research in San Francisco.
It found that nearly one in four Americans between the ages of 18 and 34 believe that Jewish control of the media distorts the news. That slice of the Generation X population -- 24 percent -- was higher than the 16 percent of baby boomers who held that view."
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2003-01-22 19:10 | User Profile
If those numbers are genuine (not inflated by the Jewish pollsters for some ulterior motive), then it looks like people are waking up. Good. The percentages given in the article, while indicating plenty of room for improvement, represent a greater degree of awareness than I'd have expected.
What Americans really need to realize, however, is that the Zionists (both Jews and their sycophants) control the US government whether there's a Jewish president or not. :angry:
2003-01-22 19:49 | User Profile
**If those numbers are genuine (not inflated by the Jewish pollsters for some ulterior motive), then it looks like people are waking up. **
Why would Americans with less experience in the real world have a better grasp of Jewish power than their elders. Could it be that the internet (used disproportionately by younger Americans) is making a measurable difference in attitudes?
2003-01-22 21:36 | User Profile
Originally posted by mwdallas@Jan 22 2003, 13:49 Why would Americans with less experience in the real world have a better grasp of Jewish power than their elders.ÃÂ Could it be that the internet (used disproportionately by younger Americans) is making a measurable difference in attitudes?
Could be. All that yapping about "hate" sites on the internet by the the ADL and others might be having some unintended consequences. After all, the truth is on our side and at at least a few of the young Whites that they send in our direction are going to be able to recognize it when they see it. When they're bombarded with endless hate crime propaganda on MTV, at a time when their getting mugged in school by non-Whites, it shouldn't take a lot of convincing once they find out who owns MTV and what their agenda is.
2003-01-22 22:01 | User Profile
Why would Americans with less experience in the real world have a better grasp of Jewish power than their elders. Could it be that the internet (used disproportionately by younger Americans) is making a measurable difference in attitudes?
Ok, a young adult (under 25) is going to chime in. Without the internet, I would likely have never heard about books such as Culture of Critique, never have heard the viewpoints of PaleoConservatives and White Nationalists, and would likely still be a politically correct, Libertarian-type. The destruction of the information monopoly definately made a difference in my attitude.
2003-01-22 22:57 | User Profile
** Why would Americans with less experience in the real world have a better grasp of Jewish power than their elders. Could it be that the internet (used disproportionately by younger Americans) is making a measurable difference in attitudes? **
Assuming the poll is tapping genuine sentiments there is indeed something not quite right about the ââ¬ÅAmerican Pieââ¬Â generation being better informed about anything of substance. We cannot implicate education since it is a certainty that theirs, the kind not measured by SAT scores, was superior to that of their parents (Generation Yââ¬â¢s conditioning will doubtless show further improvements). Apart from the internet, I would hazard that it is a combination of ââ¬Åloose lipsââ¬Â on the part of the youngsters, while the boomers, the scions of the ââ¬Ågreatest generation,ââ¬Â are less inclined to indirectly defile their parentsââ¬â¢ heroism and the consumer oriented culture that has arisen and made possible their unparallel wealth. All they know is that Jews played an integral part in the post war evolution of their society and if the tribe happens to derive some ancillary benefit via wholesale media ownership then they have earned it. History has shown that Jews are fully justified to be cautious. So goes their thinking, I presume.
**Ok, a young adult (under 25) is going to chime in. Without the internet, I would likely have never heard about... **
Web surfing is probably the biggest factor and I expect the commissioning of more polls along the same lines, as well as accumulation of evidence (real and imaginary) pertaining to Hale-type extremists and the Internetââ¬â¢s role in their expansion and planning of thought crimes. Evidence is being massed and prepped so that when suitable opportunity presents itself, the big push for a balance between ââ¬Åfreedom of speechââ¬Â and ââ¬Åinciting hateââ¬Â can be made and realized. All that is needed is a connection with some horrific crime and a receptive administration. The legal tap dance is a formality, although the presence of the first amendment will make for more audible clicks than those heard in Europe and elsewhere.
How do you feel about furnishing a potential exhibit #1-S, Edena? Nothing serious, mind you, just for a sideshow staring the dweeb Sociology professor with his comments concerning young impressionable minds and behavioural norms. :lol:
2003-01-22 23:55 | User Profile
Originally posted by Edana@Jan 22 2003, 16:01 ** Ok, a young adult (under 25) is going to chime in. Without the internet, I would likely have never heard about books such as Culture of Critique, never have heard the viewpoints of PaleoConservatives and White Nationalists, and would likely still be a politically correct, Libertarian-type. The destruction of the information monopoly definately made a difference in my attitude. **
I'm under 30 and found the internet a great source for information. I read the Conservative Chronicle, and found myself drawn to Sam Francis' columns. Did a GOOGLE on his name, found the forum, and followed others to this one when SFOF was shut down.
I read all sorts of varied sites. Better than listening to Dan Rather force his Democrat views on me. Reminds me of fast-food. When I grew up, there was McDonalds. Now there's......
-Jay
2003-01-23 00:40 | User Profile
Another young adult chiming in (somewhere between 20 and 22, not inclusive).
I've noticed for a while that my generation is growing up more conservative than our parents seem to have. What I'm really curious about is why... a few reasons come to mind:
The Internet is an educational tool but also is a source of culture. While there are some very dumb people on the Internet, you'll also find a lot of logical and realistic thought. Perhaps due to the increased presence of white people. Also, who can fail to notice the contrast between big jewish business that keeps raising your cable rates and providing worse service, and white folks like Linus Torvalds (and the free software movement as a whole) who put a lot of work into stuff and give it away for free? The culture that the Internet is providing is helping a lot of people deprogram themselves.
Televitz propaganda is becoming incredibly incongruous with real-life observations. The boomers had their TV slowly manipulated and distorted, giving them time to not notice--but we never had that lead-in period. So gays are just like normal people, but gay? Then what's all this I hear about gerbils? And what about that black kid who came to school with a gun and killed someone--that wasn't on the news, but all the shootings by white kids are.
Mexicans. This ties in with the above. Who are these "needed migrant workers" who "do the jobs Americans won't"? I'd cut grass for minimum wage--as would a lot of people in my area, where the unemployment rate for 18-25 year olds is over 12%. But every single hired landscaper you see is a mexican.
9/11. Come now, brown cow. When did Osama bin Laden turn into Saddam Hussein? And why were we attacked in the first place? The answer to that is all over the Internet, and people are finding it. As Carolontheweb says, jewry has been forced to turn over too many cards.
I hope the trend continues. It's often said that things have to get worse before they can get better--and it'll be the younger generation that really notices things getting worse.
Drakmal
2003-01-23 02:02 | User Profile
It means that 76 percent of young Americans are slack jawed idiots.
2003-01-23 02:33 | User Profile
Unfortunately, it does mean that at the moment. Therefore, us 25 percenters need to get busy influencing our peers :ph34r:
2003-01-23 03:26 | User Profile
Smooth............
2003-01-23 04:07 | User Profile
Age 25 here. Same story as all the rest; I've just come across too much information about America's racial demographic situation and the composition of the Media Elite that 1) makes sense to me intellectually as well as on a gut-level, and 2) also happens to be suspiciously/vigorously suppressed by the "mainstream" media.
The b*stards stole this country from me before I was born, as I see it, and that makes me infinitely angry. They are my permanent enemy, and I hope one day to see them all pay.
2003-01-23 05:12 | User Profile
Age 32 checking in. In the early 90's only Chronicles magazine gave me any decent political discussion on America's globalist problems. Now I can get information 24 hours a day if I want ,from sources much more radical than Tom Fleming's magazine. I know I have become more radical as far as white nationalism goes and hopefully headway is being made with millions of young white people as well.
2003-01-23 10:02 | User Profile
Thirty-three and holdin', WM, so I got ya' by dos anos, my elder brother. DM aint THAT old, after all. I didn't have much use for them after around '88 or so.
2003-01-23 12:39 | User Profile
Originally posted by mwdallas@Jan 22 2003, 19:49 ** > **If those numbers are genuine (not inflated by the Jewish pollsters for some ulterior motive), then it looks like people are waking up. **
Why would Americans with less experience in the real world have a better grasp of Jewish power than their elders. Could it be that the internet (used disproportionately by younger Americans) is making a measurable difference in attitudes? **
I think the internet is part of it. Gen X basically grew up with it and so they're very adept with surfing the net and finding information on it. The existence of websites like OD, VDARE and others certainly shortcircuit the IP's media monopoly, and that must have an effect.
But in general I think that Gen X'ers are more cynical about appearances. We boomers were raised for the most part in intact families at a time when the streets were safe and killing babies was illegal. Gen X'ers were raised by the "me" generation - one of the most self-absorbed of all time - in an environment of rapidly-depreciating social capital. The failure of the adults in their lives properly to look after them tended to make them mistrustful of all authority. Based on my experience, they tend to simply presume ulterior motives in everything. They're by contrast very un-idealistic, at least compared to the starry-eyed 60's generation.
As Yggrasil recently put it "we can work with that."
I certainly hope so.
Walter
2003-01-23 12:50 | User Profile
I'm in my mid-40's, by the way.
That makes me Grampa of the group!
Respect your elders, children . . .
Walter
2003-01-23 12:54 | User Profile
What's interesting is that this trend is increasing among otherwise racially-unaware kids. I already assume under-30s at sites like this are cut from different cloth to begin with. But the free-Mumia idiot who cultivates a distaste for Jews is a delightful seasoning to the stew, as well as a burgeoning phenomenon worthy of study.
In the 50s and early 60s, though Jews certainly had power and influence in America, they had a sotto-voce presence here. Soft shoulders was the prevailing strategy, and nobody said "Happy Holidays" in December.
But it was the dawn of youth culture, and its ridiculous postulate that a college student's point of view is every bit as valid and wise as that of a 50 year old man's. As a predictable result, the 60s generation - fuelled by this fairy tale reality - tore down all the old holies and replaced them with new gods....one of which was the holy holy get-out-of-jail-free card of the Holocaust. Of course, as the driving force of all this youth culture was Jews, it shouldn't surprise us. Go ahead and look for a reference to "the Holocaust" in any book published before, say, 1962 - look in books written by Jews, even! They're not there. The term...and certainly the secular religion it birthed....both came into being 20 years after the end of WW2, in the Swingin' Sixties.
But nobody fiddles in glee while Rome burns quite like the Chosen, so it's not only richly ironic but inescapable that today's youth would swing the pendulum back the other way. Having been spoonfed bedtime stories of the horrible horrible Nazis and the good, pure, blameless Jews from the cradle...only to grow up and STILL be trapped in this Mobius strip of soggy moralism, hearing endless variations of Jew: Good, Wise & Kind VS Non-Jew: Hateful, Repressed and Violent...is it any wonder today's kids long to burn down their parents' temples too?
This doesn't mean, for a second, that today's youth is any better or wiser than the kids of 35 years ago. Youth culture is still garbage culture, but instead of the sobbing violinist shunted onto the cattle-car, today's snot-nosed kid prefers to worship the defiant, dread-locked gangbanger who slurs out "rhymes" as the visible emblem of their defiance of their parents' values, as well as their own Incorruptible Good Intentions. There simply isn't enough sex-appeal to moaning helplessly in a death camp in Poland somewhere to interest little Brandon or Brittany; Hymie offers very few telegenic virtues to today's MTV generation.
But that the pendulum is swinging the other way on the Dershowitzim is the kind of Obvious Conclusion anybody but a Jew would see coming; Jews being the sort of people who routinely find money and celebrate their good fortune - without noticing [or caring] that they had to pry open Pandora's Box to get their hands on it.
(Oh yeah...I'm 42 - and feelin' every day of it.....)
2003-01-23 13:19 | User Profile
There's nothing wrong with these incipient adolescent anti semites that compulsory viewings of The Diary of Anne Frank, Exodus, Schindler's List, and my all time favorite jew as victim film, The Pawnbroker - won't cure.
We could prop their eyeballs open like that guy in Clockwork Orange in case they tried to blink or something.
Sure, technically it might be a little over the line constitutionally if you want to be a strict constructionist, but we can't have a bunch of anti semites running around between Brittney Spears concerts, can we?
2003-01-24 06:32 | User Profile
37 and holding here. And yes, the internet was crucial in opening my eyes. When I first got online, I was still a conservative, albeit a very disgruntled one. My discontent grew throughout the Klinton '90s: non-stop jew cultural dreck, the L.A. Riots, the jubilant nigra response to the O.J. acquittal, the impotent cowardice of the Repubs during the impeachment fiasco - it all caused the rage to build in me to the bursting point. Then I got this computer and headed for the websites of those awful racist anti-Semites nice Mr. Dees warned me to stay away from.
And the rest, as they say, is history.
2003-01-24 16:16 | User Profile
Originally posted by il ragno@Jan 23 2003, 06:54 ** But that the pendulum is swinging the other way on the Dershowitzim is the kind of Obvious Conclusion anybody but a Jew would see coming; Jews being the sort of people who routinely find money and celebrate their good fortune - without noticing [or caring] that they had to pry open Pandora's Box to get their hands on it. **
They're going to neutralize any movement by the 2 obvious means:
1) Mass immigration 2) Hijacking the GOP
Mass immigration is obvious - more hispanics means more political differences/issues and distractions. The white majority is history.
However, hijacking the GOP is more important. Now, there's not even a POLITICAL choice anymore. And they'll come up with immigration "reform" (slowing it from 1M to 800K muds entering our homelands) and claim credit for it.
-Jay
2003-01-30 01:02 | User Profile
Hey lets wake up and smell the coffee here. Whats actually happening is that generation x is composed of more minorities than boomers, and as time goes on will be even more so. Another trend is that conservatives are becoming more pro Jewish and liberals just the opposite. These minorities, as everyone already knows, tend to be "liberal". So that in itself is a big reason for the rise in anti-Semitism in the younger generation.
2003-01-30 06:59 | User Profile
**Gen X'ers were raised by the "me" generation - one of the most self-absorbed of all time - in an environment of rapidly-depreciating social capital. The failure of the adults in their lives properly to look after them tended to make them mistrustful of all authority. Based on my experience, they tend to simply presume ulterior motives in everything. They're by contrast very un-idealistic, at least compared to the starry-eyed 60's generation. **
I missed the beginning of the 'mistrust the govt' party that Gen-Xers were having.... When I was younger, the populace generally believed the govt, and it was a left-liberal thing to mistrust the govt (Viet Nam war started a lot of it...).
When X-Files showed up, I finally recognized that 'the masses' would now accept that the govt was 'black' and lying and covering up and murdering and so on... But it was that show, more than any other, that let me 'test the temperature' of the people...
2003-01-30 15:27 | User Profile
The polls are designed to make "anti-semitism" look much bigger than it is. The ADL has conducted polls with similar results.
What the ADL does is ask true or false questions like, "Jews like to be the boss of everything," and "Jews have to much influence in hollywood." Now Forward Magazine, the largest Jewish publication in the world openly brags that Jews like to be the boss of everything and that they dominate hollywood. However, the Gentiles who answered "True" are labled "hard-core anti-semites" by the ADL.
So these types of polls are total bull.
2003-02-02 05:40 | User Profile
Well kiddos, I'm not young, far from it, but I must confess that I find this thread ( indeed the entire forum ) to be very encouraging. Seems that political correctness has not yet taken over here, but that might just be a matter of time. I pray that I'm wrong.