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2003-01-22 12:58 | User Profile
Jared Taylor to Appear on Donahue Show (MSNBC)
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Posted 1/21/03
Jared Taylor to Appear on Donahue
Jared Taylor is scheduled to appear on the MSNBC program Donahue on Wednesday, January 22, at 8:00pm ET. Mr. Taylor's appearance will be part of Donahue's "Angry White Men" series.
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2003-01-22 13:17 | User Profile
Don't get your hopes up too much.
I watched the first AWM show on Donahue which supposedly featured Pat Buchanan.
It was a total waste of time.
A smirking condescending attitude by Donahue towards the whites is a given. His sympathies are with the negroes whom he has packed the arena with. And as for the negroes, they have no sympathy for anyone but themselves and openly mock the complaints of the whites that Phil has assembled. Jared Taylor is making a huge mistake appearing on this show. He is a gentleman. And a gentleman is at a severe disadvantage in a shoutfest like this.
Having a dialogue with negroes is pointless!
That is what the sensible white will conclude after this show.
2003-01-22 13:37 | User Profile
On the other hand, if just half the OD regulars tune in, Donahue's Neilsens double!
2003-01-22 17:48 | User Profile
My advice to Taylor is to go ugly early.
His opponents will.
Any attempt at gentlemanly discourse will be seen as a sign of weakness and they will be at his throat.
Buchanan did precisely this in his first exchange with some stupid negro comedian who said that hate laws were needed to protect blacks from whites.
"You don't know what you're talking about" was Pat's preface then he let the guy have it with the statistics which rendered him speechless.
After that, Pat, who was not in the studio but was hooked up by remote, seemed lost in all the shouting and countercharges.
Reparations is sure to come up, as it did in the first one. The arrogant but transparently stupid comedian made a set little speech where he said "black people built this country, plain and simple, and you owe us". The negros in the studio naturally responded enthusiastically to this applause line.
Jared needs to simply say in response "you picked cotten. You didn't settle the west, you didn't build the roads, you didn't build the railroads, you didn't make the steel, you didn't mine the coal, you didn't build the scyscrapers. You didn't fight the wars. White people did. YOU PICKED COTTON."
When faced with a bold lie such as "we built this country" you have to respond with an equally bold truth or you have already lost the argument. And it helps to embellish the bold truth with some "stretchers" of your own. The Marquis of Queensbury will not be referring tonight. Phil Donahue will. So kicking and gouging are allowed.
When I watch debates of this type I am always struck by how ignorant negros are of real history, particularly theirs.
If Jared if remoted in tonight, he will probably be a pushover for these guys because it puts him at a severe disadvantage.
2003-01-22 19:21 | User Profile
From americanpatrol.com:
Spencer Cancels Tonight's Donahue Appearance
1/21/03 -- When Glenn Spencer found out that the theme of all Donahue shows this week is "Angry White Men", he called and canceled his appearance that had been scheduled for tonight.
Tuesday, January 21st, 2003
Tonight: One People, One Language?
Wednesday: Should America close its borders?
In case you missed last night's fireworks, during which conservative talk host Neal Boortz walked off the show, don't miss tonight's "Donahue." Continuing our "Angry White Men Week," we're doing our part to tread on the same ground as mad-as-hell talk radio hosts by asking: Should English be the official U.S. language? Are immigrants and minorities who don't assimilate undermining our national cohesion? Indeed, is our country losing its cultural identity?
Defenders of a multicultural America say these questions reflect a fear of difference, a fear of immigrants unbecoming a strong nation. After all, when poet Emma Lazarus wrote the verse that adorns our Statue of Liberty, "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free," she certainly didn't intend to identify the easy scapegoats of the future.
Joining Phil to debate these issues of national cohesion, identity and language will be talk radio hosts Jim Bohannon and Dick Farrel, Jim Boulet of English First, Gerson Borrero of El Diario, the largest Spanish-language newspaper in New York, and University of Pennsylvania professor Tukufu Zuberi, an expert on racial issues.
As a bonus, Phil will introduce you to Richard Kidman, owner of an Arizona drive-in restaurant in which most customers and employees are Navajo. When Kidman demanded that employees speak only English at work (unless addressing non-English speaking customers), resistant employees say they were fired. Kidman is now being sued. This isn't a case of "if immigrants come to our land, they must quickly learn English!" The Navajos were the original Americans on the land -- yet some don't want them to speak their language. We'll want your reaction to this fascinating case.
As always, you can join the discussion by email or phone.
2003-01-22 19:55 | User Profile
University of Pennsylvania professor Tukufu Zuberi, an expert on racial issues.
Surprise, surprise, surprise...
[url=http://www.ssc.upenn.edu/soc/People/zuberitukufu.html]http://www.ssc.upenn.edu/soc/People/zuberitukufu.html[/url]
Lest you think he's really from Africa, his birth name is apparently "Antonio McDaniel."
2003-01-22 20:03 | User Profile
Antonio McDaniel?
Wasn't he the 2 guard off the bench for the Supersonics back in the mid-90s?
2003-01-22 20:04 | User Profile
LOL! Great photo, I about fell over laughing at that smirking congoid. He is an expert on race issues. He'll have no problem correcting novices like Taylor and exposing the "ignorance" of the white male
-Jay
2003-01-22 20:15 | User Profile
[color=green]Defenders of a multicultural America say these questions reflect a fear of difference, a fear of immigrants unbecoming a strong nation. [/color]
No more telling landmarks of where we've come (and where we're yet headed) than the semantic pollution our cultural educators poison everyday life with.
What once were "subversives" - panacea salesmen with a separate, sinister agenda camouflaged behind the Sunny-Jim koombaya external front of 'tolerance' and 'brotherhood' - have now become "defenders of a multicultural America".....the loaded words here of course being "defenders of America", implying a reverence of tradition and conservatism and common sense. This for people who believe, to their foundations, that government taking a third of your income to provide free stuff for people who'd like very much to kill you is the Natural Order Of Things.
The fact that Phil Donahue remained married to that Lebanese drink of cod-liver-oil, Marlo Thomas, for a *quarter-century * - enduring tens of thousands of hours of self-empowering psychobabble and sophistry over countless breakfast tables without ever fatally wounding her, or himself, is proof that the man must be kept away from broadcasting, by court order if necessary.
2003-01-23 00:15 | User Profile
I'll be recording this one. I agree that Taylor needs to come out swinging if he's not going to be steamrolled by the mudpuppies. Race traitor Donahue & the rabid nigras can smell blood when they sense a White advocate isn't 100% confident in his facts and in the rightness of his position (which I know Taylor is). To hesitate or to back up even one step is to be verbally knocked out; the carefully chosen crowd howling with derision at your expense, thus placing the desired impression in the lemming mind that you're just another White Racist Loser with bullsh-t ideas.
Another vital thing Taylor needs to remember is make no attempts at humor. I saw Duke on Politically Incorrect one night and he was using cold facts to kick the hell out of jew Maher & his nigra/pinko helpers - but then, in a foolish attempt to show the hostile crowd that, hey, he's really a Nice Guy, he cracked a joke. Disaster. Of course the crowd jeered instead of laughed. He should've known that's what they were there for.
Taylor must keep in mind that they are the enemy, and coolly stick to his role as (in his own words)"the uptown bad guy".
2003-01-23 02:29 | User Profile
I just watched it. Taylor assaulted Donahue with facts and common sense, and Donahue got emotional and poured out cliche platitudes. I loved how he asked Donahue if there are any majority mexican or black neighborhoods and schools he would want to live in and send his children to, and Donahue changes the subject.
2003-01-23 02:50 | User Profile
One week ago I went to a debate which Peter Brimelow took part in and though there was a large representation of both rich WASPS and Jews the audience was more than 50% on Mr Brimelows side. In fact several outbursts took place when the pro-immigration side made an especially idiotic point. The Donahue audience had to be filled with ringers most of them applauded the anti-white cliches Phil was spouting no matter how stupid. Mr Taylor did his usual masterful job but jew Malzberg was there just to confuse the issue.America needs Jared Taylor for a full hour at least on prime time television to educate the masses out of their slumber.
2003-01-23 14:25 | User Profile
Phil's ratings must have spiked after the first AWM show so he's going back to the well.
I came away from it with renewed admiration for good old Jared. He takes a lot of body shots but just keeps punching. And every once in a while he let's them have one below the belt.
His sarcastic comeback to the imbecile Phil's paen to "Hispanic family values" was classic.
"Oh, really, then why is their syphillis rate so high?"
All Phil could muster was a pathetic "Oh, come on".
It was as if Marlo had said "you can get on top if you want this time, Phil".
And despite the inevitable idiotic whites who were lining up to applaud their immersion in the genetic sump, even Ole Phil acknowledged to Jared that he had lots of supporters there.
The show was frustrating because the other conservative present was so out in left field and only opposed illegal immigartion. The gentlemanly Jared remarked that the guy was missing the entire point. Legal immigration was the problem.
I kept switching back to O'Reilly who had the Poet laureate of New Jersey on.
It was a new low for Bill.
The whole interview can be summed up in this exchange:
O'Reilly: I think you're a looney.
PL: I think you're a bigger looney.
The whole freakin interview was like that.
2003-01-23 17:13 | User Profile
Originally posted by eric von zipper@Jan 22 2003, 17:48 ** Jared needs to simply say in response "you picked cotten. You didn't settle the west, you didn't build the roads, you didn't build the railroads, you didn't make the steel, you didn't mine the coal, you didn't build the scyscrapers. You didn't fight the wars. White people did. YOU PICKED COTTON."
**
"YOU PICKED COTTEN, and didn't even do a good job of that..."
Donahue has the attitude that if a black man throws a punch at you and you duck, ducking is proof of racism thus proof that you deserved the punch.
I'd also play up the black culture fo theft and say that the demand for reparations is just another way blacks are trying to loot America. I'd also come armed with a number of statistics, complete with written references (e.g. blacks are 50 times more likely to...)
"Are you paying the ten thousand dollars that it costs per year to educate each of your children?" "Who's paying for those foot stamps that you're using?" "Are you really too stupid to get a job withour racial preferences?"
2003-01-24 03:35 | User Profile
I eagerly tuned in the AWM episode last night and have to say I was disappointed in Jared Taylor's performance.
He was quite effective in the first segment where he was 1:1 with Donahue, but he hardly showed at all in the rough and tumble later segments. He seemed to be fidgety and ill-at-ease and almost relieved when the show was hijacked by Steve Malzberg and his one-note 'illegals will kill us all' diatribe.
I just don't feel this kind of downmarket knockabout plays to Jared's strengths and would be happy if he doesn't repeat the experience.
Having said that, where on American televitz could an intellectual like Jared stand a chance of a fair hearing?
I write this as a long term Amren subscriber and supporter.
2003-01-24 06:08 | User Profile
I think Taylor did a good job. When he was one-on-one with Donohue, he gave the leftist dirtbag a thorough ass-whuppin', deftly countering Donahue's attacks with attacks of his own - the only way to do it. And he stood by every word when the punk quoted him about the Confederacy. He could hardly get a word in edgewise once that loudmouthed safety valve jew Malzberg came on. Who could, trying to be heard over both him and Marlo's wife?
When White spokesmen take the aggressive approach like that, the enemy is thrown off balance because they're used to instant red-faced backtracking from accused Whites. The Donahues are therefore reduced to sputtered inanities, due to the weakness of their arguments.
All in all, I give Taylor a solid B.
2003-01-24 16:20 | User Profile
Originally posted by N.B. Forrest@Jan 24 2003, 02:08 I think Taylor did a good job. When he was one-on-one with Donohue, he gave the leftist dirtbag a thorough ass-whuppin', deftly countering Donahue's attacks with attacks of his own - the only way to do it. And he stood by every word when the punk quoted him about the Confederacy. He could hardly get a word in edgewise once that loudmouthed safety valve jew Malzberg came on. Who could, trying to be heard over both him and Marlo's wife?
**
I agree. Taylor led with facts, and Donahue was left with dramatic wincing and sneers. It was very apparent that after Taylor nailed Donahue- demanding that Phil identify one minority neighborhood in which he would live (which Donahue could not do)- that the host and guests were actively attempting to silence Taylor. He was very effective in the opening half, when he was allowed to speak.
One thing that was apparent- and hopefully apparent to those on the fence- was that Donahue had set Taylor up with audience selection and the few "facts" he presented. The Mexican illegal held up as a shining example was almost laughable. So were some of the other script-reading "audience" members who chimed in on Donahue's cue. It began to be almost bizarre when Donahue- just after being pinned to the mat by Taylor's quoting minority crime statistics- turned to the audience and went into a "Ain't New York City great" act to predictable applause. Strangest of all was Donahue's bald-faced lie- never corrected- that most Medal of Honor winners were Hispanic. He actually stated that there were more medals awarded to Hispanics than whites, then refused to address Taylor's challenge. Any thinking person would pick up on that and begin to wonder what was in the soup.
I'd go a B+, maybe better, just for going into the lion pit and keeping his cool. I do think he showed a bit of frustration, but Donahue and Malzberg were obviously teaming up to prevent any openings in the later segments. Even the "libertarian" Boortz- more bombastic than Limbaugh- was undercut and eventually walked out on a previous AWM show.
I'm hoping for a repeat. I think Taylor may have given some folks cause to think.
2003-01-24 19:48 | User Profile
Neil Boortz, the wholly-owned subsidiary (although he poses as a libertarian) will apparently be the only guest on Phil Donohue next Friday (Jan 31) -- apparently after he walked out this week, he posted his version of the events on his site, and the Donohue producer called and asked him to come up for a single-guest show.
2003-01-25 09:25 | User Profile
One thing that was apparent- and hopefully apparent to those on the fence- was that Donahue had set Taylor up with audience selection and the few "facts" he presented. The Mexican illegal held up as a shining example was almost laughable. So were some of the other script-reading "audience" members who chimed in on Donahue's cue.
Yes indeed. How about that very last one, the fat jew-looking broad who said she agreed with Malzberg's complaints against illegal immigrants, but not with Taylor's race-based stance?
The last word (the one that often sticks in the lemming mind) given to the race mixers. How very slick - or so Donahue thinks. I'll wager that any viewer with 2 functioning brains cells could see right through that old pinko ploy.
Donahue, in his desperation to keep his smirking puss on the air, has reluctantly decided to provide a forum for a few of the most articulate (and therefore dangerous from his standpoint) White spokesmen out there. After a sound thrashing at the hands of Taylor, I bet he's already begun to rue that decision.
2003-01-26 14:18 | User Profile
Show transcript here: [url=http://www.msnbc.com/news/863405.asp?cp1=1]http://www.msnbc.com/news/863405.asp?cp1=1[/url]
2003-01-26 15:57 | User Profile
Now this makes me Mad!!!
*TAYLOR: ... The jobs issue, I think, are far less important. Far less important than the question of national identity. You probably havenââ¬â¢t heard of (UNINTELLIGIBLE), have you? DONAHUE: Probably havenââ¬â¢t. TAYLOR: (SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE). It has chapters in universities all across the country, high schools as well. And their plan is to carve out what they call ââ¬ÅThe Bronze Continent.ââ¬Â Itââ¬â¢s called Aslan, from which all whites will be kicked out and it will be a sort of northern chunk of Mexico. You donââ¬â¢t call that a threat? *
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2003-01-26 16:01 | User Profile
ââ¬ËDonahueââ¬â¢ for Jan. 22
transcript to Wednesdayââ¬â¢s show
Guests: Jared Taylor
ANNOUNCER: Now, DONAHUE.
Tonight: the American dream. Over a million people cross U.S. borders every year in search of it. But as the unemployment numbers creep up, does a foreign work force leave American labor in the cold?
Plus-immigration in the age of terrorism. Are tougher restrictions doing the job or is America leaving itself wide open to a terrorist attack? DONAHUE goes inside the issue, starting right now.
PHIL DONAHUE, HOST: Good evening and welcome to DONAHUE, live from New York City. Tonight, we continue our debate with angry white men. And they appear to be everywhere, may I say.
Weââ¬â¢re looking at how immigrants are impacting America from concerns about terrorism to lost jobs. Should foreigners be kept out?
America has been known as the land of opportunity, opening its borders when other nations shut theirs. Some feel weââ¬â¢ve gone too far. There are over 30 million immigrants living now in the United States.
Iââ¬â¢m with the Jared Taylor. Heââ¬â¢s the editor of American Renaissance, a publication dealing with race and immigration.
You think Latinos are a threat. Whatââ¬â¢s the threat?
JARED TAYLOR, ED., AMERICAN RENAISSANCE: The threat, they articulate quite clearly in what they describe, in fact, as reconquista-reconquering the southwest part of the United States.
DONAHUE: They do say that?
TAYLOR: Oh, of course they say that.
Have you never heard of the movement? The Mexican officials themselves are proud of the fact that as they say, street by street, town by town, Mexico is taking back the southwestern part of the United States.
DONAHUE: You donââ¬â¢t want any more Mexicans to come to the United States?
TAYLOR: No, I think 15 million is enough. Donââ¬â¢t you? Fifteen million, for heavenââ¬â¢s sake?
DONAHUE: Keep them out. Youââ¬â¢re a Mexican, youââ¬â¢re out of here.
TAYLOR: And many of them are coming despite our laws. They cross our borders illegally. They then-some of them go on welfare. They cause all sort of problem in terms of bilingual education, interpreters in courtroom, the Hispanic violent crime rate is about three times the white crime rate.
Why should we want these people here?
DONAHUE: Do you think theyââ¬â¢re taking our job as well, do you?
TAYLOR: Oh, I think certainly they take job from people with lower skills. And that would primarily be black people. The jobs issue, I think, are far less important. Far less important than the question of national identity.
You probably havenââ¬â¢t heard of (UNINTELLIGIBLE), have you?
DONAHUE: Probably havenââ¬â¢t.
TAYLOR: (SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE). It has chapters in universities all across the country, high schools as well. And their plan is to carve out what they call The Bronze Continent. Itââ¬â¢s called Aslan, from which all whites will be kicked out and it will be a sort of northern chunk of Mexico. You donââ¬â¢t call that a threat?
DONAHUE: You know, J. Edgar Hoover said there was a Communist under every bed-or seemed to be imply that. Big threat. Now thereââ¬â¢s a Mexican under every bed.
Do you have any idea the contributions that Latino have made to the United States? Incidentally, we looked this up. Did you know that there are more Medal of Honor winner are Latino than any other ethnic group?
TAYLOR: That would surprise me.
More Latinos than white? I would be very surprised.
DONAHUE: Governor Richardson of New Mexico.
TAYLOR: Yes.
DONAHUE: Is a Latino...
TAYLOR: You would not know to look at him, would you?
DONAHUE: His motherââ¬â¢s name was Lopez.
TAYLOR: OK.
DONAHUE: Are you sorry he came? And how do you feel by the way, of Governor Jeb Bushââ¬â¢s marriage. Heââ¬â¢s married to a woman of Mexican origin.
TAYLOR: And you know, his nephew says, "We have to defend our race." And heââ¬â¢s not talking that his fatherââ¬â¢s side of the family. Heââ¬â¢s talking about Hispanics.
When he goes on and campaigns for his uncle, he talks about we need people who will defend our race. The organization, one of the most important...
DONAHUE: Defend his race against the bigotry thatââ¬â¢s being promoted by among other people, American Renaissance magazine.
TAYLOR: Just wanting to be left alone is bigotry? Why is that?
DONAHUE: Abe Foxman called your Renaissance magazine-American Renaissance, a white supremacist magazine. Thatââ¬â¢s true, isnââ¬â¢t it?
TAYLOR: Heââ¬â¢s wrong. Heââ¬â¢s absolutely wrong.
A supremacist presumably wants to rule over others. My point is simply, people prefer the company of people like themselves.
Please just leave us alone. Imagine if hundreds of thousands of white Americans were pouring across the border into Mexico, insisting on instruction in English, celebrating the Fourth of July rather than Cinco de Mayo, insisting on ballot papers in English?
Do you think the Mexicans could be tricked into that that was cultural enrichment? Never. They would recognize an invasion when they saw it. And so should we.
DONAHUE: But I think we can benefit from more interchange and more commerce with this culture.
TAYLOR: How many million do you want?
DONAHUE: I want to show you a quote that you made-a quote from a speech that you made not long ago. It was 1966. You spoke at the Jefferson Davis-
TAYLOR: 1996.
DONAHUE: 1996, sorry. This is the Jefferson Davis monument, right where you belong. Fairfield, Kentucky.
Does America need Haitians, Mexicans and Cambodians and Guatemalans by the millions? Where these people settled, be it Miami, South Central Los Angeles or Brownsville, Texas, these places cease to be parts of the United States and become parts of the Third World.
TAYLOR: Never a truer word was said.
DONAHUE: You believe this? Theyââ¬â¢re a threat to our jobs. Theyââ¬â¢re a threat to our culture? I mean, how frightened are you going to be?
TAYLOR: Tell me this, Mr. Donahue. Can you name a single majority nonwhite neighborhood you would like to live in? A majority Mexican-a majority Mexican neighborhood would you like to live in?
Or can you name a single majority black or Hispanic school you would like your children to go to? Please. Just one. Just one.
DONAHUE: You have this notion. If youââ¬â¢re here to say that every neighborhood in which people of color live go to seed, you cannot support that assertion.
TAYLOR: Then name one would you like to live in. Just one. Just one.
DONAHUE: I want to know more about this threat. Jobs especially, you think.
TAYLOR: No, not especially job. Job are, I think, are relatively a minor matter. The fact is, most white Americans, whether they admit it or not, they believe what I believe. And that is why, when the school district, when the neighborhood, when the church, all of that turns Mexican or Haitian or Guatamalan, they clear out.
DONAHUE: They do.
TAYLOR: And where do they go? They go to neighborhoods that are still majority white. And Iââ¬â¢m telling you, itââ¬â¢s natural, normal and healthy for them to do that.
Every other group takes that for granted. They prefer to be with people who are like themselves. Thereââ¬â¢s nothing wrong with that.
DONAHUE: At the Jefferson Davis monument, your speech: Ladies and gentlemen, you said grandly, "weââ¬â¢re gather here today to celebrate the memory of these brave men who gave their lives for their country-for the Confederate States of America. Why do we still remember them and honor them more than 130 years after the gun fell silent? Why does the Confederate soldier and what he stood for inspire us?"
The confederate soldier stood for slavery. Does that inspire you?
TAYLOR: One household in six owned slaves in the Confederacy. A small minority.
The people who fought for Robert E. Lee were not fighting for slavery. They were fighting for independence, just the way their ancestors fought for independence from England.
DONAHUE: "Iââ¬â¢m proud to be a Southerner. Iââ¬â¢m proud of the men who wore the gray. Iââ¬â¢m proud of my heritage, proud of my race and proud of my people."
Youââ¬â¢re not a white supremacist?
TAYLOR: No, no, no. You can be proud of your family without having any sense of superiority?
DONAHUE: So, because only a few of them owned slaves, then thatââ¬â¢s why you can actually sit here and suggest that the war that they fought was not in support of slavery?
TAYLOR: They fought for independence. They fought for it just as, as I say, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and those people, they likewise fought for independence.
Do you know, the great seal of the Confederacy, has an image of George Washington on it, because they felt they were precisely in the same tradition.
DONAHUE: All right.
TAYLOR: They were rebelling against taxation from a distant power.
DONAHUE: Donald (ph) from Florida. Glad you waited. Hi.
CALLER: How are you doing?
DONAHUE: Good.
CALLER: What I have to say is Iââ¬â¢ve been in the service business, the construction business for the last 25 years. Iââ¬â¢ve watched the Mexicans come in and basically cutthroat the prices on the work, do the work for a fraction of what the American would do it and what it should be done for.
They basically have taken over at least 50 to 60 percent of the work force thatââ¬â¢s out there for the working construction labor type man because they will do the work for next to nothing.
DONAHUE: Right. And who do you blame for that?
CALLER: I blame the U.S. for letting them come over here.
DONAHUE: What about the Caucasian construction company owner?
CALLER: Yes. Theyââ¬â¢ve come in and just taken over. And they leave the working man. You teach one of them and the rest of them, they work for nothing.
DONAHUE: Hereââ¬â¢s from your fundraising letter.
(CROSSTALK)
DONAHUE: Well, you know, you canââ¬â¢t back up from this.
TAYLOR: I havenââ¬â¢t backed off a single thing youââ¬â¢ve said. No truer words said.
DONAHUE: More and more white are beginning to realize what is at stake. Youââ¬â¢re asking for money.
Over the year, as a guest on hundreds of radio call in programs.
TAYLOR: Hundreds.
DONAHUE: Boy, those radio programs cannot wait to put you on.
I have experienced firsthand a reawakening of white racial consciousness. Whites are beginning to see that our people, our children our nation and our way of life is a threat.
TAYLOR: Indeed.
DONAHUE: Youââ¬â¢re in a losing battle here.
Incidentally, as you may know, by 2050, only 53 percent of us will be Caucasian.
TAYLOR: Do you think thatââ¬â¢s a good thing?
DONAHUE: Sure. I think weââ¬â¢re all Godââ¬â¢s children. And I think-I donââ¬â¢t think first of all, thereââ¬â¢s anything we can do about it. You have too many Spanish speaking, brown-skinned people south of our border. Youââ¬â¢re not going to be able to stand up and build a fence and say No, you canââ¬â¢t come here. Welcome them. Look what theyââ¬â¢ve contributed to our culture already. Weââ¬â¢ve got astronauts in space. All kinds of people all kinds of people of Latino heritage have come here and realized the American dream, and youââ¬â¢re up here saying your scared of it.
TAYLOR: If it is good for the majority of the population, whites in America to be reduce for a minority, why isnââ¬â¢t it good for Mexicans, for Nigerians, for Japanese. Why shouldnââ¬â¢t they all be reduce to do minorities by immigrants.
DONAHUE: Whatââ¬â¢s good for us is good for them. I think that the Mexican-the state of Mexico could be enriched by a more diverse population. All of us could be.
TAYLOR: Do you think they would stand for it?
DONAHUE: Thatââ¬â¢s why we have such a great city here called New York City. Where everybody gets along. Weââ¬â¢ll be back-listen I want to show you this.
Before we go to break, take look at what a famous American said about immigrants.
This a quote from a famous American, you are going to tell me who said this. They will soon outnumber us, that all the advantages we have will not in my opinion be able to preserve our language and even our government will become precarious.
Who said that?
TAYLOR: Probably one of the founding fathers.
DONAHUE: The answer when we come back in just a moment.
2003-01-26 16:19 | User Profile
I watched the show and thought Taylor did a fine job given the setting. Donahue's goal is to work the emotions. Taylor by staying calm and responding with facts did as effective a job as one can do. We have all run into people who refuse to use their reasoning and rely soly on feeling. Such people are irritating, dangerous, and impossible to sway.
The most blood boiling statement of the show was made by the hispanic immigration lawyer. He tried to criticize Taylor for refferring to the illegal mexican as an 'illegal.' The lawyer said that they prefer to be called undocumented. I have to think that this statement did as much to convince whites that the mexican invasion is a real danger as anything else said that evening.
2003-01-27 05:47 | User Profile
I have to think that this statement did as much to convince whites that the mexican invasion is a real danger as anything else said that evening.
That and Donahue's open rapture over the impending absorption of the White race. The scumbag really laid his (and the jew-led race traitor left's) cards on the table in that show, and I bet that plenty of Joe & Jane Six Packs were shocked to see it spelled out to them like that.
Good.
2003-01-27 13:58 | User Profile
Dear God in Heaven. Luckily I don't get MSNBC or I'da been shopping for a new Trinitron the day after this aired, having Garo Yepremian'd my current model.
But before I put on my lobster-bib and slide the butter-sauce closer to my plate....have any of the scheduled Donahue-ANGRY WHITE MALES been the sort inclined to name the Jew?
Uh huh. Didn't think so.
TAYLOR: Several of these 9/11 guys, they couldnââ¬â¢t even speak English. They had no means of support. If they did not have already a built-in network of Islamics, Arabs here, in which they could blend and not be noticed, theyââ¬â¢d have stuck out by sore thumbs! ààààDONAHUE: And then weââ¬â¢d have caught them! ààààMALZBERG: By the way... ààààTAYLOR: Of course, weââ¬â¢d have caught them! ààààDONAHUE: And so when they got off the plane, boom! We got ââ¬Ëem! The guys... àààà(CROSSTALK) ààààDONAHUE: Are you serious? Youââ¬â¢re saying... ààààTAYLOR: What do you mean? Look... ààààDONAHUE: Your point is what, that if we were all white, weââ¬â¢d be able to spot the people who are going to bomb us? Is that your points? ààààTAYLOR: Well, that would be rather obvious, wouldnââ¬â¢t it. ààààDONAHUE: You support this notion? ààààTAYLOR: How do you think-how do you think-do you think those guys could have got away with it in Japan? ààààDONAHUE: You want the-youââ¬â¢re proud of... ààààTAYLOR: Theyââ¬â¢d have stuck out like sore thumbs! ààààDONAHUE: You are proud of the Confederate flag, arenââ¬â¢t you**. **
Nice segue, Phil. Smooth; logical. Wait, I can't hear you; you've got something in your mouth. Pavlov's slippers.
TAYLOR: Until 1965, the United States had an immigration policy that was designed to keep the country majority white and exclusively black and white. If we... ààààDONAHUE: Oh, those were the good old days, werenââ¬â¢t they! ààààTAYLOR: If we had maintained such a policy... àààà(LAUGHTER) ààààTAYLOR: If we had maintained such a policy, there would be no large Muslim or Arab communities here, into which... ààààDONAHUE: Oh, and how much better weââ¬â¢d be! Is that your point? ààààTAYLOR: Weââ¬â¢d be much better off. ààààDONAHUE: How do you feel about interracial dating?****
If you stand close enough to Phil and stare really hard at the back of his head, I'm convinced you can actually hear the hamster making the wheel squeak.
JOSE PETIERRA, AMERICAN IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY: Phil, the basic premise that he advances, that this country is a white country, is a flawed premise. This country has never been white. It was never founded by simply white people. Itââ¬â¢s always been a multicolored tapestry. It was founded by yellow people, brown people, black people, all kinds of colored people. It hasnââ¬â¢t been a white country and it will never be a white country. If anything, if we all keep sleeping with each other, weââ¬â¢re probably going to end up all the same color. ààààDONAHUE: Thatââ¬â¢s a fact. Wonââ¬â¢t that be a great hallelujah day? **Now - then theyââ¬â¢ll have to figure out some other reason to hate you. To be afraid of you. **
Yeah. 300 million lettuce yankers - no lettuce to yank.
TAYLOR: If they were not here, if the United States were a homogeneous country, we wouldnââ¬â¢t have this affirmative action debate we are talking about. We wouldnââ¬â¢t have this bilingual education problem. We would have never had a race riot. ààààDONAHUE: And we would be the lesser for it, too. ****
If four drunk ex-con jungle animals don't overturn your car while you're stopped at a light.... can you even call what you're living "life"?
TAYLOR: Tell me this, Mr. Donahue. Can you name a single majority nonwhite neighborhood you would like to live in? A majority Mexican-a majority Mexican neighborhood would you like to live in? ààààOr can you name a single majority black or Hispanic school you would like your children to go to? Please. Just one. Just one. ààààDONAHUE: You have this notion. If youââ¬â¢re here to say that every neighborhood in which people of color live go to seed, you cannot support that assertion. ààààTAYLOR: Then name one would you like to live in. Just one. Just one.ààààààDONAHUE: I want to know more about this threat. Jobs especially, you think. ** **
C'mon, Phil, you're slipping! The correct answer is, "if I wanted to live in a majority black or Hispanic neighborhood, all I'd have to do is climb over the gate in the neighborhood I live in now."
> **DONAHUE: Is it your view that Arabs are getting in because, what, they blend in?
ààààTAYLOR: Well, itââ¬â¢s much, much easier for a terrorist from any country in the world, practically, to operate unnoticed in the United States because heââ¬â¢s already got many people who are like him already here. ààààDONAHUE: And if we had stayed all Irish... ààààTAYLOR: Look, if-no... ààààDONAHUE: ... then we would know who the terrorists were! àààà(LAUGHTER) ààààDONAHUE: Your point is what, that if we were all white, weââ¬â¢d be able to spot the people who are going to bomb us? Is that your points? ààààTAYLOR: Well, that would be rather obvious, wouldnââ¬â¢t it.**
Wait a minute. 2 and 2 are familia...they're irreplaceable children of God! They can't equal 4 just because of some racist law of mathematics!
> **DONAHUE: Hereââ¬â¢s from your fundraising letter.
àààà(CROSSTALK) ààààDONAHUE: Well, you know, you canââ¬â¢t back up from this. ààààTAYLOR: I havenââ¬â¢t backed off a single thing youââ¬â¢ve said. No truer words said. ààààDONAHUE: ââ¬ÅMore and more white are beginning to realize what is at stake. Youââ¬â¢re asking for money. ààààOver the year, as a guest on hundreds of radio call in programs.ââ¬Â ààààTAYLOR: Hundreds. ààààDONAHUE: Boy, those radio programs cannot wait to put you on. **
Nor can tireless fighters for diversity desperate to justify their salaries to their Semitic paymasters, eh Phil?
And a few choice solos from the Segovia of Stupid. Is it me or would any of the following make great t-shirts and/or bumper stickers? [I visualize them as word balloons hovering over the most vapid Pete-Rose-in-a-white-Beatle-wig file photo of Phil that can be dredged up, btw.]
"Abe Foxman called your magazine - ââ¬ÂAmerican Renaissanceââ¬Â- a white supremacist magazine. Thatââ¬â¢s true, isnââ¬â¢t it?"
"Why donââ¬â¢t you just say, take a Mexican to lunch. Have you ever done that?"
"Let them play with your grandchildren in the sandbox! Weââ¬â¢re all going to be better off."
"Thatââ¬â¢s why we have such a great city here called New York City. Where everybody gets along."
"If I, as a liberal, could somehow miraculously understand this, what is it that I would understand?"
"My goodness. The brown people are coming after us."
and my own favorite - which says it all, really -
"I donââ¬â¢t want this audience-yes? Please. Very little time. You had a one-liner?"
Taylor's fatal error here was in softening his message. If you're going to be demonized for the baby-formula version of your message, then givethemthe adult dosage. Taylor's silence after the caller who praised immigration - because her parents were from GERMANY & LITHOUANIA!!! - was inexcusable as it presented him with a [forgive me] tailor-made opportunity to correctly characterize his beliefs and speak to, and defend, WHITENESS. Instead he tucked his core ideology into his hip pocket and soft-soaped behind 'immigration'. For goodness sakes, people who don't themselves get aced out of low-skilled jobs by Mexicans are never ever going to give a damn about those who do...it's about preserving and protecting the white race * - who have brought the light of civilization into the world, and whose absence or negation would extinguish that light in an eyeblink*. I feel he consciously would not put his foot across that line here.
Waiting for 'reasonable', comfortable people to awaken isn't going to work. You got two options: violence or transcendence. We all know how violence works. Transcendence -lifting white men and women out of the mire of defeat and self-hatred our enemies work so diligently at guilting us into choosing to dwell in - means venerating, educating and reawakening the natural aristocracy in every white that we had no right to trade in for shiny trinkets and good intentions. It means reaching out and into the common man and reviving the uncommon man. Taylor had a real opportunity, particularly with that caller, to create a link in viewer's minds between Geo Washington and Mark Twain and Thoureau & Schiller, Goethe, Beethoven, von Clausewitz. He didn't do it. He stood by as a white European-American lumped her own forebears with grub-eating Somalis and parasite-ridden mestizos and never once reproached her, enlightened her, tried to inspire her. That's unforgiveable.
2003-01-27 14:35 | User Profile
Originally posted by il ragno@Jan 27 2003, 07:58 Transcendence - lifting white men and women out of the mire of defeat and self-hatred our enemies work so diligently at guilting us into choosing to dwell in - means venerating, educating and reawakening the natural aristocracy in every white that we had no right to trade in for shiny trinkets and good intentions. It means reaching out and into the common man and reviving the uncommon man.
Say it again and carve it in stone.