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Thread ID: 4543 | Posts: 3 | Started: 2003-01-20

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Malachi [OP]

2003-01-20 22:47 | User Profile

Lots of PCing and minimizing in this article the facts are that illegals and all the rest are feeding off the heartland American. Why is this forum only called Illegal Immigration????? I am worried about legal immigration turning us even more every day into a turdworld slum. [url=http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Jan/01202003/utah/21901.asp]Visa Helps Girl Get Dialysis [/url]

[color=red]Four years earlier, she and her 4-year-old brother had hidden in the back of a truck as it crossed from Mexico into California, bound for Utah, where their parents waited. While the reunited family found living wages and happiness in Salt Lake City, the crossing came at a price more and more undocumented immigrants are having to pay. People who enter the United States illegally cannot receive Medicaid, which in today's difficult economy has emerged as practically the only way for the poor to pay for expensive medical treatment. Were Ana in the country legally, she probably would have received Medicaid funding for the three-day-a-week dialysis she needed -- at $70,000 a year, nothing any low-income family could dream of affording. Her teachers need not have wondered at the end of each day if they would see her again.

A Caring Teacher: The place where the poor, the undocumented, illness and childhood intersect is Lincoln's Pamela J. Atkinson Clinic, which provides primary medical care to students and their often uninsured families. Principal Shannon Andersen says 90 percent of these families live under the poverty level. Eighty percent are minorities and 63 percent are Latino, about two-thirds of whom she estimates are in the United States illegally. The clinic also works with nonprofit groups and individual doctors to give secondary care for illness or injury. [/color]

read entire article for nausea


jeffersonian

2003-01-20 23:05 | User Profile

Malachi what is a bit heartening is seeing more and more objective articles like the below. Minimum PC'inc but attention to the costs to taxpayers. It's a start.

Original Article available at:[url=http://www.tcpalm.com/tcp/trib_editorials/article/0%2C1651%2CTCP_1111_1685546%2C00.html]FPTribune.com[/url]

Editorial: Health costs for immigrants need control The costs of health care for uninsured illegal immigrants are a major drain on public resources.

January 20, 2003

Health care for indigent patients is an ever-growing problem almost everywhere, especially in states with high numbers of legal and illegal immigrants. A popular destination for tourists, students, business people, refugees, and legal and illegal immigrants, Florida is fourth on the list of 12 states that get federal funds for emergency health services to undocumented immigrants.

Those funds don't begin to cover the cost of their care, but federal law mandates that everyone non-citizen, legal or illegal receive emergency care, and an unspecified amount of follow-up care. To cover unreimbursed costs (and costs not met by reimbursements through Medicaid), patients who have insurance pay higher premiums and, as just recently demonstrated in Indian River County, local taxpayers pay higher assessments to their local hospital district.

The costs are far from negligible. A just-released survey by the Florida Hospital Association of 28 hospitals, in big cities and smaller towns, found that hospital care in 2002 for 705 patients identified as uninsured non-citizens totaled $40.2 million. The full cost in the state is considerably higher, since not all hospitals participated in the survey.

Lamenting these problems is neither hard nor helpful. Their solution depends on a concerted effort of hospitals in Florida and throughout the nation to demand that Washington make changes in federal law and the federal budget to lessen the financial burden of this federally mandated care.

Among the changes the Florida Hospital Association recommends are:

Clarifying how much follow-up care a hospital must provide after stabilizing the patient.

Requiring that tourist visas be issued only if the applicants document their health status, assume financial responsibility for health care and agree to return home after they are stabilized.

Requiring other countries to accept medical transfers of their citizens.

Receive more resources, including improved cooperation from and among the INS, foreign embassies, immigration attorneys and patients' families. There is another imperative: Overcome the reluctance, as understandable as it may be, of the law and medical personnel to ask patients if they are non-citizens and, if so, whether they are legal or illegal. The mandated care will still be provided.

Illegal immigrants deterred from seeking medical care because they fear deportation will have to face that choice, just as more and more citizens have to face these facts: Health-care resources for all are limited, and unlimited hospital care is a cost of soaring illegal immigration that citizens, states and the nation are less and less able to pay.

Scripps Treasure Coast Newspapers


Faust

2003-01-21 02:36 | User Profile

**This girl's parents are scum!!!

They almost killed this child when they could have crossed over into Arizona or California to get her the treatment she needed or better yet go home to Mexico!**

A social worker explained that Ana's immigration status prevented her from qualifying for Medicaid. She was eligible for an emergency version of Medicaid, which covers life-threatening injury or illness, but not scheduled treatment such as dialysis. The social worker recommended that Ana go back to Mexico for treatment. But the family did not want to risk another border crossing and believed the Mexican treatment would be inferior. ...

The news of Ana's illness shocked her parents. They could have gone to New York or California, which have programs for undocumented immigrants with serious medical problems. But, as Arturo Manzano says, "We want to stay here. Our kids are growing up here. It would be tough to take them out of school, then try to put them back in."

I Hate Orrin Hatch!!! *Just before the holiday break, Payton called U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch's office. She was looking for a way to get Ana a humanitarian parole visa issued by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, what she believed was Ana's best shot at becoming eligible for treatment...

During the last week of school before Christmas, Payton accompanied Arturo, Ana Maria, Ana and Antonio Manzano to the INS office in Murray. Arturo Manzano says Payton's presence helped calm them as they sat down with the officials. In the end, the agency granted humanitarian parole to Ana, Arturo and Ana Maria Manzano for one year... That Saturday, Ana was resting in Primary Children's Hospital after her first dialysis session... Meanwhile, the Manzanos are settling into the rhythm of every-other-day dialysis for Ana. The treatment must continue until they can find a donor and funding for a kidney transplant, which probably would cost at least $70,000.*

A kidney that should have gone to an American will put in this child; funded by the American Taxpayer! It just sucks!!