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2003-01-17 01:34 | User Profile
Fairbanks City Council: Down with the Patriot Act!
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Fairbanks, AK City Council Bucks Patriot Act
Privacy By TOM MORAN, Staff Writer News-Miner 01/10/03
If critics of the USA Patriot Act are correct, the Fairbanks City Council may have spent more time pondering a resolution to express concern about the act Monday night than Congress spent in passing the act itself...
The Patriot Act, an antiterrorism measure that dramatically increases federal search and surveillance powers, quickly passed through Congress in October with little public debate. It has concerned a number of local citizens who believe some of its provisions, along with some other recent federal directives, infringe on constitutional rights.
"What powers they've taken on are frightening, and I can't stand by that happening," said Councilwoman Donna Gilbert, who introduced one of two council resolutions expressing concern about the implications of the act. "I think it's awful."
A number of local citizens concurred with Gilbert. Of 18 people to address the council on the subject Monday night, 17 were in favor of the resolutions.
Michael Welsh of Fairbanks called the act an "unprecedented, unjustifiable and unconstitutional extension of powers."
"It is a blueprint for an Orwellian police state," he said. "It deserves nothing less than your repudiation."
Despite the public response, Councilman Jeff Johnson said he wanted to hear from supporters of the act as well, and also said he was wary of condemning an act that none of them had read. The final draft of the Patriot Act was more than 400 pages long.
"Clearly, it's hard to vote on something that you're against, like this, if you've never read it," he said.
Others came out in support of the resolutions. Councilman Jerry Cleworth said he had misgivings about the motivation for the support of the resolutions, and about whether it was the council's place to take a political stand, but still said he supported the measures. "I speak in favor of it tonight," he said. "I don't see how you can't."
The council voted to postpone one of the two resolutions, proposed by Councilman Scott Kawasaki, until their next meeting, but a motion to also postpone Gilbert's resolution failed by a 3-2 vote. Johnson and Councilman Bob Boko voted yes, while Gilbert, Cleworth and Councilman Howard Thies voted no. Kawasaki was not present.
The council then voted to slightly amend the wording of Gilbert's proposed resolution, a motion that passed 4-1 with only Gilbert objecting. The amended resolution then passed unanimously.
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2003-01-17 01:52 | User Profile
Good news, but it doesn't surprise me, Faust.
When I lived in Fairbanks it was rampant with lesbo vegan granola types with hairy armpits and no makeup.
I wonder how this jibes with the military personnel garrisoned nearby at Ft. Wainwright and Eielson AFB.
2003-01-17 05:23 | User Profile
Originally posted by Centinel@Jan 17 2003, 01:52 **Good news, but it doesn't surprise me, Faust.
When I lived in Fairbanks it was rampant with lesbo vegan granola types with hairy armpits and no makeup.
I wonder how this jibes with the military personnel garrisoned nearby at Ft. Wainwright and Eielson AFB.**
That's interesting, but sort of jibes with what saw in Alaska. I saw about 4 pretty girls in the whole state when I was there.
Not especially promising, especially if the women who are there are lesbo's. But it might account for the way the girls I did see looked.
I doubt incidentally if all the woman in the Air Force look like the girl on Jag.
Alaska, of course, has the highest surplus of men to women in America, at least 20% last time I checked. You'd think a few smart women straight women would be up there looking for husbands. It's definitely no place for a single straight guy.
2003-01-17 05:52 | User Profile
Most of the attractive women around Fairbanks are wives of armed forces personnel. There are a few straight singles around Fairbanks, but for obvious reasons they can be picky. It seems in summertime the population of interior Alaska doubles, though.
Anchorage has no shortage of straight, single women. But Anchorage and southward on the Kenai peninsula has per capita more dykes, greens, granolas and hippies. Fairbanks people not in the military are often tied to oil, logistics and transportation...not exactly your "green" types, though there are plenty of them north of the Alaska range.
2003-01-17 06:56 | User Profile
Originally posted by Centinel@Jan 17 2003, 05:52 Most of the attractive women around Fairbanks are wives of armed forces personnel. There are a few straight singles around Fairbanks, but for obvious reasons they can be picky. It seems in summertime the population of interior Alaska doubles, though.
The only thing about this summertime influx in interior Alaska is that it seems to mostly speak Deutsch. Amerikaners need to bring their foreign language phrase dictionaries.
Fairbanks people not in the military are often tied to oil, logistics and transportation...not exactly your "green" types, though there are plenty of them north of the Alaska range.
May be a few hard core greenies, but also a lot of the sort of people to whom "good environmentalism" means a healthy trap line.
It certainly sounds like the recipe for a lot of contentious city council meetings like in Fairbanks.