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Zoroaster [OP]

2003-01-15 12:23 | User Profile

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For Wednesday, January 15, 2003


The Iraq Follies

President Bush seems to be hinting that he hopes someone will shoot Saddam Hussein or that Saddam will decide to retire. All things are possible, but Saddam isn't the retiring type, and he certainly did not reach age 65 in his job by being an easy target.

More than a decade ago, I wrote that the first George Bush had inadvertently provided Saddam with guaranteed protection against a coup. By making war on the Iraqi people and by so obviously being in the pocket of the Israelis, the United States assured that any Iraqi who tried to replace Saddam would be immediately branded an American-Zionist agent and ripped apart by the Iraqi people. Iraqis, who don't like Saddam, dislike the United States and Israeli governments even more.

If there is no chance of a replacement surviving in the top spot, there is no point in taking the enormous risk of trying to assassinate a man who is an expert in survival. Our current President Bush has continued the "protection" policy. Only a senior leader would have even a slim chance of getting close enough to Saddam to whack him, and our esteemed president has let it go public that Iraqi senior leaders will be tried as war criminals. All that piece of stupidity does is guarantee that the senior leadership will remain loyal to Saddam.

So it looks increasingly as if the president is going to have to go to war if he wants to eliminate Saddam Hussein. It looks as if he will have to go to war in the face of a United Nations inspections report that says no evidence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction can be found. That probably won't deter Bush, but it will create enormous and profound problems for the United States. We will be viewed by most of the world as a bully and a hypocrite of the first order.

It's clear by now that Bush isn't going to make public any evidence that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction because he doesn't have any. He claims to have provided the inspectors with the U.S. intelligence, but if so, having acted on it, they haven't found anything.

In the meantime, he might blunder us into a war with North Korea. While we can probably take Iraq with relatively few American casualties, there is no way under the sun to fight a Korean War II without very large American casualties. In the first place, within hours of the start of the war, the 37,000 Americans sitting there as a tripwire will be dead. I doubt the North Koreans will bother to take any prisoners this time. Already the neoconservatives are trying to downplay Korean strength by harping on how poor the country is. Well, they should remember their own rhetoric. North Korea is often described as the last Stalinist dictatorship on earth. So it is. Yet when Stalin was alive, the majority of the Soviet people were also poor, often starving, and he nevertheless produced an enormous military machine. Stalin had hundreds of divisions that German intelligence didn't know existed, and the Soviet Union turned out T-34 tanks by the tens of thousands. Never confuse general prosperity or the lack of it with military strength. Like a poor man with a .357-caliber Magnum, a country can be poor but well-armed, too.

America's relationship with Israel is behind this problem. North Korea, even with nuclear weapons, is no threat to the United States. The Israelis, however, are deathly afraid that North Korea will sell nuclear warheads and long-range missiles to Iran or other Israeli enemies. Don't take my word for it. Watch your cable news shows. The same pro-Israel, pro-war-with-Iraq crowd has already started yakking about how dangerous it would be if North Korea were allowed to export its weapons. Dangerous to whom? Well, they never say, but they obviously mean Israel, since the Israelis themselves have often voiced this fear in Israeli newspapers. Their "axis of evil" and our "axis of evil" are the same.

It's too bad the early Zionists didn't pick Kenya for their new colony instead of Palestine. The United States would have had a much easier time of it. Hopefully, though, one day Americans will get tired of pulling Israel's chestnuts out of the fires of its own making. Eliminating threats by making peace with its neighbors seems to be a low priority in Israel.


Ed Toner

2003-01-15 13:13 | User Profile

The following has been published in a few newspapers, and I sent it to Cong. C. Smith, 4th CD, NJ:

Bush is considering a plan to tap Iraq's oil and seizing revenues to pay for occupation, a Washington source says.

"It the oil is going to fund the U.S. military presence there," he said. "... They're not just going to take the Iraqi oil and use it for Iraq's purpose. They will charge the Iraqis for the U.S. cost of operating in Iraq.

Well, there goes the cherished, oft-repeated myth of kindly Uncle Sam who invades other countries not for land or treasure, but purely for Good of Humanity.

This Iraq situation is absolutely surreal. Here we have Pres. Bush, CIC, talking about declaring an aggressive war on a small third- world country, as if they're really some threat, while pretending that he's being forced into it.

What is even crazier is how many of the American people are going along with it. Have we seen any real evidence that Saddam had anything at all to do with the 9-11 attacks? None, that I have been able to find.

What about Osama bin Laden? Pres. Bush, the CIA, the media, and popular sentiment all demanded the capture or death of Osama bin Laden. Funny how Osama is down the memory hole after we didn't find a trace of him in the ruins of Afghanistan, and now Iraq is suddenly an urgent threat. And after Iraq, who next?

Israel and it's supporters in the USA are now saying that Iran is the real threat, and it must be "taken out". Haven't we heard this before? Isn't that why we armed Iraq to fight Iran, as we armed Osama and the Taliban to fight the USSR's United Front in Afghanistan?

Afghanistan is now governed by Pres. Bush's hand picked man, Hamid Karzi, an oil man like Pres. Bush and VP Cheney. Karzai represented Occidental Oil in a meeting with the Taliban in Houston, where an oil pipeleline was discussed, which the Taliban regected. Who will Pres. Bush select to rule the new government of Iraq? Perhaps someone who dissagrees with Hussein, who nationalized the oil industry?

I'm afraid this thing isn't going to be over for a very long time, unless the public wakes up and sees through it all..

For Publication,

Ed Toner 481B Jason Place Brick NJ 08724 732-840-4203 captained@comcast.net


DRSLICEIT

2003-01-15 15:43 | User Profile

Don't forget that Occidental Oil was controlled by the Russian Jew communist Armand Hammer who was the paymaster to Gore's father and also X VP Gores prime mentor. It really does not matter who the f*ck is our president as they are all goddamn corrupt.


eric von zipper

2003-01-15 16:16 | User Profile

Hammer was one of the great devious characters of the 20th century. The SOB was actually a pall bearer at Lenin's funeral. That's how in he was! And that's how old the SOB was when he died only a few years ago.

And what a lying prick he was!

In his autobiography he, the man who ended up owning the Czar's family's Fabrege egg collection, had the gall to say that he obtained the Czar's palace china while dining in Moscow right after the revolution. According to Hammer, he noticed that he was being served a meal on exquisite china and asked the owner where it came from. The owner threw his hands up and said that it came from the Romanovs and during the chaos he had come to get it for practicley nothing and that he would gladly exchange it for some sturdy commercial grade stuff since it was too fragile for restaurant use and was always breaking.

Hammer, if you can believe this fairy tail, then got the Czar's fabulous collection of china in exchange for restaurant grade crockery that he was able to import from outside Russia.

Of course, shortly before Hammer died the truth came out about him. He was a bag man for the communists and looted Russia of Czarist treasures, the best of which he kept for himself at absurdly low prices, and wholesaled the rest to private collectors in order to provide the Reds with hard cash.


w.bales

2003-01-16 11:30 | User Profile

Ed --

The polls lie and the federal media (including the faux news channel in a major way) lies. And, of course, we all know whose side the American federal government is on: Israel. I submit that the vast majority of American now realize Bush, et. al., are full of crap on this.

All of us need to write letters to the editor and even stand on a local main street corner with a poster for a few hours a week.

Surreal is right.

WB