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Thread ID: 4349 | Posts: 5 | Started: 2002-05-31
2002-05-31 00:55 | User Profile
Robert Welch: Whatever Else, Call Him "Correct"
by Mike Culbert Berkeley Daily Gazette Aug. 26, 1971
[click below for a timeless and devastating analysis of John Birch Society founder Robert Welch, published by the left-wing Berkeley Gazette. What is devastating is that the author admits that Robert Welch was correct and prescient, and damned-nearly prophetic, in his vision of the 20th and 21st centuries...]
[url=http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=539]http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=Ne...article&sid=539[/url]
And also see:
The John Birch Society -- Exposed! By John "Birdman" Bryant
url: [url=http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/NetLoss/NetLoss-Oliver.html]http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/NetLoss/Ne...oss-Oliver.html[/url]
2003-01-07 14:42 | User Profile
Robert Welch: Whatever Else, Call Him ââ¬ËCorrect'
by Mike Culbert Berkeley Daily Gazette Aug. 26, 1971
[click below for a timeless and devastating analysis of John Birch Society founder Robert Welch, published by the left-wing Berkeley Gazette. What is devastating is that the author admits that Robert Welch was correct and prescient, and damned-nearly prophetic, in his vision of the 20th and 21st centuries...]
[url=http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=539]http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=Ne...article&sid=539[/url]
2003-01-17 01:26 | User Profile
"When I Joined the John Birch Society..."
General News by "Wake Up" January 7, 2003
When I first joined the John Birch Society, a hundred years ago, I quickly learned to fear the possibility that national sovereignty would be replaced by a system that would merge all nations under the flag of the United Nations. One of the craziest things I was expected to believe was a prediction by the Societies founder, Robert Welch. He argued that the day would come when Communist troops would be welcomed into our land as peacekeepers.
I thought that was a stretch at the time and until recently continued to question this prophecy...
Now China controls both ends of the Panama Canal. They are allowed access to an old Naval base in Southern California. They bribed our last President, many elected representatives and received computer and missile technology in return. Communists are welcomed into and control the United Nations. China has Most Favored Nation status, according to our leaders.
Now those leaders suggest that Russia and the US will work together to fight terrorism even though Communist tyrants are the source of all the terrorism on the planet. We are planning to send troops to wipe out some fella named Saddam because he disobeyed the edicts of some Communist created and controlled outfit called the United Nations. If we disarm Iraq and all other nations that need disarming under orders from the United Nations, won't we be expected to disarm, too?
Marx's "Communist Manifesto" contains a list of ten steps or "planks" that conspirators might use to subvert any nation into a communist/socialist oligarchy. Now, it could be argued that seven out of ten of those planks are in place in our country; among those are: the graduated income tax, inheritance tax, a central bank (the Federal Reserve), mandatory gov't schools......... our Republic has become a democracy and is approaching a fascist dictatorship.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency trains local police, sheriffs and firemen to believe that the "Founding Fathers" were terrorists and that the greatest terrorist threat in the US is the unorganized militia. Fundamentalist Christians who believe in a second coming of Christ are put in the same category as Muslim fundamentalist who would crash planes into buildings. You and I are the terrorists.
"Conservative" leaders have allowed the ex-Governor of Texas to create what is becoming a dictatorship in the name of fighting terrorism. President Bush has done what President Clinton always wanted her husband to do. The "Patriot Act" and "Homeland Security" will neutralize our Constitution and do away with our Bill of Rights. And I always thought that those on the left were the enemies of freedom. At a time when all "able bodied men" should be cleaning their deer rifles in anticipation of further terrorist attacks, our own military is training foreign troops how to do door to door weapon sweeps in our neighborhoods. The National Guard and ROTC units are being trained how to maintain FEMA camps for those who resist the mandatory vaccine program. We will be disarmed as millions are allowed to walk across our borders, shoot our wives and rape our dogs.
Saturday morning cartoons and computer games present UN troops fighting "terrorist" militias in the US. Tonight, I watched one of those "Worlds Most ..........Cop" shows and saw two segments praising brutal Russian police in action. "Conservative" radio talk show hosts are praising the Patriot Act and Homeland Security. I read in the New American magazine tonight that the FBI is setting up an office in China.
Robert Welch has been accurate in every prediction and warning I am aware of. Now I can see that it is very possible that while our boys are doing the UN's dirty work all around the globe, our leaders will not be able to properly "protect" us from terrorists among us. UN Peacekeepers will be called in to help after the next staged attack. The militia and others will resist foreign troop efforts to disarm the population and all hell will break loose.
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2003-01-23 07:23 | User Profile
> Originally posted by toddbrendanfahey@Jan 6 2003, 19:58 ** Add to that question, amongst paleocon thinkers/writers, why aren't there mentioned JBS Prez John F. McManus mentioned more often (author of a dozen books, exposes, including the recent William F. Buckley: Pied Piper for the Establishment), or ex-Bircher Alan Stang, or ex-Bircher and genius researcher G. Edward Griffin (The Creature from Jekyll Island: Inside the Federal Reserve System and The Fearful Master: A Second Look at the United Nations)?
Strikes me as odd. ÃÂ & I see this everywhere: Justin Raimondo, like him or hate him, writes voluminously on paleocon philosophy, but he NEVER mentions TNA, the JBS or JBS (or ex-JBS) writers/philosophers/researchers. **
I believe that the JBS doesn't rank very high in the minds of many paleoconservatives because it 1) Focuses on conspiracy theories that stretch almost anybody's credibility and 2) because it doesn't deal with a number of issues important to the paleoconservative worldview.
As far as #1 is concerned, there is little reason to invoke the machinations of Bilderbergers, the Trilateral Commission, and CFR to account for what's going on in our foreign policy. There is no need for conspiracies or secret societies to explain our warped foreign policy because much of what goes on is conducted rather openly by the people in power with full public approval. Why conduct these affairs in secret when you have a mass population thoroughly and eagerly saturated with your agitprop? Some of the JBS's other obsessions make even less sense to me - many of them live in a time warp and are still fighting the Cold War as if Lenin and Trotsky were still in charge of Russia, while other Birchers have an odd fixation with the Freemason (in spite of the fact that the Founding Fathers they venerate were themselves Masons). These sorts of concerns and eccentricities just don't resonate with your average Old Rightist.
However, I believe that issue #2 is the more relevant one for most people here. Centinel has noted that the JBS avoids discussion of the US-Israel relationship in order to avoid charges of "anti-Semitism." Now, it is true that most paleoconservative publications avoid MacDonald-style discussion of the Jewish Question as a broader issue, but even the most mild and mainstream sources (Buchanan, McConnell, etc) aren't afraid to point out the cost of America's destructive alliance with Israel and the sinister machinations of the Israeli lobby.
Another issue that the JBS won't tackle is race. While Thomas Fleming's political correctness has lead to the supression of the race question at Chronicles, in the past this and other paleo publications have been strong on the subject, thanks mainly to the influence of Sam Francis. One of the main issues which separates paleoconservatives from the mainstream right is skepticism over the realizability (or desirability) of a "colorblind society" bandied by liberals and neos alike, as well as skepticism over the exportability of Western institutions to non-Western peoples.
[url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?act=ST&f=5&t=5239&hl=john%20birch%20society&st=20]TAC sells Out to Neocons)[/url] **
Some interesting discussions we've had over time on the JBS. Wonder if we've ever come up with something definite.
2003-02-01 05:28 | User Profile
Mr Faust re: Won't we disarm?
Look at the latest announcement by the UN. Irag and Iran will Host and coHost the UN disarmement committee. Irag will demand that the US disarm and that will end the talk of war. I never gave the UN much credit for anything since it is totally controlled by 'them' that want the OWGovt or the NWO, but now I have to credit the UN with a brilliant move. Don't you agree? With the US disarmed, the empirical aspirations of the CFR, the CIA and the Trilateralists will be over and the mideast can fight it out among themselves. Of course, oil may be more expensive but that will force the auto industry to comply with Dubya's plan for hydrogen vehicles. It all makes so much (non)sense! After the mideast is devastated with toxins and radiation and we do not rely upon its resources, we can begin to prosper by selling the refugees our abundance of wheat and other farm crops. It all makes so much sense!