← Autodidact Archive · Original Dissent · Ed Toner
Thread ID: 4219 | Posts: 52 | Started: 2002-12-28
2002-12-28 12:31 | User Profile
Several men have been trying to find out.
Anyone?
2002-12-28 17:25 | User Profile
This seems to happen periodically with VNN. I hope it's only technical. I gather they are undergoing some re-modelling with Bill White at the present time. Will check with overthrow.com.
2002-12-28 18:26 | User Profile
I've been told they're moving files & etc to a more secure system. White is involved and when the more is complete they'll have a better site and won't get hacked so often.
2002-12-28 18:52 | User Profile
I'm also a Stormfront Forum member. I never had a problem there. I clicked on the link, and got a "Not Authorized", submit name and code. Nothing is working. Anyone else?
2002-12-28 21:44 | User Profile
[url=http://www.regmeister.net/pearson/pearson.htm]http://www.regmeister.net/pearson/pearson.htm[/url]
VNN-lite, minus the all important RM & archives.
2002-12-29 03:35 | User Profile
I just tried VNN & got a re-direct, but I think it's been there before.
Maybe they actually got hacked again.
2002-12-29 14:30 | User Profile
I'm getting them now.
2002-12-30 09:28 | User Profile
Well, Ed, I checked and it looks like your valuable site is back up now.
And indeed, what would we do without this kind of valued prose:
Here's that universal nation the sniggering Jews have dunked you in, you foolish and cowardly white men who call us "nazis" and "barbarians": a bunch of negroes pawing your pregnant wife. This is where your jew-cowering has led you. YOU are guilty of this. YOU who refuse to name the jew CREATED this situation by doing nothing and blaming the men who DID do something. YOU are responsible, you cowards -- Canny Sammy Francis, Pauli Girl Roberts and all the rest of you ratshit con no-see-ums. Have no doubt: kahnmunist-kahnservative kahn man David Horowitz and the rest of the his hebrew klan friends ENJOY seeing White women molested by negroes and other refuse they've lumpened under the slogan "universal nation," while sniggering up their sleeves at our stupidity, knowing they have a racist bolthole in their pocket. Well, guess what, White man. You ain't got NOWHERE LEFT TO RUN. Wake the f*ck up, idiots. WHITE REVOLUTION IS THE ONLY SOLUTION. Itz all about culture, sniffle the dopes, dupes, dolts and deballed dullards. Uh, no my little friendz. Give up your insane alchemy. You can't make gold out of lead, and you can't make a White man out of a negro. NIGGERZ EXIST. As well try to make a human of a parmecium by putting quarters in itz dish, or giving it special tutors, or providing it with courts for midnight basketball. Here's your truth, White man: until you kill off these parasitic jew spirochevitz eating your spine, gut, and genitalz, nothing will change. NO JEWS. JUST RIGHT.
There you go. A free VNN promo, courtesy of Texas Dissident and Original Dissent.
2002-12-30 11:25 | User Profile
Texas Dissident,
With all due respect to those who post here as well as there, I think that VNN does serve a useful purpose. It appeals to certain folks that wouldn`t know how to act over here while still putting out a certain amount of good information. It is good that they have a place to go.
They can do it their way and we will do it our way.
2002-12-30 12:34 | User Profile
Tex - Do you have a link for that?
2002-12-30 18:06 | User Profile
Originally posted by Ed Toner@Dec 30 2002, 06:34 ** Tex - Do you have a link for that? **
Ed,
It was somewhere on the main page. I won't go any further than that.
Sorry, I'd usually give better information, but to go back and look for it would give that site another hit and I don't want to do that.
2002-12-30 18:18 | User Profile
Actually, it was VDare I noticed was not operation, at the top of this thread.
I searched VNN and found a bunch of Asian sites.
The NO JEWS JUST RIGHT bit tells me this is from a man I know locally.
2002-12-30 18:25 | User Profile
Originally posted by Sertorius@Dec 30 2002, 05:25 They can do it their way and we will do it our way.
Usually true, but not in this case.
One side doesn't get to incessantly direct insults and gross hyperbole at the other and not expect them to retaliate. Normally I don't address this kind of stuff, but no one else seems to want to and quite frankly, reading the quote above made me angry. And no, not angry at the fabled and omnipotent "Jew" in Howard LinderStern-land, mind you, but angry at the self-righteous preening and outrageous finger-pointing.
That's why I remain all-together unsure if that site is just a Jewish ruse as it is so ridiculous. Probably set-up just to collect IP addresses.
2002-12-30 18:32 | User Profile
I'll copy past the article, and send it to the man I suspect is the author.
He IS one of us, BTW, just more motivated to action, than an old fart of 71 like myself.
2002-12-30 22:44 | User Profile
Texas Dissident,
My meaning is this. He has a certain group of people he wishes to reach with his approach and we have a certain group that we are trying to inform with the approach that makes this board different from his.
2002-12-31 00:34 | User Profile
Fortune favors the bold.
I'm not gonna go into a longwinded defense of VNN here except to say that it's invaluable. It makes you laugh AND gets you angry [either at the world, the Jews, or Alex Linder] every day. It's a necessary vent for the pent-up rage of white people only too aware that they're being phased out in a bit of Planned Obsolescence that Zenith and Chevrolet could only dream of in the 60s, and an even more necessary one-stop info source for those just awakening.
Without VNN you'd have a lot more folks on FR haltingly articulating their unease with the present Administration and getting shitcanned by moderators before they even begin connecting the dots between our cultural malaise, impending demographic disaster, suicidal dreams of empire and the men behind the curtain.
VNN understands it all comes down, not to Left & Right, or Democrat & Republican, but whites and nonwhites. And it knows that despite a high-minded insistence on 'fairness', 'dignity', 'Christianity', 'reasoned discourse', etc, sooner or later - as the feral wolf nears the door - you're going to accept and embrace this reality, and of your own free will. Whether this is desirable or not is besides the point - when the roof caves in, you dig your way out or you die.
2002-12-31 02:59 | User Profile
It seems to be back.
2002-12-31 02:59 | User Profile
Originally posted by Texas Dissident@Dec 30 2002, 18:25 ** That's why I remain all-together unsure if that site is just a Jewish ruse as it is so ridiculous. Probably set-up just to collect IP addresses. **
Linder's a buffoon, but I think he's a genuine one. His style has too much spontenaity and feeling to be faked, although it is theoretically possible. It has been (foolishly and shamefully) done before.
At any rate, his petty rants (like the one you quoted above) grow tiresome after a while. Like every other cheap thrill on the web, he'll fade. Even if we put aside the more important issue of freedom of expression, on pragmatic grounds, he's hardly worth bothering with. The people harassing and hacking him would do better to just simply ignore him.
Best, P
2002-12-31 15:11 | User Profile
I think given its extemporaneous nature, the quality of writing on VNN is very solid, even colorful. Good between-the-eyes rhetoric is refreshing anywhere these days. There are slight dips into juvenility, but they're tolerable. Can't say the same for their artists, unfortunately.
2002-12-31 16:44 | User Profile
Wow, you're serious, and we know this because you used red font. Very persuasive.
Actually, I was invited to participate a long time ago by the Head Honcho here. So you'll have to take your little beef up with him, J-man.
Love and Kisses, P
2003-01-09 02:39 | User Profile
**http://www.regmeister.net/pearson/pearson.htm
VNN-lite, minus the all important RM & archives. **
I was under the impression that this page was merely hosting the VNN Headlines section while Lindersite was down.
Then I sat down and read the spintros.
While I'm sure "Chuck Pearson" has been, and may still be, a VNN spintro writer, he is not Linder - the subject matter and tone are similar, of course, but Pearson is a much sharper, funnier and more acerbic writer. He takes his thumb off the 'z' key long enough to compose some pretty awesome commentary.
WN-minded types who appreciate virtuoso prose are strongly recommended to visit the Chuck Pearson Archives at the Regmeister address above.
2003-01-09 17:07 | User Profile
[url=http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/jan03/cartoons117.htm]http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/jan03/c...cartoons117.htm[/url]
The funniest thing I've seen on VNN.
2003-01-09 17:30 | User Profile
Buster,
That is good!
2003-01-23 17:50 | User Profile
Originally posted by il ragno@Jan 8 2003, 20:39 ** > **http://www.regmeister.net/pearson/pearson.htm
VNN-lite, minus the all important RM & archives. **
I was under the impression that this page was merely hosting the VNN Headlines section while Lindersite was down.
Then I sat down and read the spintros.
While I'm sure "Chuck Pearson" has been, and may still be, a VNN spintro writer, he is not Linder - the subject matter and tone are similar, of course, but Pearson is a much sharper, funnier and more acerbic writer. He takes his thumb off the 'z' key long enough to compose some pretty awesome commentary.
WN-minded types who appreciate virtuoso prose are strongly recommended to visit the Chuck Pearson Archives at the Regmeister address above. **
Pearson updated today - after two weeks - in case any of you interested thought he had given up.
2003-01-23 18:59 | User Profile
Just read em. Pearson is unbelievable, King of the Spintro. He had to've been writing half of VNN's early blurbs when new visitors at the site would just explode in shocked laughter (before darting their head this way and that to make sure nobody'd heard).
Just classic stuff. Totally vicious, utterly unapologetic and cruelly hilarious.
2003-03-02 18:50 | User Profile
Just came across [url=http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv1ch06.html]Chapter VI: War Propaganda[/url] on the 'net and now understand what VNN is about. It's like a "how-to" manual for that site.
**All propaganda must be popular and its intellectual level must be adjusted to the most limited intelligence among those it is addressed to. Consequently, the greater the mass it is intended to reach, the lower its purely intellectual level will have to be. But if, as in propaganda for sticking out a war, the aim is to influence a whole people, we must avoid excessive intellectual demands on our public, and too much caution cannot be exerted in this direction. The more modest its intellectual ballast, the more exclusively it takes into consideration the emotions of the masses, the more effective it will be. And this is the best proof of the soundness or unsoundness of a propaganda campaign, and not success in pleasing a few scholars or young aesthetes. The art of propaganda lies in understanding the emotional ideas of the great masses and finding, through a psychologically correct form, the way to the attention and thence to the heart of the broad masses. The fact that our bright boys do not understand this merely shows how mentally lazy and conceited they are. Once we understand how necessary it is for propaganda to be adjusted to the broad mass, the following rule results: It is a mistake to make propaganda many-sided, like scientific instruction, for instance. The receptivity of the great masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in sloans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan. As soon as you sacrifice this slogan and try to be many-sided, the effect will piddle away, for the crowd can neither digest nor retain the material offered. In this way the result is weakened and in the end entirely cancelled out. Thus we see that propaganda must follow a simple line and correspondingly the basic tactics must be psychologically sound. **
2003-03-02 19:21 | User Profile
Herr Bush - " You're either with me or you're against me. "
Hmmmm.
2003-03-02 19:40 | User Profile
Originally posted by Texas Dissident@Mar 2 2003, 11:50 **Just came across [url=http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv1ch06.html]Chapter VI: War Propaganda[/url] on the 'net and now understand what VNN is about. It's like a "how-to" manual for that site. **
Has worked for the zhids, hasn't it?
2003-03-03 03:26 | User Profile
I guess I just don't understand the angst Alex's site seems to cause among OD members... I go by his site very couple 'a days, because he has links to things I NEED to read. I find his ranting and hysteria mildly annoying, but I mostly just skim it. If I want to have an INTELLIGENT conversation, I come here. But I find his links useful, and thus find HIM useful, if mildly annoying.
Why do people here have such strong feelings about him? I mean, no one is FORCING you to go to his site, and he is not doing damage to 'our' causes any more than other strident sites -- and he IS a place for angry people to go and find OTHER angry people to reinforce them in their anger, and then leads them to do the reading that fills in the causes for their angers!
Is it jealousy? Disdain? What is it makes y'all get all wrapped up about VNN? I mean, go if you like, don't if you don't? Where's the problem?
2003-03-03 03:37 | User Profile
It ain't r-e-s-p-e-c-t-a-b-l-e. :o
"Who ever saw a dirty soldier with a medal?" ~ General George S. Patton, Jr.
2003-03-03 04:13 | User Profile
Originally posted by Avalanche@Mar 3 2003, 03:26 ** Is it jealousy? Disdain? What is it makes y'all get all wrapped up about VNN? **
Not jealousy. VNN really does put some useful information up. Heck, the leftist Pacifica Radio put some good stuff up too.
It's just that some of us are suspicious of "opposition" sites, magazines and radio networks that seem to have more funds than followers. Pacifica got cash from the CIA.
VNN is in-your-face white and most white people aren't so there's bound to be suspicion. Not obsession, just suspicion.
2003-03-03 07:38 | User Profile
Avalanche,
I guess I just don't understand the angst Alex's site seems to cause among OD members...
How could that be? It has only been explained by Texas Dissident and in the case of myself, three times at various times. You saw what was removed. What could be clearer than that of what we require here.
I go by his site very couple 'a days, because he has links to things I NEED to read. I find his ranting and hysteria mildly annoying, but I mostly just skim it.
Good. That is your business. I personally couldn`t care less whether you or anyone else goes there. I only care when I see trashy and threatening comments posted that makes everyone here look like ignorant fools or worse.
If I want to have an INTELLIGENT conversation, I come here.
That is the idea here. VNN has certain people that they wish to reach as we do as well.
Is it jealousy? Disdain? What is it makes y'all get all wrapped up about VNN? I mean, go if you like, don't if you don't? Where's the problem?
Not hardly.
There are people here who post on both boards that understand that this isnt VNN and can conduct themselves in an intelligent manner. It is the boors that we dont care for.
I would submit that if anyone is "wrapped up about VNN," it is you. I suggest to re-read the thread you posted to me and the one by Texas Dissident about posting rules. I`d also suggest you re-read what Wintermute and Ragnar have written as well on this subject, particularly what Wintermute wrote above.
2003-03-03 14:07 | User Profile
No wait, Sert. I'm not saying we should allow VNN (or VNN-style stuff) here. I'm saying, why all this vitriol HERE about what he does THERE...
Who, here, CARES what he says on HIS site? It's his site, he can do what he will, just as this is our/your site, and you set very good and appreciated rules for here...
I'm just surprised there is a reservoir of negative feelings about what he does at his site... {shrug} Does it affect us here? (And obviously, some people think it does because he is 'tainting' our causes for people who are just discovering this stuff.) I don't see it, but okay, if others do...
2003-03-03 14:30 | User Profile
Sorry, Sert, but I'm with Avalanche. This thread was six weeks dead... when Tex decided to reopen it with a long excerpt not from VNN for the purpose of tarring VNN.
What was that definition of chutzpah again - the man who cries "Help!Help!", as he's punching you in the face?
2003-03-03 15:18 | User Profile
I don't see how Tex's post was tarring VNN. Alex Linder has stated time and time again his goals are quite simple and that he wishes to reach as large a base as possible. There are only two rules over at VNN:
Even rule number one can take a back seat if rule number two is adhered to with sufficient zeal. VNN's message is simple, easy to follow and repeatedly hammered home.
If anything the article could be viewed as an insult to OD posters struggling under the delusion that their erudite musings could somehow be of interest, or even accessible, to Mr. Joe Sixpack.
The art of propaganda lies in understanding the emotional ideas of the great masses and finding, through a psychologically correct form, the way to the attention and thence to the heart of the broad masses. The fact that our bright boys do not understand this merely shows how mentally lazy and conceited they are.
2003-03-03 15:35 | User Profile
If anything the article could be viewed as an insult to OD posters struggling under the delusion that their erudite musings could somehow be of interest, or even accessible, to Mr. Joe Sixpack.
Unquestionably true. Without bloodshed, nothing changes. Then again, if a ZOGBOT calls for violence and murder, he gets a standing O [see the PATRIOT CELEBRITIES thread]. If you or I do it, we get a 6am visit by the Feds [see the PATRIOT ACT].
2003-03-03 16:57 | User Profile
Originally posted by il ragno@Mar 3 2003, 09:35 Then again, if a ZOGBOT calls for violence and murder, he gets a standing O [see the PATRIOT CELEBRITIES thread]. If you or I do it, we get a 6am visit by the Feds [see the PATRIOT ACT].
Politics is a dirty game and unfortunately they have the dirtiest players :( Actually a recent thread here prompted me to finally take a look around FreeRepublic to see what all the fuss was about, barfingly big mistake. I thought I was racist but how wrong I was. I have nothing on those guys.
We Nationalists/Conservatives need to make "attack first, never apologize" our maxim.
2003-03-03 18:13 | User Profile
Originally posted by il ragno@Mar 3 2003, 08:30 Sorry, Sert, but I'm with Avalanche. This thread was six weeks dead... when Tex decided to reopen it with a long excerpt not from VNN for the purpose of tarring **VNN. **
Huh? :blink:
Let's not be too touchy, IR (and thanks na Gaeil is gile).
For the record, (and I wonder why I always have to spell out everything I ever say or do related to VNN, why is that?), I randomly came across the article I linked to above while surfing around completely unrelated to anything we do here. When I read it I immediately thought of VNN and the overwhelming parallels between the two. That's it. I made no moral judgement here this time. I thought our members here could benefit from the linkage and background.
Perhaps I need a disclaimer where applicable: Posted for edification purposes only. No knee-jerking required or needed. :)
2003-03-03 18:29 | User Profile
Me, I liked the old VNN site design better. The deep blue and rich red of the VNN banner, the soft yellow background for the spintros... ahhh, what a sight for sore eyes. The graphics were pretty cool, too (though the cartoons have always been pretty crude). The new VNN has some technological advances (searchable letters, etc.) and may, though I don't know, be more hack-proof. I don't like the red-and-white color scheme as much, and what's with the little polka-dots all over the banner? Victor Wolzek's terror timeline is now a Tylenol-looking capsule instead of a jagged graphic. Who's terrorized by a Tylenol?
2003-03-03 18:46 | User Profile
Don't be silly. The 'propaganda' quote you cited is perfectly applicable towards what the Zionist War Machine is grinding out, day after day. The end result, if successful, is that many people will die. Not decades from now in some as-yet-imaginary Day Of The Rope but tomorrow, or next week, or next month. They can't WAIT for the bombs to start falling and the dead to start piling up.
Oh and by the way: they're running things now. If they chose to nuke Iraq (or whomever, so long asthe target had no nukes to hit back with) tomorrow morning, there's not a blessed thing that all of us massed together could DO about it. Whether "patriots" or "Nazis".
But instead of drawing that glaringly-obvious analogy between the text you quoted and ZOG, you drew one instead to a cantankerous website that says rude things about Jews (which happen to be mostly TRUE, as you well know)....whose massed readership has the capability of killing a relative handful of people AT MOST, and who would all be rounded up in short order afterwards ANYWAY. And who, to date, have killed no one, displaced no indiginous populations, detained no one for questioning, deported no unpopular thinkers, passed no legislation curtailing civil liberties and exert no media pressure. WHATSOEVER.
So you'll forgive me if it seemed like you were taking a jab at Linder out of the clear blue.
2003-03-03 18:52 | User Profile
So you'll forgive me if it seemed like you were taking a jab at Linder out of the clear blue.
It's a jab at Linder only if we believe that the method propounded by Hitler is ineffective. Is it?
That's the relevant issue.
And, I would add, your reference to "what the Zionist War Machine is grinding out, day after day" -- along with the evident success of such propaganda -- tends to support the core of Hitler's analysis. Once more -- when we consider Freud, Bernays, et al. -- we see the mirror-image phenomenon so brilliantly identified by MacDonald. However, as proven by those who have effectuated Gramsci's "long march through the institutions", high-brow writing is also necessary to influence the elites. Nazism ultimately became a "top-down" phenomenon, notwithstanding its more humble origins. The educated elite whose job it was to mobilize the masses must have been educated somehow.
2003-03-03 19:07 | User Profile
IR, I thought the material at the link would be helpful in a greater understanding of the bigger "what is it all about" picture. Now it's no secret what my opinion is of VNN, which is the same as their opinion of my beliefs. But again, my purpose was not to take a shot at them here, rather the link enlightened me somewhat and I thought others might benefit as well. That's all I have to say.
2003-03-03 19:09 | User Profile
Originally posted by il ragno@Mar 3 2003, 12:46 So you'll forgive me if it seemed like you were taking a jab at Linder out of the clear blue.
It's a Christian's duty to forgive. No se preocupe, amigo.
;)
2003-03-03 22:18 | User Profile
Now, I'm not going to post a link or quote to this, because I know most of you are going to recall : One of Dr. Pierce's major fears was that the Movement would be usurped by the base elements of White Pride. I don't think there's any question that VNN is an example of this. Wintermute, I laughed my butt off on what you said [QUOTE]If we are to have bald members, let them be the kind who lost their hair the old fashioned way.
2003-03-03 23:12 | User Profile
**One of Dr. Pierce's major fears was that the Movement would be usurped by the base elements of White Pride. I don't think there's any question that VNN is an example of this. **
But a better example is Resistance Records, the skinhead music label Pierce bought (or was talked into buying by others).
Any you guys ever heard a typical skinhead band? Like insects fornicating, only magnified 10, 000 times. Makes me nostalgic for the Hitler Youth, and I was born two decades after WW2.
VNN is currently running a series of Mencken reprints, as well as their usual invaluable news links from around the globe. So far,nobody is hawking memberships, although you can buy a "F**K ISRAEL" shirt if you've a mind to.
The NA is selling records called "Judeobeast Assassination", their website displays a runic carving predating Christianity over a banner that says "This is our symbol", and the organization is splintering fast with every departing inner-sanctum member glomming diskette copies of the membership info and mailing list on their way out the door. The odds are even money that the Feds will soon have a copy of their own, if they don't already. And even if all that weren't the case, you're still talking about sending money to, and taking orders from, a virtual commune on a West Virginia mountaintop.
So who's actually "baser"?
The plain fact is what the NA has been trying to do for 30 years - get their message out there and make it attractive - VNN has surpassed in 3...and without the masonic handshakes, monthly dues and oaths of omerta. Linder won't say it outright but it's true. The NA was always "too good" to use the WWW intelligently, and for all their disdain of the base elements - they're now overrun with them. Sorry, but that's reality.
2003-03-03 23:39 | User Profile
You're right, and that's absolutely true, IR. But remember that Pierce started to fund Resistance Records late in his life, and had no input to any of the rag-tag neo-nazi bands which say whatever they want o, in the basest of terms... they will not get gigs anywhere noticeable in the US.. and they lack talent. If they truly had talent, they would be the new Wagner.. these 3-chord strumming apes and the financial support which Dr. Pierce gave them is only an example of his desperation in his latter days. In this respect, he failed. But in the most important, he won. Resistance records is something the band members will be ashamed to play for their grandchildren.
2003-03-04 00:15 | User Profile
I want to add that Pierce himself was an important and charismatic writer & communicator whom I have great respect for.
But you cannot be a leader/organizer of a mass movement while being an elitist with an aloof personal style....which he was. Pierce, I took seriously; the NA, I never could.
2003-03-04 19:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Pierce, I took seriously; the NA, I never could.
that just about sums it up for me also.
2003-03-04 20:16 | User Profile
Originally posted by il ragno@Mar 3 2003, 18:15 **I want to add that Pierce himself was an important and charismatic writer & communicator whom I have great respect for.
But you cannot be a leader/organizer of a mass movement while being an elitist with an aloof personal style....which he was. Pierce, I took seriously; the NA, I never could.**
I take the NA seriously precisely for the point you stated--its educational value.
As for politics, the anti-war movenment is the only thing in this country that I would describe as serious. That will probably remain the case until some part of the country develops a viable secessionist campaign, if ever.
As for conventional party politics, I place much more hope in Europe, where countries are smaller and grass roots politics can be effective in a short time. Battles between Jews and Gentiles are more a part of European history as well.
2003-03-05 10:48 | User Profile
There is an interesting post over at Polinco which touches on some of the points raised here. VNNer versus EuroNationalist, harsh words fly :)
"Of course the whole matter of electoral politics overlooks that fact that American nationalism has been stunningly unsuccessful in forming groups that effectively promote nationalism as an ideologically valid concept, fostering any sort of long term public activism or even having a simple tabloid newspaper achieve a decent circulation. Instead, they promote a simple, idealized nostalgia for the NSDAP regime, the Antebellum South or the 1950s without consideration of how to present a viable and timely racial alternative to people that are not racial conscious. Naturally, the wildly visceral attacks on all forms of Christianity and self indulgent absolutism that is the rule in racial circles in the states guarantees that they will remain marginalized. Most importantly, Tim K fails to realize that the reason populists and nationalists have popular support is because they actually have a viable ideology, policy prescriptions that flow from it and the sense to know that public perception matters. American groups seem content to point out the problems of multi-racialism, often in the most inflammatory way possible, while hoping for some ill defined societal collapse followed by some massive genocidal campaign and a hazy utopian regime arising from it all. Such rhetoric has and always will play into the hands of our enemies and convince our lansmen that nationalism is nothing more then the psychotic freakishness the media says it is."
[url=http://www.polinco.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1363]Entire thread[/url]
2003-03-07 22:27 | User Profile
Originally posted by na Gaeil is gile@Mar 5 2003, 04:48 ** American groups seem content to point out the problems of multi-racialism, often in the most inflammatory way possible, while hoping for some ill defined societal collapse followed by some massive genocidal campaign and a hazy utopian regime arising from it all. **
Yeah. But that's a start. VNN isn't a political party or a government body, it's a website. People read it and think about what's being said. VNN flops the whole bloody carcass onto the table, maggots and everything. Maxing out the possibilities provides breathing room. Forcing yourself to confront the whole matzoh ball is a fine mental exercise, especially in a world that has trained us to walk on multiracial eggshells every waking minute of our lives. Common sense will shake out. I was reading an e-mail exchange of mine from a few years ago on the topic of the black/White IQ difference. "OK," I acknowledged weakly. "So maybe this is true. But maybe we should just keep quiet about it? I mean, we could really hurt black feelings." I had to laugh. But that illustrates the value of VNN. It's truly free. You can't say the "n" word on OD, but n's themselves run rampant in Amercia, raping, robbing and menacing. Anybody see an unhealthy imbalance there? Sure, if I magically appeared on TV for a one-minute extemp on my racial views, I wouldn't say "n." But different forums accomplish different things and VNN accomplishes a lot.
2003-03-13 17:40 | User Profile
I think we're in basic agreement, silent cold one. For your interest, here's Linder on slurs, as quoted in the new National Vanguard:
"It is the grossest and stupidest mistake to get bogged down in debating what is good taste and what isn't and quibbling over standards. That's like asking the guy next to you in a bucket brigade for his resume before you'll pass on the bucket of water. The White house is on fire, and we need to get our buckets in order pronto, and anybody who understands that and is willing to help is on our side."