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Thread ID: 4205 | Posts: 13 | Started: 2002-12-26
2002-12-26 23:08 | User Profile
Church of the Creator in Wyoming.
Tolerant Laissez-faire Wyoming "Community" Opposes Racist Group - (forum)
RIVERTON, Wyo. -- The people of Riverton abruptly dropped their typically Wyoming you-do-your-thing-I'll-do-mine philosophy two weeks ago when a "white supremacist" organization announced plans to move its world headquarters here from Illinois. The "community" was outraged. An unprecedented number of letters poured in to local newspapers, and talk radio shows were flooded with calls about the World Church of the Creator.
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2002-12-27 00:38 | User Profile
I am pro-white but I wouldn't want those weirdos near me either. They are a fringe element who believes that the white race is god and that a supernatural world, including God doesn't exist. After blacks and other non-white races, the next group that they focus their hate on is Christians. They have some of the worst anti-Christian material on their site that I have ever read.
2002-12-27 02:34 | User Profile
Originally posted by skemper@Dec 27 2002, 00:38 ** After blacks and other non-white races, the next group that they focus their hate on is Christians. They have some of the worst anti-Christian material on their site that I have ever read. **
There are many White nationalist sites that espouse criticisms of Christians and Christianity, from the subtle to the extreme. This can get under my skin very severly because I am a Christian. I think that these people are too led by what the Christians do via the press that gives them ultimate judgements of who they are. I am reminded of good men like Michael Hoffman II and Joe Sobran who are both Christian, and yet are very aware of what is going on in modern Christianity. We are not all Christian "sheeple" who believe in the ideology that "'racism' makes God cry" or that we must go by the "Judeo-Christian tradition". It is very easy for the misinformed to pass judgement on people, particularly those who would reside in their own boat. I believe that as long as "Christian-bashing" continues in White nationalism, it (White nationalism) will never get off the ground.
2002-12-27 03:08 | User Profile
A black family living in the middle of a KKK trailor park is far safer than a white family living in the middle of a black taxpayer provided housing project.
2002-12-27 03:54 | User Profile
skemper,
I am not a fan of the W.C.O.T.C. But if a group of Aliens, Sodomites, Blacks or for that matter almost any other kind of group moved into town. Anyone who spok out would be called "Racists" And press would be attacking the townspeople.
Robbie,
A good point, Even Wagner who many Neo-Heathans like was a Christian. But most churches are hopelessly Marxist.
Happy Hacker,
I saw a story on a Black who lived in an all white housing project, that had many Klan suporters in it, He moved away after a bit time. He them moved it to a Black housing project and mudred the first night there by a Black Teenager.
2002-12-27 14:25 | User Profile
WCOTC doesn't need a 'world hq'. No organization in the world of modern communications does.
They ought to operate out of Doolittle's old airfield- 'at Shangri-La'....
2002-12-27 17:50 | User Profile
Faust, You are right. Look at the Somalis in Maine. the whole liberal establishment is seeking to defend them despite the Mayor complaining that they are a drain to the welfare system and the resources of the town. Still, the WCotc are the Tailiban in white nationalism.
Robbie,
I have noticed this bias in WN sites. Either they are against Christianity because of its Jewish origins or they rewrite the scriptures, calling it Christian Identity, making Jesus a white man, despite the pains the scirptures go to show that he was Jewish. Many believe that it was a Jewish plot to hijack the Roman Empire and that Paul was a Jewish agent!But if you are a pagan, WCOTC, or atheist, then you are welcome. This trend toward Judeo-Christianity started approximately in the mid 19th century and accelerated with the publisning of the Scofield Bible and its emphasis on dispensational theology, which most of these Judeo-christians believe. And Faust is correct in that most of the major demoninations are Marxist, especially the Methodists, and Presbyterian USA . I would not even call the Unitarian Universalist a Christian church, since you don't have to be a Chrisitan to join. The Baptists, who are a mixture of Liberals and conservatives, depending on the individual churches, mostly hold on to this dispensational theology and seem to know of no other alternatives. But for the most part, the Chrisitan Church throughout history was anti-Jew.
Faust,
Was Wagner really a Christian? I thought he wasn't because he was a serial adulterer and that he wrote The Ring, a celebration of Gemanic mythology.
2002-12-27 21:18 | User Profile
skemper,
Was Wagner really a Christian? I thought he wasn't because he was a serial adulterer and that he wrote The Ring, a celebration of Gemanic mythology.
He also wrote a good number of Christian Plays. Most well known being "Parsifal."
"Parsifal" is said to have caused Wanger-Nietzsche break, because Nietzsche hated the Christianity of Parsifal. And because of the Chastity of Parsifal. Nietzsche hated it because of these two things.
Here are some thread on "Parsifal" from this Forum
The Nazi's Ban on Parsifal 1939 [url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=3710&hl=wagner]http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php...=3710&hl=wagner[/url]
PARSIFAL-"A Musical Sacred Stage Play" [url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=596&hl=wagner]http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php...t=596&hl=wagner[/url]
2002-12-28 03:05 | User Profile
Current93,
Very True!
2002-12-30 15:39 | User Profile
Originally posted by Current93@Dec 27 2002, 19:36 ** Look at Christmas today it is a commercial holiday, granted the CDs made it so but look at all the Christian lemmings madly following their Talmudic Bosses. **
I dont think Christmas was ever a big religious holiday in Protestant religions. I believe that at one time (pre 1900) Methodists did not even really celebrate the day. The holiday was more one of the Roman Church. The very date of Christmas is often attacked as being set to coincide with the solstice festivals of sun worshipers.
Easter should always be the focal point of Christianity. It was the commercialization that made Christmas such a big day in the Protestant world. To return to our Protestant roots we need to deemphasize Christmas altogether.
2002-12-30 17:49 | User Profile
Originally posted by Current93@Dec 27 2002, 18:36 ** The Christian majority allowed the Culture Distorters to occupy America and transform it into Amerika a satellite of Tel Aviv. **
one might say it was the union-ites who betrayed their own race by voting DEM every election - that "allowed" Tel Aviv to reside here, not Pastor Jones
Robbie: excellent post. Well stated. I totally agree.
Hacker: I grew up in an exclusive area of your former city (called L.Q.). 1 black family in 300. Get this: in 1994, the daughter shoots the dad and claims sex abuse. THE ONLY BLACK FAMILY in this area moves out.
-Jay
2002-12-30 18:39 | User Profile
Originally posted by skemper@Dec 27 2002, 17:50 ** Still, the WCotc are the Tailiban in white nationalism.
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My beef is the attention these marginal types get. The WCoTC has what? A dozen members?
We're talking about a "group" with a card table, a postal box and a website. Their move to Wyoming made national news. Since there is no legal or acceptable method for Americans of European lineage to organize, a lunatic fringe is inevitable. Ask yourself why the AP and CNN cares so much about so little.
They attack our fringes to control our center.
2002-12-30 21:57 | User Profile
The Jewish media loves these kinds of groups as they then can use them as an example of White extremism. Since the news of this group gong to Maine, they have rallied the support of all the lemmings to do a counter demo in hopes of inflaming a non-event.