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2002-12-21 05:28 | User Profile
Let Africa Sink
Kim du Toit May 26, 2002
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When it comes to any analysis of the problems facing Africa, Western society, and particularly people from the United States, encounter a logical disconnect that makes clear analysis impossible. That disconnect is the way life is regarded in the West (it's precious, must be protected at all costs etc.), compared to the way life, and death, are regarded in Africa. Let me try to quantify this statement.
In Africa, life is cheap. There are so many ways to die in Africa that death is far more commonplace than in the West. You can die from so many things--snakebite, insect bite, wild animal attack, disease, starvation, food poisoning... the list goes on and on. At one time, crocodiles accounted for more deaths in sub-Saharan Africa than gunfire, for example. Now add the usual human tragedy (murder, assault, warfare and the rest), and you can begin to understand why the life expectancy for an African is low--in fact, horrifyingly low, if you remove White Africans from the statistics (they tend to be more urbanized, and more Western in behavior and outlook). Finally, if you add the horrifying spread of AIDS into the equation, anyone born in sub-Saharan Africa this century will be lucky to reach age forty.
I lived in Africa for over thirty years. Growing up there, I was infused with several African traits--traits which are not common in Western civilization. The almost-casual attitude towards death was one. (Another is a morbid fear of snakes.)
So because of my African background, I am seldom moved at the sight of death, unless it's accidental, or it affects someone close to me. (Death which strikes at strangers, of course, is mostly ignored.) Of my circle of about eighteen or so friends with whom I grew up, and whom I would consider "close", only about ten survive today--and not one of the survivors is over the age of fifty.
Two friends died from stepping on landmines while on Army duty in Namibia. Three died in horrific car accidents (and lest one thinks that this is not confined to Africa, one was caused by a kudu flying through a windshield and impaling the guy through the chest with its hoof--not your everyday traffic accident in, say, Florida). One was bitten by a snake, and died from heart failure. Another also died of heart failure, but he was a hopeless drunkard. Two were shot by muggers. The last went out on his surfboard one day and was never seen again (did I mention that sharks are plentiful off the African coasts and in the major rivers?). My situation is not uncommon in South Africa--and north of the Limpopo River (the border with Zimbabwe), I suspect that others would show worse statistics.
The death toll wasn't just confined to my friends. When I was still living in Johannesburg, the newspaper carried daily stories of people mauled by lions, or attacked by rival tribesmen, or dying from some unspeakable disease (and this was pre-AIDS Africa too) and in general, succumbing to some of Africa's many answers to the population explosion. Add to that the normal death toll from rampant crime, illness, poverty, flood, famine, traffic, and the police, and you'll begin to get the idea.
My favorite African story actually happened after I left the country. An American executive took a job over there, and on his very first day, the newspaper headlines read: "Three Headless Bodies Found".
The next day: "Three Heads Found".
The third day: "Heads Don't Match Bodies".
You can't make this stuff up.
As a result, death is treated more casually by Africans than by Westerners. I, and I suspect most Africans, am completely inured to reports of African suffering, for whatever cause. Drought causes crops to fail, thousands face starvation? Yup, that happened many times while I was growing up. Inter-tribal rivalry and warfare causes wholesale slaughter? Yep, been happening there for millennia, long before Whitey got there. Governments becoming rich and corrupt while their populations starved? Not more than nine or ten of those. In my lifetime, the following tragedies have occurred, causing untold millions of deaths: famine in Biafra, genocide in Rwanda, civil war in Angola, floods in South Africa, famine in Somalia, civil war in Sudan, famine in Ethiopia, floods in Mozambique, wholesale slaughter in Uganda, and tribal warfare in every single country. There are others, but you get the point.
Yes, all this was also true in Europe--maybe a thousand years ago. But not any more. And Europe doesn't teem with crocodiles, ultra-venomous snakes and so on.
The Dutch controlled the floods. All of Europe controls famine--it's non-existent now. Apart from a couple of examples of massive, state-sponsored slaughter (Nazi Germany, Communist Russia), Europe since 1700 doesn't even begin to compare to Africa today. Casual slaughter is another thing altogether--rare in Europe, common in Africa.
More to the point, the West has evolved into a society with a stable system of government, which follows the rule of law, and has respect for the rights and life of the individual--none of which is true in Africa.
Among old Africa hands, we have a saying, usually accompanied by a shrug: "Africa wins again." This is usually said after an incident such as: [list] []a beloved missionary is butchered by his congregation, for no apparent reason []a tribal chief prefers to let his tribe starve to death rather than accepting food from the Red Cross (would mean he wasn't all-powerful, you see) []an entire nation starves to death, while its ruler accumulates wealth in foreign banks []a new government comes into power, promising democracy, free elections etc., provided that the freedom doesn't extend to the other tribe []the other tribe comes to power in a bloody coup, then promptly sets about slaughtering the first tribe []etc, etc, etc, ad nauseam, ad infinitum.[/list] The prognosis is bleak, because none of this mayhem shows any sign of ending. The conclusions are equally bleak, because, quite frankly, there is no answer to Africa's problems, no solution that hasn't been tried before, and failed.
Just go to the CIA World Fact Book, pick any of the African countries (Kenya, Tanzania, Zambia, Malawi etc.), and compare the statistics to any Western country (eg. Portugal, Italy, Spain, Ireland). The disparities are appalling--and it's going to get worse, not better. It has certainly got worse since 1960, when most African countries achieved independence. We, and by this I mean the West, have tried many ways to help Africa. All such attempts have failed.
Charity is no answer. Money simply gets appropriated by the first, or second, or third person to touch it (17 countries saw a decline in real per capita GNP between 1970 and 1999, despite receiving well over $100 billion in World Bank assistance).
Food isn't distributed. This happens either because there is no transportation infrastructure (bad), or the local leader deliberately withholds the supplies to starve people into submission (worse).
Materiel is broken, stolen or sold off for a fraction of its worth. The result of decades of "foreign aid" has resulted in a continental infrastructure which, if one excludes South Africa, couldn't support Pittsburgh.
Add to this, as I mentioned above, the endless cycle of Nature's little bag of tricks--persistent drought followed by violent flooding, a plethora of animals, reptiles and insects so dangerous that life is already cheap before Man starts playing his little reindeer games with his fellow Man--and what you are left with is: catastrophe.
The inescapable conclusion is simply one of resignation. This goes against the grain of our humanity--we are accustomed to ridding the world of this or that problem (smallpox, polio, whatever), and accepting failure is anathema to us. But, to give a classic African scenario, a polio vaccine won't work if the kids are prevented from getting the vaccine by a venal overlord, or a frightened chieftain, or a lack of roads, or by criminals who steal the vaccine and sell it to someone else. If a cure for AIDS was found tomorrow, and offered to every African nation free of charge, the growth of the disease would scarcely be checked, let alone reversed. Basically, you'd have to try to inoculate as many two-year old children as possible, and write off the two older generations.
So that is the only one response, and it's a brutal one: accept that we are powerless to change Africa, and leave them to sink or swim, by themselves.
It sounds dreadful to say it, but if the entire African continent dissolves into a seething maelstrom of disease, famine and brutality, that's just too damn bad. We have better things to do--sometimes, you just have to say, "Can't do anything about it."
The viciousness, the cruelty, the corruption, the duplicity, the savagery, and the incompetence is endemic to the entire continent, and is so much of an anathema to any right-thinking person that the civilized imagination simply stalls when faced with its ubiquity, and with the enormity of trying to fix it. The Western media shouldn't even bother reporting on it. All that does is arouse our feelings of horror, and the instinctive need to do something, anything--but everything has been tried before, and failed. Everything, of course, except self-reliance.
All we should do is make sure that none of Africa gets transplanted over to the U.S., because the danger to our society is dire if it does. I note that several U.S. churches are attempting to bring groups of African refugees over to the United States, European churches the same for Europe. Mistake. Mark my words, this misplaced charity will turn around and bite us, big time.
Even worse would be to think that the simplicity of Africa holds some kind of answers for Western society: remember "It Takes A Village"? Trust me on this: there is not one thing that Africa can give the West which hasn't been tried before and failed, not one thing that isn't a step backwards, and not one thing which is worse than, or that contradicts, what we have already.
So here's my solution for the African fiasco: a high wall around the whole continent, all the guns and bombs in the world for everyone inside, and at the end, the last one alive should do us all a favor and kill himself.
Inevitably, some Kissingerian realpolitiker is going to argue in favor of intervention, because in the vacuum of Western aid, perhaps the Communist Chinese would step in and increase their influence in the area. There are two reasons why this isn't going to happen.
Firstly, the PRC doesn't have that kind of money to throw around; and secondly, the result of any communist assistance will be precisely the same as if it were Western assistance. For the record, Mozambique and Angola are both communist countries--and both are economic disaster areas. The prognosis for both countries is disastrous--and would be the same for any other African country.
Africa has to heal itself. The West can't help it. Nor should we. The record speaks for itself.
2002-12-21 06:57 | User Profile
Great post - especially about taking care not to import Africans here. Because Africans make all things Africa, whether you're talking about Zimbabwe, Haiti, or Detroit. Albert Schweitzer said in his book Africa, Wisdom of A Lifetime,
**I have given my life to try to alleviate the sufferings of Africa. There is something that all White men who have lived here like I must learn and know: that these individuals are a sub-race. They have neither the intellectual, mental, or emotional abilities to equate or share equally with White men in any functions of our civilization. I have given my life to try to bring unto them the advantages which our civilization must offer, but I have become well aware that we must retain this status: White the superior, and they the inferior. For whenever a white man seeks to live among them as equals, they will either destroy or devour him. And they will destroy all of his work, and so for any existing relationship or for any benefit to his people, let White men, from anywhere in the world, who would come to help Africa remember that he must continually retain this status: you the master, and they the inferior children that you would help or teach. Never fraternize with them as equals. Never accept them as your social equals or they will devour you. They will destroy you... **
2002-12-21 09:50 | User Profile
**So that is the only one response, and it's a brutal one: accept that we are powerless to change Africa, and leave them to sink or swim, by themselves...
So here's my solution for the African fiasco: a high wall around the whole continent, all the guns and bombs in the world for everyone inside, and at the end, the last one alive should do us all a favor and kill himself. **
Regarding the proposed solution to Africaââ¬â¢s problem: No further comment necessary.
On second thought, the quarantine would suffice. But first, human decency demands that we accept all African Aryans who still retain the will to live and would voluntarily leave the wretched continent. To complete the equitable trade, our blacks (all of them, including mongrels) would take their place.
Whites ought to be ashamed and keep their heads down whenever the subject of Africaââ¬â¢s woes comes up, for the burden of guilt is ours alone. Beginning with the colonial regimes and continuing today, our meddling has had the effect of increasing drastically their numbers, far in excess of what any all-black society is capable of sustaining if left to its own devices. If we desire to cease adding to our crime, we must immediately halt all forms of aid including food, medicine and technology. Yes, even know-how because it is a certainty that the ââ¬Åknowââ¬Â part would be promptly forgotten and the resulting hardship would be aggravated by the technology induced comfort that preceded it.
This solution also happens to be the most humanitarian. I am serious about this, even if the numbskull of a radio talk show host, who provides the entertainment ingredient during my commutes, was not when Africaââ¬â¢s dilemma was discussed last month. He was horrified that people like the lone caller (1 out of 10+) who suggested as much exist. Apparently, eternal dumping of foreign aid is our obligation.
I understand the US has national debt of 6.3 trillion and growing mightily. Canadaââ¬â¢s federal debt is about half that when population and currency value adjustments are made. Is there anyone who thinks these debts will ever, ever be repaid? To this we may add state/provincial, municipal, corporate and personal debts. Both countries are for all practical purposes bankrupt and have been for some time. I suspect Europe is not far behind. Soon, the baby-boomer generation will begin its assault on pension funds, many of which it is hinted are under-funded. Social services will be relied upon with greater frequency, but its continued funding is suspect given the progressive decimation of the middle class. The way I see it, itââ¬â¢s a toss up whether the economic or social/multiculti collapse hits first.
Meanwhile, Africaââ¬â¢s talking simian population has been increasing at a geometric rate for most of this century, but that is OK we are told because it will level off and the emerging nations will eventually cease emerging. Thatz funny! Of course, Africaââ¬â¢s population will return to the pre-colonial figure, and the only question is how soon and how many tens of millions will have to die. The liberals and Christians are eager to see this number become as high as possible, which is why they insist that whites perform their moral duty untilââ¬Â¦ a sense of preservation overcomes morality and extreme misery hits the West. Then Mother nature will simplify it for us the only way she knows how.
2002-12-21 15:11 | User Profile
As an X resident of Rhodesia, I recall an often used statement that we would repeat to visitors....."when the last white man leaves Africa, please turn out the lights."
2002-12-21 16:39 | User Profile
rban: At least now, we give the appearance of trying to help Africa, which decreases their hostility and takes some of the air out of Islamic terror recruitment. Imagine what would happen if we openly and completely withdrew and declared that we do not care anymore.
Oh no no no -- our "appearance' of helping (and our actual helping!) changes not one WHIT the dislike and envy and hatred and anger of the blacks in Africa -- they have no empathy for other peoples/countries. And appreciation of help depends on a sense of gratitude -- have you EVER seen ANY sign of gratitude in Africa?
We have been helping Muslims all over the world -- has it lessened their hatred of us even a bit? As a basic tenet of Islam, destruction of infidels (that'd be us, folks!) is REQUIRED. Not: "unless they are sending you food and medicine" -- just ALL infidels! (And America's policies that DON'T involve "trying to help" just infuriate them politically and socially and in every way beyond their pre-existing religious requirements for death!)
And it's easy to imagine what would happen -- it's happening now. The roads, the cars and trucks and planes and boats, and guns and tanks, and farm combines, and medical gear, and construction equipment, and on and on would ALL go to h*ll, and millions and millions of Africans would starve and machete each other to death, until the population was reduced to a level that africa and the africans could sustain -- back to the 12th century or whenever. And if they have no planes and cars and boats and so on, kept running by whites, just HOW are they going to ââ¬Ëpay backââ¬â¢ the ones who ââ¬Ådesertedââ¬Â them? When they are too busy trying to keep themselves alive, they wonââ¬â¢t have time to try to kill off the people who quit carrying them!
Is that mean? Maybe -- but we whites DID NOT create their problems, and we CANNOT solve them! And we're only destroying ourselves (and them) trying to!
2002-12-21 19:06 | User Profile
Originally posted by Sisyfos@Dec 21 2002, 09:50 ** Of course, Africaââ¬â¢s population will return to the pre-colonial figure, and the only question is how soon and how many tens of millions will have to die. The liberals and Christians are eager to see this number become as high as possible, which is why they insist that whites perform their moral duty untilââ¬Â¦ **
In a nutshell this is how Africa got where it is today, no?
Face it, the European imperialists would have been more than happy to rake Africa's resources and keep the natives out of their way. When the liberals, missionaries and medicos got involved, the disaster was created.
They'll keep their mess going exactly the way they got it up and running the first time, only they won't call it the White Man's Burdon this time around. I know, Kipling meant the Philippines with that phrase, but it got elsewhere quick.
"Humanitarian duty" is how Western Civilization is committing suicide.
2002-12-22 01:57 | User Profile
When the collapse hits the US, then Europe, you will see a rapid and drastic reduction in almost all third world populations, not just in Africa. Disease, war, tribal battles, animals, starvation and crime will step in and do what they did naturally for thousands of years before whitey came in and bungled the "operation". No white dollars means a 60% - 70% reduction in the third world population, at least, over a three to five year period, maybe even quicker. The Chinese may want to exploit Africa's (and other regions) resources, but they would never bother wasting their time and money doling out food and aid to the unwashed masses. They'll offer what they feel is necessary to the local despot, and then move in and get what they want.
It seems as though guilt is something that very few non-whites actually experience/feel. I am sure that jewish guilt, by the way, is practically non-existent. A term created to keep the attention off their manipulation of white's feelings of guilt in certain circumstances. Something to fall back on as an excuse when their malevolent meddling is pointed out. However, that's getting off the beam. Yep, let Africa sink. Let the entire third world sink. We certainly don't need any of those people(s).
2002-12-22 14:06 | User Profile
My African experience 1950. I was assigned to the MV Del Rio as Deck Cadet, a small freighter, with a 9kt. speed. Nice quarters, excellent food, stood deck watches on the Bridge. Capt. Cornforth was Master. What a character. A crusty old Englisman.
Hit several Gulf ports, loading with general cargo for Africa. Then the crossing. First port of call was Dakar, Senegal, which was French at the time. Dusty, miserable place. Got my first and only camel ride. Discharged general cargo. On the return trip, we loaded tons and tons of peanuts.
Next was Monrovia, Liberia - The Negro Republic. Whites forbidden by their Constitution. (Nothing racist about that, right?). They had to make an exception for a Dutchman - he was the harbor pilot. They didn't have anyone in all of Liberia who they could trust with the job.
"Customs Agents" boarded. I was surprised to see they were all women, in uniform, except one man. It turns out they were all prostitutes, and he was their Pimp Daddy.
I was invited to visit The Firestone Plantation, a segregated, walled place for whites who ran the place. Rubber was Liberia's only real export, and it was here that the American whites lived, and ran the operation. We discharged manufactured goods, and loaded rubber on the return trip. The place was filthy. We took on about 20 men from the Kru tribe. They would accompany us down the coast and back. They were good at working the cargo gear, as well as loading and unloading. They set up a tent on the aft hatch, and lived there. We provided them with rice, and galley leftovers, and steam from our donkey boiler for cooking. They set up an outrigger toilet, and were generally a good bunch. They appeared to be more North African in appearance than the Sub-Sahara blacks.
On to Accra, Ghana. Another small port, filthy city. Discharged some manufactured goods, left the next day.
Lagos. Under British administration. Actually not a bad place, in the white areas. A decent hotel and a few decent pubs. Raw sewage running through the streets which smelled like raw sewage. Spent a few days, discharging general cargo.
Libreville. French. Terrible, filthy place. Left the next day.
On to the Belgian Congo. The river was running at about 6 knots, and we were making 9 knots, so I got to see the scenery. Really stupid looking people. First stop was Ango Ango, a small port which had some cargo for us. On to Matadi. Not a bad place, really. The Belgians were very tough with the blacks. They carried short hard rubber hoses, which they used to knock the crap out of the lazy ones. It was here I observed a black after a fly had landed on his open eye. HE DIDN'T EVEN BLINK! Went ashore, had a few beers in a nice Belgian bar, ate in a fine restraunt. We discharged general cargo, and left after 2 days.
Leopoldville was next. A really nice city. Clean, prosperous. Again, very Belgian, and the blacks were scared stiff of them. Discharged grneral cargo, and loaded Uranium ore, and mahagony logs. Quite an operation. Logs brought alongside with a black for about every 20 logs. He'd pass a whip line around one, then fist it on to our cargo wire, and we'd hoist it aboard. The logs were barely boyant, and were lashed to other logs of lighter wood. I saw one black cut loose the wrong log, and he dissappeared below the raft of them. Nobody thought much of this, BTW.
Spent about 5 days doing this, then down the river for more ore in Matadi. Captain Cornforth was a master at the flying moor technique of docking. We had deaisels, which were great for backing. However, they were hooked up to the shaft, and when you went from ahead to astern, you would have to stop the engines, select reverse in the engine room (no small job), then restart them in reverse, using compressed air to turn them over.
Capt. Cornforth went at full speed, 9 knots, plus the 6 knots of the river, ordered "Stop Engines", and the mate put the telegraph to STOP. At the proper moment, Capt Cornforth ordered "Full Astern", and hard right on the helm, to effect the mooring. I was assigned to man the bridge phone, ad it rang. I figured something was wrong, because there was no engine response to the stern bell. We were really moving, and the pier was getting VERY close. I picked up the phone and answered "Bridge Aye". It was Scotty, the Chief Engineer. He said "Tell the old man it will be a few minutes before I can answer that stern bell. We lost our compressed air." Holy sh*t! All I could say was "Hang on!" We struck the pier almost broadside, and damaged it, but no damage to our ship. The crew managed to get a few lines to the dock workers, and we eventually tied up. Loaded more Uranium, and off to Angola.
Run by the Portuguese. Very pleasant towns, with neat homes with lawns and gardens. Pretty girls, but Pappa was very protective. Blacks were as stupid as ever. We discharged general cargo and loaded fish meal in sacks in Launda, Lobito, Benguela, and at anchor in Ambriz.. Ugh, the smell!
2002-12-22 14:09 | User Profile
Lest we forget...(an update).
The ethnic cleansing of Southern Africa's commercial farm communities continues while the world remains silent... FARM MURDER TOLL :
1,390 farmers, farmworkers and kin were killed in South Africa since 1994 -- in often very violent, organised attacks, always by young African males 124 farm dwellers killed in Zimbabwe: 5 farmers killed in Namibia:
A Nedbank probe recently described these farm attacks as "deliberately targetting specific homesteads to kill the Afrikaner victims": robbery was not the prime motivation, in fact in 85% of last year's farm attacks, nothing had been "robbed". With more than half of South Africa's commercial farmers now already having vacated the sector permanently since 1994 -- more than 1-million hectares less maize is also being harvested this year. The entire region with its 120-million people is also plunging headlong into widespread famine- the WFP and FAO are warning... And all these facts are not unrelated. [url=http://groups.msn.com/AdrianaStuijtsjournalismduringapartheidsite/home.msnw]http://groups.msn.com/AdrianaStuijtsjourna...dsite/home.msnw[/url] (this above site is maintained by a previous Anti-Apartheidââ¬â¢s Activist, Adriana Stuijt, who has been appalled at the lack of interest and concern, not only from those outside of South Africa, but also inside South Africa of the slaughter taking place.
(I would invite those who are interested to go and look at the work of Prof CJ Moolman. I paste the address here below. Its findings are most disconcerting, to say the least.----Leon)
"SA's Farm Attacks and the African Renaissance" by Prof C J (Neels) Moolman author email: neels.m@mweb.co.za
DIRECT LINK TO BOOK:http://www.rights2property.com/PROF%20MOOLMAN%20FARM%20MURDERS%20BOOK/Default.htm
SA POLICE FARM TERRORISM INVESTIGATION WEBSITE: http: //www.saps.org.za/rural/inqfarm.htm Investigator: Prof Neels Moolman, Fax : South Africa 27 (152) 267 -0485
International Phone : 27 152 268 - 2121 or 15-268-3348 Department of Criminology, University of the North (Turfloop) Development and Public Affairs Office Private Bag X 1106 0727 SOVENGA
Republic of South Africa(I enclose an interesting quote from the "Executive Summary" of his book.....---Leon)As such, attacks on the Afrikaner farmers are therefore an expression of the continued resistance to European culture which expresses itself in the modern commercial agricultural sector of South Africa. So, also, is the dramatic deterioration of education in South Africa between 1994 and 2000.Therefore, these ongoing farm terrorist attacks against primarily Afrikaner farmers by African attackers -- coupled with President Thabo Mbeki's own proposed and widely propagated African Renaissance programme. should both be viewed as Africans' reactions to European culture, which is seen as "devastating" by African leaders themselves. This can also be seen by the public statements by leading Africans such as Colonel Muammar Gadaffi of Libya, who during his latest visits to Zimbabwe is publicly urging African audiences to "remove all signs of European culture" and to "chase all Europeans out of Africa".
First, They Came For South Africa. Thenââ¬Â¦. By Sam Francis
You don't hear much about South Africa these days, unless it's about all the trouble that country's white people are causingââ¬âor whatever white people remain there.
Since the "apartheid system" was dismantled in 1994 and a "black majority democracy" "liberated" the country, more and more whites leaveââ¬âmainly because so many have been murdered by black criminals whom the government of the "black majority democracy" refuses or is simply unable to control.
The most recent report about South Africa in what in this country is often called the "mainstream media" is a story about "white extremists" accused of plotting to overthrow the government or in one case to blow up a dam or set off bombs in downtown Johannesburg.
According to The Economist, a dozen men have been arrested for such offenses, but the magazine, which is about as "mainstream" as you can get in this country or Great Britain, dismisses what it calls the "deluded right-wing conspirators" as "paper tigers."
But in the media that is not so mainstream, at least in this part of the world, you hear somewhat different stories about South Africa. Thus, The Independent of South Africa on Saturday reported last week that a new study published in the South Africa Crime Quarterly, a law enforcement journal, finds that South Africans are more likely to be shot dead than to die in vehicle crashes. "An average of 55 South Africans are ... murdered every day," the paper reports, "more than in many countries which are at war." At 55 murders per day, the total number of murders per year is about 20,000, compared to about 16,000 for the United States. The latter, of course, has more than six times the population of South Africa.
A few years ago, South Africa's murder rate was said to be among the highest in the world, if not the highest. But the new "black majority democracy" banned the reporting of crime statistics because it discouraged foreign investment, so today no one really knows. In 1999 the Wall Street Journal called the level of violent crime in South Africa "astronomical," with some 24,500 murders and a per capita murder rate (26 per hundred thousand) four times that of the United States. Even The Economist allows that "right-wing terrorism" is fed by whites' fear of black violence and the government's refusal to control it. The New York Times in 1998 reported that some 500 white farmers had been murdered since 1994, and last summer World Net Daily reported that 1,200 have been murdered since that year, with some 6,000 attacks against white farmers. "It's politically correct to kill whites these days," one white farmer told World Net Daily's correspondent, who concluded that "the white Boer Afrikaner farmer is easily the highest at-risk group for murder on Earth."
It's hardly surprising therefore that South Africa's foreign minister last week urged Western states to stop grousing about Zimbabwe, where government-backed black mobs have so far killed only a handful of white farmers but where the government itself has seized the land of some 3,000 whites.
Whatever criticisms the West has made of Zimbabwe could just as easily be applied to South Africa itself, so it makes sense for the black-ruled states to stick together.
It also makes sense for white-ruled states to stick together, but they don't. It's precisely because of what the United States, Western Europe, Great Britain did in the 1970s through the 1980s that whites in southern Africa today face the loss of their land, their livelihoods, their freedoms, and their lives.
The whitesââ¬âand blacks, for that matterââ¬âof southern Africa were not delivered to tyranny and destruction by blacks but by other whites.
"The radical blacks hate us," the white South African farmer told World Net Daily last summer, "because we are strong, hard-working and productive. We came to South Africa 350 years ago and turned it into the richest country in the world, while before we came the locals had been here for many centuries and did nothing with the land."
The wife of yet another white farmer told the same reporter, "The farm invasion problem is not confined to South Africa. Look at Zimbabwe. Look at the call for white Australians to give their land back to the Aborigines. Look at the problems on the border with Mexico and the United States and the massive Third World immigration in Europe. European Western civilization is totally under siege by the New World Order elite."
What she says explains why so many whites are leaving the new democracies of southern Africa and why those who can't get out might be tempted to turn to terrorism.
If a South African housewife understands the big picture of which her country is a small part, why don't the leaders of the countries that betrayed their own people and civilization?
2002-12-22 14:51 | User Profile
Agghh...anybody can read a Francis column, good as it is. But you can't affix a price tag on those first-person 1950 memories of Ed's. Fascinating and very evocative. Seriously, I got so caught up in reading them I almost stopped a few times to swat the heat-maddened mosquitoes off my neck.
Give us more of this, Ed!
2002-12-22 16:19 | User Profile
Originally posted by Avalanche@Dec 20 2002, 23:28 ** So here's my solution for the African fiasco: a high wall around the whole continent, all the guns and bombs in the world for everyone inside, and at the end, the last one alive should do us all a favor and kill himself. **
Gosh, that's pretty harsh. For some odd reason tho, I laughed when I read this.
The problem is, there's no opposition in the USA to giving away this aid. The DEMS want it (by default, they want everything sane people DON"T want)...and the GOP is still trying to win the black vote. This is their opportunity to prove Trent Lott isn't their voice, don't ya know?
-Jay
2002-12-22 18:05 | User Profile
Ragno - Thanks. The sea year is the second year of the curriculum of the USMMA Kings Point.
My mext assignment was the SS Del Santos, down the E. Coast of South America.
My third and last trip was on the SS Doctor Lykes, to all over the Pacific.
It was one helluva year for a young man. I saw an awful lot of how the non-white world really is.
I'll see if I can chronicle the other trips from memory.
2002-12-22 18:14 | User Profile
Ed, I enjoyed reading your first-hand account of Africa in the 50's. It had definitely gone downhill since the European influence has left. Also you allude to the fact that Belgians were hard on the Africans. From what I have read of black-only societies such as Haiti, and the tribal cultures of Africa, brutality is the norm for order and punishment. In fact I would say that the Belgians were rather soft by black African standards.
Also, I say let the blacks in Africa drown in the cesspool that they created. When people sin against God, God often leaves them to their own devices and I think that we should do the same. AIDS is increasing at such an exponential rate that it will eventually take over the high black birth rate.
2002-12-22 21:28 | User Profile
Skemper - Thanks.
Here's an item from the horses mouth;
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Africa has to get new breed of humans (Opinion) The Monitor (Kampala) January 4, 2000 By Ssekitooleko Deo
Kampala - I wish to agree with Charles Onyango-Obbo's article, "Slave Trade Took Our Best, Left Us Chaff" (The Monitor Dec. 08). I go a step further to suggest that if Africa is to rediscover itself, it must acquire new, improved breeds of not only plants and animal species but also humans.
This can be done through cross-breeding with superior human beings from other continents; inviting our relatives, the Afro-Americans, to come back and occupy our highest political and economic positions, and recalling the colonialists to govern us for a specific period. The latter can be done by privatising the political structure of our governments.
With the advent of genetic engineering, we have seen increased milk production, eaten chicken of only two months old, and acquired clonal coffee which matures in a couple of years.
All this has been possible because the Agriculture ministry recognised the potential of new improved breeds of crops and animals.
The same formula can work with human beings.
However retrogressive it may appear, there is no doubt that Europeans have been the best breed of human species, followed by Asians.
At the bottom of the list are black Africans.
The African morphology, dark colouration, greed, lack of intellect, failure to internalise theories and lack of interest in preserving our best things clearly show that we are an inferior people.
It is universally accepted that any specie that practices cannibalism against members of its kind is primitive. Look at African politicians, butchering whole ethnic groups, starving whole populations.
Since it is beyond doubt that almost all Africans in positions of power tend to misuse it, it is logical to conclude that there is a problem with the stock from which our leaders come.
Even our intellectuals, public servants and business people are of poor stock.
In recent times, the American breed of human species has out-competed the European breed, the main reason being that the American stock is an improved one.
It is a mixture of the Europe's, Asia's, and Africa's best breeds.
Americans continue to improve their human stock through the Green Lottery project whereby they admit into the US at least 60,000 superior individuals from all over the world.
Now, if Americans are so serious about the quality of humans entering their country, how could they have bought chaff as slaves, leaving the best behind?
Let's face the fact that the best were taken, we are descendants of the chaff and that is why we cannot live at peace with ourselves and cannot exploit our potential to the full.
I wish to suggest that if Africans were evolving at the same pace with Europeans, then those Africans who had attained a high evolutionary level; both social and biological, were taken away as slaves and only chaff remained.
Why is it that all African leaders can't think beyond their life spans?
Almost all of them made constitutions which suited them but not their nations.
They introduced police regimes, enriched themselves at the expense of their nations and jailed or murdered their political opponents.
Kwame Nkrumah, Milton Obote, Julius Nyerere, Kenneth Kaunda, Houphouet- Boigny, Kamuzu Banda, etc. were all descendants of the chaff.
When these sons of the chaff failed to fulfil the independence promises and abused power massively, they were toppled by army generals who became even worse.
The generals killed, raped, and some even practised cannibalism - Jean Bedel Bokassa, Idi Amin, Mengistu Haile Mariam, Mobutu Sese Seko, Sani Abacha, etc.
Finally, the generals have been replaced with the so-called "new breed" of African leaders -- Yoweri Museveni, Paul Kagame, Laurent Kabila, Isias Aferweki and Meles Zenawi.
These leaders mainly captured power through popular revolutions. But many of them have since formed one party systems, in some cases disguised as movements. They have personalised armies, fought each other, looked on helplessly as their relatives plunder national treasuries and worse still, they are not prepared to quit power peacefully.
The African intelligentsia is another category of chaff that pollutes the African environment.
Most of our professors are opportunists and cannot defend their opinions.
They change like chameleons and their political beliefs don't depend on research - Apolo Nsibambi, George Kanyeihamba, Tarsis Kabwegyere, Adonia Tiberondwa, Edward Rugumayo, etc.
It is in fact amazing that a person of modest education like Maj. Gen. Salim Saleh lectures them on development issues and is the only one has organised his beliefs into a philosophy!
Whatever we may say, therefore, the fact remains our stock is of a poor quality and there is an urgent need for "restocking."
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2002-12-22 22:35 | User Profile
Here's a summary of my second trip to the Third World, South America.
After my voyage to Africa on the MV Del Rio, I was assigned to the SS Del Santos, which would sail down the East coast of South America. It was Dec. 1950, if I recall.
She was a C-2, a little larger than the Del Rio, and a steamer. I didn't miss the noice and vibration of the diesels. She made 12 knots, and was a bit tender (topheavy - rolled a lot.)
Master was Captain Leger, a New Orleans Frenchman. Good man. I think he owned an awful lot of property around the Gulf, and was well off. A Sea Captain in those days was about the equivelant of an Airline Captain today. My first task was to chaufer Mrs. Leger around in his new Cadillac. An elegant French lady, very gracious, and thankful.
We loaded general cargo around the Gulf ports, and headed South for Brazil. Belem was first port of call. At a distance, it was a nice looking spot. Two cities actually, one on the sea, the port, and the other up on a high bluff. Something like Lisbon in that regard. A tram conected the two.
Most of the people were dark, Indian types. A few white Portugese men seemed to run everything. In general, a better lot than the blacks in Africa. (They had to be.) I was paid $82/month, which wasn't much. To supplement it, I bought cartons of cigarettes from the slop locker for a dollar, and sold them to the stevadore's for $5. That was a good deal for them. I decided to look over the city from a bar, of course. Pretty decent beer was available, and I had a few. On leaving, I was approached by a local who asked me if I wanted to sell my watch. I had a spare back on the ship, and wore a cheapie ashore, so I asked "How much?". He gave me a figure in Cruzeiro's that amounted to about $80. I told him to show me the money, and he produced a roll of the notes that added up to the agreed upon amount. I handed over the watch, and went back to the ship, whistling and scratching over the good deal I had just made.
I stopped in a waterfront bar, and had another brew. I paid for it from the roll of Cruzeiro's I had just recieved. The bartender asked where I got that money from. I told him. He spoke in Portugese to the rest of the guys there, and they all had a great laugh - It turned out that the "money" I had was like Monopoly money, and kids used it to play with. They get it from a candy bar. Damn, I was pissed! Welcome to Brazil! A bunch of sailors bought me a few rounds. The locals were actually quite friendly to Americans, and some of them wanted me to go with them to find the scoundrel and beat the Bejaysus out of him, but i figured he was long gone, so I went back to the ship, a wiser sailor.
The next stop was Vittoria do Maarim, a few miles up the Pindare river. Very nice place. I noticed all the ladies were very white. Lot's of blondes with blue eyes. It turns out the place is (was?) all German. They have a colony there. The next day it was Mardi Gras. What luck. All work stopped, and the streets were wild! The men had little vials filled with a cheap perfume and alcohol. They had a squirter attachment, and the men would go up behind the women, lift their skirts, and give them a squirt. It made a very cold liquid, and the women screamed. Many had no panties, so I got a lot of great views. (I also joined in the fun.).
Discharged our load the next day, and off to Fortaleza, Natal, and Recife. Pretty much the same operation, most of the poor were black and lazy, and the Portugese ran the place. I saw a lot of mulattos and mixed couples. Recife was a real dirty old city. Discharged cargo, and off again. Port time was usually a day or two.
Next major port was Rio de Janeiro. What an eye opener that was. Beautuful city. Great beach at Ippa Nima. One young lady spotted me and figured I was a Kings Pointer. She asked me if she knew her fiance, a Cadet who had apparently left her knocked up. I asked his name. "Henry Aldrich" was her reply. "Nope, sorry, I don't know him".
On to Santos. Bustling but dirty seaport. Ships lined up at anchor waiting for a dock space of a lighter. Spent a week there. Mostly darkies of one shade or another. It was the seaport for Sao Paulo, a huge place. Anyway, next was Motevideo. Hey, white people! Mostly Spaniards. Clean, prosperous, friendly.
On to Beunos Aires. beautiful city, wide tree lined streets, Spaniards, with some obvious Northern Europeans too. We finished discharging, and started loading. Canned beef. beef was everywhere. The stevadors all caried a raw steak, and broiled it right there on the docks over coals. I had a ball. Up to Rosario, loaded more beef, and started the trip North. Same ports, but now we were loading. Coffee, coffee, and more coffee. They really DO have an awful lot of coffee in Brazil.
One spot stuck in my mind. Angra dos Reis. Gorgeous bay, neat small city, more white folks. If I was ever going to jump ship, this would be the spot.
Anyway, back to New Orleans, sign off, and wait for my next ship.
This was the life.
2002-12-23 06:57 | User Profile
Originally posted by Ragnar@Dec 21 2002, 19:06 ** > Originally posted by Sisyfos@Dec 21 2002, 09:50 ** Of course, Africaââ¬â¢s population will return to the pre-colonial figure, and the only question is how soon and how many tens of millions will have to die. The liberals and Christians are eager to see this number become as high as possible, which is why they insist that whites perform their moral duty untilââ¬Â¦ **
In a nutshell this is how Africa got where it is today, no?
Face it, the European imperialists would have been more than happy to rake Africa's resources and keep the natives out of their way. When the liberals, missionaries and medicos got involved, the disaster was created.
They'll keep their mess going exactly the way they got it up and running the first time, only they won't call it the White Man's Burdon this time around. I know, Kipling meant the Philippines with that phrase, but it got elsewhere quick.
"Humanitarian duty" is how Western Civilization is committing suicide. **
This article neglects to mention the "Bell Curve" reasons for Africa's inability to rise from the jungle.
The simple, terrible fact is that black Africans have a mean IQ of 73. This astonishing statistic is borne out by numerous studies, and implies that fully half of all black Africans are by white standards mentally retarded. It also means (assuming a normal distribution) that only 16% of them will be at or above the African American mean IQ of 85, that only 2% will be at or above the white mean IQ of 100, and that only a miniscule number would meet or exceed IQ=115, the minimum for good college material.
Richard Lynn suggests that nations must have a mean IQ of at least 90 in order to be able to produce enough technicians, teachers, doctors and engineers to maintain a technological civilization. Black Africans don't even come close to that minimum - they are about 1.5 SD's below the mark. The awful truth is that black Africans cannot maintain a technological civilization, and that they never will be able to do so. The only hope that they have is to import whites, Indians, Asians and others to run their infrastructure for them - in short, colonization. But this has been tried and failed, because it runs up against the brute fact of human nature, that the most ambitious would rather rule in hell than serve in heaven.
So, I agree with the author. We must leave Africa to work these things out on her own.
Walter
2002-12-23 19:34 | User Profile
Originally posted by Walter Yannis@Dec 23 2002, 06:57 ** The simple, terrible fact is that black Africans have a mean IQ of 73. This astonishing statistic is borne out by numerous studies, and implies that fully half of all black Africans are by white standards mentally retarded. **
Yes Walter, but to you this is a fact. To a liberal it's a problem to be solved.
Imagine if your statement became common coin! In no time the universities and media would demand a "cure" for retardation and an eternity of foreign aid for Africa. Maybe terrible facts are better left unspoken.
2002-12-24 01:05 | User Profile
**The awful truth is that black Africans cannot maintain a technological civilization, and that they never will be able to do so. The only hope that they have is to import whites, Indians, Asians and others to run their infrastructure for them - in short, colonization. But this has been tried and failed, because it runs up against the brute fact of human nature, that the most ambitious would rather rule in hell than serve in heaven. **
I like your take on the nature of human ambition, but I would not term Africaââ¬â¢s inevitable return to pre-colonial standards as ââ¬Åawful.ââ¬Â It will be a regression only from an alien (white) perspective ââ¬â a construct that posits the technological civilization as a standard, and one it presumes must necessarily be sought by all hominid races without regard for their distinct inner natures.
Did the natives of Africa prior to white contact know they were poor? Were they dissatisfied with their mud huts, their cuisine (or lack thereof) and their entertainment alternatives? Of course not, for without a basis of comparison no babbling of opulence or poverty is possible. Whitey came along and promptly reminded the native what a savage he was. We do this still, and not just by the filth called entertainment that we pour via satellites and airwaves, but by our very presence. To paraphrase RPO: ââ¬Åthe black man if left to his own devices is doubtless as content as any other living being,ââ¬Â and it matters not that other hominids think his condition as one of squalor.
This is not to say that the technologically advanced West, in its present hyper-capitalistic form, is an ideal model for others to emulate (even if capable of doing so on their own). The West is dying and every news piece that supports or does not refute the claim that ââ¬Åwe need immigrantsââ¬Â admits it even if its pushers lack the neural density to perceive as much. White population decline (by itself) is actually desirable, but when combined with invasion and miscegenation it is lethal to our Aryan genetic heritage. This is problem 1.
Problem 2 is the aforementioned judeo induced but gentile elite supported brand of capitalism that steers our technological development on a path where it has become detrimental and may prove fatal. One need not be a tree-hugger (sierra club members seem incapable of making the connection) to lament the environmental deterioration and conclude that overpopulation and culture of promoting ultra-high consumption is to blame. It goes without saying that such ââ¬Åcultureââ¬Â is a requisite without which modern capitalism would collapse in an instance.
If we examine the environmental, fiscal and cultural state of the union preceding the arrival of the generation that one organization man called ââ¬Åthe greatestââ¬Â and ending with the death of their immediate scions ââ¬Åthe boomersââ¬Â some 25 years hence (environmental and cultural consequences can be readily extrapolated but proper fiscal accounting requires we wait till boomers finish with social security), it emerges that our civilization cannot afford many such consecutive generations if it means to endure. This is not meant as an indictment of these generations, for I have no doubt that mine would act the same under similar conditions, but to illustrate the non-viability of states that fancy that democracy (syphilis), judeo-capitalism (Ponzi schemes R us), and now multiculturalism (barbarism) is the path of righteousness.
In other words, interesting times are coming and the fate of a few hundred million savages is irrelevant in the context of the global changes I envision. Concerning our brotherz: I and other racists on this site can take pride that the position we advocate (comments on thread seem consistent) is in the long term infinitely more humanitarian than the perennially paternal (hence deadly for both races) position of liberals. :o
2002-12-24 01:43 | User Profile
Originally posted by rban@Dec 22 2002, 15:21 ** The real tragedy of South Africa is the oppression of East Indians by the native savages. Afrikaners are irrelevant now to South Africa and its future; the groups that really matter are the English, Indians, and Jews. As I have noted in previous posts, the English gave political power to the Afrikaner savages to maintain 'white unity'...everyone knows the real work was done by the Holy Trinity that I mentionned above. Blacks and Afrikaners are both the ruin of the country. Shed no tears for either.
Roy, your hatred and yes, wishful thinking, comes out clearly. Third World countries, especially those with massive resources & human capital at their disposal, do not need 'whitey' for anything, they are completele self sufficient, and in fact whitey needs them a lot more than vice versa.
Let China stop exporting consumer goods and let India stop developing software for a mere two days, and watch the West drop to its knees. These two countries are more advanced than any Western nation except the US. The value of US trans-Pacific trade has exceeded trans Atlantic for many years now. Screw Europe, it is a dying continent with zero technological or economic dynamism.
Asia is the future, and America too due to its Asian immigrants. This thread could just as easily be titled 'Let Europe Sink'. And sink they shall!! Good riddance. **
Stop giving China and India our continuing stream of technological advancements and watch them stagnate. Stop giving them Western money and watch India and the rest of the third world collapse. The Chinese have demonstrated an ability to feed their population, while the Indians seem to create more and more starvation cases each month, despite claimed increases in some areas of agriculture. Your worship of Indians is hilarious - with a population of 1 billion, their "contributions" in any areas of advancement are rather small, wouldn't you say?
Wishful thinking? No. Things are crumbling, a little here, a little there. If the West falls apart, as it is doing, and becomes self absorbed in the natural course of affairs needed to effect a clean up and reconstitution (removal of all undesirables, especially third worlders, zionists, etc., revamping money and trade systems) the third world finds itself ... stranded.
If they don't need whitey for anything, why do they go to whitey's countries, including Indians? Why do they ALL have their hands out for whitey's money, including Indians? Without whitey showing the way, why are they virtually unable to do anything on their own with these supposed vast resources and "human capital" - including India?
I really do think, as do others on the board, that you are trolling the web looking for people to irritate. And that your constant focus on Indians is a screen for some other group.
2002-12-24 02:29 | User Profile
Originally posted by Sisyfos@Dec 24 2002, 01:05 ** In other words, interesting times are coming and the fate of a few hundred million savages is irrelevant in the context of the global changes I envision. **
That's a point we all probably agree on, thanks.
The problem #1 for Western Civ might be that it thinks the worst thing that can happen is the Fall of the Roman Empire, which was procedural, political and localized to the Western Mediterranean. I've argued before that the fall of the empire of the west is a bad precedent to base anything on.
The real worry is the changes that came after around 1200 B.C. when the Bronze Age terminated. That was a fall. We're still digging up cities and indeed nations that fell in that collapse, over three thousand years later. Homer and the Bible are post-collapse literature. With only a few exceptions, "history" before 1200 B.C. is guesswork and folklore.
Those are the sort of changes that came then and are coming now.
2002-12-24 06:19 | User Profile
Originally posted by Sisyfos@Dec 24 2002, 01:05 ** > **The awful truth is that black Africans cannot maintain a technological civilization, and that they never will be able to do so. The only hope that they have is to import whites, Indians, Asians and others to run their infrastructure for them - in short, colonization. But this has been tried and failed, because it runs up against the brute fact of human nature, that the most ambitious would rather rule in hell than serve in heaven. **
I like your take on the nature of human ambition, but I would not term Africaââ¬â¢s inevitable return to pre-colonial standards as ââ¬Åawful.ââ¬Â It will be a regression only from an alien (white) perspective ââ¬â a construct that posits the technological civilization as a standard, and one it presumes must necessarily be sought by all hominid races without regard for their distinct inner natures.
Did the natives of Africa prior to white contact know they were poor? Were they dissatisfied with their mud huts, their cuisine (or lack thereof) and their entertainment alternatives? Of course not, for without a basis of comparison no babbling of opulence or poverty is possible. Whitey came along and promptly reminded the native what a savage he was. We do this still, and not just by the filth called entertainment that we pour via satellites and airwaves, but by our very presence. To paraphrase RPO: ââ¬Åthe black man if left to his own devices is doubtless as content as any other living being,ââ¬Â and it matters not that other hominids think his condition as one of squalor. **
I think we agree.
The problem is that black Africans have had a taste of a civilization that they cannot even maintain on their own (much less develop independently), and they've found it good. They want elicricity and modern health care, and they don't particularly care how they acquire them.
The current strategy is to use international organizations like the UN, their own diaspora in the First World in alliance with the Jewish media in the States to play on white guilt. It works pretty well, too.
I understand that Somali audiences of "Black Hawk Down" went crazy with delight whenever an American took a hit. Yet, these same people just love it when we send money and food. A genocide of whites is now brewing in Zimbabwe, and indeed soon in SA itself. I doubt that even that will be sufficient to rouse our people to resistance, because the Great Media gOD will simply ignore it, and the great mass of our people get their opinions from the media.
To paraphrase a constant point made by the late William Pierce, the problem isn't blacks and their demands, it is rather Jews playing on our own evolved instincts for altruistic compassion via their media monopoly.
Africans are just what they are. I say "God Bless Us Everyone." Leave them in peace.
I think that we all agree that Problem No. 1 is to cleanse our racial organism from parasites.
Walter
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2002-12-24 08:38 | User Profile
Ragnar @ Dec 23 2002, 20:29
**The real worry is the changes that came after around 1200 B.C. when the Bronze Age terminated. That was a fall. We're still digging up cities and indeed nations that fell in that collapse, over three thousand years later...
Those are the sort of changes that came then and are coming now. **
Precisely. Belief in the conclusion of books such as Michael Beheââ¬â¢s ââ¬ÅDarwinââ¬â¢s Black Box: The Biochemical Challenge to Evolutionââ¬Â in not necessary, for even casual reading of the earliest unearthed literary works is a valuable lesson on the apparent unalterable nature of Western man, no matter the extent of his technological development.
The fact the ancients knew that Earth is a sphere and orbits the Sun but the men of the Middle Ages did not, is frankly mind-boggling and no mere artefact of history. Similarly, the whole of Renaissance is nothing but the reacquisition of knowledge once lost, and the reason we cannot state the same for the Industrial Revolution and beyond is because we just donââ¬â¢t know.
An impartial observer of our society must wonder about the merits of having a tiny fraction of citizens engaged in the production of human necessities, i.e., food, shelter, clothing, and transportation thereof, while the bulk of the populace is made busy playing at paper shuffle. Yes, we canââ¬â¢t all be farmers, builders and scientists, but one would think that rational people would be able to devise more meaningful occupations than, say, tax lawyers & accountants, who are legions and whose contribution to society consists of apportioning the dole slated for our masters.
On the health front we face intriguing problems such as two-digit percentage decline in sperm count readings between generations, and an increase in the use of synthetics masquerading as food. The presence of estrogen hormones (birth-control pill residue) in our water supply is one explanation for the former, while the latter appears to be a cost-effective solution to growing populations. If only these examples are true, it follows that our problems are exponentially greater than ones faced by a starving hunter & gatherer band. They could always change venues. We, however, must eventually starve (as is already the case in Africa) or be fruitful and multiply and starve that much faster. Or perhaps our apocalyptic arsenals will triumph first. So many variablesââ¬Â¦
Indeed, our problems are global in dimension and comparisons with the Roman Empire may be wishful thinking on our part. :(
Walter Yannis @ Dec 24 2002, 00:19
**I think that we all agree that Problem No. 1 is to cleanse our racial organism from parasites. **
Aye. Provided that the infected tissue/treacherous cells of our national body undergo identical cleansing.
2002-12-24 12:29 | User Profile
Originally posted by Sisyfos@Dec 24 2002, 08:38 ... The fact the ancients knew that Earth is a sphere and orbits the Sun but the men of the Middle Ages did not, is frankly mind-boggling and no mere artefact of history. ...
In the Middle Ages the Earth was known to be a sphere. The Venerable Bede described the Earth as round "like a playground ball", which he contrasted with "round like a shield".
2002-12-24 20:41 | User Profile
** The Venerable Bede described the Earth as round "like a playground ball", which he contrasted with "round like a shield". **
Thanks for the correction. The monks with their privileged access to repositories of scripts of all sorts have slipped my mind completely.
2002-12-25 03:10 | User Profile
Originally posted by Sisyfos@Dec 24 2002, 08:38 ** Indeed, our problems are global in dimension and comparisons with the Roman Empire may be wishful thinking on our part. :(
Walter Yannis @ Dec 24 2002, 00:19
**I think that we all agree that Problem No. 1 is to cleanse our racial organism from parasites. **
Aye. Provided that the infected tissue/treacherous cells of our national body undergo identical cleansing. **
Our problems are indeed global in dimension - at the moment. A crushing collapse will have the effect of making our problems a bit more "local" - and serve to wake up the masses, as a slap in the face of cold hard reality will keep them from being so easily influenced by the Pied Pipers of Hymie town. A crude way of putting it, yes.
Walter - yes, cleansing the racial body of the parasites is the start, and much more easily accomplished if a great deal of the artificial situation that is our current reality goes into the tank.
2002-12-25 03:42 | User Profile
None of it's intrinsically global in "dimension" ... we don't have the balls, to bring it back into context... we have the brains... gave them away... we have the heart... gave it away... the balls?... hard to depart with... so I have to assume, we simply don't have those...
2002-12-26 22:09 | User Profile
Afrikaners are irrelevant now to South Africa and its future; the groups that really matter are the English, Indians, and Jews. As I have noted in previous posts, the English gave political power to the Afrikaner savages to maintain 'white unity'...everyone knows the real work was done by the Holy Trinity that I mentionned above. Blacks and Afrikaners are both the ruin of the country. Shed no tears for either.
Hmmm... 'n Koolie van 'n kultur dit is een van die armste in die wereld. In sy opinie die een million Koolies is meer belangerik as die drie million Boere. :rolleyes:
2002-12-29 07:04 | User Profile
The fact the ancients knew that Earth is a sphere and orbits the Sun but the men of the Middle Ages did not, is frankly mind-boggling and no mere artefact of history.
Think about all that was widely known in 1920 and has now been concealed, as a result of the efforts of Boas and his Tribe.
2002-12-29 15:54 | User Profile
Originally posted by rban@Dec 29 2002, 09:04 ** 'n Koolie van 'n kultur dit is een van die armste in die wereld. In sy opinie die een million Koolies is meer belangerik as die drie million Boere.
This is an English board, not one populated by African savages speaking some tribal jungle gibberish...please translate so that civilized people can understand. **
In reply to the remark that the one million Indians in South Africa have a greater teleological value that the 3 million Afrikaner Protestants, I remarked that a person from a primitive, poor and ignorant culture doesn't have the brains or discernment to make those kinds of judgements.
2002-12-29 16:55 | User Profile
Originally posted by mwdallas@Dec 29 2002, 07:04 > The fact the ancients knew that Earth is a sphere and orbits the Sun but the men of the Middle Ages did not, is frankly mind-boggling and no mere artefact of history.**
Think about all that was widely known in 1920 and has now been concealed, as a result of the efforts of Boas and his Tribe.**
Very true MW. 'It is a good rule, after reading a new book, never to allow yourself another new one till you have read an old one in between.' - CS Lewis.
2002-12-29 23:09 | User Profile
For anyone who wants to know what some American blacks think about Africa's plight, check out [url=http://www.issues-views.com/index.php/sect/2005]http://www.issues-views.com/index.php/sect/2005[/url].
2002-12-30 01:33 | User Profile
Kmita,
Years ago when I first got into construction the laborer came by us and the fellow I was working with said something to him about Africa. The laborer replied with along these lines: " I aint lost nothin in Africa!"
Seriously, this writer makes a [url=http://www.issues-views.com/index.php/sect/2005/article/2071]good point,[/url] not only about Africa and customs and cultures, but can also be applied to alot of other countries as well.
At the end they are going to have to decide what works best for them without someone trying to shove "democracy," or whatever down their throats.
2002-12-30 02:44 | User Profile
Originally posted by rban@Dec 29 2002, 18:36 ** I see...so now Afrikaners are more adavnced than the English as well?
You know what my biggest regret is with respect to South Africa? We had the Boers crushed and locked up in internment camps, and all we needed to do was take it one step further and turn the gas on. But guess what happened? Our traditional enlightened liberalism and animal rights crusaders combined forces to save the Afrikaner vermin. Unfortunate, indeed...
But hey, look at the bright side....it is my fondest hope that the kaffirs complete the job that we started. As long as they don't take the Holy Trinity down with them... **
Rban,
I find it strange that a white man such as yourself defends Indians. If they are so great why don't you move to India and join them? Afrikkanners are the ones that made Southern Africa prosperous, despite the Kaffirs there. I do have to say that Indians are several steps above the Kaffirs in terms of intelligence. Unlike the Indians, the Afrikanners do not mutilate themselves when worshipping their gods, they do not burn the wives if the husband dies, they do not demand impossible dowries from the bride's family and murder her if the girl's family cannot comply, also they eat cows rather letting it sit in the middle of the road holding up traffic like Indians because the cow could be a reincarnated relative that achieved the highest level, they do not tolerate rats in their churches like Hindus do in their temples letting them multiply until the rats cannibalize each other. Most of all the strength of the Afrikkanner of old came from worshipping and obeying the Almighty God as found in the Christian Bible, rather than submitting themselves to the man-hating demonic Gods of the Hindu Vega which keep Indians in the backwaters despite any technological success they may have learned from the West.
2002-12-30 03:00 | User Profile
SKemper,
I believe that Rban is either Indian himself or Jewish. By Rban`s thinking why should he move to India when there are so many in America that are determined to move India over here? :o ;) :huh:
2002-12-30 03:47 | User Profile
Rban,
I thought that you said that you were a white man in a previous post and I assume that you are a Hindu. I said that some Hindu temples do have rats because the rat is related in the worship of one of their gods.
Also, I do not have a wife but a husband because I am a woman, and no, I am no feminazi, and I despise them as much as you do. The only thing that I like about India is their food. Btw, the US has not had a female president yet, but Indira Gaundi's husband could not keep her in her place, couldn't he? Also, to break your bubble, feminism is alive and well in India. Here is a link:
[url=http://www.cddc.vt.edu/feminism/indi.html]http://www.cddc.vt.edu/feminism/indi.html[/url]
Feminism is a world-wide movement, not just an infection of US females. There are feminist organizations in just about every country. If the only American females that some of you men here encounter are feminazis, then you need to get out more.
2002-12-30 03:58 | User Profile
Originally posted by skemper@Dec 30 2002, 03:47 **Rban,
I thought that you said that you were a white man in a previous post and I assume that you are a Hindu. I said that some Hindu temples do have rats because the rat is related in the worship of one of their gods.
**
I've heard rban deny he is Jewish or Hindu, but I've never heard him deny he was a rat. Maybe that explains his philohinduism :P
Except for rban, a rat seems to lofty.
[url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?act=ST&f=11&t=4935&st=40#entry24868]Jai Hind - Victory to India[/url]
2002-12-30 04:35 | User Profile
**I see...so now Afrikaners are more adavnced than the English as well?
You know what my biggest regret is with respect to South Africa? We had the Boers crushed **
I guess that gives it away. An Englishman who's gone native. Is there anything more contemptable?
And yes, you did have the Boere crushed, and you only had to outnumber them 150 to one to do it. I guess that shows your superiority.
2002-12-30 15:43 | User Profile
When White Christians rules India, we needed just a few thousand, because of the Hindu inferiority is every aspect of live and science.
We European Christians have never relied on numbers; we don't need them.
Yawn.
2002-12-30 19:02 | User Profile
Originally posted by rban@Dec 30 2002, 09:27 ** in fact I would like to see most here abandon that Christianity trash and convert. **
Christianity trash?
Go easy, rban or some instant karma's gonna get ya.
<_<
2002-12-30 20:02 | User Profile
I am sure that your PM box is full of anti rban rants by now
Oh, yeah. I keep mine color-coded so the sheer volume of them doesn't overwhelm me. :unsure:
2002-12-30 20:04 | User Profile
Originally posted by il ragno@Dec 30 2002, 14:02 ** Oh, yeah. I keep mine color-coded so the sheer volume of them doesn't overwhelm me. :unsure: **
LOL! That guy's something else, isn't he?
Thanks for the second laugh of the day, IR!
:P
2002-12-31 00:29 | User Profile
And so I know how to reply properly, what is your tribe (since you use the word)?
2002-12-31 00:30 | User Profile
It's a damn good thing you 'European Christians' don't rely on numbers, because soon you WON'T HAVE THEM.
I've got seven kids. If some degenerate Whites don't replicate their kind, what is that to me but a blessing?
2002-12-31 00:45 | User Profile
Changing the subject slightly
TD is that a Croatian Flag by your icon? If so this Croatian/German mutt slautes you.
2002-12-31 00:51 | User Profile
Originally posted by martel@Dec 30 2002, 18:45 ** TD is that a Croatian Flag by your icon? If so this Croatian/German mutt slautes you. **
Dobro dan, martel!
Indeed it is. From extensive business relations, I have come to know and like the Croatians. The flag is just my little tribute to, as one Croat put it to me, "a 99.99% white Christian country."
:)
2002-12-31 00:57 | User Profile
I also admire the Croatians. As a point of useless trivia which is also off topic, we get the tie from them. They evidently wore a white thin sash around their necks, and when one of the Louis IIRC the 14th, asked what is that? The reply was corruped into Cravat.
A proud people, and one that doesn't bend the neck willingly.
2002-12-31 02:47 | User Profile
A blessing? You are mad.
No, I did quite well this year, as three of my kids help me with my business.
But I'm glad you think so, the lack of procreation by pricks like you is helpful for my long term plans.
2002-12-31 17:17 | User Profile
I've heard rban deny he is Jewish or Hindu, but I've never heard him deny he was a rat.
What a classic!