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2002-12-16 18:35 | User Profile
A respected Saskatchewan Indian leader said Friday Hitler did the right thing when he "fried" six million Jews during the Second World War.
In comments one local Jewish leader described as unfortunate, David Ahenakew, a senator with the Federation of Saskatchewan Indian Nations (FSIN), a former chief of the organization and a former chief of the Assembly of First Nations (AFN), said in an interview Friday the Nazi leader was trying to clean up the world during the war.
"The Jews damn near owned all of Germany prior to the war," Ahenakew said.
"That's how Hitler came in. He was going to make damn sure that the Jews didn't take over Germany or Europe. That's why he fried six million of those guys, you know. Jews would have owned the goddamned world. And look what they're doing. They're killing people in Arab countries."
The 68-year-old Ahenakew made his remarks after giving a 45-minute, profanity-laced address to between 150 and 200 delegates attending an FSIN conference on a new Health Canada policy requiring Indians to sign a consent form before receiving certain health services.
During his wide-ranging speech, in which he complained about bigotry in Canadian society, accused the media of creating racial conflict and continually referred to non-Indian Canadians as "immigrants," Ahenakew said he lived in Germany during the late 1950s when he was with the Canadian army.
He said Germans told him the Jews started the Second World War. He said Israel and the United States are about to start a third world war, a reference to the current troubles in the Middle East.
Approached afterwards to clarify his comments on Jews and the Second World War, Ahenakew said he agreed with his German friends. When asked how he could justify the Holocaust, Ahenakew said: "How do you get rid of a disease like that, that's going to take over, that's going to dominate?"
Ahenakew said when he served in Egypt in 1964. he saw Jews kill people. When asked for details, he said mines planted by the Israeli army killed civilians.
"All I know is what the Germans told me. Of course, I believe them. I saw the Jews kill people in Egypt when I was there. The Palestinians, Arabs. I saw them (Israel) f---ing dominate everything."
Ahenakew said the Canadian army was trying to liberate the world when it fought in Europe during the Second World War, not liberate Jews. When reminded the Nazis committed genocide against a variety of ethnic and social groups, he said "exactly, they were trying to clean up the world."
"I don't support Hitler. But he cleaned up a hell of a lot of things, didn't he? You would be owned by the Jews right now the world over. Look, a small, little country (Israel) like that and everyone supports them. Who the hell owns many of the banks in the states, many of the corporations? Look at here in Canada. Izzy Asper (chair of CanWest Global, the owner of The StarPhoenix). He controls the media. What the hell does that tell you? That's power. That's f---ing power."
Ahenakew, who was FSIN chief from 1968-78 and AFN chief from 1982-85, grew impatient when told non-Jews own media companies, as well.
"The hell with the Jews. I can't stand them. And that's it. I don't want to talk about them."
FSIN vice-chief Lawrence Joseph sat at the conference's head table while Ahenakew gave his speech.
After hearing a tape recording of the interview, Joseph said the conference was about government oppression, not about the war or the Jews.
"Whatever he says personally is an opinion as a war veteran. He has that right. Similar to (Saskatoon MP) Jim Pankiw (who has sent out controversial pamphlets on Indian issues); he's entitled to an opinion, negative or otherwise."
Joseph said Ahenakew is an unelected official who does not speak for the FSIN. All former FSIN chiefs are eligible to become lifetime senators should they choose with the organization.
"It depends on how it's packaged," Joseph said when asked whether he thought Ahenakew's comments would be damaging to the federation.
"If the headline is superseding a very important event about consent (forms), it's up to you to do that."
FSIN chief Perry Bellegarde, who did not attend the conference, also stressed Ahenakew was not an elected official.
"It's not an official position of anybody except Dave Ahenakew. That's where it rests. He's entitled to his opinion. We, as indigenous peoples, are fighting for our survival. We also push peaceful co-existence between our peoples and everybody else."
When asked if he feels comfortable having Ahenakew represent the FSIN at public functions, Bellegarde said, "you're the guy writing this. Don't quote him."
Roger Pavey, a retired rabbi and a university lecturer, said Ahenakew's comments are especially unfortunate because many Jewish people are supporters of First Nations people and "their claims and demands."
"It's up to them as to who they want as their leaders. It's unfortunate he has those opinions and I wish he didn't. I hope he isn't representative of the Native leadership. I don't think he is."
Ahenakew, the father of FSIN vice-chief Greg Ahenakew, is renowned in the Indian political world for his blunt talk.
In his speech, he criticized the provincial auditor for demanding better management at the Saskatchewan Indian Gaming Authority (SIGA). In his fall report released Thursday, Fred Wendel said SIGA hasn't done enough to clean up its business practices.
"They don't give a sh*t about you," Ahenakew said of the report.
"You (First Nations people) spent your tax money building the Regina and Moose Jaw casinos (which are owned by the province). They used your money. How much did they spend creating our casinos? Not one bloody penny. And yet they say the money is theirs right from the word go, that it's public money and we have to account to them. What kind of bullshit is that? We don't even have to talk to these suckers."
Ahenakew told the gathering he has warned provincial officials that "40 years down the road, we're going to be taking over (because of population growth among Indian people). We're going to be the government. You (non-Indians) are going to be the Indians and we're going to be the bosses. And you (the government) better start preparing right now."
He also complained about bigotry in city schools.
"My great grandson goes to school here in Saskatoon. These goddamned immigrants -- East Indians, Pakistanis, Afghanistan, whites and so forth -- call him a dirty little Indian. He's the cleanest of the whole goddamn works there. That's what I'm saying. It's starting right there, at six years old."
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2002-12-16 21:45 | User Profile
"The hell with the Jews. I can't stand them. And that's it. I don't want to talk about them."
Roger Pavey, a retired rabbi and a university lecturer, said Ahenakew's comments are especially unfortunate because many Jewish people are supporters of First Nations people and "their claims and demands."
So one of your methodically embittered brown tools has smelled the coffee and spewed some of the bile heretofore reserved for the Whitey into your hook-snouted face, eh, beanie baby? The tom-tom beating ingrate!.
An Injun with far bigger balls than weepy p-ssy Trent Lott.
2002-12-16 23:19 | User Profile
Great post :D
2002-12-16 23:29 | User Profile
He's got bigger balls because he realized he doesn't need to curry favor with the aliens to go on about his life. Unlike Lott, who bows before the media gods begging forgiveness for statements that need no explanation. If Lott and his ilk realized that neither they nor the rest of the country needs the jews, just like Ahenakew above, then things would start to improve. But no, in DC, money talks, and bullshit walks. For now.
2002-12-17 09:58 | User Profile
Trent Lott would put on a Kleagle robe in Macy's window before he'd ever breathe a single word against the Jew. He might rail against 'liberalism', but at the end of the day, it was always 'YES' on Israel & the Jewish Agenda for Sen Lott.
As always, a lifetime of submissive servitude to Jews earned him nothing - no protection, no favor, no quarter. And no self-respect.
The Indian's got stones Trent Lott hasn't grown yet.
2002-12-17 14:11 | User Profile
**During his wide-ranging speech, in which he complained about bigotry in Canadian society, accused the media of creating racial conflict and continually referred to non-Indian Canadians as "immigrants," Ahenakew said he lived in Germany during the late 1950s when he was with the Canadian army. **
He's absolutely right, of course.
The continent belonged to his ancestors, and then massive foreign immigration of an alien race killed and disposessed them. The Indian wars should really be called in the modern parlance "anti-immigrant violence" (as VDARE pointed out).
It's a lesson for all of us. If we whites whites don't want to be disposessed and slaughtered like the Indians, we'd better seal the borders.
I like this guy.
For the record, I favor a generous, final settlement with the Indians. I grew up in Wisconsin with lots of Indians, and generally liked them (just don't ever let them drink anywhere near you - important safety tip from Walter). They really did get the big screw, and I certainly recognize their right to maintain their identity here.
Walter
2002-12-17 22:45 | User Profile
If only white people would stand up for themselves like every other race does.
2002-12-18 04:08 | User Profile
My Bible-thumping aunt married a Cherokee in the still race conscious atmosphere of the early '50s (an act for which I've come to have contempt for her). I liked him and their kids quite a lot. He never once spewed any anti-White bitterness or tried to lay a guilt trip on anyone. He became a preacher, but damn if she isn't the one who never shuts up about Jeesus. Their great-grandchildren are only 1/8th Indian, but they look full-blooded. I know from first-hand experience that miscegenation causes Whiteness to disappear forever.
This aunt is the one I mentioned at the old Sam Francis forum who said "Oh, I just love Mexicans! I want them to join our church!"
She seems to have an affinity for anything brown.
2002-12-18 08:42 | User Profile
N.B. Forrest Posted on Dec 16 2002, 15:45
**So one of your methodically embittered brown tools has smelled the coffee and spewed some of the bile heretofore reserved for the Whitey into your hook-snouted face, eh, beanie baby? The tom-tom beating ingrate!.
An Injun with far bigger balls than weepy p-ssy Trent Lott. **
Yes, but olfactory prowess alone did not account for the ââ¬Åsenatorââ¬â¢sââ¬Â awakening; it took German tutelage and a trip to Egypt, where he had the opportunity to witness the Jewsââ¬â¢ handy work, for him to arrive at something nearing proper perspective 50 years later.
The comedy has now made the front page of at least one of Canuckistanââ¬â¢s national papers, and the attorney general of the province has ordered the Mounties to launch an investigation. This itself is a comedy since, as the rag properly points out, the statements constitute a prima fecia evidence of hate crime. I.e., seeing that they were made in a public forum and have been recorded, the Injun, absence a successful insanity defence, will spend time in a jail cell. He has balls, yes, but in Oceania it is the presence of marbles that keep a manââ¬Â¦ free. ;)
I am guessing that the AG would not waste the Mountiesââ¬â¢ time and intends to prosecute. If so, he and his motivators (the Izzy rag kindly provided their names: Bââ¬â¢nai Brith & Canadian Jewish Congress) have, not for the first time, failed to think things through.
Unlike the thought crime trial of a certain non-charismatic Canadian citizen of German extraction (and accent) with limited support, resources and sympathy, this carnival has the potential to generate widespread empathy for the accused. Here we have a former member of the armed forces, a senior citizen, a recipient of the Order of Canada, and a member of the countryââ¬â¢s most cherished disadvantaged group ââ¬â an Aboriginal, and a senator, albeit of an insignificant band in a no more significant province.
To get a proper perspective of the countryââ¬â¢s devotion to the welfare of this group, imagine a people who combine the Negroââ¬â¢s poverty and incarceration rates (since most choose to reside on reservations this is largely for crimes against their own), the Jewish history of ââ¬Åprosecution,ââ¬Â and the Palestinian injustice of displacement. It is a safe assumption that the average white citizenââ¬â¢s guilt for these people knows no bounds, and now one of their heretofore most honourable members will be prosecuted for a hate ââ¬â white manââ¬â¢s ââ¬â crime. The rank and file Injun knows nothing of Jews and Whites, but he knows plenty of white manââ¬â¢s historical and ongoing crimes against his people, for he has had a good education (both real and imaginary).
What is more, unless the man does serious time, the government risks seeing the pertinent criminal code sections loose their bite, and, consequently, their chief club for white thought criminals. Make no mistake, there are men serving time for uttering/scribbling but a fraction of what the Injun enunciated at length.
BTW, if the story loses traction for whatever reason (lack of evidence, maybe :lol: ), you will know that second thoughts were had. Otherwise, stay tuned for entertainment is sure to follow!
2002-12-18 09:26 | User Profile
**Walter Yannis Posted on Dec 17 2002, 08:11
For the record, I favor a generous, final settlement with the Indians. I grew up in Wisconsin with lots of Indians, and generally liked them (just don't ever let them drink anywhere near you - important safety tip from Walter). They really did get the big screw, and I certainly recognize their right to maintain their identity here. **
At times feel the same, but, then again, ââ¬Åwhat is history but the obituary of nations.ââ¬Â A settlement would work if actual territory were carved up into fully independent nations. Another Nunavut is no solution (For reference, see the fiscal history of the recently created nearly all-Indian territory of Nunavut. Briefly: 91% of budgetary expenditures come from Ottawa and the percentage increases yearly ââ¬â the cost of maintaining some semblance of civilization, and to impress the Queen when she pops in).
The difficulty would come afterwards, for I doubt that their ââ¬Åcountryââ¬Â would remain a viable technological civilization without continuous assistance and, admittedly, exploitation by a neighbouring white state, and resentment would follow. As a youth I counted Karl Mayââ¬â¢s works among my favourites, but observation and experience cured me of any residual ââ¬Ånoble savageââ¬Â notions.
But fear not, the Indians are far from extinct, as evidenced by their prodigious fecundity in Saskatchewan (the venue for the coming carnival) where they are projected to surpass the 50% mark within two decades. The extinction/displacement and appalling miscegenation rates of Aryans are my concern.
2002-12-18 13:33 | User Profile
But fear not, the Indians are far from extinct, as evidenced by their prodigious fecundity in Saskatchewan (the venue for the coming carnival) where they are projected to surpass the 50% mark within two decades. The extinction/displacement and appalling miscegenation rates of Aryans are my concern
I don't know about Canadian tribes but in America full blooded or so called pure Indians are almost non existent.
My father's doctor professes to be an Indian. I was shocked when I met her because she looks just like any negro woman one passes on the street.
Those Buffalo soldiers must have been doing a lot more than just fighting the Indians.
2002-12-18 22:41 | User Profile
Originally posted by N.B. Forrest@Dec 17 2002, 22:08 Their great-grandchildren are only 1/8th Indian, but they look full-blooded. I know from first-hand experience that miscegenation causes Whiteness to disappear forever.
Races on Earth are like watercolors: you cannot create white, you can only preserve it. And if you mix all the colors together, all you're left with is a yucky light brown.
2002-12-18 23:05 | User Profile
The poor outspoken native, Mr Ahenakew has been forced to apologize to the jews for the remarks he has made and it just goes to show what power these diabolical SOBs have on this planet.
[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2585629.stm]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2585629.stm[/url]
Just as Marlon Brando had to apologize for telling the truth about the jews owning Hollowwood, so has everyone who does not want to be imprisioned, blackballed, or sued into poverty......what more evidence do we need?
2003-01-10 01:10 | User Profile
Here is the latest proposal on how to finalize the Ahenakew affair. This resolution has a good chance of being accepted and I cannot help but be both aghast and humbled by its craftiness. Aghast because it will have the effect of dispatching the Injun without incurring native wrath while avoiding blunting existing thought crime legislation enacted for the purpose of hammering white brutes. Humbled because I did not even think of the option of employing the de facto ââ¬Åparallel justice systemââ¬Â that exists for the exclusive benefit of native Indians and serves as a reminder to others of their second-class status. * [SIZE=3] Native justice proposed for Ahenakew[/SIZE]*
Healing circle
Sarah Schmidt
Thursday, January 09, 2003
A leading Canadian Jewish organization has proposed halting the hate-crimes investigation into the anti-Semitic comments of a prominent aboriginal leader if he agrees to participate in healing and sentencing circles.
Leaders of B'nai Brith Canada and the Assembly of First Nations said yesterday that native restorative justice is preferable to criminal proceedings in the Ahenakew affair.
Last month, David Ahenakew, former chief of the Assembly of First Nations and the Federation of Saskatchewan Indian Nations, referred to the Jewish people as a "disease" and said Hitler was right when he "fried" six million Jews.
Chris Axworthy, the Attorney-General of Saskatchewan, asked the RCMP to investigate after B'nai Brith complained to him that Mr. Ahenakew's Dec. 13 rant constituted a hate crime. On Monday, officers in the hate crime division seized a notebook and audiotape from a local reporter as part of the investigation. Frank Dimant, executive vice-president of B'nai Brith Canada, said the organization will let the Saskatchewan Justice know of its reversal "to ensure that the sentencing procedures and the healing process of the aboriginal people be the one that is pursued in this case.
"If [Mr. Ahenakew] is in agreement, we will do whatever we can to ensure that the Saskatchewan legal system takes note of our collective desires on this."
A sentencing circle is usually led by elders, who decide on a punishment to restore balance and harmony in a relationship. In a healing circle, the offender speaks directly with victims. In this case, it could mean Holocaust survivors and Jewish leaders.
"Mr. Ahenakew has indicated very clearly his remorse. That's the first step," Perry Bellegarde, Grand Chief of the Federation of Saskatchewan Indian Nations, said yesterday. "He's accepted that responsibility for his actions, for his words ... Now the Jewish community, B'nai Brith, has said maybe there's an alternative to continue that healing, rather than going down that justice system that we don't think works for us. . ."
*Recidivism rates for Indian criminals say otherwise, but I suspect that ââ¬Åwhat doesnââ¬â¢t work for usââ¬Â has a different meaning for both Khazars and Injuns. *
To view the entire article: [url=http://www.nationalpost.com/home/story.html?id={65E20561-35A1-4F06-ADB2-87FB78A1190B}]national_post[/url]
2003-01-10 05:55 | User Profile
Typical of the zhid weasels to go easy on one of their brown attack dogs when he bites the hand that feeds: musn't be so vindictive that they anger the other pit bulls in their kennel. Far better to play the Compassionate Hebrew if he whimpers & puts his tail between his legs in remorse.
But when Whitey dares to raise so much as a peep against them, well now, it's destroy the filthy goy bastid!