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Thread ID: 3983 | Posts: 8 | Started: 2002-12-12
2002-12-12 23:27 | User Profile
I've heard from American ex-pats in Venezuela that Chávez is about to commence a civil war against the Venezuelan people. He reportedly has brought in approximately 6,000 Cuban troops as well as several companies of combat-experienced Colombian FARC guerrillas dressed in Venezuela army uniforms. On the other side are unarmed civilians and anti-Chávez factions of the ragtag Veneuzuelan army, with no known international support.
The vast majority of Venezuelans support the ongoing general strike against the Chávez regime. The situation has reached its current state of chaos because Chávez has ruined the country's economy for the benefit of a privileged elite. Despite high oil prices, GNP has fallen substantially over the past four years under Chávez, and most people are either unemployed or severely underemployed. Meanwhile, Chávez and his cronies and generals have exported billions of dollars for personal investments around the world.
Besides oil, the other main source of income for Chávez and his friends has been the Colombian drug business. FARC have been using Venezuela as a staging area for the international shipment of drugs, with full protection by the Venezuelan government, which supplies them with armaments. Crime is out of control in Caracas, and much of it is caused by Colombian immigrants.
Peaceful protests against the government have been attacked by paid, government thugs, and the National Guard has shot demonstrators on two occasions this week. Meanwhile, the US media -- notably CNN -- have been broadcasting government lies as fact. They support Chávez since he purports to be a communist.
Without assistance from the US -- now preoccupied with bombing Iraq, it appears that the Cubans are going to prevail. With far left-wing governments about to take over Brazil and Ecuador, Venezuela could easily serve as the Cubans' first domino in South America.
2002-12-13 00:34 | User Profile
Excellent post HQZ, and quite frightening for the ordinary people in Venezuela and the world at large. I've been following the story in VZ, and South America at large, and I find the United States is to blame for some of it, maybe most of it. Iraq doesn't pose 1/1,000,000 of a threat to the US as Castro, Chavez and all the Marxist filth penetrating Latin America today. China is patiently waiting for these regimes to come begging for help, and in return, set up Chinese military staging areas in their respective countries, for you know what. The USA is in deep doo-doo.... but, oh, right, Trent Lott is now the distraction du jour for the lemmings.
2002-12-13 04:35 | User Profile
hqz,
Thanks for Report.
2002-12-13 16:07 | User Profile
HQZ.....great report. My years of living in South America have taught me one thing and that is where goes Brazil, so goes all of South America. American buiness interest has built the foundation for most of those Banana Republics under the direction of the Black and Bronfman familes of fruit and loom fame. The situation today is that there are more powerful interest that have greater stakes in the future and we should see some radical reforms coming our way over the next 12 months.
2002-12-14 22:44 | User Profile
With all due respect fellas, I think you have it all wrong on Chavez. I like the guy. Here's a link to an article Raimondo wrote a couple of years ago that did much to shape my thinking on the subject:
[url=http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j010501.html]The New Bolivar: Hugo Chavez and the Rise of Pan-American Nationalism[/url]
I do not believe that Chavez is a Marxist. That's just a loaded propaganda label used by the media anyway. I do believe that he is a nationalist. After seeing how the mainstream press reports on the slightest political gain by men like LePen, Haider and Blocher, what would make you believe anything written about Chavez in those same media outlets?
Many here cry about what has happened in Argentina, yet Chavez is trying to resist the international bankers that raped that country. I think he has cozied up with Castro and the like, not because he is a communist, but rather because he likes to poke a finger in the eye of American government and financial interests. You gotta admire that.
2002-12-15 00:08 | User Profile
I'm with TD on this one. Anybody remember that coup they had in Venezuela against Chavez--the one that failed? The US (CIA) was behind that one--the US wants Chavez out. The American Establishment, the Bush Administration, and the megacorporations and the like aren't big fans of Chavez. That makes me a Chavez fan. I hope he sticks it to the U.S. like there's no tomorrow and reminds those fools on the Potomac that national sovereignty still means a thing or two in this world.
2002-12-15 02:15 | User Profile
Agree with you & Tex. More on this at:
[url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=4902]http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php...t=ST&f=4&t=4902[/url]
Sorry but if the CIA and all major Venezuelan media are unanimous on this I have to assume Chavez is okay, or at least worthy of paying respectful attention to. Pay particular attention to how Chavez supporters are depicted in Venezuelan media: as uneducated, backward rabble, likened to Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy and the Taliban.
The last time I read things like that in the newspaper, they were talking about people like me and you (Red and Blue maps of America).
2002-12-15 06:15 | User Profile
I have to disagree, Chavez is no Good. Just because Jorge the Bushie does not like him does not mean he is any good. I think xmetalhead got it about right. Chavez is no Nationalist. But Remember the yuppie class of Venezuela wants to sell out Venezuela to the Globalist and the NWO sadly. Chavez is still no Good. Bad all the way around. Juan Peron starting to look good about now.
...one thing that does stand out clearly to my simple mind is that supporters of Chavez are clearly low class blacks, mestizos, indians, etc, while the anti-Chavez forces are the "White", middle class populace. Just like Castro in Cuba, Chavez in VZ. Like the White Cubans who fled en masse from Castro's hell-hole in the 60's, the White Venezuelans have the most to lose with their filthy commie dictator in power. Chavez, true to his Marxist beliefs, has clearly fomented class warfare within his country. The end result is going to be Hell on earth for those left...-xmetalhead