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2002-12-03 04:30 | User Profile
[url=http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news/story.jsp?floc=FF-APO-1110&idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20021202%2F221656254.htm&sc=1110]Ore. Gov. Apologizes for Sterilizations[/url]
By BRAD CAIN
SALEM, Ore. (AP) - Gov. John Kitzhaber formally apologized Monday for Oregon's past eugenics law that led to the forced sterilization of hundreds of people.
Girls in reform school, people in mental institutions and poor women selected by welfare workers were among the more than 2,500 Oregonians subjected to sterilizations under a law that stood from 1917 to 1983.
To those who suffered, I say the people of Oregon are sorry,'' Kitzhaber said during a ceremony in the governor's office.Our hearts are heavy for the pain you endured.''
He is the second governor to atone for state eugenics laws after Virginia Gov. Mark Warner, who also erected a memorial in May to the first woman sterilized under the policy.
Among the dozens of people who crowded into Kitzhaber's office for Monday's ceremony was Velma Haynes, 68, who was sterilized at age 15 while living at the Fairview Training Center, a state-run institution for the mentally ill and retarded.
Haynes called the state's acknowledgment of wrongdoing ``long overdue,'' but praised Kitzhaber's effort to make things right.
I want to thank you for taking the time to apologize,'' Haynes told the governor.Your apology is appreciated and accepted.''
Not everyone was satisfied. Ken Newman, 61, who said he was given a vasectomy without his consent when he was a teen living at Fairview, said the governor's remarks don't erase what happened.
I want more than an apology. I want to be compensated,'' Newman said. The law was based on the pseudoscientific movement that sought to prevent people consideredunfit'' or ``defective'' from having children. After 1967, the Oregon law was chiefly used to sterilize those with mental illness or mental disability.
12/02/02 22:15
2002-12-03 04:34 | User Profile
Eugenics Programs: Needed Now More than Ever
by Walter Nowotny
from: [url=http://www.whitecivilrights.com]http://www.whitecivilrights.com[/url]
State workers in Oregon are reportedly shredding papers that document the extent of their eugenics program. It seems a lot of people are "ashamed" that many states once had programs designed to improve their populations by sterilizing people with congenital defects, whose offspring would likely be burdens on society. Making applied eugenics the law of the land was a good idea back then and it is a good idea now. Our society today has millions of mentally retarded and a significant percentage of them have committed violent felonies. There are two million people in federal and local prisons in America. (Ref. 1) A large number of these inmates may be genetically predisposed to commit crimes. The sterilization of these criminals may save millions of innocent Americans from becoming victimized by their future offspring. Perhaps the time has come for state initiatives supporting eugenics to bypass the gutless politicians and to put into effect the will of the American people.
Charles Murray and Richard Herrnstein co-wrote The Bell Curve which documented how our welfare programs allow the less capable to outbreed the more capableââ¬âat taxpayer expense. This has a dysgenic effect over the generations, increasingly downbreeding our population, diminishing the net pool of intelligence, creativity, and general stamina available to our society.
Some misguided religious people oppose sterilization. These individuals are much like the medieval bishops, who thought the world was flat and who opposed modern astronomy. They oppose eugenic sterilization for reasons that have no real basis in the Bible. Christians have an obligation to make the world a better place. Filling the world up with mentally retarded people and felons is not doing the work of the Lord.
Those who elevate equality over quality dominate our society. Egalitarianism is the worst of the superstitions that grip modern man. These egalitarians scorn every potential source of enlightenment and advancement that our scientific acumen makes available. They oppose historical revisionism, racial science, eugenics, genetic engineering and cloning.
Opponents of eugenics invariably point to Germany and World War Two as their excuse for avoiding a serious discussion on this topic. Germany, however, produced the jet engine technology that is used by all our commercial airplanes. Would these opponents of eugenics travel exclusively by bus or train because jet engine technology is "evil" since a government that they dislike produced it?
Besides, Germany was actually a latecomer to applied eugenics. America had eugenic sterilization programs beginning in Indiana in 1907. These programs sterilized "more than 40,000 people classed as insane or 'feebleminded' in 30 states by 1944. Another 22,000 underwent sterilization between the mid-1940s and 1963.ââ¬Â (Ref. 2) Unfortunately, this is a relatively small number of sterilizations. An equal number of mentally retarded people probably immigrate illegally to the U.S. every year. In order for a eugenics program to be truly effective, it has to sterilize all the mentally retarded and violent felons and immigration must keep out any similarly defective types.
The bottom line in America is that the Jewish media and our politicians want unintelligent Americans. The Democrats rely on the existence of millions of people gullible enough to believe their outrageous and increasingly frequent lies. The Jews don't want Gentiles, who are intelligent enough to discover their control of the media and the two party system. The Jews privately call Gentiles "Goyim" (stupid cattle). This is how they view us and how they want us to be.
The U.S. Supreme Court, before the Left later captured it, affirmed the Constitutionality of state eugenics programs. Oliver Wendell Holmes in 1926 wrote the Court decision in Buck v. Bell, "It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind."
References:
1).U.S. Prison Population Rising [url=http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/prisons000420.html]http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNew...sons000420.html[/url]
2).U.S. Eugenics [url=http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/dailynews/eugenics_000214.html]http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/dai...ics_000214.html[/url]
2002-12-03 16:51 | User Profile
So Paleo, what's your take on the whole eugenics thing? Think it will help improve the quality of the white race, the races as a whole, or what?
2002-12-03 17:47 | User Profile
Here's the weird thing: America is getting more individualist and more collectivist at the same time. Nobody had a problem in the past with the right of society to sterilize those deemed 'defective' (a collectivist action) at the same there was much more personal freedom with its attendent responsiblity. Today there are all kinds of restrictions of one's rights to do as one pleases, yet the individual is held to be 'sacred' enough that society wouldn't claim the right to forcibly sterilize.
So, it looks like we have the worst of individualism and the worst of collectivism.
Just a thought.
2002-12-03 17:54 | User Profile
Originally posted by kminta@Dec 3 2002, 12:51 So Paleo, what's your take on the whole eugenics thing? Think it will help improve the quality of the white race, the races as a whole, or what?
The Nowotny article reflects my views. I think eugenic practices can improve whatever race chooses to adopt them. Some say that's how the Jews became as advanced as they did.
2002-12-03 18:47 | User Profile
Eugenics has long been practiced in human history and by animals. The ancient Greeks killed babies deemed unfit by them. Even today in India and China young girls are routinely killed. American Blacks have long had their suspicions about eugenics and Margaret Sanger.
[url=http://blackgenocide.org/sanger.html[/url]]http://blackgenocide.org/sanger.html[/url][/url]
**How Planned Parenthood Duped America
At a March 1925 international birth control gathering in New York City, a speaker warned of the menace posed by the "black" and "yellow" peril. The man was not a Nazi or Klansman; he was Dr. S. Adolphus Knopf, a member of Margaret Sanger's American Birth Control League (ABCL), which along with other groups eventually became known as Planned Parenthood.
Sanger's other colleagues included avowed and sophisticated racists. One, Lothrop Stoddard, was a Harvard graduate and the author of The Rising Tide of Color against White Supremacy. Stoddard was something of a Nazi enthusiast who described the eugenic practices of the Third Reich as "scientific" and "humanitarian." And Dr. Harry Laughlin, another Sanger associate and board member for her group, spoke of purifying America's human "breeding stock" and purging America's "bad strains." These "strains" included the "shiftless, ignorant, and worthless class of antisocial whites of the South."
Not to be outdone by her followers, Margaret Sanger spoke of sterilizing those she designated as "unfit," a plan she said would be the "salvation of American civilization.: And she also spike of those who were "irresponsible and reckless," among whom she included those " whose religious scruples prevent their exercising control over their numbers." She further contended that "there is no doubt in the minds of all thinking people that the procreation of this group should be stopped." That many Americans of African origin constituted a segment of Sanger considered "unfit" cannot be easily refuted.
While Planned Parenthood's current apologists try to place some distance between the eugenics and birth control movements, history definitively says otherwise. The eugenic theme figured prominently in the Birth Control Review, which Sanger founded in 1917. She published such articles as "Some Moral Aspects of Eugenics" (June 1920), "The Eugenic Conscience" (February 1921), "The purpose of Eugenics" (December 1924), "Birth Control and Positive Eugenics" (July 1925), "Birth Control: The True Eugenics" (August 1928), and many others.
These eugenic and racial origins are hardly what most people associate with the modern Planned Parenthood Federation of America (PPFA), which gave its Margaret Sanger award to the late Dr. Martin Luther King in 1966, and whose current president, Faye Wattleton, is black, a former nurse, and attractive.
Though once a social pariah group, routinely castigated by religious and government leaders, the PPFA is now an established, high-profile, well-funded organization with ample organizational and ideological support in high places of American society and government. Its statistics are accepted by major media and public health officials as "gospel"; its full-page ads appear in major newspapers; its spokespeople are called upon to give authoritative analyses of what America's family policies should be and to prescribe official answers that congressmen, state legislator and Supreme Court justiices all accept as "social orthodoxy."
Blaming Families
Sanger's obsession with eugenics can be traced back to her own family. One of 11 children, she wrote in the autobiographical book, My Fight for Birth Control, that "I associated poverty, toil, unemployment, drunkenness, cruelty, quarreling, fighting, debts, jails with large families." Just as important was the impression in her childhood of an inferior family status, exacerbated by the iconoclastic, "free-thinking" views of her father, whose "anti-Catholic attitudes did not make for his popularity" in a predominantly Irish community.
The fact that the wealthy families in her hometown of Corning, N.Y., had relatively few children, Sanger took as prima facie evidence of the impoverishing effect of larger families. The personal impact of this belief was heightened 1899, at the age of 48. Sanger was convinced that the "ordeals of motherhood" had caused the death of her mother. The lingering consumption (tuberculosis) that took her mother's life visited Sanger at the birth of her own first child on Nov. 18, 1905. The diagnosis forced her to seek refuge in the Adirondacks to strengthen her for the impending birth. Despite the precautions, the birth of baby Grant was "agonizing," the mere memory of which Sanger described as "mental torture" more than 25 years later. She once described the experience as a factor "to be reckoned with" in her zealous campaign for birth control.
From the beginning, Sanger advocacy of sex education reflected her interest in population control and birth prevention among the "unfit." Her first handbook, published for adolescents in 1915 and entitled, What Every Boy and Girl Should Know, featured a jarring afterword:
It is a vicious cycle; ignorance breeds poverty and poverty breeds ignorance. There is only one cure for both, and that is to stoop breeding these things. Stop bringing to birth children whose inheritance cannot be one of health or intelligence. Stop bringing into the world children whose parents cannot provide for them.
To Sanger, the ebbing away of moral and religious codes over sexual conduct was a natural consequence of the worthlessness of such codes in the individual's search for self-fulfillment. "Instead of laying down hard and fast rules of sexual conduct," Sanger wrote in her 1922 book Pivot of Civilization, "sex can be rendered effective and valuable only as it meets and satisfies the interests and demands of the pupil himself." Her attitude is appropriately described as libertinism, but sex knowledge was not the same as individual liberty, as her writings on procreation emphasized.
The second edition of Sanger's life story, An Autobiography, appeared in 1938. There Sanger described her first cross-country lecture tour in 1916. Her standard speech asserted seven conditions of life that "mandated" the use of birth control: the third was "when parents, though normal, had subnormal children"; the fourth, "when husband and wife were adolescent"; the fifth, "when the earning capacity of the father was inadequate." No right existed to exercise sex knowledge to advance procreation. Sanger described the fact that "anyone, no matter how ignorant, how diseased mentally or physically, how lacking in all knowledge of children, seemed to consider he or she had the right to become a parent."**
Planned Parenthood responds
[url=http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about/thisispp/sanger.html]http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about/thi...spp/sanger.html[/url]
** Through the years, a number of alleged Sanger quotations, or allegations about her, have surfaced with regularity in anti-family planning publications. The following are samples of especially pernicious distortions, misattributions, or outright lies that Margaret Sanger's enemies continue to circulate. "More children from the fit, less from the unfit áX that is the chief issue in birth control." A quotation falsely attributed to Margaret Sanger, this statement was made by the editors of American Medicine in a review of an article by Sanger. The editorial from which this appeared, as well as Sanger's article, "Why Not Birth Control Clinics in America?" (1919b), were reprinted side-by-side in the May 1919 Birth Control Review. "The mass of ignorant Negroes still breed carelessly and disastrously, so that the increase among Negroes, even more than the increase among whites, is from that portion of the population least intelligent and fit, and least able to rear their children properly." Another quotation falsely attributed to Margaret Sanger, this was actually written for the June 1932 issue of The Birth Control Review by W.E.B. DuBois, founder of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP). Taken out of the context of his discussion about the effects of birth control on the balance between quality-of-life considerations and race-survival issues for African-Americans, Dubois' language seems insensitive by today's standards. "Blacks, soldiers, and Jews are a menace to the race." This fabricated quotation, falsely attributed to Sanger, was concocted in the late 1980s. The alleged source is the April 1933 Birth Control Review (Sanger ceased editing the Review in 1929). That issue contains no article or letter by Sanger. "To create a race of thoroughbreds. . ." This remark, again attributed originally to Sanger, was made by Dr. Edward A. Kempf and has been cited out of context and with distorted meaning. Dr. Kempf, a progressive physician, was actually arguing for state endowment of maternal and infant care clinics. In her book The Pivot of Civilization, Sanger quoted Dr. Kempf's argument about how environment may improve human excellence: Society must make life worth the living and the refining for the individual by conditioning him to love and to seek the love-object in a manner that reflects a constructive effect upon his fellow-men and by giving him suitable opportunities. The virility of the automatic apparatus is destroyed by excessive gormandizing or hunger, by excessive wealth or poverty, by excessive work or idleness, by sexual abuse or intolerant prudishness. The noblest and most difficult art of all is the raising of human thoroughbreds (1969). It was in this spirit that Sanger used the phrase, "Birth Control: To Create a Race of Thoroughbreds," as a banner on the November 1921 issue of the Birth Control Review. (Differing slogans on the theme of voluntary family planning sometimes appeared under the title of The Review, e.g., "Dedicated to the Cause of Voluntary Motherhood," January 1928.) **
When properly done by astute people such as members of this forum, eugenics has its place.