← Autodidact Archive · Original Dissent · Walter Yannis
Thread ID: 3749 | Posts: 8 | Started: 2002-11-29
2002-11-29 12:02 | User Profile
There seems to be something of an anti-Irish campaign in the Israeli press.
This article appeared in the [url=http://web.israelinsider.com/bin/en.jsp?enPage=ViewsPage&enDisplay=view&enDispWhat=object&enDispWho=Article%5El1502&enVersion=0&enZone=Views]Israel Insider[/url]
There is a Free Republic thread on it [url=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/797512/posts]HERE.[/url]
It appears that an Irishman named O'Shea denied lodging to an Israeli named Bender in a (somewhat odd) display of solidarity with the Palestinians, and this non-event has caused much consternation among my Elder Brothers in Faith.
The Zionist Freepers really have it in for the poor Irish. They just can't forgive a Lilliputian country like the fledgling Republic of Ireland finding it wise to stay out of a street fight among giants. Check out the really awful stuff they say about Denmark - after the Danes' often heroic efforts on behalf of persecuted Jews living in Denmark. So much for being friendly with your friends.
Note also that not a word is said about official Israel's pooh-poohing the Armenian genocide at the behest of their strange bedfellow Turkey. This is a total double standard. Tiny and impoverished Ireland is condemned for not declaring war on the great world power Nazi Germany 60 years ago, but Israel is not taken to task for refusing even to say a word in memory of the one million Armenian Christians murdered by the Ottomans.
Enjoy!
Walter
By David Vance October 7, 2002
The dark shadow of anti-Semitism has been cast over Ireland once again. Arik Bender, an Israeli holidaymaker, was told that he and his family would not be welcome at the Killarney Lakeland cottages owned by Mr. Brian O'Shea. The reason given was that this was in protest at Israel's continued "occupation" of Palestine.
When this news broke Irish government officials quickly moved to apologize for the insult to Israeli holidaymakers. However several Irish people contacted Arik Bender to tell him that they fully supported the stance taken by Mr. O'Shea. Indeed, Maariv has reported Bender as saying that "The message I am getting from some people... is that there is no room for Jews in Ireland."
Boaz Rodkin, the deputy chief of mission at the Israeli embassy in Dublin commented that the affair carried disturbing echoes from 50 to 60 years ago when shop windows around Europe carried signs that read "No Jews or dogs allowed." Yet whilst this incident may shock, it cannot surprise.
Any Israeli tourist visiting Dublin this summer will have seen streets festooned with posters demanding that no action is taken against Iraq whilst simultaneously calling for the end of Israeli war crimes against Palestinians. It is "time to smash the Israeli war-machine," according to the propaganda posted on Irish walls.
The Ireland-Palestinian solidarity campaign has called for a boycott of Israeli goods "until an end to the illegal Israeli occupation has been achieved."
Irish priorities were flagged up last year when it volunteered to provide "sanctuary," (as the Irish Prime Minister put it) for two of the Palestinian terrorists released from the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem.
Irish Prime Minister, Bertie Ahern, made a number of statements about the plight of these "unfortunate hostages" and the appalling deprivation of their "human rights" by Israel.
Jihad Youssef Khalil Jaara is an operative both in the Hamas and Fatah Tanzim, according to Israeli police records. Jaara is accused of involvement in shooting attacks in the Jericho area, including the killing of Israeli officer Amir Zohar and a deadly shooting attack against a bus on the Jericho bypass road. On March 26, Jaara dispatched a suicide bomber in a failed attack near a shopping mall. In a BBC interview on March 30, Jaara spoke of his support for suicide bombings.
Rami Kamel Eid Kamel, a member of Tanzim, was one of the primary terrorists behind the shooting and mortar attacks against civilians in Gilo and took part in other fatal attacks. These two seasoned terrorists have received an effusive political welcome in their flight from justice. By contrast, the dead and wounded Israelis who were their victims were not afforded a second thought. This mirrors the way in which dead and wounded Protestants, victims of IRA violence, have been dismissed as an irritating inconvenience.
Why does Ireland exhibit such a pathological hatred for Israel?
Arik Bender almost hits the nail on the head when he says, "I don't know now what is going on in Ireland. Is it anti-Israel? Many people support the IRA in Ireland, and they support the Palestinians for the same reason, but the conflict here is not the same." Wrong, Mr. Bender, the conflict is identical.
Ireland has long given financial, logistical, moral and political support to the IRA. Years of sickening equivocation have resulted in Ireland losing the ability to distinguish between terrorist and those terrorized. The IRA seeks to remove Northern Ireland from the UK and is quite prepared to murder, maim and terrorize to obtain this outcome.
In the same way, the Palestinian desire to remove Israelis from their ancient land and drive them "into the sea" is supported by unrelenting terrorism. Ariel Sharon is portrayed as evil incarnate whilst Yasser Arafat is accepted as a voice for peace.
Much of the blame for this perversion of truth lies with the Irish media, which is overwhelmingly leftist. Blatant Palestinian propaganda is portrayed as hard fact.
This has led to the current situation in which the likes of Mr. O'Shea instinctively supports what he imagines is an oppressed Palestinian minority.
Ireland has to realize that the era of "No Jews or dogs" is past. It must stop pandering to terrorism and demonstrate it genuinely supports democrats. As George W. Bush puts it "If you are not with us, then you are against us."
We all know where Israel stands; it is time Ireland made its position clear. Views expressed by the author do not necessarily reflect those of israelinsider.
2002-11-29 12:23 | User Profile
The Zionist Freepers really have it in for the poor Irish.
Probably because FReepers don't like Catholics, Anglicans, Orthodox, or Reformation-era Protestants. Free Republic, as a microcosm of the GOP, is dominated now by dispensational evangelicals and right-wing Jews.
I imagine the Catholics in Ireland didn't take too kindly to seeing the Church of the Nativity desecrated. Furthermore, unlike the evangelicals who blabber about saving souls but don't lift a finger to exhibit a living faith of charity, Catholics, Anglicans, Orthodox, Lutherans, and Mennonites have extensive missions and relief efforts in the Middle East, so they get eyewitness reports of what's happening over there. Also, the European press is more honest about what's going on in Israel and Palestine than the American press, so the Irish are probably better informed.
2002-11-29 13:09 | User Profile
During the 30s there was an official German policy of public sympathy and solidarity with the Irish grievances against Britain...practically a Nazi outreach, which one must assume fostered some [quietly] reciprocal attitudes, at least until (but probably during as well) the War.
Combine the Jews' long long memory regarding every slight suffered with their recent propensity for using their media to try, and find guilty, every nation which failed to prevent Adolf Hitler from ever being born, and you might have your answer to "why" for articles like this.
PS: I looked over that FR thread. Is EVERY regular on that forum a smug, swaggering piece of sht? The way they reduce everyone and everything to sitcom-simplicity is almost as frightening as their MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE-style Zionist-tool indoctrination. Frankly, I'd be embarrassed* to even be an EX-regular at such a colic-baby daycare center. What goes through their minds, these 'conservative thinkers', when Their Hero is on tv, squinting like a goober and saying 'nucular' and 'misunderestimated'?
2002-11-29 14:58 | User Profile
PS: I looked over that FR thread. Is EVERY regular on that forum a smug, swaggering piece of sh*t? The way they reduce everyone and everything to sitcom-simplicity is almost as frightening as their MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE-style Zionist-tool indoctrination.
I know exactly what you mean.
FR presents the incongruous sight of goose-stepping Zionists.
FR has adopted the spirit of rigid, intolerant PeeCee.
Which of course indicates that the same ethnic feelings that animate PeeCee also animate Neoconservatism.
Walter
2002-11-29 15:07 | User Profile
Ready to book my Easter Holiday . . .
Always loved our many Irish Wolfhounds. Funny that the breed is not readily available on the Isle of Emerald where gems of all kind glow.
Doesn't get any better than Killarney. Will enjoy my stay at the Lakeland cottages owned by Mr. Brian O'Shea.
Anyone want to join?
SARTRE :ph34r:
2002-11-29 19:40 | User Profile
**Any Israeli tourist visiting Dublin this summer will have seen streets festooned with posters demanding that no action is taken against Iraq whilst simultaneously calling for the end of Israeli war crimes against Palestinians. It is "time to smash the Israeli war-machine," according to the propaganda posted on Irish walls. **
Propaganda? Sounds like an opionion. Israel has a huge war machine. They have nukes. If Iraq has a war machine Israel has a apocalyptic war machine. Wanting to smash Israel's war machine is as much an opinion as wanting to smash Iraq's. Storefront signs expressing this opinion is democracy at its finest. 24 hour cable news outlets expressing this opinion packaged as news is propaganda.
I have a question. Why isnt this guy being prosecuted by the state for discimination? How can you deny lodging based on race? You cant use your property as you wish in the most free nation on earth.
2002-12-01 16:53 | User Profile
Fascinating, colorful, pretty honest thread. As a genetic 'American' I'm a mixed bag, a milkshake of gene pools. I suppose if I weren't I'd wish I were, and since I am, I wish I weren't? I like them all separately, the German-Swiss, the 25% Irish from outside of Dublin, the French etc. on the Euopean side, etc. Then of course there's all of those genes from the equally troublesome, or more so, middle east... (which means doesn't it, that there's some oriental in that too?) I'm a mutt. Hemingway, for example, so did Joyce (right?) pointed out, in so many words reality in the world is a real duality to our own human experience, ying and yang, this and that, significant degrees of difference, that even though in a larger sense they may be one on the continuum, nonetheless to our human reality, shapes up as, or means war all the time.
And that even though Christianity perhaps admirably, suggests reality isn't that, or doesn't have to be that, all it really succeeds in doing is making people even more Unconscious about what they're doing Anyway. And in that sort of additional disconnect from reality, in the technological age, has made probably Western Civ. more dangerous (to itself) than it had ever been before. I've said this before, a Philistine is a (hypocrite) who doesn't know they are. That's why Western Civ. for instance is yet a philistine. (Look at America today, as its last shinning example? Of course the East, near, or middle east not so much better...or not so much worse?)
We're ALL hypocrites, inevitably...but metaphorically speaking it's a step Up, or an appropriate step down, to graduate from Philistine, to (conscious) hypocrite. The possibility of virtue, exists, sure...and it's so rare it's like catching a glimpse of Hamlet's departed father, isn't it? No doubt why we say hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue. And I would add, thank G-d of it?
...And I say this while Including & accepting & appreciating all of Western Civ.'s admirable qualities, rights, etc. as well... especially, if unwittingly, for having discovered and evolved toward embracing the fact that an appropriate degree of FREEDOM actaully exists in reality, and subsequently is valuable, in one form or another, in all societies. So what I'm also trying to say, is that when you're in a Christian or Western society, and let's say a mixed bag at the same time...part of you notices what's also always happening is for the most part of course Invevitably you're pitching the Philistines...
Remember they're the hypocrites, who don't yet know it. They actually 'believe' they're innocent, and there's no duality... (which although it's one, nonetheless is constantly at some level in war with itself), and thus constantly warring too with what seems, & is external etc. And since philistines are in the overwhelming-Overwhelming Majority, you have to pitch or talk to themselves "as if" what they believe on the other hand is not only true but is Actual as well.
However since what they want to believe runs contrary with the grain of reality itself (and thus perhaps even against G-d's will?) you on the other hand by simply standing on the shore tend to win, if you want to, when the tide rushes back in...through no fault per se, or out of any merit per se.
Then there are always a few Philistines who have graduated to being honest hypocrites, who more or Less notice themselves, and what seems to be going on... and sometimes they will leap to exaggerated or misguided conclusions. Another "as if" crops up for some of them as well... as if this weren't simply the way things are presently, the way it is presently, and there's some vast or pernicious 'conspiracy' going on.
Since there are different teams, and groups which of necessity must operate in their own behalf in every society, of course in that regard there's this or that so-called 'conspiracy' going on, all over the place, just like at the microcosmic level every so-called "individual" to some extent is their own conspiracy.
But there's no such conspiracy that can reach any ontological proportions, commensurate with what the human imagination itself is capable of. Even if say 9/11 were the orchestrated conspiracy of one of the more powerful teams in government, wishing to use (as reputedly was the case with a Pearl Harbor) managed chaos, for the purposes of moving the population in a direction, more advantageous to the specific orchestrating team, and perhaps even for the population being moved, itself-?-were actually the case, even that is just a sordid little conspiracy, existing only within its own context, for better or worse...
So to be honest, Christianity in a sense, in wanting to throw a wrench into the working(s) of reality...in order to perhaps shortcircuit things ('skyward', metaphorically speaking)...and thus in so doing is, and became a part of reality, NEVER displacing it, the question for non-Christians always became, so, what does this "mean"? In some ways in the above I've tried to show specifically....Non-specifically of course it means the human imagination is profound, and capable of believing what it WANTS to believe. And perhaps therefore what it Needs to believe?
Personally I believe that yes the duality exists and is also one...though tends, especially in human experience to manifest as being at war with itself...probably precisely because in this world & universe it is. Right now, invisibly since we're in cyber (you should see...) my right hand is battling with my left, they've both been meaning to discipline one another, though how can they, since the left doesn't know what the right is doing and versa-viceah... but apparently they're learning something??
2002-12-03 22:56 | User Profile
Hey man... re: our Irish pubs... NO Doggies, without they should be wearing bowTies... Or gibbons, without they should have a shave, looking like they was plucked chickens... Jews? crewCuts... and smooth backs... if not too expensive... maybe a waXing? (But no drinking parties for them...it could get ugly...)