← Autodidact Archive · Original Dissent · Happy Hacker
Thread ID: 3422 | Posts: 11 | Started: 2002-11-05
2002-11-05 21:18 | User Profile
FoxNews.com:
"WICHITA, Kan. ââ¬â Defense attorneys pleaded with jurors Tuesday to show mercy on two brothers who were convicted of five killings, including a quadruple murder of friends who were forced to engage in sex acts before each was shot in the head.
[url=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,69075,00.html]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,69075,00.html[/url]
CNN.com:
I couldn't find anything on the Carr Brothers conviction. But, CNN did find space for this "Top Story":
"WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Gay sheep that mate only with other rams have different brain structures from 'straight' sheep, a finding that may shed light on human sexuality, U.S. researchers said on Monday"
[url=http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/11/05/science.sheep.reut/index.html]http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/11/05...reut/index.html[/url]
I bet dollars to donuts that contrary to this CNN article, the f@ggot researchers behind the study won't push it as strong evidence of a biological cause of homosexuality. Also, contrary to CNN assurances, it will turn out that those queer sheep aren't so queer afterall. But, CNN is busy spreading lies for the benefit of homos (and blacks) while ignoring indisputable stories where whites are victims of horrific acts by blacks.
USAToday.com
I also didn't find anything on the Carr brothers, but the queer sheep story was on the front page:
"The study found that a cluster of cells in the preoptic hypothalamus, a region of the brain known to be involved in sexual behavior and partner preference, was larger in male-oriented rams than in female-oriented rams or in ewes. ... 'While it should not make a difference whether or not one's sexuality is biologically based, the radical right far too often uses the argument of 'sexuality is a choice that can be changed' to justify their calculated discrimination against the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community,' said Lorri Jean, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force. 'Any research suggesting that sexuality is not a choice will help to help defeat that mentality.'"
[url=http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-11-05-sheep-study_x.htm]http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-1...eep-study_x.htm[/url]
USA Today didn't quote any critics nor anyone who is part of the "radical right." The mere fact that USA Today says that this part of the brain is "known to be inovolved in ... partner preference" is nothing short of a confession that USA Today is publishing this story for purely propaganda purposes.
When this study is ripped to shreds, as every other biological-cause study on humans and animals have been, don't look for CNN or USA Today to tell the public. Also, I won't look to them to report what ever happened to that black women who thought so little of whites that she hit then hid a dying white man in her windshield in her garage rather than getting him help.
2002-11-05 22:18 | User Profile
Oh well, have have a few free moments, I'll go ahead and rip the study to shreds:
Speaking of rams that this research was done on. Neither CNN nor USA Today noted that male-mounting-male behavior among rams is commonly done in the struggle for rank and dominance -- nothing to do with either brain chemistry or sexual preference. A male mounting a male is just trying to prove himself the bigger, stronger, better male. To the top males goes the best selection of females.
If a ram doesn't mount females, it may be because of sexual dysfunction or lack of sex drive, not a preference for sex with males. The CNN article says of the the preoptic area of the hypothalamus, "The brain cells in this area also made greater amounts of an enzyme called aromatase in the heterosexual rams. Aromatase is involved in the action of testosterone, the so-called male hormone." An abnormally low output of an testosterone-related enzyme indicates dysfunction rather than a change in preference.
This should be enough to cast reasonable doubt on the queer sheep argument. I'd also like to point out two other things. First, this was done with male sheep only. It seems that nearly every attempted proof of a genetic cause of homosexuality is done only with males. Why is this? Do homosexuals not believe that female homosexuality is genetic? Why don't they just say so?
Also, how pathetic is it to try to justify human behavior with animal behavior? Sheep don't have religious direction to teach them to be heterosexual. They don't have the intellect to think about what they're doing. They don't have parents that can clearly explain relationships between the sexes. It's pretty impressive that bisexual behavior isn't more common among animals because they are just animals. Of course, if there were a homosexual gene it would be quickly eleminated (how do rams who don't mount females pass on their genes?).
Bottom line, f@ggots have no interest in the truth and this is just another example of how being "homosexual" is not about a same-sex preference.
2002-11-06 00:19 | User Profile
Originally posted by Happy Hacker@Nov 5 2002, 22:18 **Oh well, have have a few free moments, I'll go ahead and rip the study to shreds:
Speaking of rams that this research was done on. Neither CNN nor USA Today noted that male-mounting-male behavior among rams is commonly done in the struggle for rank and dominance -- nothing to do with either brain chemistry or sexual preference. A male mounting a male is just trying to prove himself the bigger, stronger, better male. To the top males goes the best selection of females. **
HH, your post is correct. The same is true in the case of other animals as well - like dogs. This behavior can be observed in dogs all the time. Many times you will several "older" dogs (meaning mature) that will mount and push around young, immature dogs, as well as smaller dogs.
More excuse filled apologist claptrap from the yahoooooodi septic tank that is "our" media.
2002-11-06 13:49 | User Profile
The lesbo who belongs to that homosexual group did make a valid point; that the "radical right" think that homosexuality is a "choice" rather than something biological and it can be "changed". The blightwing makes the assumption that children are "encouraged" to pick up homosexuality through the Media, Hollywood, etc. As far as I'm concerned, this has only been a phenomenon for the past 10-15 years or so. I don't believe for a second that one "chooses" to be homosexual; it is something that is purely biological and cannot be "corrected", no matter how many electro-shock therapy sessions or countless gazes at a naked chick in a girlie magazine one must endure.
2002-11-06 18:51 | User Profile
Feeding, re-enforcing, and acting on homosexual feelings is a choice.
Yeah, I'm sure there are homo teens who torture themselves over their homosexual feelings. I think their first mistake is obsessing and then I bet they take breaks from fighting it to endulging and binging. But, a dog can be taught to salivate to a bell. I know numerous celebate people, just because they don't have a mate. They aren't just refusing to act on heterosexual impulses, their impulses have grown weak because of not being entertained.
What makes a homosexual's behaivior so much less a choice than these? There are all sorts of feelings that people are expected to resist, not act on, and even change. Why should homosexuality be any different? Is your favorite food your favorite by choice or because you were born that way?
If homosexuality is biological then why is there such a strong tendancy for homosexuals to be bisexual, to be leftists, to be child molesters, liars, etc? The NAZI party wasn't built by homosexuals by coincidence.
The cruel Roman caesars didn't embrace homosexuality because they were born that way, but simply because they became so perverted and hedonistic.
Bottom line, the genetic link has been refuted. Studies on twins born of the same womb and of the same, but raised apart, show that if one twin is a homosexual, the other twin still most likely is NOT a homosexual. The whole case for a genetic link is totally bankrupt. Accept it. That's why we're stuck with these blatant con jobs such as the story just published by CNN in a laughable attempt to argue that there is a genetic link.
What causes homosexuality? I'm sure many things go into it. Hedonism. Hatred for traditional values. Hatred of God. Psychological damage from childhood sexual molestation. Psychosis. But, not genes nor conditions in the womb. The media hasn't been a big player in making homosexuals, but I'm sure thousands of teens are exploring homosexuality now because of the media's big push in the last decade.
BTW, Robbie, what of former homosexuals. Do you think they're all liars?
2002-11-06 19:57 | User Profile
**What makes a homosexual's behaivior so much less a choice than these? **
I don't believe Robbie was referring to behavior but rather to the "orientation".
2002-11-06 20:38 | User Profile
How do the Carr brothers fit in with this? :D
2002-11-07 11:59 | User Profile
Originally posted by Gott@Nov 6 2002, 14:38 How do the Carr brothers fit in with this? :D
They may be partaking in homosexual acts (willingly or not) while waiting to be hanged.
... Makes you wonder if the gay prison rapists were 'born that way', doesn't it. :P
2002-11-07 12:58 | User Profile
Originally posted by Drakmal@Nov 7 2002, 06:59 ... Makes you wonder if the gay prison rapists were 'born that way', doesn't it. :P
Indeed, given the extremely high incidence of prison sex we must conclude that either homosexuality is a choice, or homosexuals are the bulk of murderers, robbers, and rapists (which fits in nicely with feminism's assertion that rape is about power, not sex). There is certainly plenty of sex that is rape in prison. But much of it is consensual. And even for the rape it is still proof that one voluntarily engages in homosexual acts.
2002-11-07 14:11 | User Profile
Pretty funny Drakmal.
Do they still hang people in that state? How wonderful if they do. You really think they will ever be executed? Their Jew lawyers won't play the system for the next 40 years and either get them off (with reparations) or turn them into martyrs...cruelly framed by the devil whites?
The higher the incident of homosexuality in jail, the better - they are mostly ...(I was gonna use the N word...but am afraid of taking flak for being so irredeemably crude) black - so it helps keep the population down.
If only the prisons could be magically transported to Sierre Leone...
And by the way, I really think a lot of Alex Linderââ¬â¢s cartoons over at VNN are genuinely funny ââ¬â and dead on. He has a series with three figures in a line, a Jew a Gentile and a Black . There are message windows coming from each mouth with typical stuff coming from each. Destroy the gentiles from the Jew, Do Good Deeds from the Gentile and nada from the slack faced black.
The Jews have been using mockery for thousands of years as a very effective weapon against us. There is noting more emasculating then being laughed. It is high time to turn it back on them.
2002-11-08 08:27 | User Profile
Gott,
Only three states still have the option to execute by hanging, and Kansas is not one of them. Unfortunate; I always thought there was some poetic justice in hanging that's missing from the newer, 'friendlier' execution methods.
I'd be very surprised if the Carr brothers got off scot-free, but it seems that most death sentences are commuted to life imprisonment these days. In any case, I seriously doubt they'll become martyrs--jews make monsters into martyrs almost solely through the media, and the media seems to be trying very hard not to even mention that this case--or anything like it--exists.
Humor (or mockery) are indeed a powerful weapon, and I enjoy most of the cartoons displayed at VNN and WCOTC's website. However, for it to be an effective weapon, far more people will have to get the joke, and the concept of jews as the enemies of western (dare I say white) civilization simply isn't in the public consciousness anymore. More must be done at the 'pre-racist' level (so to speak) to draw attention to our natural enmity...
(BTW, Be ye not afraid To call a spade a spade Unless there is one in the room.)
Drakmal